Thanks souxi! And thanks to all, and am glad that many continue and will be present again and again here... hopefully. Glad that you all care for human lives, in wondrous ways, with this BM movie too, as I figure Lureen is crying out for justice like Ennis and Jack did!! Lureen is Jack, may I say!
WE must never give up Lureens, Ennis' and Jacks!! They cry for justice... we give them by our thoughts!!!
We must and can act as this is a crisis that can not continue, even if it is somewhat perpetual for now in the World! It is everybody's bussiness to save them, to save ourselves since we are gays men, lesbian women, bisexual persons, heterosexuals, or others, or combinations. We all struggle for joy as joie de vivre, gay, times!!
Like it or not, Lureen's story is all of us, like Ennis and Jack's lives are too!! Lesbians like females (were/are) are regarded as non-persons still, potentially mental and dangerous by society then, and in some countries now, unfortunaltey; some muslims (and others) not uncommonly will kill their wive(s) to-day simply since she looked at an another man; such slaved women murdered to-day is common say Tv to-day!! And Lurenne might have been set ablaze, like some were in the USA colonies for being considered witches?? Danger remains for females in many ways, look at the past, present and, hopefully the future will be better and better for females; for Lureens! Terrible crimes are being committed against gay men, against lesbian, bisexuals too to-day, and of course to heterosexuals and others too!! I pray for everyone to be safe and be happy, gay, as you like!!
I am happy that you are blunt as you say, since I think that we need to be frank and agressive like Lureen some times!!
I am not as versed as she is, nor like you all. Be patient with me... please. Lureen had to be patient and agressive too!!
May I disagree with you, and say that indeed that I feel and am finding that Lureen is a lesbian or bisexual female, plus a woman, plus a mother, plus a spouse!! I applaud her!! Every person is a combination - like us in certain times- may I say!!
Likely I am now way, way, way ahead of all or most of you here now. So difficult for me to prove that. Here is another effort of mine, trying to show that Lureen is indeed bisexual and lesbian... plus other orientations. It's a mystery??
It is not easy for me to prove that to you and to others, since it is mainly abstracts in the Brokeback Movie movie. She does partake her life that way, as a lesbian, especially being a bisexual - since she does divide her life that way, as she has no other choice; plus, she grows that way, in the movie... I see, as her reality!! There is logics to this, bisexuality of her and by her.
She has to hide her lesbianism, she found that or not in college?? I think that she may very well enjoyed to touch slightly secretively - female for female issues - in college, and maybe had sex with another female(s) there. She did not approfondir French word, I guess to deepen more and more in English) that there in college or did she? She is in pain; quickness of sex shows that!! Does she feel guilty for being a lesbian - likely so unfortunately, since society dictates that, even by execution (death) to-day in certain countries; rediculing in our democratic countries still to certain degrees (hopefully that is changing) since our cries are being seen and the murdering of innocent persons like gay men for being gay men is reveal too as senseless and not human acts as humanity!!
In Lureen's case, becoming bisexual by choice and by force which society imposes - saves her life (temporarily is another thread later on). WE can not change history that much or at all, but we can change the present and the future; Lureen changes her present - for now we know (I know) that as she captures Jack and she will change also Jack's future (that is another thread saving him again).
I think that the BM movie is an important document for bisexuals and too for lesbianism; and for heterosexuality; and maybe for other sexual orientations or mixtures (combinations we know already as bisexual Ennis and Jack are to certain degrees and qualities).
Not afraid to contest, we must not be... the BM movie tells. Bisexuality is upfront since Ennis and Jack, have to marry females, of course they each do so differently. But they hope for homosexuality or something else too, each one, differently; gay sex for Jack; straight sex for Ennis with another man!! As first base, as second plot becoming like first bases too!!
Sex is GRAND in the BM movie; too in Annie's book; thank goodness. Natural! Good!!
It is very hard to establish lesbian ways and proofs for me, since I am not versed like you are all in composing for such or such.
Story plots are proofs of bisexuality, right??
The sections of plots being numerous are in themselves proof, I say, of lesbian issue, in the BM movie. No one can contest that homosexuality might not be there, nor that straight sex between two straight men can be there, nor straight sex man with a bi or gay man is not there. There are wonderful combinations, some shown as realities, some thought about as possibilities even if one can be imprisoned or place in an mental instituon or murdered for it in a so-called civilized world then and now, some underlined as abstracts.
Annie starts sex in different ways, evidence... she prepares; the BM mvoie prolongs that as abstracts that become real too... and it prepares too for numerous kinds of sex and comibinations too of couplings.
Not only spouces as couples are there in the book and film!! Partners are already identified by Annie; the BM movie covers that and adds more; of course, both Annie and the BM movie outlines possibilites as real stories, plus abstract ones underlined; plus, the infornations of that, adds more even as abstracts... as combinations for lovers!! To be happy and gay in!!
I will not suspend my idea about Lureen being lesbian or not, and for the moment offer the possibility of lesbians is like reality in the BM movie... to me. Lureen is agressive, why?? That says something, right!! I add that is saying many, many things, of course heterosexual living or especially likeness of that including bisexuality too, and I dare say lesbian as transition... surely or possibly.
Lureen is very, very well doing her job (for lack of a better word as choice forced as well as unforced) as a bisexual which she hides of course to the public; but not to some close to her??
Much needs to be said yet if Lureen is a lesbian...
hugs!!
