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Title: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MadLori on October 16, 2006, 09:01:29 pm
I'm venturing into the uncharted territory (for me, anyway) of AU!AU.

It's very different from HI and TCJ.  I hope you enjoy it.

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/62284.html
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on October 17, 2006, 07:32:25 am
I LOVED it, Lori. I'm totally hooked. Absolutely wonderful first chapter; exciting and very convincing.

I'd love to find out how "D" got into this line of business and how he hooked up with Josey.

This was soo Ennis to me:

So he went, had two beers, stayed quiet, watched the people, and left again. If he stayed any longer, the eyes on him became too much. Always the eyes, looking at him sidelong, like they knew. What could they know about some stranger having a beer at the bar? They didn’t know shit. But the eyes were always him, and whether they knew anything or not, the idea that they might always drove him out.

I adored the Jack fuckin Twist line   :)

I can hardly wait for their first meeting. Will you be updating again soon?

Thanks Lori. I really loved it.

 :)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on October 17, 2006, 07:50:33 am
Forgot to say that I also LOVE the title! How did you come up with it?

 :)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: louisev on October 17, 2006, 07:59:46 am
it is from the poem "Snake" by Emily Dickinson.  It was also quoted in the title of a mystery story by Mary Willis Walker.

A narrow fellow in the grass
Occasionally rides;
You may have met him, -did you not?
His notice sudden is.

The grass divides as with a comb,
A spotted shaft is seen;
And then it closes at your feet
And opens further on.

He likes a boggy acre,
A floor too cool for corn.
Yet when a child, and barefoot,
I more than once, at morn,

Have passed, I thought, a whip-lash
Unbraiding in the sun, -
When, stooping to secure it,
It wrinkled, and was gone.

Several of nature's people
I know, and they know me;
I feel for them a transport
Of cordiality;

But never met this fellow
Attended or alone
Without a tighter breathing
And zero at the bone.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on October 17, 2006, 08:07:51 am
Thank you Louise! How wonderful that you knew this!

 :)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: louisev on October 17, 2006, 08:11:36 am
only because I read someone else discussing it.  I'm not big on Emily Dickinson and didn't know this poem.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MadLori on October 23, 2006, 11:45:21 am
Chapter 2:  http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/63268.html
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: one_of_one on October 23, 2006, 01:37:07 pm
Hey is that you Lori? *points to avvie*


Oh, chapter two was a delight!  i loved Jack's thoughts, and the way he ran off at the mouth.  And just at the beginning when he arrived home to find Ennis sitting waiting for him....oh and so much more!!!

I am so intrigued as to how this is going to pan out.  Lordy!  Ennis has no idea what he's let himself in for, and I'm sure he's going to have moments of wishing he HAD taken Jack out!  LOL
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on October 23, 2006, 06:12:08 pm
I agree Helen. This chapter was wonderful! Exciting and so much fun to read too. I loved that image of "D" sitting there in his jeans, white t-shirt and sunglasses. Sexy  ;D
Yeah, I guess Jack's blabbering really saved him, I loved Ennis's thoughts on that - that Jack wasn't some kind of pussy, that it had to take guts to stand up to the brothers (is that what he called them? I forget) That was great.

I wonder if they'll be taking some kind of long road trip now? That would be cool, stuck together in the car like that, Jack driving "D" stark raving mad! Heeeee!  ;D

I totally loved the "D" part. That was brilliant  :)

Can't wait for the next chaper!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: one_of_one on October 23, 2006, 06:13:22 pm
Maybe their car will break down and they'll have to steal a motorbike........  *YUM*
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on October 23, 2006, 06:18:26 pm
Maybe their car will break down and they'll have to steal a motorbike........  *YUM*

Oh yeah, even better. I can just imagine them cruising down those long, lonely, hot desert highways.....
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: merrobot on October 24, 2006, 03:52:27 pm
I really am enjoying this new story, Lori, and I think it's a testament to your talent as a writer that you can write such heartwarming stories as Human Interest and Two Crows Joy alongside such a dark, brooding tale like this one.  Like many of the other readers here, I am on tenterhooks to find out how D fell into this way of life and now that he's finally met Jack, how the relationship between them as fugitives will develop. 

Thanks for a fantastic new story  :)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MadLori on October 24, 2006, 04:16:54 pm
I really am enjoying this new story, Lori, and I think it's a testament to your talent as a writer that you can write such heartwarming stories as Human Interest and Two Crows Joy alongside such a dark, brooding tale like this one.  Like many of the other readers here, I am on tenterhooks to find out how D fell into this way of life and now that he's finally met Jack, how the relationship between them as fugitives will develop. 

Thanks for a fantastic new story  :)

Thanks, merro!  there is actually a big-ass clue about what might have pushed Ennis into his life as a contract killer...it's in the part where he's talking about the speedboats, and how Jack got bowled over by one and at one time he did, too.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: littleguitar on October 24, 2006, 07:44:33 pm
Thanks, merro!  there is actually a big-ass clue about what might have pushed Ennis into his life as a contract killer...it's in the part where he's talking about the speedboats, and how Jack got bowled over by one and at one time he did, too.

Ooh yeah, that part was intriguing to say the least... one of his brothers in arms? D was in the military I'm guessing from that and his "high and tight" hair cut... the meth addict comment was interesting as well. Can't wait to read more!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Kazza on October 25, 2006, 03:59:25 am
Maybe their car will break down and they'll have to steal a motorbike........  *YUM*

You really do have a thing for those hot motorbike getaways  ;)

Karen
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on October 25, 2006, 11:41:30 pm
only because I read someone else discussing it.  I'm not big on Emily Dickinson and didn't know this poem.
i do like emily dickensen, a lot but im not familiar with this particular poem...very interesting lori...i am very interested in your new story as i have been all the rest..  thanks for the job you do..a loyal reader                                                                janice
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MadLori on October 30, 2006, 02:04:33 am
Chapter 3

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/64211.html
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: one_of_one on October 30, 2006, 10:13:55 am
Oh I absolutely love this story.

I love Jack's humour and the way he is irritating "D", but at the same time is getting under D's skin.  In some ways Jack is such an innocent but in others he is quite clever, surprising D. 

*SPOILERY BITS*

Couldn't help but smile when D is telling himself he just wants Jack to shut up and stop asking him questions, but at the same time really wants to open up and talk to Jack.  He's so used to not talking to people, and for people to not even bother wanting to make the effort to converse with him.  He's certainly met his match with Gobby!Jack.  LOL 

And the part in the motel room when D really wants to tell Jack his name, and wants Jack to keep talking so that D can see his "big blue eyes".

I liked the bit where Jack tricks D into revealing he was in the military...and D's subsequent thoughts as to whether it was jack who was clever or him that was slipping....bit of both maybe?

:) H
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on November 03, 2006, 12:08:21 pm
And the part in the motel room when D really wants to tell Jack his name, and wants Jack to keep talking so that D can see his "big blue eyes".

Oh yes, that was such a nice end to the chapter... I liked how in chapter 2 Jack accidentally guessed D's real name, that was so cute...
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MadLori on November 06, 2006, 01:28:48 pm
New chapter!

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/65217.html
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on November 06, 2006, 05:29:44 pm
Wow, I am really being pulled into this story, Lori, this was another wonderful chapter....

Quite a workload you've got there with also writing TCJ!  ;)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: twistedude on November 12, 2006, 10:41:03 pm
Ample make this bed.
Make this bed with awe;
In it wait till judgment break
Excellent and fair.

Be its mattress straight,
Be its pillow round;
Let no sunrise' yellow noise
Interrupt this ground

    -Emily Dickenson (anyone remermber :"Sophie's Choice?".
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: twistedude on November 13, 2006, 12:40:31 am
I'm witchez...soooch versatility!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MadLori on November 13, 2006, 04:47:39 pm
Ample make this bed.
Make this bed with awe;
In it wait till judgment break
Excellent and fair.

Be its mattress straight,
Be its pillow round;
Let no sunrise' yellow noise
Interrupt this ground

    -Emily Dickenson (anyone remermber :"Sophie's Choice?".

Thanks for the poem!  I think "Till Judgment Break" would make an excelelnt title for a sequel, don't you?
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: twistedude on November 13, 2006, 05:05:32 pm
Yeah...
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: brokebackjack on November 13, 2006, 05:44:11 pm
Lori, I just found this fanfic yesterday. It's fantastic!!! Thanks for sharing it with us!
Jack
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MadLori on November 14, 2006, 12:43:20 am
It's Monday!

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/66527.html
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: twistedude on November 14, 2006, 02:11:56 am
So it is...and somewhat the worse for wear physically, D and Jack are  on the move some more.

Unless you're feuding, Leslie is a nurse, could help with medical stuff--which I didn't even notice was amiss.

Why does my comment say it's 6 tomorrow morning, when it's 10 tonight my time (California)?

Crisp ands clean and keep 'em coming!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MaineWriter on November 14, 2006, 08:56:41 am
Of course we're not feuding, Julie...Lori and I get along just fine.

Great chapter...I am really getting into this story. Looking forward to the next update.

And the medical stuff all sounded fine, except he wouldn't inject Bacitracin in and around the wound. Bacitracin doesn't come in an injectable form. More likely Jack would've given D a big shot of penicillin in his butt...which would have given Jack an excuse to look at D's butt! LOL

Leslie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: one_of_one on November 14, 2006, 08:59:37 am
More likely Jack would've given D a big shot of penicillin in his butt...which would have given Jack an excuse to look at D's butt! LOL

I think Lori needs to correct that immediately!  ;D  haha....what a scene that would have been!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: louisev on November 14, 2006, 01:36:23 pm
Jack being so doctory!  I liked that a lot!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on November 14, 2006, 01:43:03 pm
Jack being so doctory!  I liked that a lot!

Oh me too, Louise! I loved it! It was just great the way he took charge like that. Thought it was sexy as hell! I hope they'll be able to have a few days of peace once they get to Tahoe.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: louisev on November 20, 2006, 02:54:47 pm
 

Chapter 6 is up:

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/66656.html


SPOILER:






Nothing like a good case of sepsis to throw an unlikely pair together!  I am inevitably reminded of the scene in "The Fugitive" where Dr. Kimble sneaks into the hospital to find the One Armed Man, reads an X-ray and changes the orders on an emergency patient before getting found out and chased from the hospital.  Dr. Jack Twist - The Fugitive!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MadLori on November 20, 2006, 03:10:09 pm


Quote
Nothing like a good case of sepsis to throw an unlikely pair together!  I am inevitably reminded of the scene in "The Fugitive" where Dr. Kimble sneaks into the hospital to find the One Armed Man, reads an X-ray and changes the orders on an emergency patient before getting found out and chased from the hospital.  Dr. Jack Twist - The Fugitive!

I was inspired a bit by that movie, although not that scene specifically...more the earlier scene, right after the crash,w hen he sneaks into a hospital, steals an old guy's food and clothes, shaves and treats his own wound.

Although Jack won't need to steal anyone's clothes or food.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on November 21, 2006, 04:15:43 am


Chapter 6 is up:

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/66656.html


SPOILER:






Nothing like a good case of sepsis to throw an unlikely pair together!  I am inevitably reminded of the scene in "The Fugitive" where Dr. Kimble sneaks into the hospital to find the One Armed Man, reads an X-ray and changes the orders on an emergency patient before getting found out and chased from the hospital.  Dr. Jack Twist - The Fugitive!
  i am liking this tale more with each chapter...the scary stuff is getting thick, and hard to shake.  i am however leery of jack just waltzing into a hospital and trying not to get caught, whilst snatching some illegal drug supplies....what about feed and grain store, they always have that stuff on hand for animals, and if you get them there its easy. no jail involved..
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MaineWriter on November 21, 2006, 09:19:44 am
  i am liking this tale more with each chapter...the scary stuff is getting thick, and hard to shake.  i am however leery of jack just waltzing into a hospital and trying not to get caught, whilst snatching some illegal drug supplies....what about feed and grain store, they always have that stuff on hand for animals, and if you get them there its easy. no jail involved..

The drugs in a hospital aren't illegal, but stealing them is. The feed and grain store is an interesting idea, but I don't believe that animals get vaccinated for tetanus, so I am not sure tetanus toxoid would be available. And are prescription medications (such as an antibiotic) sold at feed and grain stores? In my experience, the vet has all medications needed on hand. I had one time where she wrote a prescription and I had it filled at the drug store (this was for my dog).

Leslie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: louisev on November 21, 2006, 09:41:34 am
you can get penicillin for horses, I know, without it being prescribed, but . at a feed store?  No... I never saw it there.

And... while I am thinking about it - since I am allergic to about 12 antibiotics:  shouldn't Jack have asked D if he was allergic to any specific antibiotics before he stuck him full of what he had in his bag?  If he had done that to me it would be the last chapter of the story.  And a LOT of people are allergic to the penicillin/ampicillin type.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on November 21, 2006, 07:35:09 pm
you can get penicillin for horses, I know, without it being prescribed, but . at a feed store?  No... I never saw it there.

And... while I am thinking about it - since I am allergic to about 12 antibiotics:  shouldn't Jack have asked D if he was allergic to any specific antibiotics before he stuck him full of what he had in his bag?  If he had done that to me it would be the last chapter of the story.  And a LOT of people are allergic to the penicillin/ampicillin type.
   i have bought dog medicine there and my daughter has despensed it to the animals...so yes they have it here...but maybe not everywhere.  it wasnt tetanus, but yes on the antibiotics. for sure
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: yb on November 26, 2006, 04:36:59 am
Lori

Just stop by to say that I'm half way through the 6 chapters you have posted so far and I like it a lot.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MaineWriter on November 27, 2006, 10:13:42 pm
Chapter 7 is up:

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/67428.html#cutid1

Leslie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MadLori on December 04, 2006, 01:11:36 pm
Chapter 8:

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/68718.html
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: ranchgal on December 04, 2006, 03:48:52 pm
The drugs in a hospital aren't illegal, but stealing them is. The feed and grain store is an interesting idea, but I don't believe that animals get vaccinated for tetanus, so I am not sure tetanus toxoid would be available. And are prescription medications (such as an antibiotic) sold at feed and grain stores? In my experience, the vet has all medications needed on hand. I had one time where she wrote a prescription and I had it filled at the drug store (this was for my dog).

Leslie

Horses, cattle, and sheep get vaccinated for tetnus, esp. after and injury or a proceedure, like castration or docking tail in the case of sheep, though the vaccine is labled NOT FOR HUMAN USE. Horses are recommended to be annually vaccinated for tetnus usually combined with a sleeping sickness vaccine.  Dogs do to but not usually until there is an injury
Feed and Grain stores and Elevators can carry vaccines, growth implants and some antibotics like penicillin and Liquamyacin,  but not the drugs like tranquilizers-those kind have to be prescribed by a Liscensed vet.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: louisev on December 13, 2006, 12:23:11 pm
Chapter 9 is up!

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/70183.html#cutid1

More doctory Jack goodness!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on December 13, 2006, 03:49:57 pm
Fantastic chapter, interesting developments....
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MaineWriter on December 18, 2006, 10:10:56 am
Chapter 10:


http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/70776.html

Leslie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on December 18, 2006, 02:36:53 pm
I love, love, love this story! I am completely hooked. I love D and it's so interesting how he keeps referring to the vault, he is such an interesting character.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MaineWriter on December 30, 2006, 06:21:33 pm
I am caught up on my fanfic reading and really hooked on this story. When can we expect an update, Lori?

L
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on December 30, 2006, 06:43:05 pm
I read somewhere that she is planning to update on New Year's day! 2 more days! It's a great story isn't it?
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MaineWriter on December 30, 2006, 06:50:48 pm
I read somewhere that she is planning to update on New Year's day! 2 more days! It's a great story isn't it?

It really is. I don't think of it as a BBM story, just a good old fashioned thriller. Can't wait to find out what happens next.

L
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: one_of_one on December 30, 2006, 07:21:58 pm
I read somewhere that she is planning to update on New Year's day! 2 more days! It's a great story isn't it?


Oh that sounds great!  I hope she does!!!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: yb on December 30, 2006, 08:12:14 pm
It really is. I don't think of it as a BBM story, just a good old fashioned thriller. Can't wait to find out what happens next.

L

I love this story, the tension between D & Jack is riveting, and the build up of their relationship is so well-done.  I check her journal everyday for update.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on December 30, 2006, 08:22:28 pm
I love this story, the tension between D & Jack is riveting, and the build up of their relationship is so well-done.  I check her journal everyday for update.

I agree. And all the unexpected developments of the last chapter which I totally didn't see coming! Amazing.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on January 01, 2007, 05:02:01 pm
Update? Update? Update? Update?  :o

Anybody?
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on January 01, 2007, 05:35:02 pm
Update? Update? Update? Update?  :o

Anybody?

Yeah! Where is it??  :'(
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on January 01, 2007, 05:48:05 pm
Yeah! Where is it??  :'(

Ik hoop dat ie vandaag komt maar ik ga er niet op wachten! LOL! Ik ga slapen.....  :-*
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MaineWriter on January 01, 2007, 05:51:50 pm
Ik hoop dat ie vandaag komt maar ik ga er niet op wachten! LOL! Ik ga slapen.....  :-*

I'll take a stab at translating this:

I am going to go shoot hoops until this chapter updates! LOL Or maybe I'll slap her [referring to MadLori]....

L
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on January 01, 2007, 06:05:59 pm
I'll take a stab at translating this:

I am going to go shoot hoops until this chapter updates! LOL Or maybe I'll slap her [referring to MadLori]....

L

LMAO Leslie! Mel and I have been bad girls today, talking Dutch on the threads! Sowwy!  ;D

I'll let Mel translate!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on January 01, 2007, 06:07:19 pm
Ik hoop dat ie vandaag komt maar ik ga er niet op wachten! LOL! Ik ga slapen.....  :-*

Slaap lekker Mel  :-*
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MaineWriter on January 01, 2007, 06:09:23 pm
Slaap lekker Mel  :-*

Now you are going to slap me? LOL

Actually, speak Dutch all you want, just be prepared for some fractured translations since my knowledge of Dutch words ends at "Edam Cheese" and "Schiopol Airport." LOL

L
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on January 01, 2007, 07:05:51 pm
Now you are going to slap me? LOL

Actually, speak Dutch all you want, just be prepared for some fractured translations since my knowledge of Dutch words ends at "Edam Cheese" and "Schiopol Airport." LOL

L

LOL Slap you?? Moi??  ;D Nah ~ I'm a good girl Leslie!  ::)  ;D

It literally means sleep good/nice, we say it when people go to bed and you want to wish them a good nights rest  :) SO ~ this was completely innocent  ;D
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MaineWriter on January 01, 2007, 07:20:29 pm
Okay, Slaap...sleep...lekker...well...


I think it makes sense.

I still think we all need to shoot hoops until Lori updates. Lori, are you listening???


L
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on January 02, 2007, 09:13:11 am
Just read on BBSlash she won't be updating till next week, probably Monday  :(
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on January 02, 2007, 09:27:39 am
You guys are hilarious, no slapping anybody, just sleeping!  :D

Ik slaap
Jij slaapt
Wij slapen
Zij slapen
And a lot more sleeping until the next update...   :-\

Sorry, won't speak Dutch anymore... it's just so tempting sometimes!  ;D



Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MaineWriter on January 02, 2007, 09:41:08 am
Speak Dutch all you want. Maybe I'll learn something!

L
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on January 02, 2007, 09:51:36 am
Think we should be sending her LOTS of positive creative energy because she wrote on her livejournal she hasn't even started writing the chapter yet!  :-\

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on January 02, 2007, 10:10:15 am

Sorry, won't speak Dutch anymore... it's just so tempting sometimes!  ;D





It is!  ;D
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on January 02, 2007, 10:32:19 am
It is!  ;D

Want het is zo leuk en Nederlands is zoveel cooler dan Engels en wij zijn zo cool dat wij allebei spreken....!

See there I go again... sigh.... :-\
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on January 02, 2007, 01:41:56 pm
Speak Dutch all you want. Maybe I'll learn something!

L

Oh goodie Mel!!  ;D

We have Mod permission!!  ;D
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on January 02, 2007, 01:49:21 pm
Want het is zo leuk en Nederlands is zoveel cooler dan Engels en wij zijn zo cool dat wij allebei spreken....!

See there I go again... sigh.... :-\

Weet je Mel,  dat het mij nu ontzettend veel moeite kost om Nederlands te schrijven! Ik schrijf nu al bijna een jaar heel intensief Engels op alle forums en op LJ en dat gaat mij nu heel wat makkelijker af dan Nederlands! Gek he??  :D

Het is wel super cool dat wij het allebei spreken! Maar ik vind Engels wel cooler dan Nederlands!  ;D Ik ben er dan ook mee opgegroeid en heb ook de Engelse nationaliteit. Maar geen van mijn familie woont in Engeland hoor, ze wonen allemaal in de buurt van Den Haag. Jouw Engels is ook geweldig! Hoe komt dat?

Gezellig dit geklets! LOL  :-*
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on January 02, 2007, 03:09:55 pm
Weet je Mel,  dat het mij nu ontzettend veel moeite kost om Nederlands te schrijven! Ik schrijf nu al bijna een jaar heel intensief Engels op alle forums en op LJ en dat gaat mij nu heel wat makkelijker af dan Nederlands! Gek he??  :D

Het is wel super cool dat wij het allebei spreken! Maar ik vind Engels wel cooler dan Nederlands!  ;D Ik ben er dan ook mee opgegroeid en heb ook de Engelse nationaliteit. Maar geen van mijn familie woont in Engeland hoor, ze wonen allemaal in de buurt van Den Haag. Jouw Engels is ook geweldig! Hoe komt dat?

Gezellig dit geklets! LOL  :-*

Heb er ook wel eens moeite mee als ik lang achter elkaar Engels geschreven heb! Ik heb soms problemen met overschakelen, zelfs ook nog steeds op mijn werk waar ik heel veel vertaalwerk doe.

Maar Nederlands is leuk om te kunnen spreken omdat er relatief weinig mensen op aarde zijn die het kunnen spreken!  ;) Ik heb in Los Angeles gewoond en mijn zus woont al 16 jaar in Engeland, dus ik heb veel kunnen oefenen in Amerika en Engeland!  :)

Maar kom je wel eens in Engeland?
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MaineWriter on January 02, 2007, 04:38:55 pm
Ween MaadLoorrij arriivees und reeeds jhis farkiiing nooonseeense, jil theeeknj weeeve alj looost ourr farkiiing meeeends.

L
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on January 02, 2007, 04:46:07 pm
Ween MaadLoorrij arriivees und reeeds jhis farkiiing nooonseeense, jil theeeknj weeeve alj looost ourr farkiiing meeeends.

L

 :o...... :laugh:



Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on January 02, 2007, 04:47:04 pm
Well we're losing our minds waiting for her new chapter, so we might as well do it in a language she doesn't understand!

LOL  :laugh:
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MaineWriter on January 02, 2007, 04:56:39 pm
Well we're losing our minds waiting for her new chapter, so we might as well do it in a language she doesn't understand!

LOL  :laugh:

C'est vrai.

L
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: one_of_one on January 02, 2007, 05:55:31 pm
Tha mi trang!

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on January 02, 2007, 06:19:32 pm
Tha mi trang!



Uhm, what, H??  ;D
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on January 02, 2007, 06:21:06 pm
Ween MaadLoorrij arriivees und reeeds jhis farkiiing nooonseeense, jil theeeknj weeeve alj looost ourr farkiiing meeeends.

L

God, Leslie! You seriously cracked me up with this! LMAO!

 ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MaineWriter on January 02, 2007, 07:01:07 pm
God, Leslie! You seriously cracked me up with this! LMAO!

 ;D  ;D  ;D

This is why I love you, June. You always laugh at my jokes!

Hugs,

L
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: one_of_one on January 02, 2007, 07:15:03 pm
Uhm, what, H??  ;D


We're not restricted to Dutch are we?
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on January 02, 2007, 07:24:40 pm

We're not restricted to Dutch are we?

Hahahaha ~ I guess not! Real cute, H!  ;D
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on January 02, 2007, 07:29:46 pm
This is why I love you, June. You always laugh at my jokes!

Hugs,

L

Aw *loves you back* and just always love your jokes!  ;D
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: louisev on January 05, 2007, 08:59:00 am
I guess we're the poor cousins here, Lori only gave a status last night over at Other Forum.

She is working on the updates but it will be a while longer.  I'll post more info if I learn anything more detailed on her blog.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: yb on January 05, 2007, 10:06:22 am
I wonder why Lori doesn't post here, I'm sure she has a lot of readers on this forum.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MaineWriter on January 05, 2007, 10:08:33 am
I wonder why Lori doesn't post here, I'm sure she has a lot of readers on this forum.

She has posted here but I know she has been busy with the holidays and working two jobs. Maybe if we all get down on our knees and say pretty please, we can entice her back....Lori, are you listening?

L
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MadLori on January 05, 2007, 02:03:21 pm
Hello everyone...I'm sorry I haven't been around, but I barely have time to READ all three forums let alone post to each one, and I'm not used to my threads being this active here on BM! 

I'm a bit short on time AND mental energy these days.  I'm just glad I'm still keeping up with READING everyone else's fics!  I've got some good time carved out this weekend to work on new Zero, so fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MaineWriter on January 05, 2007, 02:09:10 pm
Hey Lori, good to hear from you...

And good to hear you have some Zero writing time this weekend. We are all waiting anxiously on the further adventures of D and Dr. Twist.

Leslie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on January 05, 2007, 02:10:29 pm
Hello everyone...I'm sorry I haven't been around, but I barely have time to READ all three forums let alone post to each one, and I'm not used to my threads being this active here on BM! 

I'm a bit short on time AND mental energy these days.  I'm just glad I'm still keeping up with READING everyone else's fics!  I've got some good time carved out this weekend to work on new Zero, so fingers crossed.

Welcome back Lori! Good luck with writing, we are anxiously awaiting a new chapter!

 :)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: yb on January 05, 2007, 10:22:17 pm
Hi, Lori, thank you for stopping by.  Glad to know that you'll be working on the new chapter this weekend, been anxiously waiting for it.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: louisev on January 08, 2007, 04:23:24 pm
Lori has updated the Human Interest blog to say that Zero will not be updated today (Monday) due to Real Life.

humaninterest.livejournal.com
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on January 11, 2007, 02:12:37 pm
Hello everyone...I'm sorry I haven't been around, but I barely have time to READ all three forums let alone post to each one, and I'm not used to my threads being this active here on BM! 

I'm a bit short on time AND mental energy these days.  I'm just glad I'm still keeping up with READING everyone else's fics!  I've got some good time carved out this weekend to work on new Zero, so fingers crossed.

            well dear lori, we have tried to be the non whining crew over here on bettermost,
occupying ourself with checking for zits and giving our legs a proper shave.
         mmbut we are ready now to start reading...dutch notwithstanding,,,we are now
SCREAMING,,,OUT LOUD,,,,get to damn writing on those poor boys,,,/you are going to
give the bad guys more time to find them....                           janice
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on January 11, 2007, 03:16:26 pm
            well dear lori, we have tried to be the non whining crew over here on bettermost,
occupying ourself with checking for zits and giving our legs a proper shave.
         mmbut we are ready now to start reading...dutch notwithstanding,,,we are now
SCREAMING,,,OUT LOUD,,,,get to damn writing on those poor boys,,,/you are going to
give the bad guys more time to find them....                           janice

LOL... Yeah, what she said...
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on January 12, 2007, 11:43:43 am
We should do a raindance or something to make Lori update sooner........

what the hell am I talking about?

 :-X
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: one_of_one on January 12, 2007, 12:05:59 pm
We should do a raindance or something to make Lori update sooner........

what the hell am I talking about?

 :-X

Seems like a good idea to me! 

I can't bear the waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on January 12, 2007, 12:26:23 pm
Seems like a good idea to me! 

I can't bear the waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's really becoming too much, I agree. I think we should expect that the update will be there on Monday, if it comes earlier than that, it will be a surprise...

Same with Nobody's angel, when was that one's last update? Saturday?
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on January 12, 2007, 06:03:04 pm
It's really becoming too much, I agree. I think we should expect that the update will be there on Monday, if it comes earlier than that, it will be a surprise...

Same with Nobody's angel, when was that one's last update? Saturday?

NA will update over the weekend, Mel. So that will be very late Saturday or Sunday evening for us, if she sticks to her usual posting time.

 :) Are you feeling better today? I hope so  :)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on January 13, 2007, 04:58:59 am
NA will update over the weekend, Mel. So that will be very late Saturday or Sunday evening for us, if she sticks to her usual posting time.

 :) Are you feeling better today? I hope so  :)

Yes I was feeling slightly better already yesterday, thank you!!!  :-*
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on January 15, 2007, 12:35:14 pm
Is it update-day?

(*excited smiley*)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on January 15, 2007, 12:37:37 pm
Is it update-day?

(*excited smiley*)

I sure hope so, Mel!!  :D
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on January 16, 2007, 06:16:16 am
No update yet!!!!  :'( :'( :'( :'(

Lori, do you have any idea what you're doing to us??????
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on January 16, 2007, 06:26:18 am
No update yet!!!!  :'( :'( :'( :'(

Lori, do you have any idea what you're doing to us??????

Heard through the grapevine that Lori might update her time tonight. But nothing is definite  :(
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on January 16, 2007, 06:30:30 am
Heard through the grapevine that Lori might update her time tonight. But nothing is definite  :(

WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO JUNE? I'M DYING HERE!!!

(oooohhhh drama queen strikes again!)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on January 16, 2007, 06:50:20 am
WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO JUNE? I'M DYING HERE!!!

(oooohhhh drama queen strikes again!)

LOL Mel!! Pleeeeease don't forget to keep breathing!  ;D

You know what? I've decided to just put it out of my mind and just wait and see when she updates cause I don't feel like stressing out about it anymore  :D
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on January 16, 2007, 07:05:27 am
LOL Mel!! Pleeeeease don't forget to keep breathing!  ;D

You know what? I've decided to just put it out of my mind and just wait and see when she updates cause I don't feel like stressing out about it anymore  :D

I know what you mean..... I NEED CHOCOLATE!!!!!!!

Sorry, I will just focus on writing chapter 8 of my story...
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on January 16, 2007, 07:54:47 am
I know what you mean..... I NEED CHOCOLATE!!!!!!!

Sorry, I will just focus on writing chapter 8 of my story...

Ohh Mel, I NEED that too *sigh*

YEAH!! GOOD IDEA!! Other people should just update their wonderful stories and put me (and you) out of our misery!!  ;D

 :-*
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on January 16, 2007, 09:15:50 am
Ohh Mel, I NEED that too *sigh*

YEAH!! GOOD IDEA!! Other people should just update their wonderful stories and put me (and you) out of our misery!!  ;D

 :-*

DEATH BY CHOCOLATE.... Well, peanut M&Ms will have to do...
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MadLori on January 17, 2007, 03:01:12 am
New chapter!

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/73029.html
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on January 17, 2007, 06:53:11 am
**SPOILERS**


LOVED everything about this last chapter but I especially loved these last lines:

He kicked his jeans off and lay there in just his t-shirt, D’s seed damp within him, pulse slowing and sleep racing to overtake him, cautiously extending one hand to rest on D’s chest before it caught them both.  

SO lovely  :)

D and Dr. Jack are just so wonderful to me  *sigh*
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MadLori on January 23, 2007, 11:50:50 pm
New chapter:

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/74402.html
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: ranchgal on January 24, 2007, 12:20:24 am
Dog-Gone it Lori, I swore I was only going to peek in once in awhile, and NOT get involved with this one--and now after the last two great chapters--I am on the edge of my seat and can hardly wait to find out where you are going with this--but I have to say I hate that cliffhanger on the last one---Please don't let him be hurt okay!! Dog-gone it, you are making me break my swearing to myself---SIGH ;) ;D

Well---NOW we really are waiting for the next update!! OMG  AAUUUGGGHH now we have to wade through it until they can be together again. AAUUGHH

(thanks for sharing the read-but you didn't really read that from me--it is someone else using my keyboard right now!! LOL :laugh: :laugh:)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: karen1129 on January 25, 2007, 02:34:49 pm
Lori, you are a rascal for leaving us hanging like this !!!!  Update soon dear.

Karen
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on January 25, 2007, 02:44:03 pm
Lori, you are a rascal for leaving us hanging like this !!!!  Update soon dear.

Karen

Oh I agree, I can't even comment on this chapter, it's that evil...
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MadLori on February 02, 2007, 03:06:00 pm
Wanted to let everyone know that I am participating in an Author Live Chat on the Dave Cullen forum this evening.

Here is the thread where the chat will be located:

http://www.davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=19650.0

You do need to be a DC member to participate, but it's quick and easy to sign up.

Chat times are 9-11 pm EST 2/2 and 11 am -  1 pm EST (for our European friends) on 2/3.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: ranchgal on February 05, 2007, 01:16:52 am
Sorry I missed it--how did it go, was there lots of interesting discussion?? :D
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on February 06, 2007, 11:24:32 am
Lori, if you are reading this....

WE NEED AN UPDATE!
WE NEED AN UPDATE!
WE NEED AN UPDATE!
WE NEED AN UPDATE!
WE NEED AN UPDATE!
WE NEED AN UPDATE!
WE NEED AN UPDATE!
WE NEED AN UPDATE!
WE NEED AN UPDATE!
WE NEED AN UPDATE!
WE NEED AN UPDATE!
WE NEED AN UPDATE!
WE NEED AN UPDATE!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MaineWriter on February 06, 2007, 11:31:45 am
Lori did say in her live chat the other day that the next chapter she would be updating is Two Crows Joy. So we'll just have to wait for Zero...

Leslie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on February 06, 2007, 11:38:35 am
Lori did say in her live chat the other day that the next chapter she would be updating is Two Crows Joy. So we'll just have to wait for Zero...

Leslie

 :'( (*goes off to sulk in the corner)

Although a new chapter of TCJ is not bad either...it's just that Zero has such a mean cliffhanger!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MaineWriter on February 06, 2007, 12:19:30 pm
:'( (*goes off to sulk in the corner)

Although a new chapter of TCJ is not bad either...it's just that Zero has such a mean cliffhanger!

Very true!

L
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on February 07, 2007, 08:47:26 pm
Lori did say in her live chat the other day that the next chapter she would be updating is Two Crows Joy. So we'll just have to wait for Zero...

Leslie

I say hooray to this!!  I'm so looking forward to the update for Two Crows. 
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: ranchgal on February 08, 2007, 12:24:58 am
ME TOO!!!! hehehehehehehe
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: cathyinaz on February 08, 2007, 04:17:47 pm
 ???  Where is my Dr. Jack? Can D save Jack and himself?  Can they then get to the SNIT scene?  :-*

I love all Madlori's stories and hope that one of them will be updated soon, I have been missing them. Either one is fine: TCJ or Zero, both are wonderful
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: cathyinaz on February 21, 2007, 08:16:23 pm
Any news from Lori? We miss you Lori and I hope all is well with you.  8)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on February 22, 2007, 06:48:45 am
Any news from Lori? We miss you Lori and I hope all is well with you.  8)

Oh I can't wait for this chapter, hopefully she will post this today so I can take in on the plane with me and read it there!  8)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on February 27, 2007, 03:48:27 am
Well, for the people who don't know yet.... chapter 13 is up!

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/76924.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/76924.html)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on February 27, 2007, 05:43:54 am
**SPOILERS**

This was just great *happy sigh* I'm SO relieved and happy they are back together again and that D took this first step to be close to Jack again, that he was the one to make the first move  :)

All at once, D felt the tension leave Jack’s shoulders. Jack turned quickly and pressed hard against D, a sob overlaid with a sigh escaping him. D sucked in a breath and shut his eyes, clutching Jack to his chest and holding him fast, Jack’s arms around his shoulders.

“I can’t believe you came for me,” Jack whispered against D’s neck.

“Hadta,” he said.

“Why?”

“Shhh,” D said. “Jus…” He hesitated. “Jus lemme hold ya fer a minute, okay?” he whispered. Maybe if he was quiet enough it wouldn’t really be him saying it. “Don’t ask me no questions. Jus lemme feel yer safe.”

Jack sighed and his arms tightened around D. “D?”

“Hmm?”

“I might want to hold you longer than a minute.”

“Hmm. I s’pose.”     

Lovely  :)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on February 27, 2007, 12:04:37 pm
Well, that was worth the wait! One hell of a chapter and I agree with you June, it was so good to read that D made the first step! I loved that part that you quoted, it was so sweeeeeeeet!

I am really looking forward to Jack finding out Ennis's real name. I really feel like they can't have SNIT until they have really opened up to each other and Jack knows his real name. It wouldn't feel right otherwise...

Also, I have to admit that I have no clue whatsoever about what is going on with D and X and...everything else.... I will have to reread it all once I it is finished...
Title: Zero to bullseye...
Post by: cwby30 on February 27, 2007, 02:01:23 pm
Mornin'.

Great update. Sigh of relief; didn't know I was holding my breath for so long.

One of my favorite passages in this chapter: "He was goddamned bedrock, and everything rolled right off without leaving any trace. But Jack fucking Twist was like a million years of rain, wearing channels and caverns all through him, sinkholes down into the dark depths that he never thought would see the light of day again. Right now he felt about as rock-solid as Swiss cheese." The imagery is beautiful.

Jack has that way with Ennis...reaching through the hard exterior to find the real person underneath. And, glad to have you use Ennis' real name...it shows how much he has changed. And his hesitance at touching Jack, but finally breaking through doubts and fears to reach out for what he really wants... more wonderful writing.

Was wondering how Ennis would rescue Jack...always nice to have the right friends to help! And, speaking of them, you raised a lot of questions about X and Ennis' relationship with X.

Their almost idyllic "Brokeback Mountain" days in Tahoe are over. Now, how do they cope with the emotions and dangers off that mountain and back in the "real" world? Redding probably isn't so safe for them...if the bad guys could find them in Tahoe, why not in Redding in his brother's house? Better high-tail it to some location not connected with either of them.

Looking forward to more chapters. I'll wait patiently and hold my horses... even though the horses sometimes get restless waiting in the same spot for too long. Got to feed and water them on a regular basis, you know.

[Also posted at BrokebackSlash...]
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Bigheart on February 27, 2007, 04:07:46 pm

Also, I have to admit that I have no clue whatsoever about what is going on with D and X and...everything else.... I will have to reread it all once I it is finished...

I have absolutely NO clue what's going on with X and D's other contacts and involvements either, Mel  :-\ I just can't seem to figure it out.....anybody have any thoughts or ideas?
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: ranchgal on February 28, 2007, 07:56:59 pm
Sounds to me like D is either a double agent---he works assasinations for the bad guys and lets the good guys know what is going on, and works for them too when they need him too-OR he is an undercover agent--like he is DEEP undercover and I get the feeling he has his own agenda that doesn't involve any of the "powers"
very complicated developments and right now we all have more questions than answers.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: cathyinaz on March 14, 2007, 11:52:39 pm
There is an update of Zero on LJ now, Chapter 13 I think!  Hot , hot, hot. ;)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: cathyinaz on March 15, 2007, 07:53:54 pm
Actually Chapter 14! Sorry, it's up on LJ. ;)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: cathyinaz on April 10, 2007, 11:38:14 pm
There is a new chapter up at LJ!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MaineWriter on April 11, 2007, 06:24:59 am
Here you go, folks. Chapter 15.

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/78935.html#cutid1

L
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on July 05, 2007, 12:31:38 pm
Chapter 16 is up!

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/80691.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/80691.html)

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on July 05, 2007, 01:34:38 pm



         Lori has written many a beautiful and strong chapter.  But this one may be the most perfect she has ever done.  So compact, and the flow was masterful.
No wasted words or meaningless fills.. Just elegance.             janice
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: cathyinaz on July 16, 2007, 10:51:35 pm
Lori rocks!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on July 31, 2007, 01:06:14 pm
In case anyone missed it, chapter 17!

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/82404.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/82404.html)

And I believe I read in the comments, that there may be a sequel!  Yay!  "D' does something to me that's hard to explain.

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on July 31, 2007, 02:52:36 pm
In case anyone missed it, chapter 17!

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/82404.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/82404.html)

And I believe I read in the comments, that there may be a sequel!  Yay!  "D' does something to me that's hard to explain.

Marie

I loved the last chapter! But it's been hard for me to really focus on the story after the infrequent updates, I seem to have lost the connection with her Jack and Ennis a bit. I'm sure that if I read it from beginning to end once it's finished, I will appreciate it even more, because it's a brilliant story... What I remember most of this story is them touching hands for the first time on the couch, that was one of the most touching and breathtaking 'scenes' in the fandom!

Jack finding out D's real name in this way made me hold my breath, it was such a beautiful moment. They are so in love! *sigh*  :) But I worry that they are gonna be back on the run in the next chapter!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on August 03, 2007, 09:55:58 pm



          Yes well you may be right.  If I have lost track of a story, and kind of feel lost I go back and reread the last couple of chapters.  That usually refreshes my mind where we are...I have more trouble with the ones whre the writer writes multiple fics at the same time.  Sometimes losing track of which has what...guh
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on September 09, 2007, 12:01:28 am
Yeehaw!!!

Update!

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/87314.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/87314.html)

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on September 09, 2007, 01:53:18 pm
Yeehaw!!!

Update!

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/87314.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/87314.html)



Wow and what an update it was! This is still one of my favorite stories, I am so impressed with the depth of the storyline. I still can't figure it all out yet, but I think they are gonna get into trouble very soon.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on September 09, 2007, 01:58:56 pm
I really like the complexity of the storyline in this one too.  :)


Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on September 09, 2007, 03:54:10 pm
SPOILERS




This was an awesome chapter, the story keeps getting better and better.  Yeah, I agree about the depth and complexity.  It looks like everything is coming to a head and we'll be getting some answers soon. 

But it also looks like they're headed for a separation - temporary, I hope - but it's going to be heart-wrenching nonetheless.  It'll be hard to wait for the next chapter.

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: souxi on October 02, 2007, 06:30:00 am
Update.
http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/87879.html
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on October 02, 2007, 02:31:42 pm


         SPOILERS'

       This was an awsomely angsty chapter.  I love this story.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on October 02, 2007, 07:46:55 pm
SPOILERS




It must've been hard to write this chapter, because by the end I was drained just reading it.

“Thanks for my life.”
“Thanks for mine.”

Sob.

“I’ll find you. You hear me?” ........... “I will find you.” .....Could be years.”
“I’ll wait.”

Sob.

“You take care a my Jack.”

SOB!

Sigh.  Yeah, it was awesome angsty - and awesomely hopeful, too.  I'm holding tight to that little checklist of Jack's:  Stupid things like you and me in a house with a dog and a vegetable garden, and Sunday mornings in bed with coffee and the paper.”   But I know that won't happen overnight.  Lots of scary stuff ahead, I'm sure.

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on October 03, 2007, 04:52:17 am
Lori, if you hear/read this, I can't comment on lj, but this was your best chapter ever! Just like Marie, I was drained after reading it, but thank God they made up before having to leave each other...  :'(

Thank you for an amazing story, I am soooo hooked!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on October 04, 2007, 11:02:35 pm
This story is just so, amazingly good!  Tonight I finally had a chance to read this new update and was blown-away as usual.  My favorite thing about it (besides the great tension/relationship, etc. between Jack and D) is that I really can't figure out all the elements of what's going on (at all) yet.  It makes it really suspenseful and intriguing.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MadLori on October 10, 2007, 10:01:58 am
New chapter!

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/88174.html
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on October 10, 2007, 10:04:31 am
Yay!!

Can't wait to get home from work so I can read it!
8)


Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on October 11, 2007, 01:12:50 pm
SPOILERS










This is like sitting on the edge of your seat and watching a movie - a really intelligent, top-notch thriller/love story.  Awesome and amazing.  Both these guys are so damn smart, but, yet, so damn human. 

That wouldn’t do for Jack. He’d have better. Someday.

That killled me.  And I'm scared.  Really scared.  There are bad, bad people after them and I can't help but believe that bad, bad things are going to happen before everything gets worked out...eventually. 

But I'd rather think about D's gift to Jack:

(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z196/mariez65/chocolate-covered-cherries.jpg)


Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on October 11, 2007, 02:22:38 pm
SPOILERS










This is like sitting on the edge of your seat and watching a movie - a really intelligent, top-notch thriller/love story.  Awesome and amazing.  Both these guys are so damn smart, but, yet, so damn human. 

That wouldn’t do for Jack. He’d have better. Someday.

That killled me.  And I'm scared.  Really scared.  There are bad, bad people after them and I can't help but believe that bad, bad things are going to happen before everything gets worked out...eventually. 

But I'd rather think about D's gift to Jack:

(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z196/mariez65/chocolate-covered-cherries.jpg)


Marie

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Didn't you just love the last lines of this chapter?
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on October 11, 2007, 08:16:15 pm
........
Didn't you just love the last lines of this chapter?


SPOILERS








“This ain’t Halloween.”

“What’s that mean?”

“Means I ain’t sharin my candy. Gimme them glasses.”



 :laugh: It's always so out-of-the-blue when D makes a joke - and this one especially - it just makes it even funnier! And it was so welcome, after such intensity!

Marie

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on October 13, 2007, 04:59:38 pm
I just heard through the grapevine that Lori has another update planned for THIS WEEKEND! Yeeeeeeh!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on October 13, 2007, 06:21:26 pm
Cool!  She definitely seems to be on a great roll with this story.

SPOILERS-


I love, love, love that X turned out to be a woman.  And the way they met on the roof was so clever.
:)

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Mikaela on October 13, 2007, 06:43:22 pm
Pops in to say:

I'm also totally in love with this fic. It's soooo good.

Oh, the tension of D and Jack being apart - Jack a hunted man and D hunting the hunters.... I'm sure there are some nail-biting action-packed edge-of-your-seat scenes to come!

*cheers*



Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on October 14, 2007, 01:05:19 am
I just heard through the grapevine that Lori has another update planned for THIS WEEKEND! Yeeeeeeh!

Yes, indeed!  You're right.

Here's chapter 21

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/88440.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/88440.html)


Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on October 14, 2007, 04:04:24 am
Yes, indeed!  You're right.

Here's chapter 21

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/88440.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/88440.html)




Wasn't it nerve-wracking?
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on October 14, 2007, 02:02:41 pm


Definitely!  The suspense is getting really intense with this story! 8)


Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on October 14, 2007, 02:24:22 pm
Yep.  Nerve-wracking, suspenseful and intense.  To the nth degree.

I'M SCARED!!!

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on October 16, 2007, 12:44:41 am
Yeehaw!!

Yet another update.

Here's chapter 22

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/88920.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/88920.html)

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on October 16, 2007, 01:35:11 pm
Yeehaw!!

Yet another update.

Here's chapter 22

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/88920.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/88920.html)



Yeehaw is right!  Thanks, Amanda.  She is really smokin'!

I haven't read Chapter 22 yet - but I just noticed she added some author's notes about it:

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/89182.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/89182.html)

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on October 16, 2007, 09:00:26 pm
It's such a good chapter!  I hope you enjoy it.  :)


Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on October 17, 2007, 03:48:33 pm
It's such a good chapter!  I hope you enjoy it.  :)

SPOILERS



Thanks, Amanda.  I absolutely enjoyed it -  a great chapter.  I'm so proud of Jack.  But now I'm even more afraid. 

I saw that Lori posted some more announcements:

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/ (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/)

Can't wait for more!

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on October 18, 2007, 10:47:30 pm

And with lightning speed... here's chapter 23!

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/89690.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/89690.html)

Yeehaw!
8)

Once again, this update is just unbelievably good!  :D  Yikes!

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on October 19, 2007, 06:39:37 am
And with lightning speed... here's chapter 23!

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/89690.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/89690.html)

Yeehaw!
8)

Once again, this update is just unbelievably good!  :D  Yikes!



Oh I agree! It's just nerve-wracking to the 100th degree. And what was up with the ending of the chapter, hope she will stay on a roll with this story, because I can't wait to find out if Jack will call D Ennis now...

 :D
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on October 19, 2007, 08:10:31 am


      This was a particularly high anxiety chapter..Lots of no dont do thats, and holy craps...Then leaving the open ending duh!!!   I am hoping she posts again soon.. I love it when she gets on these rolls.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on October 19, 2007, 12:58:19 pm

    ..Lots of no dont do thats, and holy craps...

Ditto to what everyone has said - and especially this, Janice.  That's what I was saying as I read - and a lot more.  LOL! 
Sure hope the next chapter comes soon - and that it picks up precisely where this one leaves off!

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Mikaela on October 19, 2007, 06:50:24 pm
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely, totally love Zero, love Jack and D, and am waiting most eagerly for it to continue - and for the sequel.  :) Still I though this last chapter was high on "huh?" moments, events that I couldn't quite make sense of.

So.... perhaps anyone can make sense of them to me? Here they are:


If the "evil lawyer" frequently made use of the "what colour are my eyes" ploy, and everyone knew it, why hadn't the DA and the people prepping Jack warned him of that beforehand?
 

Now that Jack's testimony is on record, why didn't the hitman just kill Jack in the bar, or outside the bar? Why the intricate plot to abduct him somewhere first - risking the hitman's life up close and personal, and involving hidden helpers, and syringes and whatnot - much that could go wrong? I thought at this stage the whole point for the brothers would be to kill Jack to show other potential witnesses what happens to anyone who don't keep mum. And if so - they'd want the death as public as possible, wouldn't they? Shooting Jack in the bar would be perfect to get that point across. And if Jack could have a note pressed into his hand, he sure could be killed. (Eeep!!  :o )


Did the Dominguez (sp?) brothers *know* about Jack and D? I mean, of course they know D was supposed to kill Jack and didn't do it, but protected him instead. But how did they know or guess that Jack would go all out to put his life on the line for D?  The mysterious "others" who are after D and still wants him to kill Jack, know much more about J&D's relationship, sure enough  - but... I though they were an entirely separate entity from the Brothers.  Or....are the two "bad guy groups" communicating?
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on October 19, 2007, 07:41:00 pm


   There are a few plot holes..like why did Churchill take him to the f***ing bar at all..Why did Jack decide to
go out back,...Why didnt D just stay in the room with him as before..?  But once that was set into motion the
rest of it makes sense...They want D, not Jack..Jack is merely a means to the end.  If they kill Jack D will still
be out of pocket...so they needed to capture jack in order for their plan to complete...
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on October 19, 2007, 10:06:52 pm
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If the "evil lawyer" frequently made use of the "what colour are my eyes" ploy, and everyone knew it, why hadn't the DA and the people prepping Jack warned him of that beforehand?

Mikaela, that is an excellent point - and Jack's lack of preparation regarding his cross-examination  is something that I raised in my comments on Lori's lj.  It makes me suspicious of Brad, the prosecutor.  As a prosecutor myself (not a big-shot fed, just a lowly county assistant prosecutor), I know that the direct testimony of your witness is the easier part - you can control that.  You know exactly what you're going to ask and your prep your own witness accordingly.  It's the cross that holds all the minefields, and a good prosecutor will always role play with his witness,  actually go through a mock cross-examination to try to anticipate where the defense will trip him up and prepare him for that.  When we heard Jack thinking that he didn't know what to expect from the defense lawyer, I thought "uh oh."  You can't know exactly, of course, but he should have had at least some idea of what to expect.  And then when Brad mentioned at the bar that the defense guy used that eye color thing before -  that rang all kinds of warning bells for me. 

Now that Jack's testimony is on record, why didn't the hitman just kill Jack in the bar, or outside the bar? Why the intricate plot to abduct him somewhere first - risking the hitman's life up close and personal, and involving hidden helpers, and syringes and whatnot - much that could go wrong? I thought at this stage the whole point for the brothers would be to kill Jack to show other potential witnesses what happens to anyone who don't keep mum. And if so - they'd want the death as public as possible, wouldn't they? Shooting Jack in the bar would be perfect to get that point across. And if Jack could have a note pressed into his hand, he sure could be killed. (Eeep!!  :o )
I believe Janice is right - they wanted D, not Jack - they know Jack has a personal relationship with D because of Jack's own testimony that he was involved with someone while in hiding (it had to have been D - they were on the run together) so they were counting on the fact that Jack would risk his life for D.  I did understand why Jack went outside, I thought his internal dialogue and the way he argued with himself was great, but  I don't think we know yet whether the two separate bad guy groups are communicating - we don't even know yet exactly why the second group wants D. 

And, I have to agree with Janice - Churchill agreeing to let Jack go to that bar was a bonehead move, letting him out of his sight at the bar was another bonehead move, you just can't take chances like that, no matter how sorry you feel for the witness ..... but, it did bring D and Jack together!  I am so anxious for the next chapter!

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Mikaela on October 20, 2007, 06:56:12 am
 
I believe Janice is right - they wanted D, not Jack - they know Jack has a personal relationship with D because of Jack's own testimony that he was involved with someone while in hiding (it had to have been D - they were on the run together) so they were counting on the fact that Jack would risk his life for D. 

I see the bit about how they knew J&D are involved. Good point. But I still am confused as to why the "Brothers" would want to get at D first. What's he to them, - an assassin who took on a contract of theirs and then went back on it, and helped bring a condemning witness to get to actually testify. OK, I can see they would be wanting revenge for that,  but.... I still think the plot to abduct Jack seemed an overly elaborate and strange way of getting back at D.  ???

I think killing Jack, and publicly so, OTOH, surely *would* be highest on their immediate agenda - if nothing else so as to make a point to everyone else contemplating to testify against them, ever. And if they do know the full extent of D's and J's relationship, which I agree seems likely - what better way of getting back at D than killing Jack;  - taking from D the man he loves, rubbing his nose in how he didn't manage to protect Jack from them after all...  They could then get to D in their own good time, he could be dealt with quietly, - his death would not be about making a gory point to witnesses far and wide.

Unless, of course, they're so set in the ways of some screwed-up "Code of honour" that they'll go to any lengths to force any assassin who's taken one of their contracts to carry out the hit - if they have to hunt him till the end of the world, and use Jack as bait. But that would seemingly make the "others" redundant in the storyline!?! Aaarggh!  I give up!  ;D


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I did understand why Jack went outside, I thought his internal dialogue and the way he argued with himself was great.

I completely agree. And I have a serious weakness for Lori's whole "action dentist" thing. He's my kind of dentist.  ;)


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I don't think we know yet whether the two separate bad guy groups are communicating - we don't even know yet exactly why the second group wants D. 

At first I thought the abduction was set up by the second group (since the main aim of it seemed to be getting hold of D, not killing Jack) But then the assassin gave that greeting from "evil lawyer" and I scrapped that idea. Not that everyone wouldn't know of "evil lawyer's"  humiliation, but why should an assassin working for the other group waste time and voice on pretending to work for the brothers to Jack, who he was just going to kill anyway? It didn't matter what Jack thought. Hmmm....


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I am so anxious for the next chapter!

Ditto, of course!  :) Everything will surely become clear once we learn who the "others" are and what their fulll agenda is, and how they're connected to the Brothers, if at all.

Now there are so many plots within plots that my head is spinning - but in the best way!  :)

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MadLori on October 20, 2007, 01:25:37 pm
Hi everyone!  I know I don't come to this board much but I do read it regularly, and I thought I'd come here to address some of your questions.

First, about Brad Salie's substandard witness preparation.  I did mean to imply that Brad HAD been preparing for Jack's cross-examination but we just didn't see it on screen, so to speak, and one can never FULLY prepare a witness for cross.  Brad did warn Jack that his sexuality might be dragged in, and Brad was prepared to refute this assertion if the judge had let it stand.

The point about the eye-color trick is well taken, though.  That's really a mistake on my part.  I should have written it that Carlisle had tried similar tricks before but never that particular trick, because if he was as well known for it as Brad said he was, it'd quickly lose its effectiveness as witnesses were warned against it.  Then again, a slight variation (he could just ask what his tie-tack looks like instead of what color his eyes were if he knew prosecutors were telling their witnesses to make sure and note the attorney's eye color) would make the trick just as effective.  The convo between Jack and Brad in the bar is a bit off, and that's my fault.  Sometimes it's hard to think through the ramifications of every single thing when you're writing chapters this fast, especially when there are so many things to think through as there are in this plot.  It wasn't intended as a subtle hint as to Brad Salie's nefarious motives.

As for the back-alley attack...you're right in that Petros works for the Brothers, and there is no connection between them and the still-unnamed forces who are pursuing D, so this attack was NOT motivated by a desire to hurt D but a desire to kill Jack.  So why didn't they do it in the bar?  They could have.  But consider that a quick, expedient hit would be desirable before Jack's testimony, but once he's given it the situation changes somewhat.  After he's done his damage, his death is primarily useful to the brothers as a deterrent.  Therefore they'd want to make it as long, drawn-out and painful as possible...and that is Petros' speciality, and the entire reason they brought him into this situation.  They obviously can't do that in a bar and would need to remove him to a secure location to torture the hell out of him before dumping his body somewhere public and letting everyone see what had been done to him and over how long a time.  The message being "See?  THIS is what you're in for if you testify."

I'm glad y'all are enjoying the story!  I appreciate all of your comments and feedback.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Mikaela on October 20, 2007, 04:27:18 pm
After he's done his damage, his death is primarily useful to the brothers as a deterrent.  Therefore they'd want to make it as long, drawn-out and painful as possible...and that is Petros' speciality, and the entire reason they brought him into this situation.  They obviously can't do that in a bar and would need to remove him to a secure location to torture the hell out of him before dumping his body somewhere public and letting everyone see what had been done to him and over how long a time.  The message being "See?  THIS is what you're in for if you testify."

**GULP!**  :o  :o  :o

Thanks for replying, Lori. This cleared up my confusion.  :)  The brothers' assassin *was* out to get Jack just as I believed, - I just wasn't thinking evilly enough.

And Petros is still at large so now I'll hardly sleep at night!  There sure are shades of "Shades" here. (And that's totally intended as a compliment!) Petros must be Madrigal's long-lost brother....  I'm absolutely on the *edge* of my seat to know what happens next!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on October 20, 2007, 06:52:24 pm
Hi Lori,

Thanks for dropping by!  It's nice to see the serious discussion of this story develop here.  I'm now so curious about the still "un-named forces" pursuing D.

:)

Amanda

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on October 20, 2007, 07:10:07 pm
Thanks for stoppng by and answering some questions, Lori.  I'm glad Brad's not one of the bad guys!

Yeah, I knew Petros worked for the brothers  - but the people who beat up J.J. are the second group of bad guys and they want Jack dead, too - only for different reasons, right? ....and the scary message about making D kill Jack made me think that maybe Petros was working both sides of the fence....they could kidnap Jack and get D for whatever reason...that there is some connection between the two groups somehow?......well, I'll stop because my head is spinning and I'll wait patiently and see how this all plays out.  Really compelling stuff! 

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MadLori on October 20, 2007, 11:12:36 pm
Thanks for stoppng by and answering some questions, Lori.  I'm glad Brad's not one of the bad guys!

Yeah, I knew Petros worked for the brothers  - but the people who beat up J.J. are the second group of bad guys and they want Jack dead, too - only for different reasons, right? ....and the scary message about making D kill Jack made me think that maybe Petros was working both sides of the fence....they could kidnap Jack and get D for whatever reason...that there is some connection between the two groups somehow?......well, I'll stop because my head is spinning and I'll wait patiently and see how this all plays out.  Really compelling stuff! 

Marie

They don't want Jack dead so much as they want D to kill him.  Does that make sense?  Way back when at the beginning, Jack was just a convenient target.  Their blackmailing of D wasn't about Jack, it was about D.

But now that D and Jack have a relationship, one imagines that they might exploit that relationship to inflict as much harm on D as possible, for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on October 20, 2007, 11:40:19 pm



          I keep having this notion rattling around inside my head...The fact that D said there is nothing they
could do to make him kill Jack...  I can think of one scenario...The torture scene from Shades.  If D saw they
were torturing Jack that way, he would kill him before he let that continue....UUUUUUUUUgggggghhh.  I cant
bear the thought...
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on October 21, 2007, 11:30:09 am
They don't want Jack dead so much as they want D to kill him.  Does that make sense?  Way back when at the beginning, Jack was just a convenient target.  Their blackmailing of D wasn't about Jack, it was about D.

Thanks, Lori.  Yes -that does make sense! I can see that, and my head hurts trying to figure out why? But that's the whole point of a good mystery, isn't it? 

...
But now that D and Jack have a relationship, one imagines that they might exploit that relationship to inflict as much harm on D as possible, for whatever reason.
Yeah, that's very clear!  And I just have to repeat what Mikaela said.  GULP - really scary stuff.

 
          I keep having this notion rattling around inside my head...The fact that D said there is nothing they
could do to make him kill Jack...  I can think of one scenario...The torture scene from Shades.  If D saw they
were torturing Jack that way, he would kill him before he let that continue....UUUUUUUUUgggggghhh.  I cant
bear the thought...
Yeah, that thought occurred to me too, Janice - which is why I was thinking there was some connection between the groups, some way they could use each other to the advantage of both - but that doesn't really make sense either because the second group prevented J.J. from getting to Jack - they have their own agenda because of D......I have to stop thinking now! LOL!

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Mikaela on October 21, 2007, 04:15:36 pm
Yeah, that thought occurred to me too, Janice - which is why I was thinking there was some connection between the groups, some way they could use each other to the advantage of both - but that doesn't really make sense either because the second group prevented J.J. from getting to Jack - they have their own agenda because of D......

Perhaps the best we can hope for is that the two groups trying to get at Jack and D end up fighting each other in all-out war because they deem the other bad guys are in their way.

For some mysterious reason - probably because the tension of Zero makes me crave a little comic relief - the idea of the bad guys' in-fight brought to mind a scene in "Monthy Pyton's Life of Brian". The one where two competing Judean Peoples' Front groups accidentally meet on their way to kidnap the wife of Pilate (I think it is) and end up fighting each other like crazy (literally) because both want to take honour for having thought out the plan and performed the kidnap.  ::) Well, fingers crossed for something similar happening in Zero, but I doubt there's much of a chance of that - the people hunting J&D are too evil. too determined and too persistent to be thusly distracted  - and they might even form an alliance, seeing that their goals *could* be combined to horrifying effect. 

I am *so* hooked on this fic right now - so anxious to see what happens! I bet we're in for some really gruelling cliff-hangerish nailbiting scenes yet.  :o

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I have to stop thinking now! LOL!

You speak for me. Though I still keep speculating, despite myself. It only leads to my head hurting, though.... And the only cure will be the next update, and the one after that!   ;D
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on October 21, 2007, 07:13:03 pm
Perhaps the best we can hope for is that the two groups trying to get at Jack and D end up fighting each other in all-out war because they deem the other bad guys are in their way.
I like your way of thinking!

For some mysterious reason - probably because the tension of Zero makes me crave a little comic relief - the idea of the bad guys' in-fight brought to mind a scene in "Monthy Pyton's Life of Brian". The one where two competing Judean Peoples' Front groups accidentally meet on their way to kidnap the wife of Pilate (I think it is) and end up fighting each other like crazy (literally) because both want to take honour for having thought out the plan and performed the kidnap.  ::) Well, fingers crossed for something similar happening in Zero, but I doubt there's much of a chance of that - the people hunting J&D are too evil. too determined and too persistent to be thusly distracted  - and they might even form an alliance, seeing that their goals *could* be combined to horrifying effect. 

HaHa! Love Monty Python and I know exactly what you're talking about.  But I agree, both sets of bad guys are pros and definitely focused on their targets, and it's the idea of that alliance that has been bouncing around in my head (and making it hurt).


....And the only cure will be the next update, and the one after that!   ;D

I'm torn.  I can't wait for updates - but I don't want the story to end!  I'm so happy a sequel is planned.   I'm not ready to say good-bye to these guys. 

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on October 23, 2007, 12:54:42 am



        Yes  to Madlori...I have been on the edge of my seat from the first chapter..It is only getting more intense.
I love your writing and your stories..This one is particularly compelling..I love it, and thank you for bringing it
to us..I am so happy you continue to have the interest in and muse to write in this fanfic...I think that
Jack and Ennis are such archetypes as to lend themselves to stories to be made in every kind of universe...
thank you again.          janice
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MadLori on October 23, 2007, 01:49:18 am
Chapter 24:

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/90486.html
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Mikaela on October 23, 2007, 02:01:28 am
That dust cloud y'all see hanging in the air here is what was left when I rushed off to read.  ;D

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on October 23, 2007, 04:43:49 am



         Great chapter.  Lots of new insights and hotness too...   
                                                       janice       
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on October 23, 2007, 09:51:37 am
Chapter 24:

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/90486.html

Hooray!  Something to look forward to for when I get home from work!
 :D
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on October 23, 2007, 01:03:03 pm
Hooray!  Something to look forward to for when I get home from work!
 :D

Me, too.  Damn work.    :)   But I don't want to rush through.....

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on October 24, 2007, 02:08:55 pm
SPOILERS








This may have been my favorite chapter yet.  Chock full of all kinds of great stuff - hot and tender and funny and heart-wrenching.  I really like the pacing of D's emotional progression.  And then we have the really intriguing plot lines. 

“Or maybe,” D said, thinking out loud, “Petros sold his services ta somebody else who was willin ta pay more’n the brothers do.”

“You mean…maybe he wasn’t going to take me to the brothers?”

“No way ta know now. But if he was workin fer my blackmailers instead a the brothers…that is troublin news.”


OMG - this is what's been scaring me (on top of everything else) that there's no clear line of demarcation between both "sets" of bad guys - they may have different motivations, but they're equally dangerous and you're never quite sure who's who or what's what.....really great stuff. 

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on October 24, 2007, 02:57:27 pm
SPOILERS...



I agree that this was a fantastic chapter.  And, it's really interesting to see how much Jack and D are opening up to one another in terms of communication... Jack didn't hesitate to finally openly express his feelings about D... and D did not try to shield Jack from the extent of his knowledge and activities regarding protecting Jack and hunting down the different sets of bad guys.  It will be interesting to see when the final step in communication happens and D finally expresses his feelings (verbally) and gives up his name too.

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on October 24, 2007, 09:19:35 pm


         I have been reading so much of Lori's writing for so long, until I feel I am running out of ways to express
my love for her stories..My list of adjetives are starting to sound trite. 
          This story is wonderful and the characters are so well defined..The connection they hav is great and the excitment is
teriffic too...Cant wait to get the next chapter,,but as you said, I hate to see it come to an end....glad she is planning
a sequel also....go go Lori....
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on November 07, 2007, 10:18:42 pm


**Update today**
 :D :D :D

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/91024.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/91024.html)

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on November 08, 2007, 10:16:49 am
I'm dying to hear what people think about this recent update!



**Spoilers and questions**

Do you really think that there's no realistic chance for D and Jack to be together beyond this one weekend?  I still keep wondering why D couldn't go into witness protection with Jack.  I liked Jack's suggestion to Megen about actually just staying with D rather than going into witness protection....  But, I think she's right that it would put too much stress on D to feel like he was constantly responsible for protecting Jack as well as figuring out his own problems.  But, still... wouldn't D entering the same type of protective program as Jack help him in the same way that it would help Jack? 

And, this chapter really brought up all sorts of interesting, scary questions about who they can really trust.  I'm very curious about Megen's role in knowing about the initial contract for D to kill Jack.  I got really curious when she was remembering that scenario and thinking that she would have been ready to kill D if he looked like he was going to go through with the initial assassination of Jack.

I'm constantly amazed and impressed by how complex this plot is.
:)

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on November 08, 2007, 11:56:42 am
I'm dying to hear what people think about this recent update!



**Spoilers and questions**

Do you really think that there's no realistic chance for D and Jack to be together beyond this one weekend?  I still keep wondering why D couldn't go into witness protection with Jack.  I liked Jack's suggestion to Megen about actually just staying with D rather than going into witness protection....  But, I think she's right that it would put too much stress on D to feel like he was constantly responsible for protecting Jack as well as figuring out his own problems.  But, still... wouldn't D entering the same type of protective program as Jack help him in the same way that it would help Jack? 

And, this chapter really brought up all sorts of interesting, scary questions about who they can really trust.  I'm very curious about Megen's role in knowing about the initial contract for D to kill Jack.  I got really curious when she was remembering that scenario and thinking that she would have been ready to kill D if he looked like he was going to go through with the initial assassination of Jack.

I'm constantly amazed and impressed by how complex this plot is.
:)




SPOILERS




Hi Amanda,

Yes, this chapter left me kind of awestruck - not only by the intelligent complexity of the plot(s), but by the emotional intensity.  Damn. 

I think there are lots of reasons D can't go into the witness protection program with Jack....the main one being - he's not a witness!   :)  He doesn't qualify for the program and the "protection" it provides.  Now, I guess he could, in theory, hide with Jack while he's in the witness protection program, but there's all kinds of problems with that, too, as D pointed out.  Yeah, he'd be stressed trying to protect Jack all the time, but he'd actually be putting Jack in more danger by being with him.  D has a really, really big bad target on his back right now - and until that goes away (I have no idea how), he won't  risk Jack's life by being with him.  This is all aside from the fact that Jack will always be a target, too.  Gah!  So.....D's mission does seem rather daunting, doesn't it?  But you know what, Petros and all the other bad guys seem untouchable right now.  But they're not.  They're not infallible - if they were, Jack and D wouldn't have made it this far. There's not a person alive without weaknesses, you just have to find them.  So, yeah, I do think there's a realistic chance that things can work out.

But it's pretty clear that things are gonna get really, really ugly.  And whatever resolution takes place won't come without some kind of sacrifice, somewhere along the way. 

Okay, I'm ready for the next chapter.   ;)

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on November 08, 2007, 01:27:15 pm
Spoilers***


Well, I think Churchill (and by extension witness protection programs, etc.) are already breaking the rules when it comes to D.  They're already extending protection to him by letting him stay in the guarded-room with Jack.  So, yes, he's not a witness... but the authorities seem to be treating him as a figure worthy of protection even now.  And, yes, both D and Jack are targeted and are both in danger... which is why the witness protection program would seem like at least an OK option for both.  I would guess that Jack would prefer to live with D even if D is a target than to live without him in relative (or in increased) safety.

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on November 08, 2007, 02:22:45 pm
Well, I think Churchill (and by extension witness protection programs, etc.) are already breaking the rules when it comes to D.  They're already extending protection to him by letting him stay in the guarded-room with Jack.  So, yes, he's not a witness... but the authorities seem to be treating him as a figure worthy of protection even now.  And, yes, both D and Jack are targeted and are both in danger... which is why the witness protection program would seem like at least an OK option for both.  I would guess that Jack would prefer to live with D even if D is a target than to live without him in relative (or in increased) safety.


SPOILERS





Yep, I see what you're saying - it's a complex situation to be sure.  But.....even though Churchill personally has regard for Ennis and Jack's relationship - I don't think that extends beyond him.   As to the authorities treating D as a figure worthy of protection ...no, I don't get that impression.  I don't think letting D stay in Jack's room means they are extending protection to him.   In fact, no one has the right to deny Jack the right to have D or anyone else of his choosing in his room (as long as they were deemed safe).  He's not under arrest - he could walk right out the door of the hotel room if he chose to (which, of course, he wouldn't!)  Beyond whatever personal feelings Churchill has, I don't see Witsec as having any interest in protecting D.   In fact, they can't wait to get Jack into hiding  - and having D along only complicates matters for them.  Of course, once Jack started a new life, there would be nothing to stop D from joining him (if he could find him, which I don't doubt that D could  :) ).   But Witsec certainly isn't going to be telling D where Jack is and D knows that.   

Yes, I certainly agree that right now Jack would prefer to live with D under any conditions!  But, it was my impression from this conversation that he realizes the ultimate futility of that arrangement and agreed with D:

D was nearly struck dumb by that sentiment, but he didn’t let it show. “That’s las night talkin, and all this drama,” he said. “That ain’t fer real. Come a time you’d be sorry, and you’d regret it, and I ain’t gonna be enough ta make all that go away. I don’t want that fer you, y’hear me?” Jack said nothing, eyes downcast. “I ain’t gonna let you lose what you worked for. It’s part a who you are and I ain’t lettin no part a you get destroyed.” He hesitated. “You gotta trust me, Jack.”

At that, Jack lifted his eyes and met D’s. “I trust you.”


I don't have any ideas at all how this can be resolved!  D seemed to have some sort of a plan before, but now with this Josey complication - I don't know....there's just so much against them.  But I keep holding on to the idea that there will be a sequel!   :)

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MadLori on November 08, 2007, 03:01:04 pm

I don't have any ideas at all how this can be resolved!  D seemed to have some sort of a plan before, but now with this Josey complication - I don't know....there's just so much against them.  But I keep holding on to the idea that there will be a sequel!   :)

Marie

There will be.  :-)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Mikaela on November 08, 2007, 07:26:07 pm

SPOILERS

But it's pretty clear that things are gonna get really, really ugly.  And whatever resolution takes place won't come without some kind of sacrifice, somewhere along the way. 

Okay, I'm ready for the next chapter.   ;)


You and me both, to be sure! I see over on the DC forum that Lori is saying only 3 more chapters and an epilogue to come, (before the much-expected sequel) -  which has me guessing that things will seriously heat up in the next chapter - I'm betting that our "friend" Petros will make himself known again in the worst way. Eeeep!

Wow, this is such a complex and exciting fic.

Concerning why Ennis D can't go into the witness program, I've chalked it up to red tape and left it at that. Such systems can be incredibly formalistic and bureaucratic, sometimes. (I remember Amy commented after the chapter of "Shades" where the planned-for trial against Hinestroza fell through, that the subsequent treatment of Jack there was entirely realistic & true to the way of things in real life: One moment Shades Jack was in Witness protection, next he was virtually out in the streets on his butt and on his own, though certainly no less in danger from the mob than before. But he was no witness anymore, so no protection forthcoming. Good luck to you, Mr. Twist - and there's the door.)  ::)

Which doesn't hide the additional fact that it ups the tension and drama to new heights to have Jack and D part ways in the barrage of alll these dangers and threats, so it certainly serves the fic development to keep Witsec closed to D.

Then again he had some further reasons in the previous chapter why he couldn't go into Witsec - something to do with his military record and keeping his identity and the fact that he is alive under wraps.... But I guess that is not at all relevant anymore, given this chapter's surprising and scary development. D's cover is blown big time anyway.

I do think it makes sense though for D to want Jack to go into as safe a situation as possible, and for them to keep apart - two separate hidden and moving targets more difficult to track down than one, and more "freedom" for D to solve the current mess somehow without focusing his energy on protecting Jack. And it makes sense that Jack realizes that too - D needs all his resources on handling this situation without any Jack "distractions". Still you gotta admire the two of them. They sure do love each other to go through with this. Personal sacrifices all around.

As for how D will resolve the whole thing.... I was thinking earlier that he might do some kind of "deal with the devil", and perhaps that *is* still in the cards as far as Jack's situation is concerned.... but as for Josey, I'd say her chances of survival in this are pretty slim. She seems so determined to carry the feud to the grave, it's probably down to either her or D....  :o

Well, can you tell I'm totally hooked? I love ZatB to pieces, and speculate about the next events quite a bit.

Lori, you totally rock! :)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MadLori on November 09, 2007, 12:15:30 am
Thanks, everyone, for the great comments and thoughts...it's always fascinating to read what people predict for upcoming events, or how they're working through possible scenarios in their head.  Some ideas put forth are very close to what's about to happen, some aren't.

I just hope that the actual unfolding of the story's events live up to your expectations!

Thanks for reading! 
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on November 09, 2007, 01:07:40 pm
There will be.  :-)

I just hope that the actual unfolding of the story's events live up to your expectations!

Thanks, Lori!   :)  I don't doubt that for a second! 


Then again he had some further reasons in the previous chapter why he couldn't go into Witsec - something to do with his military record and keeping his identity and the fact that he is alive under wraps.... But I guess that is not at all relevant anymore, given this chapter's surprising and scary development. D's cover is blown big time anyway.

I do think it makes sense though for D to want Jack to go into as safe a situation as possible, and for them to keep apart - two separate hidden and moving targets more difficult to track down than one, and more "freedom" for D to solve the current mess somehow without focusing his energy on protecting Jack. And it makes sense that Jack realizes that too - D needs all his resources on handling this situation without any Jack "distractions". Still you gotta admire the two of them. They sure do love each other to go through with this. Personal sacrifices all around.

Great thoughts, Mikaela!  I can't remember specifically - but isn't D kind of officially a non-entity to the government?  I had the impression that he kind of doesn't even really "exist" as far as they are concerned?  But, anyways,  the very strong impression I'm getting is that it is very important to D that he can become "Ennis" again.  That he can stop hiding behind false identities, strip all that away once and for all, and become a man "worthy" of Jack and Jack's unconditional love.  He doesn't believe he is there yet - and I don't think he'll feel he is ever at that point until he's resolved the issues of his past (as far as they can be resolved.)  I'm thinking that when D tells Jack his real name, it'll be the "ultimate" moment of this story.  And it's also important to D, as he's pointed out, that Jack can remain "Dr. Jack Twist."  I think he's had enough "pretending" and hiding in his life.  So, I guess that's why (apart from the red-tape and bureaucratic issues) I don't see Witsec as an option for D.   It would be jarring for me to envision that, but Lori's a good enough writer to make almost anything believable!

The odds really do seem stacked against both of them right now - and I don't have the imagination to create a workable scenario! 

Three or so more chapters and an epilogue?  Wow - action-packed nail biters, for sure!

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on November 09, 2007, 01:55:33 pm
I'm thinking that when D tells Jack his real name, it'll be the "ultimate" moment of this story. 

I sooooooo agree and I think I might not survive that moment... I might be dead on the floor even before he gets around to saying it or Jack gets around to telling him he knows.

I second Mikaela, you rock, Lori! This is still one of the most original and well-written au/au fanfics ever written! I take this Jack and Ennis with me in my heart just like I do with os!J&E!
Hurry back soon with a new chapter, will ya?

 :-*

Mel
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on November 25, 2007, 11:18:22 pm
Hot off the presses - Chapter 26!

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/91742.html?view=2177886#t2177886 (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/91742.html?view=2177886#t2177886)


SPOILER









OH.MY.GOD.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on November 27, 2007, 06:39:08 am
Hot off the presses - Chapter 26!

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/91742.html?view=2177886#t2177886 (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/91742.html?view=2177886#t2177886)


SPOILER

OH.MY.GOD.


I agree. Oh. My. God.

I startled my boyfriend by yelling NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 :'( :'( :'(

God, this was the most intense chapter in any story in the entire fandom!  :o









Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on November 27, 2007, 01:45:19 pm


          What Marie, and Mel said..it was very intense.. Boy oh boy.     LORI ROCKS
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on November 28, 2007, 10:24:54 pm
This story is just so awesome!  I waited to read this update until I was sure I could handle the intensity of it (given the warning about violence at the beginning).   The action in this was definitely intense and it wasn't predictable, which definitely kept me at the edge of my seat.  Can't wait for the conclusion.
8)

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: RouxB on November 30, 2007, 01:17:35 am
I was 3 hours late for work because I made the mistake of starting to read it at 8 in the morning!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: souxi on November 30, 2007, 08:01:56 am
Chapter 27!!
http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/92354.html
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on November 30, 2007, 08:22:20 am


            Very emotional .  Wonderful chapter.  I really love this story...
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on November 30, 2007, 09:55:39 am
SPOILER....








A grim little smile creased his lips as morning broke over Maryland…a smile that meant only one thing: that someone was going to be very, very sorry.



YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!  8)



Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on November 30, 2007, 11:54:09 am
Chapter 27!!
http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/92354.html


Yeehaw!  Some more good reading to look forward to for the weekend!
8)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on November 30, 2007, 03:55:08 pm
SPOILER






I really liked the rhythm of this chapter.  Yeah, we can take a quick breath, but there's still so much to be resolved. 

OMG, poor Megan.  She and D really are kindred spirits and I have to believe they'll always have a special place in each other's hearts. 

As much as it's a relief to see Jack in relative safety, it hurts to thnk of him as generic, ordinary, everyday Jack "Thompson" because he's none of those things.  But I know he won't give up on D.

And this made me feel so good:

“Hate ta think a him without that doctor bag.”

Yes!  D still has his plan (whatever it is) to make sure that Jack can return to his profession.  As he said to Megan:  “What I want is ta give him what he wants.”  

As always, can't wait for the next chapter!  I know he as to deal with the Brothers.  But how? 

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on December 02, 2007, 03:34:52 am


**Spoilers, etc.**

I loved this chapter (as usual with this story :) ).  Poor D crying his eyes out with Megen.  I totally love Megen she's just such an awesome character.  And, it's very reassuring to know that D has someone so loyal and so *good* at dealing with all of these situations to help him navigate all of this.  And, of course, it's also good that they're actually real, supportive friends for one another now (not anonymous text messages between X and D anymore).

The last line was awesome.  I agree Mel. 8)  I'm guessing we're all in for some more excitement soon to come.

I can't really figure out what D has in mind for the ultimate resolution to (1) getting back to being with Jack and (2) getting Jack his life back.  I really like that this story is so unpredictable.

Very smart.
8)

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: souxi on January 01, 2008, 07:32:58 am
Has anyone heard anything from Lori? It,s been ages and ages since TCJ was updated(september) and about a month for Zero at the Bone. I was hoping for a chapter over Christmas. I miss both of these stories very much. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on January 04, 2008, 02:38:03 pm
For all those waiting for "Zero" and 'TCJ" - a status report/note from Lori.  I'll quote the most important line: "Don't panic, nothing bad."

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/93016.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/93016.html)

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on January 04, 2008, 02:59:11 pm
Thanks for the info Marie!
:)

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on January 04, 2008, 04:01:03 pm
I wonder which fandom she is writing in.... :D
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on January 10, 2008, 09:59:42 pm


Yeehaw!!! Update!  :D

Chapter 28
http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/93264.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/93264.html)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MaineWriter on January 10, 2008, 10:09:10 pm
I wonder which fandom she is writing in.... :D

This was at the end of her Zero chapter:

Oops, sorry I forgot to put in the info about my other fic as I promised. Fixing that now.

I am writing a multichaptered fic in the "Tin Man" universe, if anybody cares. I am doing something revolutionary with it...I'm writing the whole thing before posting and I'm in love with this method. In fact, I will probably use it for the possible Zero sequel. I can go back and change things, insert scenes, fix mistakes...and once I start posting I can stick to a strict schedule and never worry about falling behind or keeping people waiting. Yay.

Anyhow. Another first for me...I will be posting this story under a pseudonym, but if enough people are interested I will also post it on this community.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on January 11, 2008, 02:32:18 pm
SPOILERS







That was hard.  Talk about "close but yet so far..."   I knew D couldn't show up, and that made it even harder for me to watch Jack's anticipation. 

I'm glad he had that talk with Megan and voiced his very natural (and realistic) fears.  A "normal" life, which kind of strips everything to it's basics without the intense highs and lows, can often be the most difficult thing to deal with.  I do hope Lori does follow through with a sequel because there would be so many issues to explore.

D's brand of tenderness in the letter was so touching it broke my heart, but it also gave me hope in its honesty.  Even though we don't "see" D in this chapter, I felt his anguish and his yearning every bit as strongly as Jack's.  An intensely moving chapter.

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on January 11, 2008, 03:07:06 pm
**Spoilers**


I'm not surprised that D didn't show up... but somehow it almost feels like he was behaving like a "tease" by going to the house just before Jack shows up.  Somehow I feel like it would have been better if he hadn't gone at all.  I am glad that he conveyed the note to Jack (but maybe he could have done this via a note from Megan and some other venue).  It's also nice to know that he says he's kept his promise to Jack and hasn't killed anyone.  It's hard to imagine just exactly what his plan/ strategy is... still at this juncture.

This definitely felt like a transitional chapter to me.  It'll be interesting to see how this complex plot is brought to a conclusion in just a few chapters as seems to be Lori's goal now.



Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on January 11, 2008, 07:28:48 pm
**Spoilers**


I'm not surprised that D didn't show up... but somehow it almost feels like he was behaving like a "tease" by going to the house just before Jack shows up.  Somehow I feel like it would have been better if he hadn't gone at all.  I am glad that he conveyed the note to Jack (but maybe he could have done this via a note from Megan and some other venue).  It's also nice to know that he says he's kept his promise to Jack and hasn't killed anyone.  It's hard to imagine just exactly what his plan/ strategy is... still at this juncture.

This definitely felt like a transitional chapter to me.  It'll be interesting to see how this complex plot is brought to a conclusion in just a few chapters as seems to be Lori's goal now.

SPOILERS

I guess I see that a little differently..."behaving like a tease" doesn't strike me as D's style at all.  I think one of the great ironies of D (and OS Ennis, also) is that he is, at heart, an honest, no bs kind of man, forced to live a lie - which, of course, only compounds his inner turmoil. I  found his letter so incredibly moving and sincere.  But most importantly, I didn't get the impression that Jack saw it as a tease. 

He buried his head in the pillow and smiled; a faint smell of D remained.

I think he saw that as the gift D intended it to be - "sharing" the bed in the only way they could and allowing Jack to open up a part of himself he'd kept buried for three months.  A frustrating scene, for sure, but I also thought it had a beautiful poignancy. 

It really is hard to imagine what kind of plan he has in the works, isn't it?  I know my mind isn't up to the task!  LOL!  Yep, we're entering the home stretch and that leaves me with all kinds of conflicting feelings about seeing the story conclude.  I imagine we'll get a "D" chapter next, and I already can't wait.

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on January 11, 2008, 08:55:58 pm
**Spoilers**

Oh no... I didn't mean to imply that D was intentionally "behaving like a tease", but to me that was something of the effect of his decision to go to the house and make it obvious to Jack that he had been there, but deliberately leave before Jack arrived.  I do understand the intention was to connect with Jack on some level... but I still think that simultaneously, on another level it was sort of cruel.




Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Mikaela on January 11, 2008, 09:04:55 pm
**possible plot spoiler**



I liked this chapter immensely, I felt Jack's fears and doubts made the whole story more grounded in reality.... Transition from a nearly surreal hyper-existence, living intensely on a knife's edge at all times - to a life filled with ordinary everyday events - and with time for reflection and introspection.

I admit I have been struggling more than a bit with the plot point of Jack and D not meeting up again for 3 years (which I think has been mentioned previously in Lori's comments) - because I thought the reason for this would be that D would be unable to locate Jack given the Witness protection thing. And I thought that was a real stretch for me to believe in - when they could easily enough have agreed some way to get in touch, or D could get info via Churchill or Megen, etc. I also struggled with believing in any significantly increased risk of the brothers finding Jack even if he and D were meeting up and staying close, which had previously also been mentioned as a reason for the two of them to not get in touch and to stay in the dark about each other's whereabouts.

This chapter totally removed my issues with their staying apart, I don't have to suspend disbelief anymore, - as this gave me a reason that I could believe in, one that made complete sense both in terms of D's character and the plot. I totally bought D's note and his inability to face meeting up with Jack only for them to part again. Given the intensity of his emotions and loss of control on display in that horrible last scene with Josie I can see how D believes - or fears - that meeting Jack again would destroy his ability to keep his emotions under lock and key once and for all, thus making it impossible to focus single-mindedly on his goal - which ultimately is worth it to him missing Jack for a long period,  as it's all about giving Jack his old life back in some sort of atonement.  

Zero keeps surprising me in the best way: Chapter upon chapter presents some (or much!!) development I wasn't expecting (ie. in this one;  Jack's courageously clearly-voiced and numerous insecurities, doubts and misgivings, including those concerning D's shady hitman character past), but once I've read it, I just can't see at all how it could have been any different! That's really good writing - the best!!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MadLori on January 12, 2008, 02:53:04 am
**possible plot spoiler**

I admit I have been struggling more than a bit with the plot point of Jack and D not meeting up again for 3 years (which I think has been mentioned previously in Lori's comments)

I've said that three years will pass between Zero and its sequel, but I never said that Jack and D would be apart for those three years.  I did say they'd have a period of separation, and we're in the midst of it now, but I never said it'd be a three year separation.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Mikaela on January 12, 2008, 06:30:13 am
Thank you for the clarification, I'd obviously misunderstood that. Well good on them - and on us -  if they're not going to be apart that long!  :)  Nevertheless, even if they're apart for a shorter while than that, my point still stands firmly about being happier about the current part of the plot now cause it makes much better sense to me.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: RouxB on March 06, 2008, 05:22:55 am
New chapter up-perfect timing with all the craziness happening (again  :( ) at LJ
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on March 06, 2008, 06:02:19 am
New chapter up-perfect timing with all the craziness happening (again  :( ) at LJ

What's happening at lj, Roux?

Can't wait to come home and read this...
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: souxi on March 06, 2008, 06:44:39 am
And here is the link.
http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/94367.html#cutid1
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on March 06, 2008, 11:17:37 am
Yeehaw!!!  This is so exciting!  I also can't wait to read this later this evening! 8)


Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: RouxB on March 06, 2008, 04:22:32 pm
What's happening at lj, Roux?

Can't wait to come home and read this...

Huge devisiveness over Jake. It is all so stupid-but everyone is so over the top emotionally I have to cut them some slack. I just wish folks could disagree without getting so flipppin' superior and nasty. So many people have a need to be validated by having others agree with them and that's what is going on over there.

Anyway, back to the topic-I'm home sickish so I can't wait to finish reading Lori's latest installment.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on March 06, 2008, 05:18:15 pm
Huge devisiveness over Jake. It is all so stupid-but everyone is so over the top emotionally I have to cut them some slack. I just wish folks could disagree without getting so flipppin' superior and nasty. So many people have a need to be validated by having others agree with them and that's what is going on over there.

Anyway, back to the topic-I'm home sickish so I can't wait to finish reading Lori's latest installment.


Hahaha I am happily oblivious to the whole thing! :)

Hope you feel better soon, rouxb!  :-*
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on March 06, 2008, 05:46:47 pm
Hunh.  I didn't know there was controversy over Jake over at LJ either. :(  It sounds depressing.


Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on April 09, 2008, 09:00:08 am
Chapter 30 is up! 

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/96222.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/96222.html)

SPOILERS












A master class in excellent writing.  Considering the premise of this story, it would have been so easy for Lori to fall into the trap of artificial angst or over-the-top melodrama, but she maintains a tight control over her characters and her storyline.  She not only understands her characters, she respects them as well.  That is something that is very important to me as a reader.  Hard to choose, but maybe my favorite part:

...D whipped out a camera and snapped photos. “You’re such a tourist,” Jack laughed.

“Fuckin moose, Jack! Look at that sucker! He’s huge!” He pointed, grinning like a child, looking back at Jack with his face full of open wonder.

Jack smiled, watching Ennis, a lump rising in his throat.


Yep - his Ennis.   :)

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on May 23, 2008, 01:22:01 pm


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Madlori!!


Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on May 23, 2008, 01:38:14 pm

(http://bestsmileys.com/birthday1/8.gif)

Madlori!!


I'll add my birthday wishes for Lori to yours, Amanda!  I don't think she's been here for a few months, but I'm guessing/hoping she's busy writing!   :)

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mvansand76 on May 23, 2008, 01:42:27 pm
Prettige verjaardag Lori!!!!

 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on May 25, 2008, 12:06:00 am
Well, yeehaw!  For those of you waiting on this... the epilogue was posted tonight! 8)

Plus there's info about a forthcoming sequel! 8)

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/96294.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/96294.html)

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on May 27, 2008, 06:15:34 pm
That was a terrific epilogue, as well as a terrific prologue to the sequel.  I'm glad Lori will be completing the sequel before she begins posting it.   I can see that they're going to have some tremendously frustrating issues to deal with, and if I have enough willpower  :-\, I think it will be something I'd like to read all at once.

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on May 27, 2008, 10:55:09 pm
That was a terrific epilogue, as well as a terrific prologue to the sequel.  I'm glad Lori will be completing the sequel before she begins posting it.   I can see that they're going to have some tremendously frustrating issues to deal with, and if I have enough willpower  :-\, I think it will be something I'd like to read all at once.

Marie

I agree that it was a super epilogue!  And, I love how complex everything about this story is.  The high drama... and the really complex emotional situations between Jack and D (but also within each one).

Yeah, now that they've reached their equivalent of a "sweet life", things will continue to ramp up in complexity on the emotional side of things it seems.




Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on June 27, 2008, 01:17:08 pm
A Zero at the Bone one-shot, entitled "Time after Time" -

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/97232.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/97232.html)

SPOILERS




Gorgeous writing, as always.  But, as with the epilogue, I'm left feeling so unsettled, almost depressed.  And not about the outwardly "dangerous" stuff.  Maybe it's just my mood, but everything seems to have an ominous air about it, even the stuff that shouldn't.   :-\  I'm really intrigued.

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brokeback_Dev on June 27, 2008, 01:42:04 pm
Hi friends.  I read the whole story just this past week.  It was cool cause it was finished.  I dont know how y'all waited for her to post the next chapter...the anticipation and the waiting. 

Zero was a very good AUAU..  I could never get into that before, but this one is wonderful.  MadLori is an excellent ff writer for sure.  Thank you Lori!~!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on July 27, 2008, 07:42:55 pm

 :D
FYI, Lori posted a second One Shot continuing the Zero story!!
http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/97720.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/97720.html)

 :D

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on July 29, 2008, 02:05:37 pm
:D
FYI, Lori posted a second One Shot continuing the Zero story!!
http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/97720.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/97720.html)

 :D



SPOILERS



I thought this one-shot was particularly well done and it confirms my feeling that the sequel may be an even "darker" and more complex story than Zero - but on different levels and in different ways.  If that makes any sense.   :-\  In any event, great writing.

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Mikaela on August 04, 2008, 05:23:51 am
SPOILERS



I thought this one-shot was particularly well done and it confirms my feeling that the sequel may be an even "darker" and more complex story than Zero - but on different levels and in different ways. 

I agree - the two one-shots have wetted my appetite for the sequel even more than Zero did on its own, if that is even possible.


Did anyone else think that Jack's resolute handling the muggers was a foreshadowing and trial run of the "Action Dentist" activity he'll have to engage in in the sequel proper, in order to help or protect D....?

I really don't know enough about the sequel's topic to be sure of anything, which is good of course - but it has me speculating nevertheless!  :)

I have such high expectations for that sequel, it's almost... worrying. Good thing that Lori seems to be able to handle the pressure of fans' eager anticipations! I know the sequel will be a long time coming, probably, but IMO it's one reason I can't quit BBM fanfiction although the really good offerings are getting a bit more scarce now - I have to keep at it till I've read that sequel!


Can'tWaitCan'tWaitCan'tWaitCan'tWaitCan'tWaitCan'tWaitCan'tWait OMG!  ;D
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on August 05, 2008, 01:17:48 pm
Did anyone else think that Jack's resolute handling the muggers was a foreshadowing and trial run of the "Action Dentist" activity he'll have to engage in in the sequel proper, in order to help or protect D....?

I really don't know enough about the sequel's topic to be sure of anything, which is good of course - but it has me speculating nevertheless!  :)

I'm not sure what to think, Mikaela.  It seemed to me that Jack's actions were a manifestation of his growing resentment and anger towards Ennis's long absences (and maybe toward Ennis himself at the same time) and his issues and insecurities with what he perceives to be his "role" in their relationship.  I guess they could also be foreshadowing to some "Action Dentist" activity - they're not mutually exclusive.  D's issues were laid out before us pretty clearly in Zero, so I guess I was thinking that the sequel was going to be more about Jack's journey and his issues - which he's kind of kept under wraps until now.  But, again, I'm sure the sequel will have many layers and plot-lines to it!  I'm just very bad about guessing specifics! 

I know Lori is going to write the entire sequel before posting it and I said I was going to try and wait until the entire story was posted before I read, but I can already feel my resolve slipping.  :)

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on December 05, 2008, 03:27:35 pm
It appears that Lori probably won't be writing anything more in the "Zero" universe.  Here's what she posted at the Human Interest community:

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/ (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/)

As wonderful as they were, now I'm kind of wishing I hadn't read those "in-between" one-shots and that the epilogue didn't leave me feeling so unsettled ...  :-\   but it really was a terrific story.

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on December 08, 2008, 07:49:01 pm
Exciting news for Lori about Zero:

Here's the beginning of what she posted at the Human Interest community:

Okay, folks.

*deep breath*

I can now tell you the real reason why I am not continuing writing in the Zero universe.

And that's because IT'S GOING TO BE PUBLISHED. Yeah, baby
....

and the link to the remainder of her post.

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/99701.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/99701.html)

Congratulations to Lori. 


Marie

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: belbbmfan on December 09, 2008, 02:55:14 am
Wow!

Thanks for posting that Marie.


Congratulations to Lori!!  :)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brokeback_Dev on December 09, 2008, 08:58:01 am
Way to go Lori! 
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Monika on December 09, 2008, 08:59:47 am
Congrats to Lori. Well deserved!

I don´t know how many times I´ve read Zero, but probably more times than I´d care to admitt ;D

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on December 09, 2008, 11:05:33 am
Exciting news for Lori about Zero:

Here's the beginning of what she posted at the Human Interest community:

Okay, folks.

*deep breath*

I can now tell you the real reason why I am not continuing writing in the Zero universe.

And that's because IT'S GOING TO BE PUBLISHED. Yeah, baby
....

and the link to the remainder of her post.

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/99701.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/99701.html)

Congratulations to Lori. 


Marie



Wow!  This really is exciting.  I was pretty confused to hear that Lori was ceasing the Zero writing, since it seems like a story she was so committed to.  I'm really curious about the plans for publishing it.  Will she change the characters' names?  Will the "secret" of D's real name have to be changed?  And will Jack still be Jack?

Can't wait to learn more about these developments.

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on December 09, 2008, 11:16:20 am
... Will she change the characters' names?  Will the "secret" of D's real name have to be changed?  And will Jack still be Jack?

Can't wait to learn more about these developments.

Hi Amanda  :)

If you click on the link, Lori answers the question about the names at the end of her post:

Oh, and I know you'll want to know the new names. Happily, one of the benefits of this story is that D can still be D! That makes me really happy, because it'd just be weird to be reading about that character named R or J or something. His real name has been changed to Anson Dane. I considered keeping Jack's first name Jack, but decided against it, and just kept the first initial, so Dr. Jack Twist is now Dr. Josh Francisco.


Also, I popped in to give the link to yet another post about Zero.  Lori is giving notice that she will remove the original Zero in ONE WEEK (from 12/8).   So, anyone who would hasn't yet saved the story and would like to should start now!

http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/100033.html (http://community.livejournal.com/humaninterest/100033.html)

Marie
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on December 10, 2008, 06:03:17 pm


       What an exciting event this is going to be..How  ..Wonderful for her.........


                      CONGRATULATIONS             MIZ LORI
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Monika on April 05, 2009, 09:03:38 am
My lap top had a little "accident" so If someone would send me a new copy of Zero at the Bone, I´d be a very happy puppy



edit. I´m now a very happy puppy
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: retropian on June 26, 2009, 09:17:05 pm
I'm almost done reading ZATB, and I am blown away at how good it is. I think I'm going to have to add this to my favorites list for sure. I highly highly recommend it to anyone who hasn't read it. If you're like I once was; adverse to AU BBM fanfiction, well don't be!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: louisev on June 26, 2009, 09:37:42 pm
She certainly has a lot of readers for it and a lot of interest.  I couldn't buy the premise of a contract killer having a romantic liaison with the man he's hired to shoot to death, or having him be a romantic lead.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: retropian on June 26, 2009, 10:43:36 pm
She certainly has a lot of readers for it and a lot of interest.  I couldn't buy the premise of a contract killer having a romantic liaison with the man he's hired to shoot to death, or having him be a romantic lead.

I couldn't buy the premise either for a long time, which is why I had never read it before now. Until recently I avoided AU fanfiction because I just couldn't accept Jack and Ennis in a story like "Zero at the Bone" where one is a hitman for hire, and the other his target. I think what changed for me was to accept the characters of Jack and Ennis a archetypes. In an AU story you'll find they generally retain certain defining character traits: Jack is more open and accepting of his sexuality. He seeks and hopes for the sweet life with Ennis. Ennis in these stories is the more stoic and troubled character. The one who feels deeply, but is afraid or too repressed to show it. What character traits of Jack and Ennis are emphasized in a particular story depends upon the author and how they were inspired. Additionally, it helps to imagine Jake and Heath in the roles. I would encourage you to give ZATB and others a try. How one character became a hitman is well explained I think, as is how and why he falls in love with his intended victim. Like me you might be pleasantly surprised. Some of these stories are really very well done.

Ian
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on June 26, 2009, 11:04:54 pm
Zero and Human Interest are among the best stories I've ever read.  Zero is just flat out a really smart story (even without the Jack and Ennis/ fanfic interest).  I think those two, in addition to Somebody New by Jenna are pretty much my all-time favorites.  I have a lot of favorites, but those stories always stand out.

I'm still holding out a lot of hope that Lori will finish TCJ at some point too.

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: louisev on June 27, 2009, 12:21:27 am
I couldn't buy the premise either for a long time, which is why I had never read it before now. Until recently I avoided AU fanfiction because I just couldn't accept Jack and Ennis in a story like "Zero at the Bone" where one is a hitman for hire, and the other his target. I think what changed for me was to accept the characters of Jack and Ennis a archetypes. In an AU story you'll find they generally retain certain defining character traits: Jack is more open and accepting of his sexuality. He seeks and hopes for the sweet life with Ennis. Ennis in these stories is the more stoic and troubled character. The one who feels deeply, but is afraid or too repressed to show it. What character traits of Jack and Ennis are emphasized in a particular story depends upon the author and how they were inspired. Additionally, it helps to imagine Jake and Heath in the roles. I would encourage you to give ZATB and others a try. How one character became a hitman is well explained I think, as is how and why he falls in love with his intended victim. Like me you might be pleasantly surprised. Some of these stories are really very well done.

Ian

I did read it, at least the first half of it.  And I've read many AU's.  That wasn't the problem.  The problem is the lack of romantic quality in the character she made out of Ennis, and the fact that he is a coldhearted killer who escapes punishment for his crimes.  Nuh-huh.  No way, never.  I won't accept a fictional universe in which a hero is a man who escapes punishment for murder.  Many murders.  They weren't accidents, they weren't defending the innocent, they weren't war.  They were murders, and a universe of order does not permit murderers to go unpunished and become romantic heroes.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: retropian on June 27, 2009, 01:02:12 am
I did read it, at least the first half of it.  And I've read many AU's.  That wasn't the problem.  The problem is the lack of romantic quality in the character she made out of Ennis, and the fact that he is a coldhearted killer who escapes punishment for his crimes.  Nuh-huh.  No way, never.  I won't accept a fictional universe in which a hero is a man who escapes punishment for murder.  Many murders.  They weren't accidents, they weren't defending the innocent, they weren't war.  They were murders, and a universe of order does not permit murderers to go unpunished and become romantic heroes.

Ok. I see your point. There are a few fanfic's I didn't like either. Like you I started reading them and just couldn't finish. I don't even remember which they were now. It's all a matter of personal taste.


(Spoiler) Ennis in this fic isn't all bad. He chooses his contracts, which are usually those who have escaped justice. He provides extra-judcial justice as a  last resort for those who couldn't obtain it via the judicial system. He refuses contracts on those he feels are innocent of any wrong doing, and notifies the FBI of hits taken out on innocent people. It anguishes him that he cannot save all of them. I think the author was trying to show how far Ennis had sunk, how dehumanized he had become because of personal tragedy and loss. He isn't completely bad but had made very bad choices and is redeemed by an unexpected love.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: louisev on June 27, 2009, 01:08:03 am
Ok. I see your point. There are a few fanfic's I didn't like either. Like you I started reading them and just couldn't finish. I don't even remember which they where now. It's all a matter of personal taste. I think the author was trying to show how far Ennis had sunk, how completely dehumanized he had become because of personal tradgedy and loss, and how he is redeemed.

I could have bought the dehumanized hitman finally being redeemed by doing a good turn and getting on the right side of the law, but it isn't a straight-up crime drama.  It's a "love story" and a love story hero has to be on the right side of justice.  Being a romantic hero and getting away scot-free is not justice in my world.  And I think it was a poor choice in a romantic/love situation, and just because it provided pre-packaged high drama and action isn't adequate justification for the moral compromise necessary to accept the hero.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Monika on June 27, 2009, 01:15:26 am
I have no problems with Zero at the Bone, it´s one of my all time favorites.
I think it´s extremely well-written and I think she was brave to write that story. The whole thing with Ennis being a hitman, is very complex and in my mind it just goes to show that the author doesn´t shy away from difficult topics. And she also have the characters deal with it in the story, it´s not something that she ever lets them forget.  It´s always in the foreground of the story. Not ever after their reunion, is Jack able to forget. It´s very interesting and the hitman/victim relationship makes for a hell of an exciting backdrop to a pretty epic love story.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: retropian on June 27, 2009, 01:18:39 am
I could have bought the dehumanized hitman finally being redeemed by doing a good turn and getting on the right side of the law, but it isn't a straight-up crime drama.  It's a "love story" and a love story hero has to be on the right side of justice.  Being a romantic hero and getting away scot-free is not justice in my world.  And I think it was a poor choice in a romantic/love situation, and just because it provided pre-packaged high drama and action isn't adequate justification for the moral compromise necessary to accept the hero.

Ok. that's fine. It's just a fanfiction.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brokeback_Dev on June 27, 2009, 06:15:05 am
I read Zero and it's entertaining enough.  I think HI is a much better story, although I didnt like TCJ as much.  I didnt even finish reading it. 
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: retropian on June 27, 2009, 11:04:58 am
I read Zero and it's entertaining enough.  I think HI is a much better story, although I didnt like TCJ as much.  I didnt even finish reading it. 

What is HI and TCJ?
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: mariez on June 27, 2009, 11:14:14 am
What is HI and TCJ?

"Human Interest" and the sequel, "Two Crows Joy" - madlori's other fics:

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,1188.0.html (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,1188.0.html)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MaineWriter on June 27, 2009, 11:53:02 am
Re: Zero at the Bone...are you guys reading the original fanfic? It has been originalized and published as a book. It came out in April.

Here's a link to buy the ebook at All Romance eBooks. It is available in a variety of formats.

http://www.allromanceebooks.com/product-zeroatthebone-15783-153.html

You can also buy it in print at Amazon, and in a Kindle version, also at Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Zero-at-Bone-Jane-Seville/dp/1935192809/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1246117917&sr=8-1

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41MrwpdEGAL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on June 27, 2009, 03:52:14 pm
Thanks for the info Leslie! :)  I didn't know that the publication had already happened... I remember discussions in the past about the publication possibility, but didn't keep track of the further developments.
Congrats to Lori!

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: retropian on June 27, 2009, 06:56:50 pm
Re: Zero at the Bone...are you guys reading the original fanfic? It has been originalized and published as a book. It came out in April.

Here's a link to buy the ebook at All Romance eBooks. It is available in a variety of formats.

http://www.allromanceebooks.com/product-zeroatthebone-15783-153.html

You can also buy it in print at Amazon, and in a Kindle version, also at Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Zero-at-Bone-Jane-Seville/dp/1935192809/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1246117917&sr=8-1

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41MrwpdEGAL._SL500_AA240_.jpg)



Wow. Good for her! It must be wonderful to see ones work published! I'm glad she's been getting 5 star reviews at Amazon.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: retropian on June 27, 2009, 07:02:37 pm
"Human Interest" and the sequel, "Two Crows Joy" - madlori's other fics:

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,1188.0.html (http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,1188.0.html)

Ok. I think I started HI ages ago but didn't really get into it. It just didn't grab me at the time. I've enjoyed ZATB so much I think I will have to give HI and TCJ another go. Sometimes one just isn't in the right frame of mind to allow a piece of fiction to work it's particular magic. So I will make the attempt.

Ian
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on June 27, 2009, 09:48:45 pm
Wow. Good for her! It must be wonderful to see ones work published! I'm glad she's been getting 5 star reviews at Amazon.

I just ordered a copy a few hours ago. :)

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MadLori on July 01, 2009, 07:33:01 pm
Thanks for the link, Leslie!

The objection to the premise of Zero is an extremely fair criticism and one I obviously can't refute nor would I try.  It's just one of those things where the reader will either buy it or not, they'll come along or they won't.  Some things are just dealbreakers. 
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: retropian on July 02, 2009, 10:41:08 pm
Thanks for the link, Leslie!

The objection to the premise of Zero is an extremely fair criticism and one I obviously can't refute nor would I try.  It's just one of those things where the reader will either buy it or not, they'll come along or they won't.  Some things are just dealbreakers. 

Well I love the story! I'm going to embark on your other ones now!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: RouxB on July 03, 2009, 01:19:45 am
In my early fanfic reading days I was not much interested in AU!AU but once I opened my mind I jumped right in and it become one of my favorite genres. I didn't have any trouble accepting the premise of ZATB because, I think, I read it, and I read most stories, without judgement or preconceived ideas of how something "should" be.

I don't see ZATB as some kind of morality play so the fact that Ennis "gets away with murder" doesn't enter into my judgement of the premise. I guess many people do buy the romantic quality in Ennis which just shows to go ya that one man's ceiling is indeed another man's floor.

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: retropian on July 03, 2009, 01:56:05 am
In my early fanfic reading days I was not much interested in AU!AU but once I opened my mind I jumped right in and it become one of my favorite genres. I didn't have any trouble accepting the premise of ZATB because, I think, I read it, and I read most stories, without judgement or preconceived ideas of how something "should" be.

I don't see ZATB as some kind of morality play so the fact that Ennis "gets away with murder" doesn't enter into my judgement of the premise. I guess many people do buy the romantic quality in Ennis which just shows to go ya that one man's ceiling is indeed another man's floor.



I feel just the same. I wasn't interested in AU!AU either, but now I've quite enjoyed a number of them that were recommended to me. I hope I enjoy the other MadLori stories as much as I enjoyed this one.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MaineWriter on July 03, 2009, 06:22:58 am
Thanks for the link, Leslie!


My pleasure, Lori.

Quote
The objection to the premise of Zero is an extremely fair criticism and one I obviously can't refute nor would I try.  It's just one of those things where the reader will either buy it or not, they'll come along or they won't.  Some things are just dealbreakers.

Exactly. I don't like pimps and whores stories but lots of people love them. As someone said to me the other day, books are like opinions. That's why there are so many of them.

L
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MadLori on July 03, 2009, 12:53:58 pm
In my early fanfic reading days I was not much interested in AU!AU but once I opened my mind I jumped right in and it become one of my favorite genres. I didn't have any trouble accepting the premise of ZATB because, I think, I read it, and I read most stories, without judgement or preconceived ideas of how something "should" be.

I don't see ZATB as some kind of morality play so the fact that Ennis "gets away with murder" doesn't enter into my judgement of the premise. I guess many people do buy the romantic quality in Ennis which just shows to go ya that one man's ceiling is indeed another man's floor.


D's situation is somewhat analagous to the eleventybillion stories about vampires trying to atone for past misdeeds.  That's a huge thing.  Like Angel, for example.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Mikaela on July 03, 2009, 08:13:46 pm
Since Zero is getting some posts, I figured I would ask a question or two concerning the plot. I just re-read the book version (yay! for good stories getting published!) and I realized I didn't understand some points.

The first has to do with those guys who at one point kidnap Jack to "get to D". They seem prepared to let Jack go if they can get hold of D - at least they pretend to let Jack go - and I assume those folks were Josey's goons. But she wasn't out to just "get hold of" D - nor to blackmail him once more. She was out to make him kill Jack, and I don't see how that could be achieved by the whole kidnap scenario. Can anyone explain this?

Also I realized that the initial set-up of Josey blackmailing D was a little iffy IMO - she has half a year's worth of photos of him doing various "jobs". Granted those weren't murders of witnesses, but they nevertheless *were* premeditated murders for financial gain. Surely D would very likely have received the death penalty if she'd just handed him over with all that evidence against him? So really the whole witness-killing set-up wasn't really necessary?

And if Maria (the woman Jack saw killed) was about to testify against her hubby and the Dominguez clan, why wasn't she in protective custody too?



I think too much, I guess. My objections to the lack of logic in the bad guys' behaviour actually took away some of my enjoyment of Shades of Grey. Zero is much better, it has me wondering over some points, but never makes me roll my eyes.


And "Angel" totally used to be one of my favourite TV shows, FWIW!   8)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: retropian on July 03, 2009, 10:50:53 pm
Since Zero is getting some posts, I figured I would ask a question or two concerning the plot. I just re-read the book version (yay! for good stories getting published!) and I realized I didn't understand some points.

The first has to do with those guys who at one point kidnap Jack to "get to D". They seem prepared to let Jack go if they can get hold of D - at least they pretend to let Jack go - and I assume those folks were Josey's goons. But she wasn't out to just "get hold of" D - nor to blackmail him once more. She was out to make him kill Jack, and I don't see how that could be achieved by the whole kidnap scenario. Can anyone explain this?

Also I realized that the initial set-up of Josey blackmailing D was a little iffy IMO - she has half a year's worth of photos of him doing various "jobs". Granted those weren't murders of witnesses, but they nevertheless *were* premeditated murders for financial gain. Surely D would very likely have received the death penalty if she'd just handed him over with all that evidence against him? So really the whole witness-killing set-up wasn't really necessary?

And if Maria (the woman Jack saw killed) was about to testify against her hubby and the Dominguez clan, why wasn't she in protective custody too?



I think too much, I guess. My objections to the lack of logic in the bad guys' behaviour actually took away some of my enjoyment of Shades of Grey. Zero is much better, it has me wondering over some points, but never makes me roll my eyes.


And "Angel" totally used to be one of my favourite TV shows, FWIW!   8)

Good questions! I don't know the answers either. ;)

What were some of the questions you had about "Shades of Grey"? I really enjoyed that story too.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: RouxB on July 04, 2009, 02:36:56 am
Good questions! I don't know the answers either. ;)

What were some of the questions you had about "Shades of Grey"? I really enjoyed that story too.

Shades of Grey in my top 5 faves for sure. I think I'll go read it!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: MadLori on July 04, 2009, 02:56:23 am
Since Zero is getting some posts, I figured I would ask a question or two concerning the plot. I just re-read the book version (yay! for good stories getting published!) and I realized I didn't understand some points.

The first has to do with those guys who at one point kidnap Jack to "get to D". They seem prepared to let Jack go if they can get hold of D - at least they pretend to let Jack go - and I assume those folks were Josey's goons. But she wasn't out to just "get hold of" D - nor to blackmail him once more. She was out to make him kill Jack, and I don't see how that could be achieved by the whole kidnap scenario. Can anyone explain this?

Also I realized that the initial set-up of Josey blackmailing D was a little iffy IMO - she has half a year's worth of photos of him doing various "jobs". Granted those weren't murders of witnesses, but they nevertheless *were* premeditated murders for financial gain. Surely D would very likely have received the death penalty if she'd just handed him over with all that evidence against him? So really the whole witness-killing set-up wasn't really necessary?

And if Maria (the woman Jack saw killed) was about to testify against her hubby and the Dominguez clan, why wasn't she in protective custody too?



I think too much, I guess. My objections to the lack of logic in the bad guys' behaviour actually took away some of my enjoyment of Shades of Grey. Zero is much better, it has me wondering over some points, but never makes me roll my eyes.


And "Angel" totally used to be one of my favourite TV shows, FWIW!   8)

Hi Mikaela!  These are all good points.  I can't claim that absolutely everything in the story hangs together perfectly...it's a bit of a hazard of writing something serially.  In fact, I seriously considered deleting the entire "kidnap Jack" scenario from the story for just the reason you cite, but it's such a key moment in their interpersonal relationship that I decided to let it slide.

Josey's plan, by her own admission, changed a couple of times, by necessity and as a response to D and Jack's involvement.  You're right in that any of the other kills D performed could have gotten him the death penalty, but that wasn't enough for her.  What she wanted was for him to break his own personal code against killing the innocent and THEN to be executed for THAT.  That element of poetic justice was really what she was after.

When the initial plan went awry, when D refused to kill Jack, the plan had to change.  She tried to reacquire them at the gas station...at this point she probably just wanted both of them dead.  Remember that there still was a contract on Jack's life in which she was financially invested, so she would have wanted him dead as well.

Then they vanished for at least a week.  During this time she would have been able to regroup and formulate a new plan.  My imagining was that she staged the kidnap scheme to get D back under her control, then planned to reacquire Jack, either right then and there or a little way down the road.  Then she'd either force D to kill him or kill him herself and frame D for it.  Taht didn't fly thanks to Megan's interference and the boys disappeared again.  And so on.

It's not perfect, plotwise.  But the real point of the book is the relationship, and D's journey back to the human race, and if the reader can buy the plot enough to hang the relationship on it, it gets by.  I hope.

I'll tell you, writing the sequel is proving much easier because I can write it all in one shot and make these things more clear at the outset.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Monika on July 04, 2009, 04:28:37 am
It´s interesting to see how differently people read a story. I myself pay very little attention to the external events but am very particular about the internal ones. The character´s psycological responses must be believable and the Ennis/Jack interaction must be credible, for me to get into a story. Both Zero at the Bone and Midwest_girl´s story Shades of Grey are among my favorite stories because they really manage to be both.
I think your biggest strength as a writer, Lori, is that you have a firm grip on the psyche of your characters.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Mikaela on July 04, 2009, 04:40:43 am
Thank you for responding, Lori. I like your explanations, I'm glad you provided them.

It's not perfect, plotwise.  But the real point of the book is the relationship, and D's journey back to the human race, and if the reader can buy the plot enough to hang the relationship on it, it gets by.  I hope.

You hope correctly.  :) I do buy the plot (and as you know, everyone else does) more than enough to hang the relationship on it. And I love the relationship and the characters.

I never can stop pondering the realism of the outward plot when reading stories like this. If the plot gets to unbelievable or far-fetched, if there are too many coincidences and deus-ex-machina events, and especially if characters do too many illogical things to keep the plot moving, the story reaches a tipping point where I don't really buy any of it anymore, including the psychological inner workings of the main protagonists. In such cases I can still read the story and find it entertaining, but it won't be more than that.

Zero is *much* more than that. Be very assured of that. :)

I'm looking forward to the sequel!!!

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Mikaela on July 04, 2009, 04:53:20 am
What were some of the questions you had about "Shades of Grey"? I really enjoyed that story too.

I guess that belongs in another thread and would require a really long post. But it mainly had to do with the numerous reckless and irrational things Hinestroza and Madrigal do once Jack calls to give himself up. I could not believe a chief mob boss and his main henchman of many years would be so stupid and still remain in their "positions" year after year, couldn't believe the Feds or the mob competitors hadn't taken them out a long time ago. And since Madrigal is supposed to be the scary near-untouchable menace and Hinestroza is the big Guy who's been smarter than the feds (and Ennis) and is a weird surrogate father figure to Jack; - once the two bad guys come across as utter morons too much of the plot (past and present), and some of Ennis's and Jack's related motivations, fell flat. 

Mind you, Shades of Grey is still a wonderful, beautiful, high-quality fic - the prose and the description of the developing relationship between its Jack and Ennis are close to being unrivalled.

I absolutely love SoG - I guess I was expecting perfection all the way, and that was why I got so disappointed when the bad guys started behaving irrationally in order for the plot to reach its climax. Because really, my objections could have been removed with some relatively minor plot changes. I've always wondered who beta'd for Amy and whether they raised any of my objections.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: retropian on July 04, 2009, 09:11:56 pm
I guess that belongs in another thread and would require a really long post. But it mainly had to do with the numerous reckless and irrational things Hinestroza and Madrigal do once Jack calls to give himself up. I could not believe a chief mob boss and his main henchman of many years would be so stupid and still remain in their "positions" year after year, couldn't believe the Feds or the mob competitors hadn't taken them out a long time ago. And since Madrigal is supposed to be the scary near-untouchable menace and Hinestroza is the big Guy who's been smarter than the feds (and Ennis) and is a weird surrogate father figure to Jack; - once the two bad guys come across as utter morons too much of the plot (past and present), and some of Ennis's and Jack's related motivations, fell flat. 

Mind you, Shades of Grey is still a wonderful, beautiful, high-quality fic - the prose and the description of the developing relationship between its Jack and Ennis are close to being unrivalled.

I absolutely love SoG - I guess I was expecting perfection all the way, and that was why I got so disappointed when the bad guys started behaving irrationally in order for the plot to reach its climax. Because really, my objections could have been removed with some relatively minor plot changes. I've always wondered who beta'd for Amy and whether they raised any of my objections.

I see your points. And yeah, if we continue we should move this over to The SOG thread. But, I absolutely love SOG too, and since it is a fanfiction, whatever plot holes or other problems with the story may exist I can easily overlook them if the writer gets the emotional connection between J&E right. SOG does that very very well.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: retropian on July 04, 2009, 09:13:38 pm
Hi Mikaela!  These are all good points.  I can't claim that absolutely everything in the story hangs together perfectly...it's a bit of a hazard of writing something serially.  In fact, I seriously considered deleting the entire "kidnap Jack" scenario from the story for just the reason you cite, but it's such a key moment in their interpersonal relationship that I decided to let it slide.

Josey's plan, by her own admission, changed a couple of times, by necessity and as a response to D and Jack's involvement.  You're right in that any of the other kills D performed could have gotten him the death penalty, but that wasn't enough for her.  What she wanted was for him to break his own personal code against killing the innocent and THEN to be executed for THAT.  That element of poetic justice was really what she was after.

When the initial plan went awry, when D refused to kill Jack, the plan had to change.  She tried to reacquire them at the gas station...at this point she probably just wanted both of them dead.  Remember that there still was a contract on Jack's life in which she was financially invested, so she would have wanted him dead as well.

Then they vanished for at least a week.  During this time she would have been able to regroup and formulate a new plan.  My imagining was that she staged the kidnap scheme to get D back under her control, then planned to reacquire Jack, either right then and there or a little way down the road.  Then she'd either force D to kill him or kill him herself and frame D for it.  Taht didn't fly thanks to Megan's interference and the boys disappeared again.  And so on.

It's not perfect, plotwise.  But the real point of the book is the relationship, and D's journey back to the human race, and if the reader can buy the plot enough to hang the relationship on it, it gets by.  I hope.

I'll tell you, writing the sequel is proving much easier because I can write it all in one shot and make these things more clear at the outset.

Thanks for clearing these things up. I can hardly wait for the sequel.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: louisev on July 04, 2009, 09:52:49 pm
If you want some comments or sections of your posts moved or copied to the Shades of Grey thread I can take care of that for you.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: retropian on July 17, 2009, 10:32:53 pm
If Zero where a movie who could you see staring in it? For some reason I can visualize Brad Pitt as D. I know their characters are in their mid-thirties and Brad is older than that, but he's in good shape and looks much younger than his age. He's a natural blond too, so that's a plus, and he'd pull off a crew cut well. As  far as acting goes, I think he's be up to the demands for D. I remember he was looking for a gay role when BBM was in the theaters. he was impressed by the film and it's box office success and who wouldn't like to see B.P. in a bedroom scene with another man? As far as the Jack character goes, no it can't be Jake, but I can't think of anyone right now. Gerard Butler?  Just to toss a name out. Or what about that UK actor James Pruefoy (Sp?) he was Marc Anthony is the HBO series Rome.
Who could you imagine playing D and Jack?
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Mikaela on July 18, 2009, 05:09:10 am
It's very difficult to not envisage Heath and Jake as the leads.

But if I had to come up with someone...

Daniel Craig as D andJoseph Gordon-Levitt as Jack

Problem is they're too far apart in RL, age-wise. Perhaps a good make-up dept. could make them "meet in the middle".
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Monika on July 18, 2009, 01:04:33 pm
I think Joaquin Phoenix could do a fine job as Jack. As E I´d cast Gary Oldman.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: retropian on July 21, 2009, 04:25:37 am
I think Joaquin Phoenix could do a fine job as Jack. As E I´d cast Gary Oldman.

Hmmm, Joaquin p, might work, but Gary Oldman is, while a grreat actor, Old man.


It's very difficult to not envisage Heath and Jake as the leads.

But if I had to come up with someone...

Daniel Craig as D andJoseph Gordon-Levitt as Jack

Problem is they're too far apart in RL, age-wise. Perhaps a good make-up dept. could make them "meet in the middle".

Daniel C. is great, he can do that whole intense and repressed thing really well. I love J.G-L, but he's too young for me. I know he's in his twenties now, but to me, he still look like he's about 17.

I think I like Daniel Craig and Gerard Butler together. LOL, fantasy matchup! Or how about a reunion from "Fight Club"? Brad Pitt as D and Edward Norton as Jack?
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: ifyoucantfixit on October 05, 2009, 12:51:19 am


   i think that Gerard Butler would make a perfect D.  As for Doc, I think that the "mastor' vampire would be great for that part.
I think he would be perfect for that part.  The guy that looks younger than his real age,  Rob Pattinson!!  Just my idea.
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Brown Eyes on November 13, 2009, 08:52:17 pm

I just finished reading the published version of Zero last night!  :D  All I can say is, SO GOOD!  :)  I'm sad to be done with the book!

Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Sason on November 14, 2009, 08:03:52 am
But she's writing on a sequel!!!

Yay!!!   ;D

And there are interludes on her website.  :D
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Monika on November 19, 2010, 01:40:46 pm
Woho, I had completely missed the third interlude (called Date Night) posted on her website.
That was a great read. What a treat this Friday night.

I love Dr. Jack and D
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Sason on November 19, 2010, 04:11:14 pm
Wow, one year only....

Sometimes you're real quick, Monika!!   :laugh: :laugh:    :-*
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: CellarDweller on November 19, 2010, 04:33:10 pm
I had heard of this story for a while, so when it was published, I purchased a copy.  I would read one chapter a night, sometimes two if I couldn't put the book down.

I really loved it!
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Sason on November 19, 2010, 04:36:19 pm
Yeah, it's a great story!

I think it's one of the most beloved stories in the fandom.
Although there's noting in the published version that gives away that it's originally written as BBM fanfic,
but we know it is!  :)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Monika on November 20, 2010, 06:25:59 am
Wow, one year only....

Sometimes you're real quick, Monika!!   :laugh: :laugh:    :-*

I know  :laugh: ::)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Monika on November 20, 2010, 06:27:48 am
Yeah, it's a great story!

I think it's one of the most beloved stories in the fandom.
Although there's noting in the published version that gives away that it's originally written as BBM fanfic,
but we know it is!  :)
for sure

Dr Jack and D are great characters. I´d love to read a sequel (no that I will hear about it until a year after it´s come out, but still   O0)
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Sason on November 20, 2010, 06:29:05 pm
for sure

Dr Jack and D are great characters. I´d love to read a sequel (no that I will hear about it until a year after it´s come out, but still   O0)

I'm sure the sequel will still be worth the reading after a year!  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: Monika on November 24, 2010, 01:22:02 am
I'm sure the sequel will still be worth the reading after a year!  ;) ;D
no doubt
Title: Re: Zero at the Bone by MadLori
Post by: CellarDweller on August 16, 2013, 09:14:30 am
Dr Jack and D are great characters. I´d love to read a sequel (no that I will hear about it until a year after it´s come out, but still   O0)

I'm not sure if a sequal is in the works or not.  I know it has been mentioned, but I haven't ever seen anything official posted.