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Offline serious crayons

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Re: lovable subtle details
« Reply #300 on: July 27, 2006, 12:39:37 pm »
...Then he got married. And no more room for me. That's how come me end up here.

[I think he's simply repeating the same pronoun that he had used in the previous sentence], that helps project Ennis' lack of formal education. Anyone else never notice this detail?

Yeah, I couldn't even figure out what he was saying for a while because it made so little sense. And even after I did, I still found it jarring. It don't sound right to me -- even someone with bad grammar wouldn't say that. But I just try to ignore it, the way I try to ignore Heath's Aussie accent in the grocery store scene.

Another one that I've always found a tiny bit jarring -- although less so -- is "I doubt there's nothin we can do." I'm fine with double negatives, but that one just seems a little too convoluted. But if I hesitate to criticize the "more than you've spoke" scene, I'm CERTAINLY not going to start in on the Motel Siesta scene.

Besides, this is supposed to be lovable details, not slightly jarring ones.  :)

Oh, this just in:

It's the innuendo that gets to him, every time.

 :laugh:

But while we're on the subject -- and then I PROMISE to drop it -- what bothers me about "if I should come to know them" is that he pronounces it them instead of 'em.

I guess I'd better move these over to the "tent don't look right" thread.

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Re: lovable subtle details
« Reply #301 on: July 28, 2006, 11:31:33 am »
LOL!  Yes all sorts of little details about the reunion are way up there on my list of favorite details.  About Ennis's shirt here... I love, love, love that as Jack is tugging on it one of Ennis's buttons pops open.  It took me something like 20 viewings before I even noticed it.  So, apparently, not only did Ennis have to do a lot of shirt-tucking and looking around before heading back upstairs... he must also have had to re-button that button because it appears to be buttoned when he enters the apartment.  And, by the way... I'll mention this again... I love that he wipes his mouth as he enters the apartment door.  The final touch in putting himself back together before talking to Alma.

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It also magically becomes rebuttoned when the camera angle changes.
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Re: lovable subtle details
« Reply #302 on: July 31, 2006, 11:39:08 am »
jp...you pointed out Ennis's stance on the way to TS2, also on the way to getting a beer while waiting for Jack, and I have another one to add. When Cassie drags him away from Alma Jr. and toward the dance floor, he has the same tail-between-the-legs stance. It's sort of like a junkyard dog lookin for love... ;)
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Re: lovable subtle details
« Reply #303 on: July 31, 2006, 04:11:24 pm »
Another subtle detail that I always listen for is the sound, like WHUMP! or WALLOP! that ensues when the two men come together in embrace, such as during the reunion and post-divorce scenes.
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Re: lovable subtle details
« Reply #304 on: July 31, 2006, 10:50:58 pm »
Another subtle detail that I always listen for is the sound, like WHUMP! or WALLOP! that ensues when the two men come together in embrace, such as during the reunion and post-divorce scenes.

Yup, and also the way the sound of their boots seems really amplified on the steps during the reunion kiss.
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Re: lovable subtle details
« Reply #305 on: August 01, 2006, 04:34:53 am »

When Jack meets Alma, right after the reunion kiss, I love the way Jacks hat appears to swallow his head, as Jack somewhat disappears from view.  And then to see his big eyes slowly make its way out from under the brim!  He is so nervous, that to see someone so gregarious and brave to wish he was invisible.... is adorable.

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Re: lovable subtle details
« Reply #306 on: August 01, 2006, 08:37:59 am »
and you have to love how giddy and excited Ennis is when introducing Jack to Alma.   It is one of the few times you see Ennis with a big smile on his face.

I am so torn emotionally in that scene.    I am so happy for Ennis that his man is there, but I just cry for Alma too.  She has just discovered that her life will forever change.

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Re: lovable subtle details
« Reply #307 on: August 01, 2006, 04:25:52 pm »
and also the little sense of joy or surprise when Ennis hears that Jack has a son.   I think secretly, Ennis was hoping for a boy himself, and was sincerely happy that Jack has one.
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Re: lovable subtle details
« Reply #308 on: August 02, 2006, 03:48:20 pm »
and also the little sense of joy or surprise when Ennis hears that Jack has a son.   I think secretly, Ennis was hoping for a boy himself, and was sincerely happy that Jack has one.
This is one of my favorite moments in the film, and it is also one of the happiest. I think you may be right about Ennis's desire for a son of his own--in the short story, he tells Jack that he always thought he'd have a boy, but ended up with only girls. He clearly loves his daughters "to bits" (says so in the story), but I get the sense that a son would have provided another avenue for male bonding, something that I believe Ennis desires, both sexually/romantically (via Jack) and emotionally/amicably (through the son he never had, and perhaps with the father that he lost and the brother from whom he seems estranged).

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Re: lovable subtle details
« Reply #309 on: August 02, 2006, 03:52:32 pm »
So true, Scott.
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