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Title: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on August 18, 2014, 05:19:41 pm
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This is a thread to discuss the TV/comic series "The Walking Dead".

I'm sure the focus of this thread will be the TV series, as most of us don't read the comic series.

Discussion doesn't have to center around the current season, please feel free to discuss any season, from episode one to the last one aired.

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Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on August 18, 2014, 05:26:11 pm
Chuck, those are very solid clues. He got very close to Carol, and although I didn't think they would be a very plausible couple, it seemed possible, but it never happened. Same with Beth in that episode on the farm, as far as we know. And although it's always jut seemed like his abusive dad and brother were assholes, the very fact that that part of his background has been repeated a couple of times suggests there may be more to the story.

On Vulture, somebody commented something about how straight women across America would all be upset. My response was, why, did we all want to hook up with him? Daryl is cute and has always been my favorite character but, gay or not, I would have zero chance with a fictional character.


Well, you know how some fangirls and fanboys can be.  LOL  They become very connected to the characterization in their heads, so changes from that can cause......anger.  :laugh:

I'd like to think that some gay people survived the zombie apocalypse!  LOL
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: milomorris on August 19, 2014, 08:56:45 am
I'd like to think that some gay people survived the zombie apocalypse!  LOL

Which begs the question of whether there are any gay zombies.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on August 19, 2014, 11:06:03 am
Which begs the question of whether there are any gay zombies.

Undoubtedly gay people become zombies, but you wouldn't be able to tell a gay zombie from a straight zombie because neither one is sexually attracted to anyone. They'll readily eat people of either gender.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on August 19, 2014, 07:20:20 pm
Which begs the question of whether there are any gay zombies.


(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-g2vzM0aV754/T7GIRzp5jJI/AAAAAAAAAr8/48P7pby7Go0/s1600/gay-zombies-motivational-poster.jpg)


I've tried to explain to people who don't watch the show that sometimes the zombies become secondary to what's going on, but they don't buy it.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on August 19, 2014, 10:16:23 pm
By the way, Chuck, I'm particularly glad you started this thread because I have always watched The Walking Dead with my son. It's pretty much the only reason I've watched it, for sure at least at the beginning -- because he watched it and I wanted to spend time with him, watching TV.

Now he's going off to college. Of course my first thought was, what about The Walking Dead? (Ha ha -- not quite my first thought but I have actually thought it.) Will I continue to watch a show I don't quite actually love, but watch primarily because of my son, who's no longer in the picture? Might it possibly even make me sad to watch it with him not around? Or will I continue to watch it alone, because at this point I'm invested enough in the characters to stick with it?

The answer to the last is yes, I think, especially if we're discussing it here. It will give me a sense of purpose to go on watching The Walking Dead knowing I can come here and comment (warning, sometimes snarkily!) about the most recent episode.

But I'll say it now, as I've said a number of times before: If Daryl goes, I'm probably out, myself. However, I think so many fans think this way that the writers would be crazy to let anything happen to Daryl.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on August 20, 2014, 12:12:19 am
The writers have said that 'anyone' is fair game in this show, but I doubt that.

I can't see Rick getting killed any time soon, or his son Carl.  I also believe both Daryl and Michonne are safe.

Anyone else is up for grabs.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on August 20, 2014, 05:30:31 pm
Now he's going off to college. Of course my first thought was, what about The Walking Dead? (Ha ha -- not quite my first thought but I have actually thought it.) Will I continue to watch a show I don't quite actually love, but watch primarily because of my son, who's no longer in the picture? Might it possibly even make me sad to watch it with him not around? Or will I continue to watch it alone, because at this point I'm invested enough in the characters to stick with it?

The answer to the last is yes, I think, especially if we're discussing it here. It will give me a sense of purpose to go on watching The Walking Dead knowing I can come here and comment (warning, sometimes snarkily!) about the most recent episode.

But I'll say it now, as I've said a number of times before: If Daryl goes, I'm probably out, myself. However, I think so many fans think this way that the writers would be crazy to let anything happen to Daryl.

Looking forward to your discussions on the show, whether we agree or not.....and snark is fine by me.  LOL

Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on August 21, 2014, 12:10:53 am
See you on Oct. 12!  :D
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on August 21, 2014, 12:56:55 pm
See you on Oct. 12!  :D

;)  ;D
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on August 21, 2014, 07:11:44 pm
Film maker Bruce LaBruce has made two films featuring gay zombies:  L.A. Zombie (2010) and Otto; or up with Dead People (2008)


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L.A Zombie stars French porn star Francois Sagat

Canadian bad boy Bruce LaBruce is back with a hyper-sexual analysis of contemporary gay culture with L.A. Zombie, featuring Francois Sagat, Rocco Giovanni, Wolf Hudson, Eddie Diaz, and Andrew James.  The film follows an alien zombie creature as he emerges from the sea and attempts to make sense of his new home, Los Angeles.  After getting picked up by a surfer in a truck, a severe accident occurs that results in the surfer lying dead in the middle of the road.  The alien zombie has sex with the dead man and brings him back to life.  Wandering away from the accident, he finds himself among L.A.'s homeless population where it becomes increasingly unclear whether he really is an alien zombie or a schizophrenic suffering from delusions.  Like a kind of dark savior, the alien zombie proceeds to find various dead men in the greater Los Angeles area and bring them back to life.  Part porn; part horror; part art film; part critique of superficiality in the gay world; all Bruce LaBruce!

http://www.warhol.org/responsive/event.aspx?id=6279
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on August 21, 2014, 07:15:18 pm
Otto; or Up With Dead People.

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Once more straddling the line between art and smut, the underground and the indie scene, his latest, “Otto; Or, Up With Dead People,” unfolds in and around the radical gay zombie culture of Berlin. Having developed a modicum of reason, the living dead are wearily accepted in society at large, despite the growing “plague” of homosexual undead, whose twin tastes for cannibalism and sodomy lend Mr. LaBruce a characteristically irreverent means of riffing on AIDS and the fear of gay recruitment.

Enter Otto (Jey Crisfar), a melancholy young zombie who shuffles about in a lovesick stupor. He is enlisted by a pretentious avant-garde filmmaker named Medea (Katharina Klewinghaus) to participate in her magnum opus, a “dissertation on the undead” involving revolutionary Marxism and gay orgies.

One of the more disciplined entries in the LaBruce oeuvre, “Otto” is sexy and silly in just the right proportions, a cult item with a real heart — albeit one that tends to get torn from the rib cage and munched on by naked men conversant in the philosophy of Herbert Marcuse.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/07/movies/07otto.html?partner=Rotten%2520Tomatoes&ei=5083
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: southendmd on August 21, 2014, 07:36:54 pm
No risk of art here.  Just "Gay Zombie" by Michael Simon, from 2007.

Trailer:  


Taglines: "A sexually confused zombie meets a boy and eats another."
"Love means never having to say you're dead."

Story:  
A sexually confused zombie goes on an adventure through West Hollywood where he makes friends and meets a special someone named Todd. His new buddies help him come to terms and try to assimilate him into normal life. Everything is peachy until his flesh eating appetite rears it's ugly head. Will Miles be able to control himself? Will his bloody ways be too much for a boy to bear? Find out during this hilarious ride of undead love. --IMDb


(http://www.gayzombie.net/dvd_files/Gay%20Zombie%20DVD%20070509v2.png)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on August 21, 2014, 07:51:09 pm
Oh God...sounds just as bad as those 'zom rom coms' that have been released.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: milomorris on August 21, 2014, 11:16:42 pm
Oh God...sounds just as bad as those 'zom rom coms' that have been released.

Yup.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on August 22, 2014, 03:18:30 am
Oh God...sounds just as bad as those 'zom rom coms' that have been released.

Well, I loved Warm Bodies.  Even as a zombie, Nicholas Hoult looked hot.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: southendmd on August 22, 2014, 09:04:03 am
Well, I loved Warm Bodies.  Even as a zombie, Nicholas Hoult looked hot.

Agreed!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on August 22, 2014, 10:26:11 am
Those zombies look way more ... functional than the ones on The Walking Dead. The zombies on TWD pretty much just stagger around silently, either clumsily pawing at the living or getting their heads smashed like pumpkins by our protagonists. They don't have facial expressions. They're so slow and out of it that it's not really that hard to escape them unless they catch you by surprise and corner you en masse.

Also, they don't look just kind of unhealthy or bloody, they are in far later stages of postmortem decay.

I suppose that's part of why the show can be so relentlessly violent. When a human kills a zombie it's gross -- it's gross to see a head smashed to gory pieces with a hard whack from, say, a garden rake. But the zombies are so dehumanized that it's not particularly disturbing; in fact it barely seems like violence.

The real violence is when the zombies kill a human or a human kills a human.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on August 22, 2014, 10:22:55 pm
Well, I loved Warm Bodies.  Even as a zombie, Nicholas Hoult looked hot.

Agreed!


I'm not disagreeing with you regarding Nicholas Hoult's looks, and I don't deny the talent of anyone involved in those films.

I just don't enjoy those types of films.  The whole point of a zombie is that when the brain is 're-activated', it only comes back enough to give it the instincts to walk/move and eat.   Memory, emotions, empathy, and all the human aspects are gone.  I don't enjoy seeing monsters suddenly becoming romantic objects.

That's one of the issues I have with the Twilight series (and why I've not seen it).  I get that vampires have always had a sexuality to them, and also homoeroticism, however, they were still feared.....not like these 'sparkle' vampires.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on August 22, 2014, 10:35:46 pm
Those zombies look way more ... functional than the ones on The Walking Dead. The zombies on TWD pretty much just stagger around silently, either clumsily pawing at the living or getting their heads smashed like pumpkins by our protagonists. They don't have facial expressions. They're so slow and out of it that it's not really that hard to escape them unless they catch you by surprise and corner you en masse.

Also, they don't look just kind of unhealthy or bloody, they are in far later stages of postmortem decay.

I suppose that's part of why the show can be so relentlessly violent. When a human kills a zombie it's gross -- it's gross to see a head smashed to gory pieces with a hard whack from, say, a garden rake. But the zombies are so dehumanized that it's not particularly disturbing; in fact it barely seems like violence.

The real violence is when the zombies kill a human or a human kills a human.

I can't really comment on the movies, as I haven't seen them.  It depends on the stage of the apocalypse.

In these movies, it could be early stages, when the zombies would be 'fresher' for lack of a better term.

In The Walking Dead, I believe they're actually about 2 years into the apocalypse, so the zombies are very rotted.  You'll see a few 'fresher' ones as survivors fall victim to hordes of zombies.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on August 22, 2014, 11:58:09 pm

I'm not disagreeing with you regarding Nicholas Hoult's looks, and I don't deny the talent of anyone involved in those films.

I just don't enjoy those types of films.  The whole point of a zombie is that when the brain is 're-activated', it only comes back enough to give it the instincts to walk/move and eat.   Memory, emotions, empathy, and all the human aspects are gone.  I don't enjoy seeing monsters suddenly becoming romantic objects.

That's one of the issues I have with the Twilight series (and why I've not seen it).  I get that vampires have always had a sexuality to them, and also homoeroticism, however, they were still feared.....not like these 'sparkle' vampires.

The Twilight Sparkling "vampires" are an embarrassment to the whole Vampire legacy. I did like the vampires in Thirty Days of Night, what a visceral experience. I do have a problem with fast running zombies, which is why I skipped the film version of World War Z.  Especially since in the book version the zombies were lumbering in the classic style.

Have you seen the trailer for Zombeavers?

Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: milomorris on August 23, 2014, 08:04:06 am
I don't enjoy seeing monsters suddenly becoming romantic objects.

Yeah. It has a kinda Stockholm syndrome feel about it.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on August 23, 2014, 07:25:32 pm
The Twilight Sparkling "vampires" are an embarrassment to the whole Vampire legacy. I did like the vampires in Thirty Days of Night, what a visceral experience.

I agree.  I didn't see the whole film (30 Days) but I did see bits and pieces of it, I thought it was very well done.   The whole "sparkling" vampire thing was awful.  The closest I could come to liking something like that was Angel in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and how he was always in an inner battle with his true nature.

I do have a problem with fast running zombies, which is why I skipped the film version of World War Z.  Especially since in the book version the zombies were lumbering in the classic style.

I don't like the fast version either.  I would assume (as if zombies were real ::) ) that rigor mortis would restrict their movements.  Seeing zombies run and jump did nothing for me.  I remember seeing the remake of Dawn of The Dead.  Didn't like it.  It was more of an 'adventure' film than horror.  To me, anyway.

Have you seen the trailer for Zombeavers?


I think the last sentence in the trailer matches my feelings.  "I mean really?"  :laugh:

The funniest thing was the totally 'un-matching' captions.

"we're staying over there at my cousins place" became:  "for their my cunt beaver".   :laugh:
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on August 23, 2014, 07:27:30 pm
Yeah. It has a kinda Stockholm syndrome feel about it.

Yeah, there's something just not right about it.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on September 29, 2014, 12:17:36 pm
The Walking Dead’s Norman Reedus says his character is ‘prison gay’

25 September 2014 | By Andrew Potts

The Walking Dead actor Norman Reedus has gone on the record after months of speculation by fans that his character Daryl may be gay – and his answer is 'yes,' though he thinks Daryl has probably never acted on those feelings.

Reedus told GQ magazine that he thinks Daryl is in denial about his sexuality and probably a virgin and that's how he has played the character since season two of the show.

Reedus said the idea to take the character in that direction had come from Walking Dead show creator and original showrunner Frank Darabont.

http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/walking-dead%E2%80%99s-norman-reedus-says-his-character-%E2%80%98prison-gay%E2%80%99250914
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on September 29, 2014, 06:03:32 pm
The Walking Dead’s Norman Reedus says his character is ‘prison gay’

25 September 2014 | By Andrew Potts

The Walking Dead actor Norman Reedus has gone on the record after months of speculation by fans that his character Daryl may be gay – and his answer is 'yes,' though he thinks Daryl has probably never acted on those feelings.

Reedus told GQ magazine that he thinks Daryl is in denial about his sexuality and probably a virgin and that's how he has played the character since season two of the show.

Reedus said the idea to take the character in that direction had come from Walking Dead show creator and original showrunner Frank Darabont.

http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/walking-dead%E2%80%99s-norman-reedus-says-his-character-%E2%80%98prison-gay%E2%80%99250914

Great, now I have to watch seasons two to four again just to see if Daryl checks out guys.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on September 29, 2014, 06:06:57 pm
Great, now I have to watch seasons two to four again just to see if Daryl checks out guys.

:laugh:  I don't recall him doing that, but I may have missed it.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: milomorris on September 29, 2014, 06:24:15 pm
The Walking Dead’s Norman Reedus says his character is ‘prison gay’

25 September 2014 | By Andrew Potts

The Walking Dead actor Norman Reedus has gone on the record after months of speculation by fans that his character Daryl may be gay – and his answer is 'yes,' though he thinks Daryl has probably never acted on those feelings.

Reedus told GQ magazine that he thinks Daryl is in denial about his sexuality and probably a virgin and that's how he has played the character since season two of the show.

Reedus said the idea to take the character in that direction had come from Walking Dead show creator and original showrunner Frank Darabont.

http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/walking-dead%E2%80%99s-norman-reedus-says-his-character-%E2%80%98prison-gay%E2%80%99250914

Interesting article, but Mr. Darabont has an odd take on what "prison gay" means.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on September 29, 2014, 11:19:17 pm
Interesting article, but Mr. Darabont has an odd take on what "prison gay" means.

True, to me "Prison Gay" means you fuck guys only if women aren't available.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on September 30, 2014, 08:02:03 am
Interesting article, but Mr. Darabont has an odd take on what "prison gay" means.

True, to me "Prison Gay" means you fuck guys only if women aren't available.

Yeah, I had the same impression that you both did, so that wouldn't make Daryl "prison gay".

I suspect that he doesn't know what the term means, and once this story spreads across the web, he'll get a few replies/emails to let him know.

:laugh:
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 04, 2014, 12:36:10 am
With no firsthand knowledge of being either gay or in prison, I had the same reaction you guys did. What they describe for Daryl sounds to me more like "closeted gay" or "in denial gay."

But fast or slow, I like the direction the "Walking Dead" is going with this.

It helps explain, too, why there was never anything physical, apparently, between Daryl and either Carol or whatshername.



Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 12, 2014, 04:35:36 pm

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140727160611/walkingdead/images/c/c0/Season_5_cast_banner.jpg)

The new season starts tonight!

;D
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 12, 2014, 09:11:55 pm
Its' Walking Dead time!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 12, 2014, 10:21:36 pm
Whoa, Season 5 opener was great.

First of all, I loved seeing "Badass Carol" doing what she did.  The character development for her just continues to get better.

Because I'm not sure who has and hasn't watched yet, I'm using the color tags to hide the rest.  Use the mouse to highlight the text and see the post.


 I was happy to see Rick getting tougher, yet being reined in by Glenn.  I get that one must be tough in this situation, but there was no reason to have to go back.  I'm glad that Glenn stopped them. 

It was also good to see Carol, Tyrese and Judith meeting up with the rest of the team.   And speaking of Tyrese, he got tough!  It was soooo good to see him do what he had to do, and not be defended by someone.

Glad to see there were no major character deaths for the opener, rumor is that one main character will be killed.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 13, 2014, 10:04:11 am
It just better not be Daryl!  :laugh:

Agreed on all counts, Chuck. Aside from a conveniently nick-of-time save -- the gunfire, etc., happening just as they were turning to Glen -- I thought it was a good, dramatic start.

And totally agree about Carol. I used to be pretty "meh" about her, but her character arc is fascinating.

Now what, I wonder?

Do you ever watch Talking Dead? I watched a few minutes last night. Conan O'Brien was on, so of course it was funny. And I think the host, Chris Hardwicke, does a pretty good job -- he's like a funny Ryan Seacrest with an actual personality.



Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 13, 2014, 11:53:26 am
Agreed on all counts, Chuck. Aside from a conveniently nick-of-time save -- the gunfire, etc., happening just as they were turning to Glen -- I thought it was a good, dramatic start.

And totally agree about Carol. I used to be pretty "meh" about her, but her character arc is fascinating.

Now what, I wonder?

Do you ever watch Talking Dead? I watched a few minutes last night. Conan O'Brien was on, so of course it was funny. And I think the host, Chris Hardwicke, does a pretty good job -- he's like a funny Ryan Seacrest with an actual personality.


I generally don't watch "Talking Dead" but I did last night.  I agree about Chris Hardwicke.

One thing I did miss last night during the flashbacks was that the crazy guy they let out of the rail car was actually one of the group of people that originally attacked Terminus.  It wasn't until after that I saw pics online that I got it. 

Good to have most of the group together again, but I am wondering about Beth and who has her.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 14, 2014, 09:02:21 pm
Good to have most of the group together again, but I am wondering about Beth and who has her.

Good question, though I'll admit I tend to forget about Beth.

Wherever she is, I imagine it will be a good storyline eventually, though.

Today I saw a teaser for an article on some website with a picture of a blonde actress and the headline "How [whatever her name is] stays beautiful during a zombie apocalypse." I realized the picture was of Beth. I didn't click on the story, but I will say that Beth looked much better in the picture than she does on the show. Not that she isn't pretty, but what with all the sweat and blood and dirt and greasy hair nobody looks very beautiful during a zombie apocalypse. Even Daryl barely makes the bar.

However, I notice everyone seems to have a pretty endless supply of ruggedly fashionable clothing.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 15, 2014, 12:15:12 am
That they do, don't they?

I saw there was a meme on the internet that was guessing wrong about Beth's location.  It was hinting that she had been taken to Terminus, and that she had been eaten by the people there.

Here's the meme.



(http://www.horrorfanz.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/beth-mary1.jpg)


Since they discussed that Beth was still alive, we know that's not correct.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 15, 2014, 08:03:11 pm
Wait, I must have missed that part. Who discussed Beth, and how do they know she's alive? Wasn't Daryl the last one to see her, and he doesn't know.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on October 15, 2014, 09:19:32 pm
Wait, I must have missed that part. Who discussed Beth, and how do they know she's alive? Wasn't Daryl the last one to see her, and he doesn't know.




He was the last one to see her so he really doesn't know if she is still alive or not.  I'm convinced she is still alive though, otherwise it just wouldn't make sense storywise.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 15, 2014, 09:26:17 pm
He was the last one to see her so he really doesn't know if she is still alive or not.  I'm convinced she is still alive though, otherwise it just wouldn't make sense storywise.

Exactly. The only way they can make someone being dead interesting is if it's something like what happened with Carol's daughter a couple of seasons ago. But now they've done that.

If they wanted to surprise us, they'd have Beth appear as the now-evil ruler of Terminus.

Instead, she'll probably eventually show up but be as ho-hum and forgettable as ever.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on October 15, 2014, 10:20:39 pm
Exactly. The only way they can make someone being dead interesting is if it's something like what happened with Carol's daughter a couple of seasons ago. But now they've done that.

If they wanted to surprise us, they'd have Beth appear as the now-evil ruler of Terminus.

Instead, she'll probably eventually show up but be as ho-hum and forgettable as ever.




LOL! I gather you are  not a fan of Beth.  I wasn't either but she kind of redeemed herself in the last couple of episodes.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 15, 2014, 10:43:02 pm
Wait, I must have missed that part. Who discussed Beth, and how do they know she's alive? Wasn't Daryl the last one to see her, and he doesn't know.

He was the last one to see her so he really doesn't know if she is still alive or not.  I'm convinced she is still alive though, otherwise it just wouldn't make sense storywise.

Oh, sorry!!

I meant that Beth was discussed on The Talking Dead, so we know she's still alive for the moment.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 15, 2014, 10:45:45 pm
Instead, she'll probably eventually show up but be as ho-hum and forgettable as ever.

LOL! I gather you are  not a fan of Beth.  I wasn't either but she kind of redeemed herself in the last couple of episodes.

I'm wondering if perhaps she's with the next "Governor".  I won't go into details, but there's a big villain in the comic series that hasn't arrived yet in the tv series.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on October 15, 2014, 11:52:42 pm
I'm wondering if perhaps she's with the next "Governor".  I won't go into details, but there's a big villain in the comic series that hasn't arrived yet in the tv series.

I hope the new villain is played by Kevin Durand.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 16, 2014, 12:05:45 am
I'm wondering if perhaps she's with the next "Governor".  I won't go into details, but there's a big villain in the comic series that hasn't arrived yet in the tv series.

Good! The previous Governor was one of my favorite characters. And agreed, it would be a good plot twist to have Beth show up in the news guy's company.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 16, 2014, 10:41:01 am
Found this online this morning, and gave me a chuckle.


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Shane or Rick?  Who will hear "you are NOT the father?"
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 16, 2014, 10:59:39 am
(http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/37600000/In-Carol-We-Trust-the-walking-dead-37673200-806-600.jpg)


I do wonder if anyone ever suspected that Carol would become such a badass, and one of the favorite characters out there now.

Thinking back to season one, she was the 'mousey' abused wife, who seemed to be helpless.  After the deaths of her husband and daughter, she has really become one of the strongest characters on the show, to the point on 'Talking Dead' they asked whether or not she should be leading the group instead of Rick.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 16, 2014, 11:09:57 am
'The Walking Dead' Season 5 Characters Ranked From Most to Least Expendable

http://news.moviefone.com/2014/10/01/the-walking-dead-expendable-characters/
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 16, 2014, 09:27:52 pm
'The Walking Dead' Season 5 Characters Ranked From Most to Least Expendable

http://news.moviefone.com/2014/10/01/the-walking-dead-expendable-characters/

I agree with the list, more or less, though I wish they'd quit bringing in the comic book version for comparison. Here are my other observations:

-- If they kill Daryl, I will stop watching the show. That's all there is to it. I think there are enough people who feel like me that they just won't. It would be like if "Happy Days" killed off the Fonz.

-- They also had better not kill Michonne, nor Carol or nor frankly even Maggie.

-- Nor should they kill Baby Judith.

-- Killing Rick would probably be a bad idea since, annoying as he can be, he's still sort of the central character and ostensible moral center of the show.

-- Sidenote: a romantic pairing of Rick and Michonne would be awesome.

-- As for the others, they can take whoever they want. Carl first, please.




Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on October 17, 2014, 04:40:31 pm
I agree with the list, more or less, though I wish they'd quit bringing in the comic book version for comparison. Here are my other observations:

-- If they kill Daryl, I will stop watching the show. That's all there is to it. I think there are enough people who feel like me that they just won't. It would be like if "Happy Days" killed off the Fonz.

-- They also had better not kill Michonne, nor Carol or nor frankly even Maggie.

-- Nor should they kill Baby Judith.

-- Killing Rick would probably be a bad idea since, annoying as he can be, he's still sort of the central character and ostensible moral center of the show.

-- Sidenote: a romantic pairing of Rick and Michonne would be awesome.

-- As for the others, they can take whoever they want. Carl first, please




I disagree about baby Judith. They should kill her off, and soon.  She is just dangerous dead weight. They should also turn her, it would be cool to see a little Crawling Dead.

Carl comes with a demographic so I don't think they'll kill him off anytime soon.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 17, 2014, 08:13:24 pm
I disagree about baby Judith. They should kill her off, and soon.  She is just dangerous dead weight.

The character of Judith showed her value in this last episode -- she can easily be seized by bad guys who leverage her life as a threat. The baby actress performed well in the role, too.

Also, the fact that Judith bogs down the group provides a challenge they would otherwise be running low on, since they've at least twice proved capable of breaking out of captivitywhile destroying a large, well-organized established community. And it's not like the zombies seem particularly scary at this point. The living can almost always easily outrun them, and/or smear themselves with guts as a zombie shield.

Plus, TV shows generally hesitate to kill children, because audiences find it so horrific. Off the top of my head, I can't think of many examples of children dying violently on TV. Breaking Bad did once have a kid get killed, but the kid was a drug-dealer so I suppose that mitigated it for some people. So the will they or won't they question adds a tiny bit more suspense to the show.

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Carl comes with a demographic so I don't think they'll kill him off anytime soon.

Oh. I see what you're saying. Well, couldn't they find a slightly less annoying actor and character to fill that function? Seriously, Justin Beiber would be more tolerable.

However, I do want to point out one good thing about Rick. I don't love his character, but the actor who plays him is charming and funny, judging from his appearance on last season's Talking Dead. If only they'd let Rick the character show a sense of humor more often. I mean, ever.

The actor is also British, and as far as I can tell he does a pretty decent Georgia accent.



Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 17, 2014, 11:47:18 pm
I'm on the fence about Judith.  I think that Judith may represent the last of Rick's humanity, and if anything happens to her, he'll snap.

I know you mentioned about not liking the comparison of the comic to the series, but it's one thing that makes me wonder about Carol.  In the comic she's already dead, suicide by zombie.  Of course, comic Carol never evolved the way TV Carol has.

You are correct regarding the killing of children on TV, but I think TWD gets away with it because something had to have happened to all the kids on the show, they wouldn't have just disappeared.  We've seen a few shots (when they were on the highway) of blood-splattered baby seats in cars.

And, of course, we had Carol killing Lizzie last season.  I remember talking to a lot of people, and they were all shocked that it happened.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on October 18, 2014, 02:10:11 am
I'm on the fence about Judith.  I think that Judith may represent the last of Rick's humanity, and if anything happens to her, he'll snap.

I know you mentioned about not liking the comparison of the comic to the series, but it's one thing that makes me wonder about Carol.  In the comic she's already dead, suicide by zombie.  Of course, comic Carol never evolved the way TV Carol has.

You are correct regarding the killing of children on TV, but I think TWD gets away with it because something had to have happened to all the kids on the show, they wouldn't have just disappeared.  We've seen a few shots (when they were on the highway) of blood-splattered baby seats in cars.

And, of course, we had Carol killing Lizzie last season.  I remember talking to a lot of people, and they were all shocked that it happened.

"Look at the flowers, Lizzie, just look at the flowers."
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 18, 2014, 08:12:39 pm
"Look at the flowers, Lizzie, just look at the flowers."

This is gonna sound strange, but I didn't feel right for about two days after that episode.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 18, 2014, 11:10:04 pm
I thought I had written and posted a longish reply, but now I don't see it. Damn! I hate when that happens.

Anyway, Chuck, I think you make a good point about Judith's importance to Rick's character.

And yeah, I had forgotten about Lizzie, so they've already crossed the kid-killing line. And weren't there some kids among the sick people Carol killed in the prison? But Lizzie was crazy and the others were sick, so all potentially dangerous, whereas at this point Judith is flawless and completely innocent -- I think that would be a tougher line to cross.

The other thing I remember writing was that I think they're keeping Carol alive, as opposed to the comic, because they need more badass women on the show. Michonne obviously qualifies. But Maggie, who originally had potential, is too all about Glenn these days. And of course Laurie (was that her name? the one who got involved with the Governor?) who was tough but lacked good judgement, is no longer around.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 19, 2014, 07:31:18 pm
The other thing I remember writing was that I think they're keeping Carol alive, as opposed to the comic, because they need more badass women on the show. Michonne obviously qualifies. But Maggie, who originally had potential, is too all about Glenn these days. And of course Laurie (was that her name? the one who got involved with the Governor?) who was tough but lacked good judgement, is no longer around.

You're very right about Maggie.  She was really becoming a strong woman, but once she and Glenn were married, she became all about him.

The character who fell for the Governor was Andrea.

I think the writers may be stuck.  If you have a full cast of badasses, it will get boring, however, in a zombie apocalypse, you either become a badass, or become lunch.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 19, 2014, 07:42:43 pm
Already looking forward to this episode......now that everyone (except Beth) is together again, will they all find out about each other?  Carl's near rape?  Carol killing Lizzie?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 19, 2014, 10:18:14 pm
Ok, Father Gabriel has shown up.  I don't know much about this person, as I don't read the comic series.  The way he's being played, I really don't trust him.

I don't get the whole Carol out in the woods thing at night.  Hello? ? ?  Most dangerous time.  I love that she's become a badass, but I don't want to see her become reckless.

I had an idea we wouldn't see the last of the terminus crew, but I didn't expect that.  Ugh!

OH, and I don't for a minute believe that Eugene character knows how to stop this zombie outbreak.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 20, 2014, 12:17:36 am
Gross.

Or, as Chris Hardwick put it in the TD teaser, "Well, that was vile."

OH, and I don't for a minute believe that Eugene character knows how to stop this zombie outbreak

I don't really trust him, either. But does he know anything at all? Why does the other guy trust him so much? Would he just get to Washington and say, "Sorry, guys, I was faking it"?


The character who fell for the Governor was Andrea.

That's right, thanks. I also heard Michonne mention her tonight.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 20, 2014, 05:52:45 pm
Gross.

Or, as Chris Hardwick put it in the TD teaser, "Well, that was vile."

lmao!  Yes, it was rather vile!  I hope those Terminus survivors are exterminated soon.

I don't really trust him, either. But does he know anything at all? Why does the other guy trust him so much? Would he just get to Washington and say, "Sorry, guys, I was faking it"?

I'm willing to bet he knows nothing.  I mean, look at him.  He's a putz with a mullet.  He comes up with a lie like this (if it is a lie) and he's got a group of people to protect him.  Not sure why he wants to go to DC.

That's right, thanks. I also heard Michonne mention her tonight.

You're welcome.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on October 20, 2014, 05:57:51 pm

OH, and I don't for a minute believe that Eugene character knows how to stop this zombie outbreak.

Maybe it's the mullet but Eugene is just not a believable character. It's actually embarrassing.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 20, 2014, 06:01:04 pm
Maybe it's the mullet but Eugene is just not a believable character. It's actually embarrassing.

:laugh:

Everyone mentions the mullet.   I don't like that character, and is it just me, or does everything he say sound like nonsense?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 20, 2014, 07:38:13 pm
:laugh:

Everyone mentions the mullet.   I don't like that character, and is it just me, or does everything he say sound like nonsense?

He don't say much, and he doesn't get his point across.  ;D

Maybe they're setting us up to doubt him so we'll be surprised if he actually does turn out to know something. You can never tell with those wily WD writers ...



Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 21, 2014, 11:05:32 am
He don't say much, and he doesn't get his point across.  ;D

Maybe they're setting us up to doubt him so we'll be surprised if he actually does turn out to know something. You can never tell with those wily WD writers ...


:laugh:

I'm resisting the urge to go online and find out just what plays out with him in the comic series.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 22, 2014, 10:25:17 am
I read in a recap that the nervous pastor we met this week has a big role in the comic. I wonder what that could be.



Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 22, 2014, 10:27:14 am
I also think the show needs Eugene as a character to give the group some sense of purpose. Otherwise, their wanderings could start to seem kind of pointless.

They're sort of like Dorothy and her friends -- off to see the Wizard, or in this case, off to see Washington DC.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 22, 2014, 10:59:54 am
I also think the show needs Eugene as a character to give the group some sense of purpose. Otherwise, their wanderings could start to seem kind of pointless.

They're sort of like Dorothy and her friends -- off to see the Wizard, or in this case, off to see Washington DC.

Governors and cannibals and zombies, oh my!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 22, 2014, 02:23:19 pm
Governors and cannibals and zombies, oh my!

 :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: Kelda on October 23, 2014, 04:56:48 pm
I reckon Bob was bitten by the underwater zombie and thats why he was crying.. (plus one of the couple needs to die they were too lovey dovey in the last episode) and now he'll have poisoned them all..
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 23, 2014, 06:27:23 pm
I reckon Bob was bitten by the underwater zombie and thats why he was crying.. (plus one of the couple needs to die they were too lovey dovey in the last episode) and now he'll have poisoned them all..

I hadn't thought of that!!!   Bob bitten by a zombie, and when the 'hunters' ate his flesh, they ingest the disease.  Interesting thought.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 26, 2014, 08:22:27 pm
New episode tonight, I believe it's called "Four Walls & a Roof".
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 26, 2014, 10:11:55 pm
Another good episode.  :)

Turned out Bob was bit, but whether or not his 'meat' was tainted was something we won't find out, given what Rick and the others did. 

Father Gabriel's secret is out, if he was truthful......he locked himself in the church and stayed in there, listening to his parishioners die outside in a zombie attack.

Daryl is back, not sure what's going on with Carol, that she was hidden at the very end.  I'm assuming that next week we find out about Beth.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 27, 2014, 09:31:26 am
Daryl is back, not sure what's going on with Carol, that she was hidden at the very end.  I'm assuming that next week we find out about Beth.

Good recap, except that I think the person hidden at the end was Beth. If it were Carol, she would have just walked out of the woods and said hi. Daryl wouldn't have to prompt her in that ominous way.

Plus, I hadn't realized this when I watched last week's episode but somewhere I read that when Carol went out to the car -- before Daryl showed up and then they spotted the vehicle that took Beth and went after it -- she was planning to go off on her own. So maybe she did.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 27, 2014, 05:31:01 pm
I guess we can only wait until next week.  Hope that Carol is still around.

I did find this picture online.....



(http://media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2014/10/the-walking-dead-gallery-109729.jpg)

I don't recognize what episode that's from, is it from when she was at Terminus?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 27, 2014, 07:36:00 pm
The recapper at Vulture assumed that Daryl was calling to Carol, who would come out with Beth, who would be in bad shape.

I don't know if one can assume Carol is there. But I missed a few key moments on last night's show because my DVR wasn't working the way I wanted it to, so maybe the recapper spotted something I missed.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 28, 2014, 03:51:47 pm
I watched it 'live', and there really wasn't anything to indicate it was Carol.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 28, 2014, 10:27:39 pm
Among other things, apparently hatchet-wielding Rick severed Gareth's fingers before chopping him to bits. Oh, and I missed Bob informing Gareth that because he'd been bit, the Terminites were eating "tainted meat."

Some pretty important parts, no pun intended.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 29, 2014, 08:52:22 am
Yeah, I saw both those scenes.   Rick was intense.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: Kelda on November 02, 2014, 08:28:26 am
Good epsiode. I think the person(s) in the shadows are Carol and Beth - Carol helping Beth..
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 02, 2014, 05:31:37 pm
I hope so, Kelda.  We'll find out tonight, I guess.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 03, 2014, 06:48:09 pm
Ok, we didn't find out who Daryl was with.

We did get the story of where Beth was, and we did get to see her being a bit resourceful.  Nice to see her picking up the scissors in a second bid for freedom, and figuring out that the doctor had her kill the patient that was another doctor, so he would be needed.

Was glad when the creepy cop got his......death by zombie.  :)

Now, the twist of Carol being wheeled in......was she "save-napped" like they did to Beth (a term they coined on The Talking Dead), or did she let herself get "save-napped" in an effort to find Beth.   This means (to me) that Daryl is not far off.


it also brings me back to this pic.......

(http://media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2014/10/the-walking-dead-gallery-109729.jpg)

Could this be from the hospital?  Hmmmm........I wonder if Carol will be sacrificing herself to save Beth.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on November 04, 2014, 10:44:22 am
Now, the twist of Carol being wheeled in......was she "save-napped" like they did to Beth (a term they coined on The Talking Dead), or did she let herself get "save-napped" in an effort to find Beth.   This means (to me) that Daryl is not far off.

I didn't watch the whole TD this week, so I missed this discussion, and I came to this thread for the very purpose of discussing this possibility. I think Carol got herself save-napped on purpose, and that, yes, Daryl is lurking nearby. Otherwise, it would be too much of a coincidence, especially since Daryl and Carol had been following them.

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Could this be from the hospital?  Hmmmm........I wonder if Carol will be sacrificing herself to save Beth.

Nooooo!!! I hope not. Dramatically, I can see where the writers would think that would be a good twist. She was hinting that she was going to go off on her own anyway. This would let her go out a hero and save the writers from wondering whether to cut back to her now and then or have her meet back up with the group eventually or what.

But Carol has become perhaps my second favorite character, so I hope not. The writers would be trading short-term drama for long-term interest, because so many of the remaining characters are less interesting.

The other question is, when Daryl came back to the group and then beckoned someone hanging back in the woods to come on out, was that just the writers way of being suspenseful about who was back there, or is there something strange about the person back there that made them hesitate to just march out right behind Daryl? At the time, I assumed it was the latter. But I'm beginning to fear it's the former.

Judging from the previews, looks like next week's action is going to shift to the group en route to Washington, so we may not be getting these answers right away.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: Kelda on November 08, 2014, 06:08:05 pm
I've heard Carol is at least in TWD until at least episode 15 of this season (as she is noted in casting list for that episode or something), so unless they leave any return to the hospital I think not.

Also, I think she's the replacement for the comic Andrea. In the comic, Andrea is *the* top dog woman - the female equivalent of Rick, and was never killed by the Governor and Carol has been dead for some time so the characterisation tables have turned it seems..
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 09, 2014, 12:21:51 am
I've heard Carol is at least in TWD until at least episode 15 of this season (as she is noted in casting list for that episode or something), so unless they leave any return to the hospital I think not.

Also, I think she's the replacement for the comic Andrea. In the comic, Andrea is *the* top dog woman - the female equivalent of Rick, and was never killed by the Governor and Carol has been dead for some time so the characterisation tables have turned it seems..

I hope you're right!  I would love to have Carol around, she seems to be the most interesting character on the show for me.  Tie for second between Daryl and Michonne.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on November 09, 2014, 11:09:48 am
I've heard Carol is at least in TWD until at least episode 15 of this season (as she is noted in casting list for that episode or something), so unless they leave any return to the hospital I think not.

Oh, good! That sounds like a pretty reliable clue.

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Also, I think she's the replacement for the comic Andrea. In the comic, Andrea is *the* top dog woman - the female equivalent of Rick, and was never killed by the Governor and Carol has been dead for some time so the characterisation tables have turned it seems..

Interesting!

I hope you're right!  I would love to have Carol around, she seems to be the most interesting character on the show for me.  Tie for second between Daryl and Michonne.

I would say the same. I like Daryl better, but frankly until he comes out, or does something besides the usual, he's not that interesting as a personality. Same with Michonne -- likeable, but kind of flat in terms of character (except in flashback, when we saw a completely different version of Michonne pre-apocalypse). Carol has changed more over the course of the show, from meek abused wife to the group's biggest badass at the moment.

Rick is somewhere just below them because at least he has some internal conflicts. The preacher I'll give the benefit of the doubt to because he just showed up. And then there's everybody else.

Beth would probably have been at the bottom of the list. But it was nice to see her toughen up last week.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 09, 2014, 08:38:25 pm
Same with Michonne -- likeable, but kind of flat in terms of character (except in flashback, when we saw a completely different version of Michonne pre-apocalypse).

Yes, I am hoping that as she gets closer to the group, she opens up a bit more.  I liked seeing her open up to Carl when they were out and about in a few of the episodes.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 09, 2014, 11:07:37 pm
Ok, so Eugene was a liar, leading them all on a wild goose chase.   I knew that something was up, but I didn't expect that.

Abraham looks like he's close to snapping.  The fact that he was willing to try to put them through that massive horde was not good.

Looks like next week we have Carol and Daryl again....we'll find out how she got to the hospital.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on November 09, 2014, 11:41:52 pm
Worst episode ever!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 10, 2014, 09:01:30 am
I don't know if I would say it was the worst ever, but it certianly wasn't one of my favorites.

I will say, I never thought of killing zombies with a fire hose.  How much pressure do those things pack?

I watched a few minutes of Talking Dead afterwards.....Michael Cudlitz was on, soooo cute, and with the red hair....yum!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on November 10, 2014, 10:45:34 am
Ok, so Eugene was a liar, leading them all on a wild goose chase.   I knew that something was up, but I didn't expect that.

I wasn't surprised that he was lying, but I was surprised that they openly discussed the mullet!

But the other group members' claims that they would have befriended and protected him as a friend, even without the lie, were disingenuous. They've given all kinds of people the brushoff.

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Abraham looks like he's close to snapping.  The fact that he was willing to try to put them through that massive horde was not good.

Well just think, he had pretty much snapped already until just then Eugene came along and gave him a sense of purpose. Now that's gone.

It wasn't until I watched Talking Dead that I understood that Abraham's family members had been raped by his friends and neighbors. That would be pretty demoralizing!

I liked that his girlfriend finally showed at least something of a personality. Tara's turning into a more appealing character, too.

Worst episode ever!

Compared to those endless episodes of hanging around Hershell's farm chatting aimlessly?  :P

By the way, Gil, the whole time you've been contributing to this thread I've been impressed that you're a fan of TWD, considering your pretty highbrow taste in films.  :)

I watched a few minutes of Talking Dead afterwards.....Michael Cudlitz was on, soooo cute, and with the red hair....yum!

He was very serious and intense, though. Whereas Eugene turned out to be lighthearted and funny! Like Andrew Lincoln was last season. It's often surprising to see how different the actors on TD are from their characters on TWD.



Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on November 10, 2014, 04:56:20 pm
I wasn't surprised that he was lying, but I was surprised that they openly discussed the mullet!

But the other group members' claims that they would have befriended and protected him as a friend, even without the lie, were disingenuous. They've given all kinds of people the brushoff.

Well just think, he had pretty much snapped already until just then Eugene came along and gave him a sense of purpose. Now that's gone.

It wasn't until I watched Talking Dead that I understood that Abraham's family members had been raped by his friends and neighbors. That would be pretty demoralizing!

I liked that his girlfriend finally showed at least something of a personality. Tara's turning into a more appealing character, too.

Compared to those endless episodes of hanging around Hershell's farm chatting aimlessly?  :P

By the way, Gil, the whole time you've been contributing to this thread I've been impressed that you're a fan of TWD, considering your pretty highbrow taste in films.  :)

He was very serious and intense, though. Whereas Eugene turned out to be lighthearted and funny! Like Andrew Lincoln was last season. It's often surprising to see how different the actors on TD are from their characters on TWD.





I love TWD. It's my favourite show after American Horror Story.
As for my taste in film, is liking foreign films considered highbrow?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on November 10, 2014, 07:48:40 pm
I love TWD. It's my favourite show after American Horror Story.

It's way further down on my list. But I'm hooked.

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As for my taste in film, is liking foreign films considered highbrow?

If it's not a superhero movie and not a rom-com and nothing explodes, it's highbrow in these parts.  ;D  :laugh:



Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 17, 2014, 03:22:28 pm
Ok, being a Carol fan, I really liked the Carol-based episode last night.

I enjoyed the flashbacks for Carol, from her time being told to leave up to her actions at terminus.  And now we know that she didn't allow herself to get 'save-napped', but was actually hurt.

The van scene freaked me out, and I hope that Carol and Daryl's bonding may help Carol and some of her behaviors.....like the fact that she was going to leave without saying anything.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on November 17, 2014, 10:57:36 pm
Ok, being a Carol fan, I really liked the Carol-based episode last night.

The recappers have taken to calling the two of them Caryl.  :laugh:

Since those two are my favorite characters, it was a fun episode for me. I don't think there are any two people on the show better equipped to spring Beth from the hospital.





Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: Kelda on November 22, 2014, 01:23:13 pm
 I do wonder now if the person in the shadows in the episode a few weeks back is now the 'Everybody Hates Chris' guy as Daryl is back to get reinforcements?

Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 22, 2014, 10:24:08 pm
I'm wondering about the death we're supposed to see this season.  Most people are leaning towards Beth, some toward Carol.

I'm wondering if perhaps they'll do something different......something along the lines like only one can survive, and the group (or maybe just one person, like Daryl, who is close to both) has to make a decision of which one to save.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on November 23, 2014, 12:39:23 am
I do wonder now if the person in the shadows in the episode a few weeks back is now the 'Everybody Hates Chris' guy as Daryl is back to get reinforcements?

Oooh, good theory, Kelda! That makes perfect sense, because I didn't think Daryl would have spoken quite so mysteriously if it had been ether Carol or Beth in the shadows.

I'm wondering about the death we're supposed to see this season.

Have you heard for sure there'll be one, or are you just assuming based on previous seasons?

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  Most people are leaning towards Beth, some toward Carol.

They do seem like they're setting Carol up to die -- she was about to leave on her own, anyway -- whereas they're building Beth up to be a more contributing member of the group.

That would be a mistake, I think -- killing off a character that we've come to respect and feel interest in, while keeping a character who has edged up sightly in interest but still is far from exciting.

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I'm wondering if perhaps they'll do something different......something along the lines like only one can survive, and the group (or maybe just one person, like Daryl, who is close to both) has to make a decision of which one to save.

Ooooh, that's another good theory, Chuck!


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 23, 2014, 04:26:42 pm
Not sure how reliable the "Inquisitor" is, but this was recently posted.


‘The Walking Dead’s’ Norman Reedus ‘Devastated’ By Mid-Season Finale

Should Walking Dead fans be worried? When it comes to the often brutal AMC zombie hit, the answer is always yes.   But a post on Walking Dead star Norman Reedus’s Facebook page may signal events far worse than what fans have come to already expect — especially considering the toll it took on the actor himself.

[Warning: Spoilers Ahead]



Reedus posted a snippet from the latest TV Guide describing shooting Walking Dead’s mid-season finale, which airs November 30.


“Reedus describes the hour’s final moments as so devastating that they unleashed an intense wave of feelings before the cameras rolled. ‘I sat on an apple box with my head between my legs and just balled for an hour,’ he says. ‘I really wanted not to tear up during [the scene] — I wanted to be like I wasted every tear in my body before we started shooting — so I just sat there and cried and cried and cried.'”


http://www.inquisitr.com/1629787/the-walking-deads-norman-reedus-devastated-by-mid-season-finale/
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on November 24, 2014, 10:13:36 am
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‘I sat on an apple box with my head between my legs and just balled for an hour,’ he says.

Ahem. I think the spelling they're looking for in this situation is "bawled."

But what can that mean? You'd think if it's some devastating plot turn he'd have been aware of it long enough not to be so suddenly overcome with emotion.

It's probably not Daryl dying, because actors don't usually confess to crying and crying over losing a part in a hit series (although many probably do).

So maybe it's Carol? If he's upset about Carol leaving, it would suggest that the two actors are as close in real life as their characters are. Maybe that's the case.

Perhaps the Inquisitor isn't the most reliable, but that would be a pretty odd quote for a publication to make up from scratch.

Curiouser and curiouser!

Meanwhile, I'm glad Maggie stepped up and became a little more badass last night. But I hope that's not a sign that they're shifting the balance of female badassery to Maggie (and Beth) from the doomed Carol.

And what's up with the pastor?


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 24, 2014, 06:26:22 pm
Yeah, I'm not liking the pastor at all.

As for the 'death' taking place next week, I guess we'll find out soon enough.  Fingers crossed that it's not Carol. 

Apparently, a lot of people feel the same, the net is starting to have these images spread around.


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Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 24, 2014, 06:27:10 pm
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Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 24, 2014, 06:28:52 pm
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Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on November 24, 2014, 11:22:40 pm
Those are great! Though I'm also sort of amazed by the idea of people buying/wearing T-shirts that comment on the fate of a TV character.

New get-rich-quick scheme: TV-shirts! They'd have messages connected with the plots of popular shows, as they unfold. You'd have a new batch every week.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 25, 2014, 06:14:04 pm
I know, right?

there are a few "If Daryl dies"  t-shirts out there too.

There's still a lot of debating going on, the majority seem to feel that it's Beth's time to go, possibly Tyrese as well.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on December 01, 2014, 10:38:39 pm
Well, the mid-season finale is over, and now we know that Beth was the one to die.

I gotta say, this episode left me cold.   I mean, they went through these episodes making Beth into a mini-badass, and then what does she do?  She jabs scissors into someone who is wearing bullet-proof vests and battle clothes.  I also don't get the whole thing with Carol this episode.  We see her unconscious in the bed....then she's in a wheelchair near the end, and then she's walking away from the hospital under her own power.

???

Well, I am happy that Carol lives to see another day.  Now they just need to get rid of that preacher.  Really?  brings a whole herd of walkers to the church?  damn.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on December 03, 2014, 09:19:02 pm
Well, the mid-season finale is over, and now we know that Beth was the one to die.

That seems about right. She'd been built into just a big enough character to matter -- if it had been, say, Tyrese's sister or Abraham's girlfriend it wouldn't have meant much (see? I can't even remember their names). She got to have her moments of heroism. But she's not such a big or popular character that her presence is severely missed.

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I gotta say, this episode left me cold.   I mean, they went through these episodes making Beth into a mini-badass, and then what does she do?  She jabs scissors into someone who is wearing bullet-proof vests and battle clothes. 

As one recap said, "everyone knows that when you stab someone with mini scissors you go for the jugular."

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I also don't get the whole thing with Carol this episode.  We see her unconscious in the bed....then she's in a wheelchair near the end, and then she's walking away from the hospital under her own power.

???

Right?? She seemed to have made an amazing physical recovery but now appears mentally catatonic -- she never spoke and barely registered a facial expression.

And poor Maggie -- to go from seemingly not giving a thought to her sister (in previous episodes, she hasn't mentioned Beth, has shown no signs of concern or grief) to overjoyed that she's been found alive to devastated that she's dead.

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Well, I am happy that Carol lives to see another day.  Now they just need to get rid of that preacher.  Really?  brings a whole herd of walkers to the church?  damn.

I know. He's gong to be a big liability. It's almost like he's trying to cause trouble. Time, perhaps, for Rick to activate the cattle vs. butcher approach he seemed to have learned from Gareth.

Note that Gareth attacked a guy named Bob. Then Rick killed a guy named Bob (that police officer he ran into and then shot). And apparently, according to the recap I read, they both said the same line to their respective Bobs.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on December 04, 2014, 06:11:26 pm
That seems about right. She'd been built into just a big enough character to matter -- if it had been, say, Tyrese's sister or Abraham's girlfriend it wouldn't have meant much (see? I can't even remember their names). She got to have her moments of heroism. But she's not such a big or popular character that her presence is severely missed.

Oh, what are their names?   Sasha and .........Rita comes to mind, but I'm not sure.  Tyrese is not going to last much longer with this 'pacifist' thing he's got going on either.

As one recap said, "everyone knows that when you stab someone with mini scissors you go for the jugular."

I know, right?  :laugh:

Right?? She seemed to have made an amazing physical recovery but now appears mentally catatonic -- she never spoke and barely registered a facial expression.

I'm wondering what's going to happen next for her?  She's basically 'faced death' after that accident, will she have a death wish now?  Think she's invulnerable? 

And poor Maggie -- to go from seemingly not giving a thought to her sister (in previous episodes, she hasn't mentioned Beth, has shown no signs of concern or grief) to overjoyed that she's been found alive to devastated that she's dead.

I know.....kudos to Lauren Cohan for a great performance!   I felt so awful when she saw Beth being carried out.

I know. He's gong to be a big liability. It's almost like he's trying to cause trouble. Time, perhaps, for Rick to activate the cattle vs. butcher approach he seemed to have learned from Gareth.

I thought it was pretty ironic the priest ended up outside the locked church, begging for his life, just like he had done to his parishioners.  Yeah, unless he wises up, he'll be nothing but a liability, the same for Eugene.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on December 04, 2014, 07:52:23 pm
They'll be the cattle ...  :o
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on December 05, 2014, 09:08:29 pm
that's one word for them.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on January 03, 2015, 05:22:49 pm
I've posted other places in the forum that I'm currently re-watching the series "Charmed". 

I'm near the end of season 5, and in the most recent episode Paige (Rose McGowan) is dating a new guy, Nate Parks, the owner of a piano bar.

I looked at Nate and thought;  "He looks like Daryl."   I looked for the credits and found "Norman Reedus" in the line-up.  Turns out he's in two episodes of "Charmed" as Paige's boyfriend, until she dumps him for being married with children.


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Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on January 03, 2015, 05:23:39 pm
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Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on January 04, 2015, 10:17:56 am
He doesn't look quite the same when he's not behind a crossbow.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: Penthesilea on January 05, 2015, 04:26:28 am
I watched two episodes of season two. :o

It's rated FSK18 here, which is an NC17 in the US. And rightfully so. I had my eyes closed at about 1/3rd of the time.
I don't want to see in all gory details how someone gets their head smashed in. Not even a zombie. Not any creature.

But I did like the story itself. I don't know if I give the series another try, but if so I'd start properly with season one, episode one. If it weren't for the explicitly shown violence I'd sure like this one.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on January 05, 2015, 04:07:57 pm
Oh Chrissi,

If the violence bothers you, then I can tell you as someone who has viewed all the seasons, stop watching now.

It's a very gritty series, and you'll not only see voilence from human to zombie, and from zombie to human.....later on it becomes very 'survival of the fittest' and there is a fair amount of violence with humans against humans.

It sorta begs the question, how much violence does it take for the humans to lose their humanity?  If you are bothered by this sort of stuff, the show is not for you.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on January 13, 2015, 10:27:00 am
The violence against zombies becomes so cartoonish that it doesn't bother me, though the filmmakers do go out of their way to make it gross.

The violence against humans usually doesn't bother me either. But then, I have a fairly strong tolerance for violence unless it's super gory or is the whole point of a plot (like, I would never see a movie like "Saw" or even supposedly higher quality ones like "Se7en").

There have been a couple of pretty shocking human killings on TWD, though. And I think the worst thing I've ever seen was this past half-season and it didn't even involve killing (Chuck, you may know what I'm referring to). Actually, this whole past half-season has been pretty gory.

One thing I realized years ago, when watching the movie 28 Days Later, (also a zombie movie and is actually quite good -- I would recommend it!) is that the source of tension and fear in zombie movies isn't the zombies. Unless they swarm you en masse or you have your leg stuck in a trap and can't run away or whatever, zombies aren't much of a threat -- they're slow and stupid and in this case, easy to kill. The tension and fear comes from the relationships between the survivors. That was true of 28 Days, and it's also true of TWD.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on January 13, 2015, 07:22:48 pm
The violence against humans usually doesn't bother me either. But then, I have a fairly strong tolerance for violence unless it's super gory or is the whole point of a plot (like, I would never see a movie like "Saw" or even supposedly higher quality ones like "Se7en").

Oh, I agree Katherine.  When the violence is the only reason for the violence, it's a major turn off.  That's why I refuse to watch the Hostel series. 

I also agree that the main tension is the very strained relationships between the people.  It almost seems to be a way to show "man's inhumanity to man".
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on January 27, 2015, 03:42:50 pm
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new season starts in Feb.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on January 29, 2015, 10:29:06 pm
I can't wait! Or no, I guess I actually can, because I'm currently watching a few shows I like better (Justified, Girls, The Americans -- I highly recommend all of those). But after watching TWD for lo these many years, Rick's group has somehow come to seem like old familiar friends whom I look forward to welcoming back into my living room.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on February 09, 2015, 09:50:17 am
Spoilers below


If you haven't watched the new episode yet, read no further!


What a great episode!!!  I had read online that the opener was going to hit people hard, and I had thought that perhaps before they got the chance to bury Beth, they'd be overtaken by a herd of walkers, and have to abandon Beth's body while they made their escape.

I never expected to see Tyrese be bitten, or to have him die.  Damn.

And the way they had other dead characters come back......Beth, Mika, Lizzie, and the others, damn.  Such a great episode.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on February 09, 2015, 11:09:41 am
I'm not reading the posts above this because -- get this -- I didn't realize The Walking Dead was season premiering last night. I watched Better Call Saul, which was on at 9 p.m. central on AMC, and Chris Hardwick kept doing commercials saying, "See you later on Talking Dead!" And I was like, huh? They do Talking Dead when the show itself isn't even on?

Then I realized I'd missed it. That's OK, because I also wanted to watch BCS and I don't like to watch much more than an hour of TV a night. So I'll save TWD for later in the week, then I'll come here and catch up!

OT, but Better Call Saul was very good. You don't have to have watched Breaking Bad, which it's a spinoff of, to enjoy it.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: Kelda on February 15, 2015, 06:35:30 am
Poor Tyreese :(
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on February 15, 2015, 10:12:58 am
I keep seeing this thread and I am trying really hard not to read it because I still haven't seen last week's episode.

There's just too much good TV on lately! There's a good show on almost every night.

If I have time tonight, I'm going to have a little TWD marathon and watch last week's and this week's, one after the other.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on February 15, 2015, 11:03:14 pm
Oh my God! What a great but utterly depressing episode! Who is this Aaron guy!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on February 16, 2015, 11:44:44 am
Well, it's not like it's all sunshine and roses in the zombie apocalypse.  LOL

I thought it was a great episode......got the characters tired, hungry, dehydrated, and sick of being on the run.

The one scene I didn't get was the zombie attack on the barn.  At one point they are all pressing against the doors, holding them shut from the zombies, and then the next, they're all asleep.  Did the wind just blow the zombies away so they could sleep?

As for who the Aaron guy is.....spoilers below, highlight to read them.


In the comic series, Aaron is a 'recruiter' for the "Alexandria Safe Zone"......a town that was able to wall itself in and keep the whole area zombie free.  In the comic he is gay and has a partner, so this would be the first out/gay character for the TV show.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on February 24, 2015, 07:51:08 pm
Saw half of the episode this week, I missed the first half getting home late from the Oscars.

I saw from when the car was crashing through the herd of zombies on, so yes, I saw the kiss!

(http://www.gaysocialites.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/the-walking-dead-first-gay-kiss-logo-550x413.jpg)

I'll have to watch on Friday to see what I've missed on Sunday.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on February 24, 2015, 07:56:22 pm
I missed the whole thing, dammit. I was so bored watching the oscars that I turned off the TV.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on February 24, 2015, 09:57:46 pm
You guys, I'm not reading any of the other comments -- I've just come on here to apologize for not participating more. This past Sunday was the Oscars, the week before that the SNL anniversary special -- those epic cultural landmark events are really messing with my Sunday evening TV watching.

I have them all recorded, though, and will be back here to catch up with the conversation soon.

 :)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on February 25, 2015, 09:36:07 am
I missed the whole thing, dammit. I was so bored watching the oscars that I turned off the TV.

Not sure about the schedule wher you live, but here they rerun the show on Fridays.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on March 02, 2015, 09:57:37 am
Well, last night's Walking Dead was a pretty interesting one. 

The gang is now safely in the "Alexandria Safe Zone" and trying to fit in.

What I found very interesting was Carol lying during her 'interview'...about being a housewife and missing her husband.....hiding what a badass she's become.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on March 02, 2015, 10:28:22 am
What I found very interesting was Carol lying during her 'interview'...about being a housewife and missing her husband.....hiding what a badass she's become.

Yes, that was a smart move! Though if the town turns out to be totally benign and idyllic and they all live happily ever after, she'll be stuck in that fake persona forever.

When she went out to the Junior League all gussied up in suburban-mom attire, I loved Daryl's "You look ridiculous!"

Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on March 02, 2015, 11:59:53 pm
Not sure about the schedule wher you live, but here they rerun the show on Fridays.

Actually they repeat the last two episodes just before the new one so I don't know why I was so upset. I'm not sure I like where this season is going with this Pleasantville scenario.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on March 03, 2015, 09:22:16 am
I'm sure it won't be as pleasant as they make it out to look.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on March 03, 2015, 10:47:49 am
Yet surely they wouldn't just repeat the old "community looks like a benign and idyllic haven but turns out to be sinister and dangerous" that they've already done at least twice (Woodbury and Terminus).

Maybe this time Rick will turn out to be the aggressor -- he's been hinting at that. Yet Rick is nominally the show's hero, so they can't have him turn out-and-out bad.

Mysterious!

Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on March 03, 2015, 04:03:23 pm
Yet surely they wouldn't just repeat the old "community looks like a benign and idyllic haven but turns out to be sinister and dangerous" that they've already done at least twice (Woodbury and Terminus).
Maybe this time Rick will turn out to be the aggressor -- he's been hinting at that. Yet Rick is nominally the show's hero, so they can't have him turn out-and-out bad.

Mysterious!



That's what I'm fearing, but you're right, there's no way they can go down that road a third time.

Take a tour of the Alexandria Safe Zone:

http://www.amctv.com/TWD360/alexandria-tour/
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on March 04, 2015, 09:40:49 am
The Alexandria Safe Zone won't be as safe as the survivors would like, if the show follows the comicbook storyline.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: Kelda on March 05, 2015, 05:01:43 pm
Yes, that was a smart move! Though if the town turns out to be totally benign and idyllic and they all live happily ever after, she'll be stuck in that fake persona forever.

When she went out to the Junior League all gussied up in suburban-mom attire, I loved Daryl's "You look ridiculous!"



Yeah I liked that too!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on March 08, 2015, 10:10:36 pm
How can there be only three episodes left? Loved tonight's though. I loved when Carol threathened that kid. And also, poor Buttons!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on March 08, 2015, 10:29:23 pm
they only do a few months at a time.  Remember, the first part of the season always airs around Halloween, and ends before new year, and then picks up in February, and airs until end of March.

Carol threatening the kid freaked me out, but if she was able to shoot Lizzie, why not threaten another kid?

And as soon as I saw Buttons I knew he/she was a goner.  LOL
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on March 09, 2015, 09:03:46 am
Yes, Buttons was sad. Couldn't they have saved him?

Carol seems to have the greatest range of anybody in the group for appearing to get right into the town's spirit while secretly behind the scenes being badass.

Also, what happened to the priest? Where is he at this point, and why not with our group? Did I miss something, or am I just confused?


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on March 09, 2015, 06:49:03 pm
This should be good! The Walking Dead: Los Angeles. What next, The Walking Dead: Detroit?

Walking Dead companion series gets two-season order from AMC

AMC today announced that it has placed an initial two-season order for a companion series to The Walking Dead, the #1 show on television among adults 18-49 for going on three seasons.

The new series (title to be announced) will be set in Los Angeles and focused on new characters and storylines. The show’s first season will consist of six one-hour episodes and premiere on AMC in late summer. The show’s second season will air in 2016.


http://blogs.amctv.com/the-walking-dead/2015/03/amc-announces-two-season-order-for-the-walking-dead-companion-series/
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: Kelda on March 13, 2015, 09:49:28 am
Looks like hes in the next episode!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: Kelda on March 16, 2015, 06:09:42 pm
Oooh! Good episode! But why do they keep on killing off the black guys!?!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on March 18, 2015, 08:27:53 am
damn, that episode was a good one.

Fr. Gabriel needs to end up zombie food.  First he turns his back on his flock, and now throws Rick and the team under the bus.

Carol and Sam were too funny, he is just determined to be her friend, but Carol is so far gone now.....I'm hoping Sam can bring some of her humanity back.  When she told Rick he was gonna have to kill Peter because of the abuse (which we don't have proof of yet), it shows how far she's gone.

Seems like all the ASZ people know how to do is cut & run at the first sign of trouble.  The group has to show them how to be strong.

Nicholas leaving Aiden impaled with the walkers closing in was too crazy.  Glenn tried, but damn.  And then Nicholas pushes the door too far, and Noah gets pulled away by walkers.....you know this is gonna affect Glenn.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on March 23, 2015, 08:51:32 am
This week's episode was good, but I think Rick is losing his marbles.  Very cool that Michonne had to knock him out.  From what I saw, I'd say Sasha is losing her marbles too.  Not good.

Next week is the last episode of the season, with a break and then it will return in October in time for Halloween.

Every once and a while I see an ad for Walking Dead that has a group of zombies breaking into a house.  I don't recall seeing that happen yet on the show, so I'm wondering if the season will end with an horde attacking the Alexandria Safe Zone.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on March 23, 2015, 10:33:21 am
Every once and a while I see an ad for Walking Dead that has a group of zombies breaking into a house.  I don't recall seeing that happen yet on the show, so I'm wondering if the season will end with an horde attacking the Alexandria Safe Zone.

That would be bad. But it wouldn't be entirely Rick's (or Sasha's) fault. That guy who was Deanna's son's friend is a weasel, as was the son.

Glen handled that guy perfectly, I thought.


Title: Recording reminder: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on March 28, 2015, 06:36:14 pm
Series finale is tomorrow night.  Apparently it's a 90 minute episode, so if you are recording it, make your you check your start and end times, so you get it all.

There are a ton of sites out there claiming to have spoilers, so if you don't want to know what's going to happen tomorrow, avoid anything that is related to TWD.
Title: Re: Recording reminder: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on March 28, 2015, 09:16:55 pm
I'm
Series finale is tomorrow night.  Apparently it's a 90 minute episode, so if you are recording it, make your you check your start and end times, so you get it all.

Already?? Wow.

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There are a ton of sites out there claiming to have spoilers, so if you don't want to know what's going to happen tomorrow, avoid anything that is related to TWD.

I'm expecting Rick to decide that he's going to be the butcher instead of the cow (not literally, hopefully).


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on March 30, 2015, 01:02:36 pm
Great season finale.

The scene with Aaron and Daryl in the car had me freaked out, I never expected to see Morgan there and helping.  Nice to have him in the show as a regular, let's see if he can keep his new "zen" personality.

Carol continues to be my favorite character, but I'm very glad that Rick didn't listen to her when she told him "Rick, now!" meaning to shoot the drunk.  Until he had killed someone, I don't think the ASZers would've understood any actions that Rick took.

Fr. Gabriel needs to go, although I hope his prayer session with Maggie not only helps him, but Sasha as well.  She's wigging out.

Glenn held his own this week, but I'm glad he didn't kill the Alexandrite.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on March 30, 2015, 04:12:56 pm
Glenn held his own this week, but I'm glad he didn't kill the Alexandrite.

For a minute there, I thought Glenn was a goner! Especially when in a Talking Dead commercial Chris Hardwick said he'd be talking to Carol and Daryl and a special, unnamed cast member -- usually that's a sign that an integral character is dead.

(In this case, if you didn't see it, it was Morgan -- who, like Rick and Maggie and who-knows-who else, turns out to be British).

Whew! I thought Glenn was boring at first, but I've come to like him over the years.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on March 31, 2015, 08:45:43 am
Yeah, Glenn is a strong character!  He's really become an important part of the team.

Funniest moment, when Carol called Rick "Sunshine".  :laugh:
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on April 01, 2015, 08:34:13 pm
Funniest moment, when Carol called Rick "Sunshine".  :laugh:

The bar for humor is not super high in TWD, but that was amusing. I love Carol. As the characters go, she is a close second to the obvious, Daryl.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on April 02, 2015, 08:36:45 am
The bar for humor is not super high in TWD, but that was amusing. I love Carol. As the characters go, she is a close second to the obvious, Daryl.

On The Talking Dead they had Norman Reedus (Daryl) and Melissa McBride (Carol) and the host mentioned that many people think Carol should be leading the group, and the audience burst into applause.

As for Daryl, apparently there was a website somewhere that listed Daryl as a character who was going to die next season, as an April Fool's joke, and people went nuts.

:laugh:
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on April 02, 2015, 09:00:12 am
On The Talking Dead they had Norman Reedus (Daryl) and Melissa McBride (Carol) and the host mentioned that many people think Carol should be leading the group, and the audience burst into applause.

I would have been applauding, too! Carol would make a much better leader than Rick. (Maybe their applause is a good sign for Hillary in 2016!)

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As for Daryl, apparently there was a website somewhere that listed Daryl as a character who was going to die next season, as an April Fool's joke, and people went nuts.

 :laugh:  Lucky I didn't see it!


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on April 02, 2015, 09:48:57 am
(Maybe their applause is a good sign for Hillary in 2016!)

From your lips to God's ears!!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: Kelda on April 02, 2015, 11:12:03 am
Carol continues to be my favorite character, but I'm very glad that Rick didn't listen to her when she told him "Rick, now!" meaning to shoot the drunk.  Until he had killed someone, I don't think the ASZers would've understood any actions that Rick took.


I thought she said Rick, NO!

I saw the Talking Dead for the first time on Monday. Its the first time they have aired it in the UK, so perhaps they'll start doing it as a regular thing from next year.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: Kelda on April 02, 2015, 11:16:51 am
On Rick - it definitely took a while for me to get used to his accent. Andrew Lincoln is really well known for stuff over here in the UK.

Been lead characters is a few very popular series' - This Life which was iconic in the 90's and also Teachers from the 00's. He was also in a series called Strike BAck - not so iconic/poular/mainstream but I really liked it. And of course, he was in Love Actually.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on July 12, 2015, 02:32:32 pm
The  trailer is up for The Walking Dead, season 6.  ;D

Set to come back to the small screen in October.


[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va1UPrFXHKA[/youtube]


will you be watching the companion series, "Fear The Walking Dead"?

Comment here:

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,53047.0.html
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on July 13, 2015, 11:32:49 am
The  trailer is up for The Walking Dead, season 6.  ;D

Set to come back to the small screen in October.

Looks scary!


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will you be watching the companion series, "Fear The Walking Dead"?

Comment here:

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,53047.0.html

Done!  :)

Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on July 13, 2015, 11:36:58 am
On Rick - it definitely took a while for me to get used to his accent. Andrew Lincoln is really well known for stuff over here in the UK.

Been lead characters is a few very popular series' - This Life which was iconic in the 90's and also Teachers from the 00's. He was also in a series called Strike BAck - not so iconic/poular/mainstream but I really liked it. And of course, he was in Love Actually.

I didn't remember him in Love Actually, and of course I haven't seen those series.

I may have already said this and I'm not bothering to scroll back to check, but although I'm not that crazy about Rick's character, I saw Andrew Lincoln on TWD and found him charming and really funny.

Kelda, had you seen Maggie before? When she was on TWD, she had a British accent too. Seems like there's someone else on the show who also does, but I can't think who ....  ???



Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on September 03, 2015, 08:32:51 am
New season starts in about a month!

 ;D

To whet the appetite, in a comedic way.   

http://www.twdfanatics.com/20-hilariously-accurate-the-walking-dead-e-cards/
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 09, 2015, 10:30:08 am
Just posting a reminder, the new season starts this Sunday.

 ;D
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 09, 2015, 11:24:53 am
Looking forward to it, kind of. However, I'm also watching The Leftovers, which is on Sunday nights, too, I think even in the same time slot. I'll have to figure out which one to save for Monday. So far TL is the better show, but TWD isn't really Monday-night fare.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 12, 2015, 10:00:38 pm

...... Well??

 :laugh:

I thought it was a pretty good episode, although I was confused throughout a lot of it about what was happening when.

Daryl has become Rick's moral compass.




Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 13, 2015, 08:46:26 am
actually, at different times, it seems as if three people are his compass,  Daryl, Morgan and Glen.

I thought it was a great episode, but I want to know who is honking the horn at the end.  Is it Fr. Gabriel for some reason?  That young girl  who has caught Carl's attention?  I'm suspecting she has connections to The Wolves.  Or, the son of the drunk man that Rick killed?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 13, 2015, 05:07:00 pm
actually, at different times, it seems as if three people are his compass,  Daryl, Morgan and Glen.

I thought it was a great episode, but I want to know who is honking the horn at the end.  Is it Fr. Gabriel for some reason?  That young girl  who has caught Carl's attention?  I'm suspecting she has connections to The Wolves.  Or, the son of the drunk man that Rick killed?

Vulture's recap suspected the son of the guy Rick killed.

You're right about Rick's moral compasses. And these days he needs at least three!


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 14, 2015, 08:25:12 am
lmao!

Yeah, sometimes he really seems like he's gonna go off the deep end.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 14, 2015, 09:20:59 am
Anc Carol is so undercover these days I barely recognized her when she was first onscreen!

Oh, the Vulture recapper also suspects that Maggie is pregnant because Glen made a special point of having her stay behind.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 14, 2015, 03:48:12 pm
I love undercover Carol, and the fact that she seemed to be a bit taken aback that Morgan is on to her.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 15, 2015, 10:24:08 pm
I love undercover Carol, and the fact that she seemed to be a bit taken aback that Morgan is on to her.

Oooh, good one -- somehow I missed that.

Do we trust Morgan?

Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: Kelda on October 27, 2015, 05:04:56 pm
Anc Carol is so undercover these days I barely recognized her when she was first onscreen!

Oh, the Vulture recapper also suspects that Maggie is pregnant because Glen made a special point of having her stay behind.




And now Glenn is dead *sob*
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 27, 2015, 05:32:59 pm
And now Glenn is dead *sob*

... Or is he? A number of factors suggest those are the other guy's entrails being ripped out, not Glenn's:

-- The other guy fell on top of Glenn.

-- Glenn looked horrified as this was happening, but not in agony. When I saw that, I thought it was a problem with his acting, but now I suspect it's actually very good walking-a-fine-line acting, suggesting he's horrified and terrified but not in physical pain, yet simultaneously leaving that unclear to viewers.

-- The walkers conveniently left Glenn's completely exposed head untouched, though it's often one of the first places they go for (remember recently when they ate someone's face).

-- On "Talking Dead," the mood was extremely mournful, with everyone more or less assuming Glenn was dead. However, the actor who played Glenn was not a guest, which is often the case after someone dies. And host Chris Hardwicke read a coy statement from the producers saying we hadn't totally seen the last of Glenn, in some form or another, whether part of him or in flashback or whatever -- leaving it open that he could return as a zombie, or partly injured, or seen in flashback, or be perfectly fine.

On the other hand ...

-- Even if he was alive when we last saw him, how would he ever get out of that predicament? Even Carol with her flamethrower or whatever it was wouldn't be able to get him out of this one.

-- And meanwhile, Rick being surrounded in the RV looked pretty screwed himself. Several people noted that they hadn't seen Rick look so despairing for quite a while.



Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on October 27, 2015, 07:45:18 pm
^^^Also, his death wasn't included in the "in memorium" segment of Talking Dead. Of course, his survival would be quite a stretch...
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 29, 2015, 12:19:08 pm
I have't seen the episode yet (I was away on Sunday) so I really can't comment on it.  I can say that Glenn does not die that way in the comic series.   I won't go into it more, to avoid spoilers, and to be honest, we've seen the comic and the show go in completely different directions.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: Kelda on October 29, 2015, 06:14:01 pm
Yeah, we now get talking dead too in the UK and I watched it but I don't see how he can get out of it.. unless it was Nicholas freaking out (you see Glen shouting at him to get him back 'with him') and it was all a 'dream' and they are still standing on that garbage bin.....
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on October 29, 2015, 09:50:49 pm
Yeah, we now get talking dead too in the UK and I watched it but I don't see how he can get out of it.. unless it was Nicholas freaking out (you see Glen shouting at him to get him back 'with him') and it was all a 'dream' and they are still standing on that garbage bin.....

Oooh ... that's an interesting theory. Of course, even if that's the case, Glenn is still not in a good situation.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on October 30, 2015, 11:16:50 am
I'll be checking out he episode when it repeats tonight.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 01, 2015, 10:33:34 pm
finally saw the episode....if Glenn has survived, I don't know how.

Tonight's episode seems to be a "Morgan" episode.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on November 02, 2015, 10:06:55 am
I liked the Morgan episode. It was a change of pace, none of the annoying characters were around, and Eastman was a great character with an interesting and sad story. It also helps explain why Morgan's a pacifist (or at least a non-murderer) and why he might be horrified by, say, Carol's nonchalant way of killing people left and right.

However, I think Eastman's way probably only worked for him because his cabin was so remote. If the Wolves attacked his place, his aikido skills wouldn't get him very far.



Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 02, 2015, 07:48:51 pm
The Morgan episode was good, and I agree with you, I don't think Eastman's Aikido would do much against the wolves.

I will say, I was surprised that Morgan had that Wolf hidden/locked away.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on November 02, 2015, 08:16:24 pm
One thing I thought about last night. They all know that if they smear themselves with zombie guts the walkers will ignore them. So whey don't they do that, especially when they're going out on dangerous missions and there are dead walkers handy? Like why didn't Glenn and whatsisname do that last week before they ventured into the town?


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 03, 2015, 09:20:25 am
I would assume that the stench in doing that would be rather strong, and while the core survivors may be used to it, Alexandrians might retch/puke, giving themselves away.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on November 04, 2015, 08:58:38 pm
One thing I thought about last night. They all know that if they smear themselves with zombie guts the walkers will ignore them. So whey don't they do that, especially when they're going out on dangerous missions and there are dead walkers handy? Like why didn't Glenn and whatsisname do that last week before they ventured into the town?




Very good point! That method was only used once, I think, by Carol. The writers have some splaining to do. What also works is walking around with a jaw-less, armless zombie on a leash.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 05, 2015, 10:31:48 am
Very good point! That method was only used once, I think, by Carol. The writers have some splaining to do. What also works is walking around with a jaw-less, armless zombie on a leash.

actually, it was 'tested' in the very first season.   Rick and Glenn covered themselves  in guts and almost made it to a truck before a sudden rainstorm hit, and  washed the rotting scent off them.  Then they had to run.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on November 05, 2015, 07:59:58 pm
actually, it was 'tested' in the very first season.   Rick and Glenn covered themselves  in guts and almost made it to a truck before a sudden rainstorm hit, and  washed the rotting scent off them.  Then they had to run.

You have a good memory! Thanks!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 06, 2015, 10:39:39 am
You have a good memory! Thanks!

Now if I could only put it to good use.  lmao!!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 09, 2015, 09:47:29 am
Well, it seems that some of the Alexandrians are waking up and smelling the coffee.

the woman who is now acting as doctor was able to save a life, Deanna's son (Spencer) stopped the looting of the food pantry, Jessie puts down a neighbor who  took her own life and came back and gives a speech about how it's different now, and even Deanna goes after a walker, but someone needs to tell her to go for the head.

 :laugh:

Maggie is pregnant, and still no sign of Glenn, I think he's alive somewhere.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on November 09, 2015, 07:19:51 pm
someone needs to tell her to go for the head.

That's for sure. I can see why she wouldn't know. But wasn't it Rick who walked up just then? Why didn't he say anything? She could have dispatched that one with her first stab if she'd aimed it properly.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on December 02, 2015, 12:50:25 am
mid-season finale has passed.

Well, we have the zombies swarming Alexandria, Deana dead,  Glenn alive but outside the walls, Daryl and friends confronted by Wolves, a group of survivors hoping to disguise themselves as walkers (that damned kid better keep his mouth shut!) and the fight between Carol and Morgan.

All in all, great mid-season ender.  I think the fight between Carol and Morgan was necessary.   Morgan needs to be reminded that no matter what he thinks, there are people who have no respect for life.  As for Carol, she was becoming invincible.  I think she needed Morgan to knock her out, to remind her she's still human, and not invincible.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on December 03, 2015, 10:53:05 am
I'm not sure, but I don't think those guys confronting Daryl & Co. are Wolves. They referred to their leader (Negan, was it?) so they may be some new menacing group entirely. Or did they have the telltale Ws on their foreheads?

I saw a recap that pointed out, correctly, that they should not have had the group smear themselves with walker guts to get through the horde. It's too clear a reminder to viewers that they could be using that technique much more often. They should do it whenever venturing into a walker-swarmed situation. For example, recently Glenn and that other guy could have done it before going into the town, saving all the fans those weeks of wondering about Glenn's fate.

Speaking of which, why do the walkers look so decayed on the outside, but their guts still look so fresh? Gross, I know, but still.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: Kelda on January 17, 2016, 06:24:14 pm
One thing I thought about last night. They all know that if they smear themselves with zombie guts the walkers will ignore them. So whey don't they do that, especially when they're going out on dangerous missions and there are dead walkers handy? Like why didn't Glenn and whatsisname do that last week before they ventured into the town?




In the Talking Dead (we now get that in the UK) they said its not something the survivors like to do often, only in emergency's because of the bugs and diseases the zombies carry.

Yeah Negen is in the comics - and is a totally different group than the Wolves  :o
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on January 21, 2016, 05:20:58 pm
Slightly OT, and I already posted this on FB so some of you may have already seen it, but these mini-impressions, by the guy who plays Aaron on TWD, are really amazing.

If you get as addicted as I did, there are more on his website. He even does people who you wouldn't think are that imitable, like Colin Farrell and Christian Bale and Justin Timberlake.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2016/01/20/watch_ross_marquand_s_terrific_nano_impressions_of_celebrities.html (http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2016/01/20/watch_ross_marquand_s_terrific_nano_impressions_of_celebrities.html)


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on January 21, 2016, 08:50:06 pm
very cool!  Thanks for the link!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on February 22, 2016, 10:13:45 am
My goodness, the new season has started, adn we need to resurrect this thread.


Last week, damn!  So much happened!  Jessie and her family were wiped out, Carl is shot in the eye, and the Alexandrites (?) finally stand up and fight alongside Rick.  Silly as it sounds, I loved the porch scene near the end, when all the walkers were destroyed, and everyone was sort of on the porch in shock.  That shot was a good mix of survivors from the beginning to current.  I saw Glenn and Carol, Eugene, Morgan, Aaron & Eric.

As for last night's episode, damn!  Rick and Michonne!  I have to be honest, I did not see that coming.  I did feel bad for having to watch Spencer put down zombie Deana.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on February 22, 2016, 10:53:27 pm
I didn't realize the season had started up again until after the show. So I just watched Ep1 last night. Quite a lot of action! I'm trying to avoid reading anything else here until I can get caught up, but I'll be back with you soon.

(Too much going on right now TV-wise! The new season of "Girls" started last night, "Better Call Saul" last week, and I'm trying to get through my binge of the first three seasons of "House of Cards" before the fourth season premiers in March! And then there's the Oscars next week ...)



Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on February 23, 2016, 10:43:35 am
I didn't realize the season had started up again until after the show. So I just watched Ep1 last night. Quite a lot of action! I'm trying to avoid reading anything else here until I can get caught up, but I'll be back with you soon.

Looking forward to your impressions!  :)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: Kelda on February 23, 2016, 06:09:57 pm
 I loved this weeks episode - a bit of the fun and laughs with Daryl/Rick/Jesus and Jesus looks like a real interesting character. And then RICHONNE!!!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on February 23, 2016, 07:57:37 pm
I loved this weeks episode - a bit of the fun and laughs with Daryl/Rick/Jesus and Jesus looks like a real interesting character. And then RICHONNE!!!!

I missed it!!   >:(
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on February 23, 2016, 09:38:31 pm
Gil!  You must go back and watch!!!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on March 06, 2016, 09:22:51 pm
Well, I thought Jesus was gonna lead our team right into the hands of Neegan.  I'm glad I was wrong.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on March 19, 2016, 11:55:01 pm
and as we get  closer to the finale, the rumors swirl around with who is the character that is going to die.

Rick and Carl are safe.....there is no way the show would kill off either character.

Michonne?  Whenever Rick has love, that love is taken.  Lori died in childbirth, Jesse and her two sons just died in the walker attack, and now Michonne is linked with him romantically.  That puts her as a target.

Glenn?  Glenn is the character that dies at the hands of Negan and his bat.  The show often follows the story line of the comics, but deviates from it just as frequently.  It's possible it's not his death.

Abraham, Aaron, Fr. Gabriel or Eugene?   Aaron hasn't been around long enough for fans to be affected by his death.  Fr. Gabriel and Eugene both have overcome cowardice in recent episodes, redeeming themselves from past failures.  It's not unusual for a character to be killed off after getting that redemption.  Abraham just broke it off with his girlfriend, in a sloppy way, and his death would be seen as karma by fans.

Daryl?  Daryl has not had as  much screen/story time as usual, and since his character is not in the comic at all, he has no "death" to match up to, and it's possible that writers will give him Glenn's death.

Carol?  At one point last year, one of the screen writers said that Carol was invincible because so many people loved her story line.  Now that her arc is complete, and her softer side is showing again, it's leading some to believe that Negan will kill Carol.

Andrew Lincoln said that the ending is very dark, and he was very upset by it.  The show has had women and children dying, but one thing it hasn't had is the murder of a pregnant woman.  This is a very dark ending, and leading many to suspect that Maggie will die at the hands of Negan.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: Kelda on March 22, 2016, 05:15:25 am
Sniff to the doctor's end this episode :(
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on March 22, 2016, 09:26:34 am
I want  to see what is gonna happen to Carol.  I'm hoping they sent her off so that she's safe from Negan.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on April 04, 2016, 12:24:39 pm
I finally caught up. Yikes!  :o :o :o

The recapper on Vulture thinks Glenn is the most likely. It won't be Daryl because, he said, "there would be real-life rioting in the streets." It won't be a relatively minor character like Aaron or Rosita. He doesn't think it's Michonne because Rick had his previous girlfriend die too recently. He had some reason for excluding Rick and Carl.

Other possibilities, IMO: Maggie, Abraham, Eugene.

It's possible Carol and Morgan could save the group. They've both wrestled morally with killing, and they'd have to do a lot of killing, so that might make for interesting internal conflict. However, Carol has already rescued the group once before (albeit singlehandedly), and you wouldn't think they'd repeat that pattern.

The show could live without any of those: Glenn, Maggie, Abraham, Eugene. I don't think it could go on without Rick. I think Carl needs to be there to represent the next generation. Michonne and Daryl are such cool characters, they'd be too big a loss. Until recently I'd have said the same about Carol, but I think you're right that it's possible her moral qualms signal an end to her character arc.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on April 04, 2016, 02:59:31 pm
Yeah, it was quite the episode, and I'm still not sure who got it.

I don't think the group is going to get 'resuced'....I think Neagan will let them go.  He specificially stated he was only going to kill one of them.  Morgan and Carol are going to be at the next "group" from the comics, a group called The Kingdom.

I keep thinking on how the cast keeps calling it a "dark" episode, and one of the darkest things that could be done is kill a pregnant woman.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on April 04, 2016, 04:39:49 pm
Yeah, it was quite the episode, and I'm still not sure who got it.

I don't think the group is going to get 'resuced'....I think Neagan will let them go.  He specificially stated he was only going to kill one of them.

Oh yeah, that's right. They'll have to stage a revolution at some point, I guess.

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I keep thinking on how the cast keeps calling it a "dark" episode, and one of the darkest things that could be done is kill a pregnant woman.

Yes, either a pregnant woman or a kid.

It was pretty dark for TWD, in any case: Carol getting shot/tortured, Neagan's gang closing in, and *somebody* getting gratuitously killed in that horrible way.

But if the cast made it sound like it was even darker than it seemed, I'd say it would be either Maggie, Carl or at the very least someone from the original group. It wouldn't be Abraham or Eugene or Rosita, for example.



Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on April 04, 2016, 06:38:36 pm
Let's review.


At the season finale, we had 11 survivors from our team kneeling in front of Neagan.  Rick, Michonne, Glenn, Daryl, Rosita, Carl, Maggie, Aaron, Eugene, Abraham, and Sasha.

Morgan and Carol are safe, because they're 'off-site' with the new group from the comic series, "The Kingdom".

Rick & Carl are safe, that is a given, leaving us 9 possible victims.  Rosita and Aaron haven't had enough time to become a fan favorite, so I don't think it's one them, bringing us down to 7. 

Michonne, Glenn, Daryl,  Maggie, Eugene, Abraham, and Sasha

They just killed off Rick's last love interest, so I think Michonne is safe.  For some reason,  I don't think Sasha is on the chopping block yet.  Which leaves 5.


Glenn, Daryl,  Maggie, Eugene, Abraham.   Eugene and Abraham have both become fan faves, however, Eugene was beaten up by the Saviors already, so I don't think that Neagan would want "sloppy seconds".  In the comics, Abraham dies by an  arrow through the eye, which the good doctor took in his place a few episodes ago, so it could be Abraham.

Glenn & Maggie have been here since the beginning.  Losing either would be a blow to fans, and with Maggie being pregnant, it would be a cruel, harsh death.  However, it is Glenn that faces this death in the comics.

This leaves Daryl.  A Daryl death would gut the show, and since he's not in the comic book, he could face this death.  The one thing that may save Daryl now is that  the network has so much merchandise with Daryl Dixon on it, to kill him off makes no sense.

I think it's one of the following three:  Abraham, Glenn or Maggie.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: oilgun on April 04, 2016, 10:38:49 pm
Let's review.


At the season finale, we had 11 survivors from our team kneeling in front of Neagan.  Rick, Michonne, Glenn, Daryl, Rosita, Carl, Maggie, Aaron, Eugene, Abraham, and Sasha.

Morgan and Carol are safe, because they're 'off-site' with the new group from the comic series, "The Kingdom".

Rick & Carl are safe, that is a given, leaving us 9 possible victims.  Rosita and Aaron haven't had enough time to become a fan favorite, so I don't think it's one them, bringing us down to 7.  

Michonne, Glenn, Daryl,  Maggie, Eugene, Abraham, and Sasha

They just killed off Rick's last love interest, so I think Michonne is safe.  For some reason,  I don't think Sasha is on the chopping block yet.  Which leaves 5.


Glenn, Daryl,  Maggie, Eugene, Abraham.   Eugene and Abraham have both become fan faves, however, Eugene was beaten up by the Saviors already, so I don't think that Neagan would want "sloppy seconds".  In the comics, Abraham dies by an  arrow through the eye, which the good doctor took in his place a few episodes ago, so it could be Abraham.

Glenn & Maggie have been here since the beginning.  Losing either would be a blow to fans, and with Maggie being pregnant, it would be a cruel, harsh death.  However, it is Glenn that faces this death in the comics.

This leaves Daryl.  A Daryl death would gut the show, and since he's not in the comic book, he could face this death.  The one thing that may save Daryl now is that  the network has so much merchandise with Daryl Dixon on it, to kill him off makes no sense.

I think it's one of the following three:  Abraham, Glenn or Maggie.

I thought you read the comics, so who gets hit by Lucille in the comics? I heard it was Glenn. In any event it was a rather disappointing episode. It could easily have been edited down to one hour. Not impressed.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on April 05, 2016, 10:28:09 am
It will not be Daryl. I guarantee that. As I'm sure I've said before, it would be like if "Happy Days" had killed off Fonzie. However, right after the show I tweeted that part of me hoped it was Daryl so I could quit watching.  ;D

Chuck, I agree with your analysis: Abraham, Glenn or Maggie. However, I'd tentatively eliminate Maggie because if she dies now, what was the point of having her experience pregnancy complications? (OK, I know, as an excuse to get them out of Alexandria, but still.) What was the point of even having her get pregnant in the first place? I think pregnant Maggie bravely soldiering on without Glenn next season would be a more poignant situation than the other way around.

I think Glenn is more likely than Abraham simply because his death carries more weight. The cast members said it was a very dark episode. Abraham hasn't been around long enough for his death to be super shocking and tragic. He's one of those in betweeners -- we know him well enough for his death to matter, but not enough to warrant a season-finale cliffhanger.

So my money's on Glenn. Frankly, I've never been the hugest Glenn fan anyway, so I could live with that.

I saw some recapper argue that they shouldn't have made it a cliffhanger -- that it would have been more powerful if we'd known who it was and had until the next season to mull over the tragedy. Whereas now we're all curious but by next fall, the revelation of the victim will be sort of anticlimactic.

I'm not sure I totally agree with that, but I don't totally disagree either.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on April 05, 2016, 11:05:35 am
I thought you read the comics, so who gets hit by Lucille in the comics? I heard it was Glenn. In any event it was a rather disappointing episode. It could easily have been edited down to one hour. Not impressed.

Hello Gil,

I don't read the comics, but I do very loosely follow the storyline online.  In the comics it is Glenn who gets the bat.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on November 03, 2016, 09:28:15 am
Well ...??? Hasn't anybody been watching?

Tell you what, I was on the verge of baling after the season opener. It was just too much. But with Halloween this week I thought, OK, I'll watch E2 on Monday night. Carol and Morgan's situation is much more palatable, and the guy with the dreadlocks seems like a potentially interesting character.

I don't think Negan is interesting. The Governor was interesting because he had contradictions and nuances. Negan is just relentlessly sadistic and brutal and cruel. That got old for me in the first hour. I suppose next week you'll find me watching E3. But then I'm going out of town for two weeks and am likely to miss the two following episodes. We'll see if I'm motivated to catch up when I return.

How about you guys? What are your thoughts?




Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 03, 2016, 10:20:40 am
LOL!

I forgot this thread was here!!

I'm not sure if we'll see Gil here or not.  On DCF he stated that the season opener was too rough for him, and it may have put him off the rest of the show.

I didn't think there would be two deaths, so when Negan let Glenn have it, I was shocked.

After that opening, the second week was much more relaxed, and focused on Morgan, Carol and the Kingdom.

I loved the fact that King Ezikel saw through Carol's "suzy homemaker" guise, and called her on it.

I also liked where Carol ended up.  She's needed some time alone for a while, and she can have it at this  house, meanwhile, she's near the Kingdom, and can have  them for help if she needs it.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on November 04, 2016, 10:33:48 am
LOL!

I forgot this thread was here!!

I'm not sure if we'll see Gil here or not.  On DCF he stated that the season opener was too rough for him, and it may have put him off the rest of the show.

I don't think he's alone in that. I've read other things saying TWD had gone too far. Maybe they figured after that long cliffhanger, they had to come up with something really big -- that if they just killed off Abraham, people would say, "Oh, OK, it was Abraham. That makes sense. Anyway, what else is on?"

For me, it wasn't that they also killed off Glenn. It's sad for Maggie, and because he'd been on the show since Day 1, but I've never been the hugest Glenn fan, so I can live with it. But it was those gross mounds of pulp that went over the top. And Negan demanding that Rick chop off Carl's arm was also a bit much.

But those flashbacks to Rick and Glenn from the first season -- can you believe how young they looked? I guess evading zombies for seven years gets to you.

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I loved the fact that King Ezikel saw through Carol's "suzy homemaker" guise, and called her on it.

Me too. Especially after all of those people in ... what's the name of the town? ... fell for it all along.

Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 11, 2016, 11:25:39 pm
Ah, the town of Alexandria. 

Gil did return to the thread, I'll nudge him about this one and see if he returns.  He did say that he really liked the Carol/Morgan episode, and the Daryl episode from last week.

This week the show is 90 minutes,  I hope it doesn't get too messy.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: Kelda on November 12, 2016, 06:47:42 pm
So who has the 'Easy Street' earworm in their head!?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 12, 2016, 09:02:56 pm
LOL   I found the song on YouTube!
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on November 13, 2016, 12:12:28 pm
Horrible torture! I was relieved when they switched to Roy Orbison's "Crying," even though it was sadly tied to Glenn's death.

The song I have been remembering is the Jam song that accompanied the opening montage about Dwight.

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Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 14, 2016, 06:50:29 pm
Negan is going to get his in a big way......I can't wait for it to happen.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: Kelda on November 25, 2016, 08:06:30 pm
wo do you reckon will be responsible for it though??
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on November 29, 2016, 03:23:33 pm
I'm not sure......Carl seems like he's plotting to get himself killed, hiding in Negan's truck that way.  At least Jesus is an adult, and can handle himself.

Carl is still subject to his emotional state.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: Front-Ranger on December 29, 2016, 10:55:59 am
In a series of maps, the New York Times says WD is most popular in the South!

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/26/upshot/duck-dynasty-vs-modern-family-television-maps.html (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/26/upshot/duck-dynasty-vs-modern-family-television-maps.html)
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on December 29, 2016, 11:36:01 am
I now have three Funko Pop figures in my cubicle,  for the walking dead.

My supervisor at work gave me Daryl Dixson.


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and I couldn't have Daryl alone, so I got Rosita & Carl.

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0552/1401/products/11067_WalkingDead_Rosita_GLAM_HiRes_1024x1024.jpg?v=1473190105)

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Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on December 29, 2016, 11:42:11 am
and then I ordered three more, to have my favorite characters.

Rick Grimes

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Michonne

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Carol


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Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on December 29, 2016, 11:47:24 am

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51Y5V8l48nL._SX300_.jpg)

and I couldn't have Daryl alone


Wow, that's very cool! And personally, I could have Daryl alone.  ;D

You guys, I stopped watching TWD after about the third episode. I can't say I've given up on it entirely, but I don't know whether I'm going to watch when it returns.

How did the season go, Chuck and Kelda? Gil, did you bail, too?
 
(I also bailed on The Affair and Rectify. I hate doing that on shows that start out good-- you kind of want to know what happens, but don't really have the patience to watch it unfold.)

In other TV news, AMC has been marathoning Breaking Bad. I've been watching here and there, and since I've seen every episode at least twice it's not hard to keep up, but it's a weird way to watch an entire series. You inevitably miss some of the episodes you'd have liked to see again, and are there for less crucial episodes. With Breaking Bad that's usually not a big problem, because almost all of the episodes feature something interesting or surprising or funny or dramatic.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on December 29, 2016, 02:44:08 pm
I watched the season the full way through.

Rosita found a gun and kept it hidden on herself.   Carl managed to sneak onto a truck belonging to the Saviors, and when they opened it, he mowed them down about three of them before they managed to subdue him.  Negan took this upon himself to send more of his people to Alexandria and take more stuff.

Spencer then talks with Negan, in an effort to get Negan to kill Rick, and put him in charge.  In response, Negan kills Spencer.  While going off, Rosita goes to shoot Negan, and instead hits his bat, Lucille, which throws Negan into a rage.  He wants to know how she got the bullet, she lies twice, and in return he has a Savior kill Gloria, the woman who watched the pantry.

Morgan and Carol are still in the Kingdom, Morgan with the general population, and Carol on the outskirts in her house.

Someone has slid Daryl the keys to his cell.  he escapes and makes his way back to Alexandria.

Rick & Aaron return from hunting and find Negan in mid rant, both Gloria and Spencer dead.  Negan informs him of what both Carl and Rosita did, and says more blood will be spilled if they don't turn over who made the bullet to him.  Eugene confesses and is kidnapped by Negan.

Maggie stands guard at the Hilltop gate. She sees something in the distance and smiles. Rick, Michonne, Carl, Rosita, and Tara enter the Hilltop and reunite with Maggie, Sasha, and Enid. Rick admits that Maggie was right all along — they have to get ready to fight. Daryl and Jesus come out to greet them.

Scenes for next season seem to show Alexandria, The Hilltop & The Kingdom all uniting against Negan and the Saviors.
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: serious crayons on December 30, 2016, 01:24:49 pm
I watched the season the full way through.

Rosita found a gun and kept it hidden on herself.   Carl managed to sneak onto a truck belonging to the Saviors, and when they opened it, he mowed them down about three of them before they managed to subdue him.  Negan took this upon himself to send more of his people to Alexandria and take more stuff.

Spencer then talks with Negan, in an effort to get Negan to kill Rick, and put him in charge.  In response, Negan kills Spencer.  While going off, Rosita goes to shoot Negan, and instead hits his bat, Lucille, which throws Negan into a rage.  He wants to know how she got the bullet, she lies twice, and in return he has a Savior kill Gloria, the woman who watched the pantry.

Morgan and Carol are still in the Kingdom, Morgan with the general population, and Carol on the outskirts in her house.

Someone has slid Daryl the keys to his cell.  he escapes and makes his way back to Alexandria.

Rick & Aaron return from hunting and find Negan in mid rant, both Gloria and Spencer dead.  Negan informs him of what both Carl and Rosita did, and says more blood will be spilled if they don't turn over who made the bullet to him.  Eugene confesses and is kidnapped by Negan.

Maggie stands guard at the Hilltop gate. She sees something in the distance and smiles. Rick, Michonne, Carl, Rosita, and Tara enter the Hilltop and reunite with Maggie, Sasha, and Enid. Rick admits that Maggie was right all along — they have to get ready to fight. Daryl and Jesus come out to greet them.

Thank you for that thorough update, Chuck!  :D  That's a great way to "watch" a season quickly!

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Scenes for next season seem to show Alexandria, The Hilltop & The Kingdom all uniting against Negan and the Saviors.

I've seen those, during the Breaking Badathon.


Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: Kelda on February 17, 2017, 04:21:40 pm
Did you watch the mid season opener?
Title: Re: The Walking Dead Thread!
Post by: CellarDweller on February 19, 2017, 12:47:23 am
Oh hell yes!  It's good to see our guys getting on the same track.  They really need to convince King Ezekial to join the fight.