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Brokeback Mountain: Our Community's Common Bond => Brokeback Mountain Open Forum => Topic started by: Front-Ranger on November 04, 2012, 10:18:35 am
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"All we got now... is Brokeback Mountain" -- An outcry upon realization of the futility of regaining or keeping anything beautful, love, youth, genuinous, a connection between two people. Also expressed beautifully by Proust in Remembrance of Times Passed and by Adele in Rolling in the Deep.
An interesting but short discussion of this phrase is located here on the forum: http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,18595.msg355563.html#msg355563 (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,18595.msg355563.html#msg355563)
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a -- preposition. To, as in "You goin a do this next summer?" Jack asked Ennis. Used more in the story rather than the film.
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allright -- noun. "s-allright" Jack murmured to Ennis in the tent. Some people heard three "s'allright"s, and some heard one or more "sorry"s. As with many things that Jack said, what he said and what he meant were two different things. And sometimes he said the opposite of what he meant. So "S'allright" and "sorry" meant the same thing, coming from Jack.
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beat -- noun. "A beat." Pause. Appears often in the script for Brokeback Mountain, written by Larry McMurtry and Diana Ossana. Especially in Ennis's parts.
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aint-colloquialism for "is not". Used in the phrase "aint no reins on this one" which Ennis said to Jack, after they had been talking about their new relationship, and Jack asked "what are we gonna do now". Ennis bit his lip and motioned his head and said "aint no reins on this one. Meaning, who knows how long or how far this is gonna go....
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Alma=proper noun. Name of Ennis's wife....we saw them start out happy, but then Alma saw Ennis and Jack smooching when they reunited after 4 F'kn years, and after that she got depressed and unhappy whenever Ennis went "fishin" with Jack (Nasty)...their marriage ended in divorce.
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Hope I'm doing this right....let me know if I'm not.....
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Hope I'm doing this right....let me know if I'm not.....
It's awesome, Sue!
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It's awesome, Sue!
Oh dear, now I'm off like a runaway train......aint no reins on this one..... ::)
Annie-proper noun-Annie Proulx, the author of the short story, about a love that could never die and proved to us all that love is a force of nature.
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Angproper noun- Ang Lee, the master director of the movie Brokeback Mountain, who brought to the screen the beautiful story of two young cowboys who fell in love on a mountain. With fantastic actors, beautiful scenery and emotions that you could reach out and touch, Ang Lee gave it all, a movie that we can never forget.
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Aguirre-Proper noun.Joe Aguirre, the nasty bloke who hired Ennis and Jack to "watch the sheep, not stem the rose". He was also a peeping tom, watching through his binoculars, Ennis and Jack rolling around on the ground together. He made the boys stay in different camps at night, which Jack said "Aguirre aint got no right" to do.
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You're on a roll, Sue and Lee! Great idea for a thread. 8)
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You're on a roll, Sue and Lee! Great idea for a thread. 8)
Dont encourage me, I'll never stop..... :laugh:
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Brokies--proper noun. Self-described fans of either the movie Brokeback Mountain or the eponymous story by Annie Proulx, or both. Sometimes used in a perjorative sense but other times said proudly, such as "We Brokies must stick together. Brokeback Mountain got us good!!" :D
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Brokeback Mountain-proper noun..The place where 2 young men, herded sheep and fell in love..."Brokeback got us good" said Jack, as they cuddled after their reunion...."Is this all we got, Brokeback Mountain", said Jack in frustration, when he could get no committment from Ennis...Brokeback Mountain, the title of the film that brought to the screen, Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhall playing the parts of Ennis and Jack, 2 young men who were herding sheep, and fell in love....
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Bucket -- noun. Ennis encountered a bucket throughout the movie. While setting up camp, Jack brought water in canvas buckets. Ennis kicked a bucket at least twice, first when he was heading into the tent when he stayed in camp to sleep off the whiskey that he and Jack drank, and later in frustration, he kicked a bucket full of ashes, when his wife disobeyed him and scurried off to work at the grocery. Later, Ennis's bucket started to float away as he was arguing with Jack (see below). He also chided some bikers at the Independence Day fireworks and kicked them in their "slopbucket" mouths.
(http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j341/LeeRecca/BetterMost/Banner%20Images/enniskickbucket3.jpg)
We all know that a bucket stands for a life; it is a vessel that is filled or emptied by life experiences. In this movie, it also stands for potential and opportunities taken or lost. The bucket also stands for Jack since he is a person who accepts all of Ennis's failings. The bucket finds its metaphorical corrollary in the coffeepot, which stands for Ennis, who spent all of his life "travelling around the coffeepot, looking for the handle." The bucket and coffeepot appear in the story too, most notably when Linda Higgins, proprietor of the gift shop where Ennis buys a postcard of Brokeback Mountain, throws a slopping wet used coffee filter in the trash can, a mundane act that is as filled with meaning as the slop of the water buckets on the mountain.
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Beans -- noun. Ennis liked BetterMost beans, while Jack preferred elk. Ironically, Jack wasn't very good at shooting elk, but boasted of being "good with a can opener." Neither man knew himself very well it seems. Beans are an old Asian symbol of virility. The bean may also have a similar significance in Western culture as illustrated by the fable "Jack in the Beanstalk" where a young man brought uncontrollable growth and ultimate destruction to himself by planting a few magic beans.
(http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j341/LeeRecca/BetterMost/Banner%20Images/jackpourswhiskey.jpg)
Here (http://entertainmentguide.local.com/symbolism-book-jack-beanstalk-children-5317.html) is a discussion of the symbology of "Jack and the Beanstalk", an English fairy tale. I don't really agree with some of it, for instance, I think the beanstalk is not a symbol of Jack's social climbing but rather of his ambition, his adolescent sexual desires kicking in, or just any situation that gets out of control. But there's one part that seems very Brokeish to me:
The name Jack is commonly used in fairy tales as a symbol for a clever but unreliable character who starts off poor and stupid with an unpromising future, but ends up rich and respected by using his wits
:P ;)
Now, go to The Straight Dope (http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1204/does-the-pythagorean-maxim-tell-us-to-avoid-eating-beans) for a hilarious discussion on Melville's quoting of the "Pythagorian Maxim" against eating beans. Maybe I should also post about this in "Jack and the Wind"!
beans, coffee -- noun. A subset of beans, coffee played a role in both the story and the subsequent movie. The site dreamforth (http://www.dreamforth.com/dream/coffee.html) suggests that drinking coffee indicates the need for thought or taking a more realistic look at a situation (aka "wake up and smell the coffee"). A coffeepot indicates romantic interest. Note the placement of the coffeepot over Ennis' torso as he sleeps on the ground just before Jack calls him to come into the tent. Coffee is bitter, and Alma sat in between a coffee cup and a sugar holder, unable to choose between the bitter and the sweet, as she cried while Ennis went off to be with Jack in the mountains.
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Boot in fire-------Ouch!!
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Boot in fire-------Ouch!!
hehe, yes, Jack definitely had the willingness to step in "where angels fear to tread" and who knows? He just may have been able to work miracles and walk on water fire, as Aguirre thought him able to do!
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Aguirre thought Jack able to walk on fire?
How you figure that?
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Well, Aguirre was upset with Jack the previous year for "letting" 42 sheep get struck by lightning "as if I could control the weather" as Jack said. And the next year he hinted that Jack might be able to cure pneumonia if he were allowed to descend from the mountain and visit his Uncle Harold. So, Aguirre did think Jack could work miracles. If he thought Ennis and Jack could spend the whole summer together without their thoughts turning to ardor, I'd say he was right! (And that brings up another Brokeism when Ennis said he thought his "daddy was right" about all rodeo riders being fuck-ups.)
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brakes -- noun. Lureen asked Jack if she should "put the brakes on" when she was seducing him in the back of her daddy's Thunderbird. Jack replied, "Fast or slow, I just like the direction you're goin'." Its corollary in Jack and Ennis' relationship was reins, which are the brakes (mostly) for horseriding (see Katie's comment below). Interestingly, brake can also be spelled break, which calls up the notion of Brokeback Mountain. By applying the brakes, or lack of, to their relationship, Lureen and Alma were breaking the bond between Jack and Ennis, or perhaps it was just society that dealt the blow.
aint-colloquialism for "is not". Used in the phrase "aint no reins on this one" which Ennis said to Jack, after they had been talking about their new relationship, and Jack asked "what are we gonna do now". Ennis bit his lip and motioned his head and said "aint no reins on this one. Meaning, who knows how long or how far this is gonna go....
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For those of us who love beans:
Beans -- noun. Ennis liked BetterMost beans, while Jack preferred elk. Ironically, Jack wasn't very good at shooting elk, but boasted of being "good with a can opener." Neither man knew himself very well it seems. Beans are an old Asian symbol of virility. The bean may also have a similar significance in Western culture as illustrated by the fable "Jack in the Beanstalk" where a young man brought uncontrollable growth and ultimate destruction to himself by planting a few magic beans.
(http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j341/LeeRecca/BetterMost/Banner%20Images/jackpourswhiskey.jpg)
Here (http://entertainmentguide.local.com/symbolism-book-jack-beanstalk-children-5317.html) is a discussion of the symbology of "Jack and the Beanstalk", an English fairy tale. I don't really agree with some of it, for instance, I think the beanstalk is not a symbol of Jack's social climbing but rather of his ambition, his adolescent sexual desires kicking in, or just any situation that gets out of control. But there's one part that seems very Brokeish to me:
:P ;)
Now, go to The Straight Dope (http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1204/does-the-pythagorean-maxim-tell-us-to-avoid-eating-beans) for a hilarious discussion on Melville's quoting of the "Pythagorian Maxim" against eating beans. Maybe I should also post about this in "Jack and the Wind"!
beans, coffee -- noun. A subset of beans, coffee played a role in both the story and the subsequent movie. The site dreamforth (http://www.dreamforth.com/dream/coffee.html) suggests that drinking coffee indicates the need for thought or taking a more realistic look at a situation (aka "wake up and smell the coffee"). A coffeepot indicates romantic interest. Note the placement of the coffeepot over Ennis' torso as he sleeps on the ground just before Jack calls him to come into the tent. Coffee is bitter, and Alma sat in between a coffee cup and a sugar holder, unable to choose between the bitter and the sweet, as she cried while Ennis went off to be with Jack in the mountains.