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Re: Cellar Scribblings
« Reply #17020 on: February 19, 2021, 10:21:29 am »
The big news I'm seeing now is that Texas people are suffering due to the storm, and Senator Ted Cruz, instead of dealing with it, has gone on a vacation.

And to Cancun, of all places! During a pandemic. He came right back and apparently isn't up for reelection until 2024, so maybe voters will have forgotten it by then. But he really is widely loathed.

My favorite Ted Cruz joke, by Al Franken: "I like Ted Cruz more than most people in the Senate, and I hate Ted Cruz."

Meanwhile, a new poll found 60% of Republicans favor a third party. And then there's Trump's insane condemnation of Mitch McConnell. Not insane because Mitch McConnell is so great -- I mean Mitch McConnell has played a huge role of supporting Trump through thick and thin these past four years. In many cases, McConnell probably knew better but did it anyway so the party would get its way.

Meanwhile, I remembered the context for Rush Limbaugh saying "I hope he fails!" It was in regard to Obama's plan to bring back the economy after the Great Recession. So Rush was not saying the stimulus was too big or too small or should be allocated some other way. He was saying he, Rush, was so partisan that he wanted Obama to fail to rescue his country's economy.



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Re: Cellar Scribblings
« Reply #17021 on: February 19, 2021, 10:53:47 am »
Meanwhile, a new poll found 60% of Republicans favor a third party.

Which could be stupid for Republicans, because if they split the Republican party, it can benefit the Democrats.

It's happened before. Ross Perot arguably contributed to Bill Clinton's victory and George H. W. Bush's loss in 1992. It also happened more than 100 years ago, in 1912, when Teddy Roosevelt split the Republican party; that contributed to Woodrow Wilson's victory. That year the Democrats also won control of both the House and the Senate. Let's hope Republicans have short memories and don't know their history. Let's hope they go right ahead and split their party.
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Re: Cellar Scribblings
« Reply #17022 on: February 19, 2021, 07:27:47 pm »
Which could be stupid for Republicans, because if they split the Republican party, it can benefit the Democrats. ... Let's hope Republicans have short memories and don't know their history.

I don't think they're THAT dumb (well, maybe some are). Most people know the elections have been close, that the balances in Congress are close, etc., and that if they split one big party into two smaller ones, Democrats will win every election.

(BTW, I think Ralph Nader also helped George W. Bush win his two elections. Thanks, Nader supporters. I'm sure 100,000 dead Iraqi children are happy you voted with your conscience.)

But I can understand the Republican's dilemma. Some Republicans are hardcore Trump supporters, some are reluctant Trump supporters and some are "anyone but Trump" Republicans. The best they can hope for is that Trump sort of fades from the picture and they can go back to supporting "normal" Republicans or abnormal ones like Ted Cruz.


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Re: Cellar Scribblings
« Reply #17023 on: February 23, 2021, 04:14:53 pm »
Hiya BetterMost friends!!!!




How is everyone doing?


It's the end of the month, so it's time for me to have to deal with the Monster Report that I have to deal with at the end of each month.

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I hate that report.  I guess that's why they don't pay me the big bucks.

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Spent some time cleaning the apartment today, and scrubbing the tub.  My new towels and shower curtain arrived, I'm still waiting on a picture frame to arrive.  Once it does, the room will be complete.

Other than that, it's been pretty quiet lately, and I'll grateful for that!


Tell him when l come up to him and ask to play the record, l'm gonna say: ''Voulez-vous jouer ce disque?''
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Re: Cellar Scribblings
« Reply #17024 on: February 23, 2021, 04:17:23 pm »
Meanwhile, a new poll found 60% of Republicans favor a third party. And then there's Trump's insane condemnation of Mitch McConnell. Not insane because Mitch McConnell is so great -- I mean Mitch McConnell has played a huge role of supporting Trump through thick and thin these past four years. In many cases, McConnell probably knew better but did it anyway so the party would get its way.

Which could be stupid for Republicans, because if they split the Republican party, it can benefit the Democrats.

I don't think they're THAT dumb (well, maybe some are). Most people know the elections have been close, that the balances in Congress are close, etc., and that if they split one big party into two smaller ones, Democrats will win every election.

(BTW, I think Ralph Nader also helped George W. Bush win his two elections. Thanks, Nader supporters. I'm sure 100,000 dead Iraqi children are happy you voted with your conscience.)

But I can understand the Republican's dilemma. Some Republicans are hardcore Trump supporters, some are reluctant Trump supporters and some are "anyone but Trump" Republicans. The best they can hope for is that Trump sort of fades from the picture and they can go back to supporting "normal" Republicans or abnormal ones like Ted Cruz.


I would be very happy to see the Republican party split in half, and give an advantage to the Democrats.


Tell him when l come up to him and ask to play the record, l'm gonna say: ''Voulez-vous jouer ce disque?''
'Voulez-vous, will you kiss my dick?'
Will you play my record? One-track mind!

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Re: Cellar Scribblings
« Reply #17025 on: February 23, 2021, 09:41:51 pm »

I would be very happy to see the Republican party split in half, and give an advantage to the Democrats.

Yes, which is why I doubt they'd do it.

The Republican party essentially did that deliberately to the Democrats, by luring former Dems to conservativism by exploiting their biases on cultural issues like abortion, same-sex marriage and racial equality.

But those were outsiders' strategies.  I don't know if the Democrats have ever done that to themselves, on purpose. Of course, there were probably conservative Democrats who bailed over the New Deal, and clearly many eventually fled to the Republican party after the Civil Rights Act.







 

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Re: Cellar Scribblings
« Reply #17026 on: February 24, 2021, 11:38:52 am »
Yes, which is why I doubt they'd do it.

Unless we're talking about different Republicans, it sounds to me like you're giving too much credit to rank-and-file Trumpians. Sorry, but I don't think those people will think, Oh, we need to stay Republicans so we can still beat the Democrats. I suspect these people will follow Trump over the cliff into a third party--if he actually forms one--which I hope he will do and split the Republican party. However, his enablers might very well convince him not to form a third party.
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Re: Cellar Scribblings
« Reply #17027 on: Yesterday at 11:02:50 am »
Unless we're talking about different Republicans, it sounds to me like you're giving too much credit to rank-and-file Trumpians. Sorry, but I don't think those people will think, Oh, we need to stay Republicans so we can still beat the Democrats.

If you're talking about people like the guy who wore face paint and horns when he and his buddies stormed the capital, you're probably right.

If you're talking about Mitch McConnell and Ted Cruz, guys like that  liked Trump only for strategic reasons in the first place.

In between are people who voted for Trump mainly because they hated Hillary, people who want a Republican in office so they can stay rich, people who want a Republican in office to get abortion outlawed, etc. I think Republicans in that group will mostly get it and don't care that much about Trump per se. And some Republicans hated Trump the whole time. I think those people constitute the majority of the party, although of course the departure of even a small subset could seriously weaken the party the way Ralph Nader voters weakened Democrats.

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I suspect these people will follow Trump over the cliff into a third party--if he actually forms one--which I hope he will do and split the Republican party. However, his enablers might very well convince him not to form a third party.

Who do you mean by his enablers? He never listened to anyone around him, all the way up to the end when he turned on the long-suffering Mike Pence.

And what do I know, but it seems to me that Trump is growing more irrelevant by the day. If it weren't for Jan. 6 , he'd be much better off. But I think the sight of a noose outside the Capital seemingly intended for the Republican vice president was a turnoff for many sane (relatively speaking) Republicans.