Absolutly they could have succeeded! All Ennis had to do was say two letters.....O K!
Since I think that somehow those 3 expressions (joy, purpose & fullfillment) did not go that well (luckily to some degrees),
after they descended from Brokeback Mountain, I am asking you do you think that they could have succeeded better?? And how??
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Thanks loneleeb3 !Yes, even inthe shed. even the day after they made love. His first words to Jack were "This is a one shot thing we got here. I ain't no queer"
Wow, wow, your description is revealing!!
So Ennis was homophobic even then in the shed??
Even if Ennis had many times wonderful times with Jack, even sex, before that scene??
So this was a social difficulty with Ennis, you think?
Hugs!
Thanks loneleeb3 !
You say this:
I don't know that he was ever truly parolled.
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You lost me there... as I do not know this word: parolled.
Please explain that... and more.
Hugs!
I was wondering, if anything to accept love, you have to accept yourself, Ennis never really did that, it was an ongoing battle with him. Even before Jack, he was programmed to be a loner. A very careful person since his childhood, he was really never close to anyone in his life. shuffled after his parents death from sister to brother, then alone, how in anytime in his life was he ever close to anyone.
Then Jack comes along, Ennis's orientation, (and I don't mean sexual), but his nature of being a loner, was set on its ear. Jack gave him that closeness that he never had, but Jack was a man, his feeling for him was for a man I don't his fear was not only they be caught, but his fear was being "boys like you". His love for Jack ran counter to what he tried to be, and that was someone he wasn't. He desperately tried to hold on to Jack, but under conditions he only could deal with.
Ennis is a complicated guy, dealing with so much more than just the fear of discovery, but discovering who he is.
Am I off the mark on this one?
What do you think is meant: "boys like you". ?
Merci beaucoup, yes thanks very much optom !
Your post is marvelous ! I can see you as a professor... in an university, here by your dissertation-like explanations! These are great, by you !!
Just to outline as you say:
Seen from that perspective, Ennis is like a an orphan who is removed from the only environment he has known and taken under the nurturing wing of Jack. Slowly little bubbles of happiness start to arise to the surface,originally based on the simple bonding by the camp fire.
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Optom and to all too, do you think, therefore, that one can be actually be removed, to use your expression what he had known as sadness in his youth, to an area of happiness such as Brokeback Mountain becomes for Ennis ?
And is that likewise (a bit maybe too) for Jack ?
In a way, I say yes; in another way, I think no, considering my own life. As examples, when I was in Los Angeles or Quebec City (as well as in other places), I was sad... and became sader when I watched (in Quebec City) often during days: the clip of this Brokeback Mountain movie; why ? - likely because I yearned for such love as Ennis and Jake had - and I did not have my former lover-buddy anymore since he was now in heaven (had died) !! And, I remember that every time I went before his death: to my pal's place ( his house/his home), he and I... were happy !! So, my question is, do we have to be somewhere else in order to be happy ??
Ennis and Jack are always somewhere else ?? !!
Au revoir,
hugs!
But I feel that most people do not think about being joyful, purposeful, fufillment, nor about Ennis nor Jack, nor even about themselves ??