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Brokeback Mountain: Our Community's Common Bond => Brokeback Mountain Open Forum => Topic started by: Artiste on March 20, 2007, 06:37:59 pm

Title: Some sheep were NOT sheep in the Brokeback Mountain film??
Post by: Artiste on March 20, 2007, 06:37:59 pm
Do you know if some sheep were NOT realsheep in the Brokeback Mountain film?

What do you think?

Sample(s) or proof(s) please.

Hugs!
Title: Re: Some sheep were NOT sheep in the Brokeback Mountain film??
Post by: j.U.d.E. on March 20, 2007, 07:10:21 pm
I have proof!

j. U. d. E.
Title: Re: Some sheep were NOT sheep in the Brokeback Mountain film??
Post by: Artiste on March 20, 2007, 09:30:10 pm
What is your proof j.U.d.E.?

May I ask?

Hugs!
Title: Re: Some sheep were NOT sheep in the Brokeback Mountain film??
Post by: BBM-Cat on March 21, 2007, 12:07:17 am
Along the same lines - how did Aguirre know that some of the sheep did not go up with Jack & Ennis? Did they appear thinner or less healthy? I always wondered about that.
Title: Re: Some sheep were NOT sheep in the Brokeback Mountain film??
Post by: Artiste on March 21, 2007, 12:33:58 am
Thanks BBM-Cat2006!!

The sheep were marked with colour (or branded??)! But I guess some were NOT, especially lost ones, and the babies??

Some sheep were NOT sheep, really!!

Hugs!
Title: Re: Some sheep were NOT sheep in the Brokeback Mountain film??
Post by: Fran on March 21, 2007, 12:56:25 am
Artiste,

I found this posted on Towleroad:

Do Cowboys Dream of Electric Sheep? (http://towleroad.typepad.com/towleroad/2006/02/do_cowboys_drea.html)

02/07/2006

Here's something I hadn't read before. You wouldn't necessarily think of Brokeback Mountain as an effects-heavy film. And its budget of $13 million certainly wouldn't have allowed for a lot of CGI. But you might be surprised to learn that of the 75 visual effects created for the film, 15 of them were for the sheep. Three-dimensional sheep replications, apparently require a tremendous amount of effort according to the UW Madison Daily Cardinal, but Ang Lee used them to help shape the character of the mountain itself.

"Lee’s control fix induced many challenges, including attempts to stage over 2,500 sheep in some scenes. The actual set of the film only used 700 sheep, partly because of Canada’s comedic concern for the spreading of American diseases to their sheep. Lee’s compulsive perfectionism even pressured Morin (the visual effects supervisor) to visit the Calgary set often so he could blend 3-D created shots seamlessly with cinematographer Rodrigo Prieto’s sensationally captured natural scenery."
Hats off to Morin on that one. The landscapes were pure fairy tale (so to speak), and I was especially dazzled by the amorphous, woolly herd that drifted over the side of the mountain, even if much of that wool was pure pixels.

I also found this detail fairly humorous:

"CGI allowed Lee to better direct elements like nature and animals, which fits his taste perfectly, as Lee claims he despises working with animals and says he would rather not work with sheep again."

They're so demanding. Each wants its own trailer and unlimited Pellegrino.


Title: Re: Some sheep were NOT sheep in the Brokeback Mountain film??
Post by: TOoP/Bruce on March 21, 2007, 07:03:02 am
Do you know if some sheep were NOT realsheep in the Brokeback Mountain film?

What do you think?

Sample(s) or proof(s) please.

Hugs!

Check out this link:  http://www.buzzimage.com/en/work/making_of/33 (http://www.buzzimage.com/en/work/making_of/33)  I think you will enjoy seeing how they did some of the special effects in BbM...
Title: Re: Some sheep were NOT sheep in the Brokeback Mountain film??
Post by: Fran on March 21, 2007, 10:18:16 am
Check out this link:  http://www.buzzimage.com/en/work/making_of/33 (http://www.buzzimage.com/en/work/making_of/33)  I think you will enjoy seeing how they did some of the special effects in BbM...

That was awesome.  Thanks for posting the link.  :)
Title: Re: Some sheep were NOT sheep in the Brokeback Mountain film??
Post by: Artiste on March 21, 2007, 10:46:40 am
Yes, you are right!

That is why I created this thread!

Some sheep are make-believe in many ways.

Some are just drawings created on a computor! Line drawings, and after the drawer adds hair, move that image in different ways... many sizes!

Yes, indeed worth while to see one co. which did this in Montreal, Canada!! Great!!

Any other cos??

Hugs to all!!
Title: Re: Some sheep were NOT sheep in the Brokeback Mountain film??
Post by: jpwagoneer1964 on March 21, 2007, 10:47:13 am
I believe it also shows some of the mountains were not real either.
Title: Re: Some sheep were NOT sheep in the Brokeback Mountain film??
Post by: Artiste on March 21, 2007, 10:55:18 am
Thanks jpwagoneer1964!

You are right, but, even if parts of a mountain were added, the mountains were all real
in the first place.

You can visit these mountains in Alberta, Canada.

However, I do not know if the added parts of a mountain is real??
As in: http://www.buzzimage.com/en/work/making_of/33

Do you know? Hope one can understand this? And find out?

Hugs!
Title: Re: Some sheep were NOT sheep in the Brokeback Mountain film??
Post by: jpwagoneer1964 on March 21, 2007, 11:21:42 am
That what I meant, they were real but just not where we saw them.
Title: Re: Some sheep were NOT sheep in the Brokeback Mountain film??
Post by: Artiste on March 21, 2007, 11:37:24 am
Thanks jpwagoneer1964!

It could be that some parts of those mountains were NOT real in the first place, and made as drawings becoming paintings, created like that by someone or many persons on the computor, like some false sheep, are??

That I want to find out.


I am an artist painter, and painting daily I know such mountains can be created in paintings! As realism or even as hyper-realism or as photo-realism!!

If any here can or you might find out??

Hugs!
Title: Re: Some sheep were NOT sheep in the Brokeback Mountain film??
Post by: TOoP/Bruce on March 21, 2007, 01:12:24 pm
Artiste,

I have no way of knowing whether the mountain matte shots in BbM are composited from photos, or digital matte paintings, but you might enjoy this book on the subject of movie matte painting:

http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Art-Legends-Movie-Painting/dp/081184515X (http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Art-Legends-Movie-Painting/dp/081184515X)

"The Invisible Art: The Legends of Movie Matte Painting" by Mark Cotta Vaz and Craig Barron (with a foreword by George Lucas)

It covers the history of matte painting in movies from the silent era, "The Wizard of Oz" and "Gone with the Wind", Disney and Hitchcock classics, to more recent films such as "Star Wars", to "Casino" and "The Truman Show."

I recommend it!
Title: Re: Some sheep were NOT sheep in the Brokeback Mountain film??
Post by: Artiste on March 21, 2007, 02:30:23 pm
Thanks bjblakeslee!

I will check the site you mentioned! http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Art-Legends-Movie-Painting/dp/081184515X

Very pleased with your search.

Will see it often, am sure!!

Hugs!

If you ever find out if added parts of mountains are not real but paintings or computor-made drawings with added colour, please let me know!! And any other such info!! Again, thanks!!
Title: Re: Some sheep were NOT sheep in the Brokeback Mountain film??
Post by: Artiste on March 21, 2007, 04:06:43 pm
Did the two main actors talked about the sheep?

Real ones only?

Fake ones?

Hugs to all!