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The check-in--add your thoughts!
« on: April 28, 2006, 04:24:30 pm »
Hi everyone!

I notice there are quite a few of us here on this lovely Friday, and since it seems to be the right time, and the right place, I wanted to start a check-in post, which I’ve been meaning to do for a while. I hope after I'm done that others will add their own thoughts and sentiments.

I’ll just start by saying how much I’ve missed being here (if not 24-7, then at least 4 or 5-7!). Most of you remember my post from 2 weeks ago saying I’d be taking some time off from here and not posting as much. I’ve tried to be on the board almost every day for a little bit, but I have missed feeling like I really know what is going on here.

In the time since that post, I’ve been going through a few things—hating my job enough to do something about it, for one. I also realized I had taken on a few too many Brokie things—the archive, the necklaces (they’re comin, I swear!), the store/marketing, the abandoned security check for the yahoo group, and just bein a normal Tremblayan and having fun. I wanted to do all of it so badly, but it was overwhelming to try and cram it in after work each day, when I was already stressed from that situation. I know, take it easy right? Let be. But I’m a little too much like Ennis in lots of ways…it’s all or nothing I guess.

So, all that got me down. I couldn’t do any of it really. Also, it all  happened EXACTLY when the movie left theaters, slowly plunging me into a state of Brokeback Mountain Withdrawal that saw me suddenly posting and laughing less than I had for the past several months in a row. I’ve never laughed as much everyday as I have with you all for the past two months and more, counting the big board. This week it’s back more, the laughing, I mean. Maybe it’s you guys being funny or maybe it’s me being less stressed, or both. In any case, I’m definitely grateful, and much obliged.

But the withdrawal from the film was a big deal to me, and we’ve only barely talked about it I think (can’t be sure since I haven’t been here enough to know). I think I am one of the few—maybe the only one—who still hasn’t watched the DVD! And I got an advance copy in March! I just couldn’t do the small screen thing. So I slowly stopped thinking of it every day first thing, last thing, in between things, etc. With people posting less about the movie itself, I guess that was a big but unspoken change.

I've also been annoyed with myself because, for all my love of the movie and you guys, I can’t claim to have really changed my life the way I wanted to after being so affected by the movie—relationship-wise, I am as Ennis-y as ever. I think I need to use this site and the beautiful community here to begin delving deeper into why that’s so, or figure out how to change it so I don’t end up alone like Ennis, which is a great fear of mine.

Speaking of fears of mine, I noticed that it got quiet here on CT for a little while. Some people left, and others just sort of dropped off unexpectedly (Nicole!). That's made me wonder—what’s going on for us now as a community? This is a big part of my check-in actually. We’ve been through a lot. The troll war happened a month ago this week, and we’ve been here now exactly four weeks. I think that whole ordeal created some big waves that we’ve weathered pretty well. But some aspects of the community seem now to belong in either “IMDb days” or “BetterMost days.” Like the Cult Thread—I miss it so much! Is it true that the time is past for such innocent reverie? Such poetic creations? I hope not. But maybe so.

In regards to the quieter week or two that we've had recently--are many of us just a little more busy/stressed than usual (exams anyone?)? Needing a break from life? Some down time for once? Maybe it's the Spring weather and we want to go out more. Or the fact that we have begun to do a little bit of other things besides focus solely on the movie now that four and a half months have passed...maybe all of these things. But I guess in general I feel like we’ve been through a transition time—the movie has pretty much finished playing in theaters, the awards are done, and the DVD is out. Not much left to look forward to, sigh. And though the noticeable drop off in posting has been a bit scary to me (even though I did it too) it’s only natural, and it doesn't mean we are "going away" as a community.

I am curious now about how others feel….I know that people will come and go more now than before perhaps, but we still seem to have a pretty strong group here. How are you guys doing with the movie pulling out of theaters? Are you watching the DVD anymore? Listening to the soundtrack?

An, what do we hope for our community now? What do we stay together for? These are the questions I am curious about for you as individuals and for us as a group.

I’m here because I love you all and I don’t want to stop sharing the laughter, love, and growth I’ve found with you (even if our posts are no longer exclusively about the movie). I also still have a lot of things to get out of BBM--I know it won’t end just because it’s not on the big screen.

Personally, my biggest dream for our community is still to have a gathering in Calgary either this summer or next. Meeting together, as many of us as possible--to camp, to watch the movie on some big screen outside, to share some whiskey, coffee, elk meat, beans, and each others’ incredible company (tents or no tents)--would be the ultimate brokie experience for me.

Back in March, Meryl and I were pushing for this summer; strike while the iron’s hot I said…but others’ wanted to wait to save up enough money to get to come from far away, and do it next summer. Either way, it’s my big dream for us. I really want to make that happen. But even if it doesn’t, my intention and prayer for us is to continue our very fun, loving, and remarkable journey together in cyberspace—as long as we can ride it.

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Re: The check-in, one month after our arrival here....
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2006, 04:34:39 pm »
Wow, has it only been one month? It seems like I'm getting to know my fellow Tremblayans better than some of my closest friends! Thanks for sticking with us and sharing your thoughts. In many ways, I feel like we've only just begun. I especially enjoy chatting with new and old Tremblayans; only wish there were more of us in the Western time zones. But it's great to say g'day to the Australians when I'm chatting in the wee hours and sharing thoughts all over the world.
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Re: The check-in, one month after our arrival here....
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2006, 04:38:49 pm »
Calgary 07!

Hey Jenny, I haven't watched the DVD either.  But I've gotten friskier and postier in the last week.

I sympathize with your musings.  I would like to say, though, that a month ain't nothin.  To me, it doesn't feel like a long time (I feel like I've been here forever), and someday it'll be a drop in the bucket because someday we'll have known each other for years.  Right?

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Re: The check-in, one month after our arrival here....
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2006, 05:13:08 pm »
Hi Jenny!

It's so good to see you again-I have missed you, for you and also as a piece of my past. I am here everyday because, like you, the end of the theater run just left me depressed and bereft. The theater experience was such a big part of my love affair, and affair that I am not ready to let go of but, it seems, does need to change. We are less focused on the movie now (but in recent days there has been more of that activity-VERY HAPPY about that) and I miss that. My Ennis-ness rears it's insecure head with the casual "chummy" posts cuz I don't know how to join in-oh, the ghosts of high school are ever present!

I am trying to wean myself, not from the movie or this home, but from my emotional entanglement with all things BbM. I hate to let any part of it go-strange because much of it was quite painful-but feeling like I need to find a "place" for this experience. I still dream of Ennis and Jack, still wake-up with them on my mind, still have a hard time connecting to readings that are not BbM, I am just able to watch movies again but have a hard time seeing Heath Ledger characters if there is any remote resemblance to Ennis delMar. Most is disturbing is the fantasy life I have with Jake Gyllenhaal (who bugs-don't kill me!)!

So, with all that, I have opted to embrace my insanity. I'll get psychiatric help if I stop going to work or start drinking more than 3 bottles of wine per week. Until then, it's Bettermost.net and my Tremblay family.

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Re: The check-in, one month after our arrival here....
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2006, 05:20:05 pm »
Darling Jenny, what a gorgeous, heartfelt post.  Can't possibly do any of it justice.

I'm here for the long haul.  I may dip in and out when things get hairy in my real life (like recently: exams and end-of-term stress is nothing to sneeze at), but I'll be around.  I'm doin' this again next summer.

I've got some major guilties because I'm not as wound up in the film as I was before.  There was a period where I just lived and breathed it - dreamed about it - ate beans nonstop.  But I'm letting it go now, and because of that, I feel like an impostor here.  It makes me sad because I have come to really adore my Tremblayans.  Has anyone else had the experience of discussing something REALLY IMPORTANT with friends recently (like, say, movies or books or hot ass fucking) and been utterly dejected when they don't all rush in with opinions and original thoughts and pant-wettingly funny jokes? 

I haven't watched my DVD either.  It's sitting there on my shelf, but I'm putting it off for as long as I can possibly stand it.  When I watch it again, I want it to wake me up like it did the first time.  I want to think of the film tenderly, with awe.  Handling it too much makes it go stale for me.  I can't bear the thought of it becoming ordinary.

But if you'll still have me, I'd like to remain here.  I don't really have anything new or stunningly perceptive to say about Brokeback, but I could make tea.  I make good tea.  Also very good lemon biscuits.  I have my uses.

I love it when we can move on to discussions of other movies which we're loving/hating/feeling conflicted about.  It feels really vibrant in here when rtprod's bringing up ideas about United 93, or Sarah's musing about Secretary.  Green and spankingly fresh thoughts.  I'd also love to explore what other people are reading right now (How're the Forsyte's doing, S?).  There are so many great brains to pick around here.

Going to stop blathering now.  Apologies for run-on sentances and verbal diarrhea.

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Re: The check-in, one month after our arrival here....
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2006, 05:33:19 pm »
Chantie:
"Handling it too much makes it go stale for me."
Same here.

I like your references to, uh, spanking.
I like your uses.
I like verbal diarrhea.  I'm swimming in it!

The Forsytes are great.  I really love them.
I don't know if all editions have a family tree as a frontispiece, but mine does, and, while it comes in handy initially, it also reveals some plot turns that I would rather not have known about in advance.  It reminds me a little of when I read War and Peace: years before I read it, I had happened upon just the shortest snippet of the movie version, with Audrey Hepburn, and a major plot element had been revealed in just the seconds I saw.  I was flipping channels, or it was in a documentary or something.  I had forgotten it entirely for years, but then when I got into the book and became attached to the characters whose futures I had inadvertently learned about years before, I had this eerie deja-vu feeling about them.  It actually made the experience all the more poignant.  Kinda made me love them more because I knew something they didn't know.  Sniff.  I can imagine having had an eerie forefeeling with Brokeback Mountain, but in fact I didn't.

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Re: The check-in, one month after our arrival here....
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2006, 06:18:41 pm »
Guilty, guilty, guilty.  I'm a naughty little ferret.  No more hijacking threads.  I'm taking the Forsytes over to Anything Goes.  Earl Gray and cucumber sandwiches will be served.

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Re: The check-in, one month after our arrival here....
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2006, 06:25:12 pm »
Hey Ruby  (I still think we may be twins!) & all -

I am still obsessed, watching the DVD every week since it came out (bought it as the store opened on 04/04).  Somehow I am comforted by it (was in a panic when I thought Brokeback was leaving the theater & thus saw it 3 days straight for 3 weeks in a row!!).

I still post on TOB.  It actually took me awhile to move over to here also.  But, I do not post as frequently and worry that new topics, views and insights are becoming fewer & fewer.

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Personally, my biggest dream for our community is still to have a gathering in Calgary either this summer or next. Meeting together, as many of us as possible--to camp, to watch the movie on some big screen outside, to share some whiskey, coffee, elk meat, beans, and each others’ incredible company (tents or no tents)--would be the ultimate brokie experience for me.

I AGREE completely - and am definitely ready to go in "07 - would love to this year also, but I have already made plans that can not be changed.  I hope that someone (Someone?) will get an e-mail list of everyone that wants to travel to Calgary so, even if they fade from this site somewhat, they can be contacted about our reunion.

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Re: The check-in, one month after our arrival here....
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2006, 07:12:58 pm »
Silk, my sistah! I miss you everyday when I don't see you logging in here or on TOB! We are sooo in the same place over this so hang out, you bring the coffee and I'll bring the cherry cake!

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Re: The check-in, one month after our arrival here....
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2006, 09:48:23 am »
Just shamelessly bumping my thread...I hope it generates more discussion today. Kinda serious, I know, but put your two cents in about how you are and how we seem to be doing. Things look good today!

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Re: The check-in--add your thoughts!
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2006, 03:41:56 pm »
Heya Jenny!

It's so fun to see you around on the boards!  I agree with the distinct split between BetterMost days and Imdb days-gone-by.  I never post in imdb anymore (except for on extremely rare occasions).  But, lately I've been refering back to lots of discussions that happened back then.  I feel like we hashed out some of the most complex aspects of the film and came up with some of the more difficult aspects of interpretation (the classical allusions, symbols of various kinds,  relationships to Chinese philosophy/mythology, etc.) back on the old boards.  It's difficult sometimes to re-visit and re-energize old subjects.  Although, I have to say recently there have been a lot of great threads discussing the film in-depth again.  So, I feel like I've been posting a lot in the last few weeks.  I do miss a lot of the old people from the imdb days.  I know lots of them are registered here, but many seem to never or only rarely check in.  It will be interesting to see how these forums and discussions evolve after several months go by.  Once we've all seen the movie a million times and have had all of these discussions, keeping things fresh might become a challenge.  It's certainly possible, but I'm sure things will evolve. 

I'm guessing that unveiling those amazing archives will make a huge contribution to discussions down the road.
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2006, 11:35:27 pm »
Hi Jenny,

Funny to post to you after having met you.  I didn't mention in the brunch thread that you have the most infectious laugh! 

Whenever I read about what this group was like on TOB it's with a twinge of jealousy that so many of you made this connection both because of and beyond BBM.  I didn't really know anyone personally who had a similar reaction to the movie.  Friends of mine usually loved it as a movie, but I never really had a chance to really admit how deeply it affected me.  So I was very glad to come across Bettermost, and than this wild group who called themselves Tremblayans and felt like maybe this could be a place to connect. 

I can relate to a lot of what you're saying about not being able to post as much as before.  I feel like I'm still figuring out how I fit in on this board, how I want to make changes in my life.  I'm not very good at opening up about myself but i do find this is a pretty open and accepting place. 

One other thing I relate to not watching the DVD.  I kind of dread the idea of watching it by myself.  I enjoyed that catharsis of seeing it with an audience, but it's gonna be hard to watch alone.  The bonuses were alright though.

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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2006, 12:11:28 am »
One other thing I relate to not watching the DVD.  I kind of dread the idea of watching it by myself.  I enjoyed that catharsis of seeing it with an audience, but it's gonna be hard to watch alone.  The bonuses were alright though.
Juan

Hi Juan,
Well, I just finished watching the DVD all the way through (only re-watching the reunion kiss once)!  I tell you, the movie on DVD really is a different experience from the theater experience.  Someone here once admitted that it took them 4 hours to watch it all the way through the first time they put it in their machine.  This is oh so true.  I got the DVD right when it came out (with a slight delay waiting for amazon to actually deliver) and have watched it an embarassing number of times since then.  And, I saw it 5 times in the theater way back when.  I'll guarantee you that it doesn't lose it's emotional impact.  I'm sitting here with wet eyes (having just turned the TV off).  My problem lately is that I honestly haven't been able to handle watching the second half of the film.  In the past few weeks I've been turning it off right after the motel scene.  So, tonight was a triumph of will power to watch straight through.  And, the more you know about this film the more the flashback scene and the Lightning Flat scene knock the wind out of you.  I swear...
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On the subject of the DVD special features... my favorite thing is Ang Lee's brief and brilliant description of his understanding of the relationship between Jack and Ennis.  He says it's "something precious and private and they cannot articulate..."  I LOVE THAT!

I also enjoy watching Jake chase the sheep around in their pen.  Funny.
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Re: The check-in--add your thoughts!
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2006, 12:41:17 am »
Hey Jenny and everybody!

A long time ago, I thought that we'd have dispersed by now. For that matter, back then I was reluctant to get too close to this group because I thought I'd WANT to have dispersed by now, and figured making friends would just complicate matters. The problem is, I'm not ready to a) disperse or b) quit y'all, now that I've gotten to know you.

I don't yet own the DVD, partly because I don't own any DVDs and partly because time the last time I saw it in a theater I'd already seen it so many times I was afraid I'd get desensitized to its magic. I wasn't, still loved it. I probably could have watched it a bunch more times on the big screen. But now I'm holding off so that, when I finally do see it again, it's like a whole new experience. Unlike Juan, I don't mind watching it alone. All but one of the times I watched it in the theater I was alone, and I prefer it that way.

Unfortunately, this withdrawal from actual viewing has not done much to diminish my obsession. If anything, I'm even MORE eager, now that I'm not seeing it every week, to discuss every imaginable detail, every nuance, every emotional reaction, every cute face, every sexy moment, every ambiguous motivation, every symbol or metaphor, every everything. I still think about the movie practically evey waking minute. Sometimes I fear we've already discussed everything there is to discuss, and it makes me really really sad. Then there'll come a day when people will suddenly launch a whole bunch of new interesting threads and I'll think, thank god! It's not over.

I rarely check in at imdb anymore. But when someone calls my attention to a thread, I find there are some very impressive discussions going on there -- some involving issues and metaphors that we haven't even considered here. Hard to believe, but there is still more to say.

I'm glad to stick around and keep saying it. Long as we can ride it.

Love to everybody,

Katherine

PS Amanda, I just read your post and it made me want to go onto Amazon THIS SECOND and buy the DVD. I'm still holding off. But I know what you mean about finding it hard to watch the second half -- often, I felt like walking out of the actual theater halfway through. (I only WISH I could have gotten the projectionist to run the reunion kiss more than once!) And one more thing: "something precious and private and they cannot articulate..." is pretty much exactly the way I interpret their relationship, and is such a wonderful way of putting it!









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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2006, 01:08:00 am »
Hi Katherine
(It's fun to use your real name once in a while  :D)

I'm very fascinated by this trend of devoted BBM aficionados putting off watching the DVD.  I can certainly appreciate wanting it to feel new again.  Now that I do have the DVD it's hard to not watch it all the time.  Everything else on the shelf and certainly on TV seems very lack-luster in comparison.  This being said, I'm extremely impressed by your level of analysis throughout all these threads even without seeing the movie for a while.  So, I'm encouraging you to go buy it so that we can all read your interpretations once you have been able to replay scenes, etc.

By the way, as far as I can tell, the only way to get through the movie without replaying scenes is to put the remote control across the room or in another room.  It's a sad state of affairs. 
 ::) :-\ :D

And, I'll admit this (it should go in that thread here about silly stuff we've felt compelled to do because of BBM)... I went out and bought a better TV in honor of this movie.  My old TV was really old and needed to be replaced anyway.  But, acquiring this film was the best motivation.

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« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2006, 01:30:29 am »
By the way, as far as I can tell, the only way to get through the movie without replaying scenes is to put the remote control across the room or in another room.  It's a sad state of affairs. 
 ::) :-\ :D

And, I'll admit this (it should go in that thread here about silly stuff we've felt compelled to do because of BBM)... I went out and bought a better TV in honor of this movie.  My old TV was really old and needed to be replaced anyway.  But, acquiring this film was the best motivation.

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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2006, 01:35:00 am »
LOL, Amanda -- another reason I've put off the DVD is that I don't have a TV set worthy of watching it on! If that's not an excuse to buy a new set, I don't know what is.

Thanks for the nice words. If you see me start forgetting sequences of events or misquoting dialogue or making other silly mistakes, let me know, and I'll know that then it's time FOR SURE to run out and get the DVD. Meanwhile, after all this withdrawal I am really looking forward to seeing it when I eventually do (though to be absolutely honest, it's not like I haven't set eyes on a frame of it for a month -- YouTube has been invaluable in the meantime! And by the time I finally get the DVD, I won't be quite as compelled to hit the rewind for those 4 nights in 20 years as I will for some of the scenes I haven't seen in a while).




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« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2006, 07:06:32 am »
I have to confess, I've gotten a little tired of the movie. *GASP*

But I have not gotten tired of talking about it and I have certainly not gotten tired of you fine people.  I have been trying to get current on CT threads and have so far only gotten as current as page four, so I'm a little behind the times and reluctant to stop to post very often.  Plus I haven't even started getting to know the rest of the Bettermost site.

I don't think this community is in any danger of breaking up, especially if we keep scheduling gatherings now and then.  I know we in the Bay Area are having one more get together for a DVD screening at SFU.  Or SF State.  I forget which.  And when I move in August I'll get to meet the LA folks that I unfortunately missed at the Aero (more on that news as it becomes known to me).

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« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2006, 01:23:35 pm »
I have a friend who also loves Brokeback (not a member here) who also has not watched his DVD yet.  Is afraid it will not have the same impact.

I am definitely in the minority!  Not only have I not tired of it in any way, I have watched the DVD every week.  And although I still feel the sadness & still wake sometimes the next morining just as Ennis did in the short story,  I usually feel comforted somehow. 

I have watched other favorite DVD's now (had minor surgery so off work for a bit) so the obsession is less but, other than the Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada, have not watched another film in the theater.

Looking forward to Calgary.  It is truly a beautiful place.
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« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2006, 01:49:33 pm »
I have not seen the movie since late March. I have a big deadline on Thursday, and I'm thinking that on Friday I may celebrate by watching the DVD. But even then, I probably will rent it. I'm scared to see it too many times. I'm also thinking how great it will be if I ever go a REALLY long time -- six months, a year; you would think that eventually in my life this will be possible -- and it has started to fade in my mind and then I see it again and it will be so fresh it will feel like I'm seeing it for only the third or fourth time!!! (Never my first, though, and I wouldn't WANT it to feel like that, because I missed way too much of the meaning the first couple of times.)

Meanwhile, as for this place, I am sad whenever I think about the built-in obsolesence here. Kirk, I had just been wondering where you'd been lately. And I recall other names I used to see around who now rarely or never show up. I have come to think of you guys as genuine friends, even if my knowledge of you in many cases lacks important components -- appearance, profession, age, even gender -- that I have of my "real life" friends. In fact, it's partly those missing elements that make this such an interesting experience.

So if I lose touch with you guys I will miss you a lot. It's one reason I remain so addicted to these boards, even when I'm not seeing the movie frequently.


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Re: The check-in--add your thoughts!
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2006, 10:00:16 pm »
I'm scared to see it too many times. I'm also thinking how great it will be if I ever go a REALLY long time -- six months, a year; you would think that eventually in my life this will be possible -- and it has started to fade in my mind and then I see it again and it will be so fresh it will feel like I'm seeing it for only the third or fourth time!!! (Never my first, though, and I wouldn't WANT it to feel like that, because I missed way too much of the meaning the first couple of times.)

Meanwhile, as for this place, I am sad whenever I think about the built-in obsolesence here. Kirk, I had just been wondering where you'd been lately. And I recall other names I used to see around who now rarely or never show up. I have come to think of you guys as genuine friends, even if my knowledge of you in many cases lacks important components -- appearance, profession, age, even gender -- that I have of my "real life" friends. In fact, it's partly those missing elements that make this such an interesting experience.

So if I lose touch with you guys I will miss you a lot. It's one reason I remain so addicted to these boards, even when I'm not seeing the movie frequently.



Katherine, I agree with you on so many things you said--being afraid to watch too much, missing people who don't post anymore, how much I love people here, and how important this place is to me. I am less addicted now to the boards, for various reasons--my work life and career are things I am really trying to make major changes in, plus there are aspects of the aesthetics of these boards like font size and type, that have always made it a bit harder for me to read and post here as voraciously as I did at IMDb. I need a bigger font, a bolder typeface, a wider space for posting, etc. I hope that some of those things might be possible to change because I really DO want to post and read here much more. (Not that that stopped me from being here yesterday from 9:30 am till about 3 pm! even though it was GORGEOUS outside.)

I also agree that we seem to be going strong now again. Maybe not as strong as we were in say, February or March, but pretty damn good for 5 months out. I love it that h-pie (yay I got to use it!) said in a few years a month will seem like nothing b/c we will have known each other for that long. Imagine us getting to congratulate Becky on graduating from high school, or take  Brandon out for a drink when he turns 21!

And I agree that it's really hard to keep up with it all, Kirk. I try to not take off for more than 36 hours at a time. that seems to be a do-able amount to catch up on things in a rudimentary way. But one thing that has really changed is that I am not staying up till 1 am or 2 am every night anymore (having to get up at 7:30), and this is good. I did that for about 2 or 3 months, and though it was really fun, it was hard on me and caught up to me. So I am replenishing the lost sleep now. Hopefully I will have a job in a few months that will allow me to stay up and then sleep late, b/c a lot of good stuff happens here when the west-coasters get on late at night!

so, thanks everyone who has posted here, it's been really heart warming to see you sharing where you're at, with the DVD, the community, the Calgary dreams.

Love and yeehaws,

Jenny
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Re: The check-in--add your thoughts!
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2006, 10:25:15 pm »
I've lost my fears about watching the movie too many times.  I was worried about that for a while too.  But, so far so good.  The movie truly hasn't lost its impact.  I'm hoping that this is a good sign that it will hold up as a "classic"... I mean people don't get tired of reading/seeing Romeo and Juliet over and over again... or watching Casablanca, etc.  BBM just really feels like a classic to me, even if it may be too soon to really tell.

The one thing that I find funny that has changed for me in my many viewings is the pace of BBM seems very different now than it did in the beginning.  Certain things just go by so fast now.  For example... Does anyone remember that funny old thread about "the horse spinning scene" back on imdb?  remember long considered discussions about all sorts of aspects of that scene... the intense look Jack gives Ennis, the way Ennis watches Jack ride away, the various meanings of horse terms like "crow hopping (is that right?)", etc.  And the first time I watched the DVD I just cracked up because the "horse spinning scene" goes by in the blink of an eye.  This sense of the movie's pace doesn't really change the film's impact, it's just noticeably different now.

And, of course I echo what people have said about loving the message board.  I'm sure BetterMost will continue to evolve and take on a life of it's own.  BBM will certainly continue to be a point of reference, a common interest, etc. for people here... But, conversations will probably grow in many unpredictable directions as the months go on.  Once friends are made, it's easy for a good message board to continue on.  At least I hope so in the case of BetterMost!
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Re: The check-in--add your thoughts!
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2006, 10:39:29 pm »
Hey Amanda!

I feel similarly about certain scenes going by really quickly, and that's what I don't want to have happen from watchign it too much. I would hope that I am really present for it all instead of having the feeling of having seen things so much that I don't truly 'see' them anymore. So for that reason, I like it that I am taking off from the movie for a few weeks now. When some things are done in my shop that I've been meaning to do for 5 or 6 weeks, and all my archiving and necklace-making are done, then I will truly feel like a free woman again, or a brokie with some time on her hands, at least, and I will enjoy the reward of seeing the movie again. Right now I'd put that event a few weeks off still. Maybe by mid-june, then it'll have been two months since seeing it. Wow, that will be interesting. I'll keep you posted.

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Re: The check-in--add your thoughts!
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2006, 01:22:28 am »
I've lost my fears about watching the movie too many times.  I was worried about that for a while too.  But, so far so good.  The movie truly hasn't lost its impact.  I'm hoping that this is a good sign that it will hold up as a "classic"... I mean people don't get tired of reading/seeing Romeo and Juliet over and over again... or watching Casablanca, etc.  BBM just really feels like a classic to me, even if it may be too soon to really tell.

Amanda, I don't think it's too soon to tell. I realize the BetterMost community's reaction is not the norm, but I am convinced that Brokeback is  as much a classic as The Godfather, Casablanca, Citizen Kane and whatever other movies one would put in that echelon. (Does anybody here NOT agree with this?)  I don't think the whole world has caught onto that yet -- my husband actually rolled his eyes when I said that, on Oscar night, in my despondency over the outcome -- but I believe that eventually they will. That's one thing I feel pretty sure of.

I'm really encouraged, Amanda, by your saying that the movie hasn't lost its impact for you. I hope it never does for me, either.

And I really hope you're right about this:

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BBM will certainly continue to be a point of reference, a common interest, etc. for people here... But, conversations will probably grow in many unpredictable directions as the months go on.  Once friends are made, it's easy for a good message board to continue on.  At least I hope so in the case of BetterMost!

There are so many people here that I have really grown to like and care about. But there were others here whom I once felt that way about ... and now they're gone, or at least rarely seen. Instead of a returned postcard stamped DECEASED, people just fade away and are never heard from again ...

Don't get me wrong -- I am still up for talking about the movie for a long time, still love to pick apart every imaginable nuance, still think about it constantly, am still obsessed and even, to some extent, still devastated. But I also realize that life must eventually go on. At one earlier point, back on imdb, I was reluctant to get very involved here, to make friends, because I knew that if I did it would be even harder to return to my normal life: there would be TWO things to have to quit. And I was right.

I don't want to quit you guys! And I'm not just talking about the you guys who might read this and recognize that you are among my you guys, but I'm also referring to the other you guys with whom I don't necessarily have a constant back-and-forth dialogue here, but whom I also feel I know, in a way, and really, really like! I would mention names but I'm afraid I'd forget some and regret it later. If you're reading this, just assume I'm talking about YOU. If nothing else, this board is a testament to the human capacity to connect with people once you know a few random things about them.

Anyway, I wish there was a way we could stay in contact. I really enjoy knowing you, to the extent that I do. I'm haunted by the idea that someday I'll be standing in a grocery-store line with one of you and NEITHER OF US WILL KNOW IT.