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Re: Heath Ledger - the grieving thread
« Reply #340 on: January 23, 2008, 03:44:30 pm »
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Re: Heath Ledger dead - grieving thread
« Reply #341 on: January 23, 2008, 03:45:04 pm »
Yup, me too, as I can't get on here at work but CAN get on IMDB. Although to be fair there are 99 times more people devastaed.

You know, I've been thinking, what would Heath make of this? It's all I've heard or seen in the news all day - we all know how much he hated being in the limelight. Do you think he's happy to see people mourning or embarassed and wanting everyone to stop?

I still can't believe it. So sad. :(

I've looked at comments on some public sites: the New York Times, TMZ.com, ABC news...and I can believe some of the insensitive comments people post. I am stunned (and not in a good way).

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Re: Heath Ledger dead - grieving thread
« Reply #342 on: January 23, 2008, 03:45:30 pm »
Matilda will never conciously know her daddy. She will not remember him. Poor Matilda. Poor Michelle. And all his family.

But one conccellation - there are so many pap pics of her with her daddy and with her daddy and mummy and her mummy and daddy together - book loads. These will dissapear over time I'm sure - by the time she goes to try and collect them many will have dissapeared from websites. I hope someone close has the hindsight to collect all these lovely pap photos.

Yes, paps can be the deveil, but in this case they've recorded what a doting father he was - matilda will be able to see that from the photos.


Where I found out - I came home from my band practice - Callum had stuck the computer on from me - just had made a cuppa and was just checking here before heading to bed. And there was the start fo the he's dead? threads. I initially thought it was a troll and was going to zap it with my mod privelidges.  :'(
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Re: Heath Ledger dead - grieving thread
« Reply #343 on: January 23, 2008, 03:46:37 pm »
Shit. Thats hard.

That was my one worry.  That family, Michelle etc would find out that way. I knew 90mins wasn't long enough for them to know before it was  all over the news. :'(

It sounds like Michelle was informed by someone, ie, told personally. She was at her hotel in Sweden and they said it was "late in the evening" when she found out. Somehow, I didn't get the sense she was flipping through the channels on Swedish TV.

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Re: Heath Ledger dead - grieving thread
« Reply #344 on: January 23, 2008, 03:47:36 pm »
I've just been looking up stuff as much as I can today  chekcing the news every 10mins for any updates....

I'm doing the same. One problem is I feel I already know so much about his life and career that the background stuff isn't very informative -- I want new developments. And quotes from other actors saying what a great actor/guy he was are only semi-satisfying.

I've looked at comments on some public sites: the New York Times, TMZ.com, ABC news...and I can believe some of the insensitive comments people post. I am stunned (and not in a good way).

Thank God we have Bettermost!

You can say that again. Though I wonder if this will cause a lot of people who previously hadn't seen BBM to watch it, spawning a whole new generation of Brokies.

I'm thinking of people who never got around to watching it because they just didn't realize how good it is, now will hear all these accolades and realize, hunh, maybe it's worth taking a look.



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Re: Heath Ledger - the grieving thread
« Reply #345 on: January 23, 2008, 03:48:28 pm »
I'm sure the NYPD made sure to make the proper notifications before this got released to the press.  That's pretty standard procedure.

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Re: Heath Ledger dead - grieving thread
« Reply #346 on: January 23, 2008, 03:51:07 pm »

·   I don't want Heath to join the ranks of James Dean and Marilyn Monroe and Janis Joplin and all the other celebrities who died too young.  I don't want him to be remembered by much of the world as that actor guy who died at 28.  I don't want him to be more famous dead than alive.  I don't want him to have the “cache,” or whatever you call it, of dying young. 


Is it wrong for me to say I do? I want some sort of recognition in years from now of how good he was...
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Re: Heath Ledger - the grieving thread
« Reply #347 on: January 23, 2008, 03:54:17 pm »
I am in Glasgow, Scotland.  It's 9.50 a.m. and I found out about 2 hours ago.  I've just been in the chat room, and I can't chat anymore.  I am absolutely gutted. 

Sandy - I'm in Glasgow too. Funnily enough - I just checked your profile - and you joined Bettermost on my birthday. How you doing? Hugs from not to far away...
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Re: Heath Ledger dead - grieving thread
« Reply #348 on: January 23, 2008, 03:58:05 pm »
Is it wrong for me to say I do? I want some sort of recognition in years from now of how good he was...

No I understand exactly what you mean.  Jimmy Dean and Marilyn Monroe aren't really remembered for there problems with drugs and such.  I don't know...when I think Marilyn Monroe I think Some Like It Hot...not her reputation for drugs and how she passed.  
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Re: Heath Ledger - the grieving thread
« Reply #349 on: January 23, 2008, 04:02:09 pm »
No I understand exactly what you mean.  Jimmy Dean and Marilyn Monroe aren't really remembered for there problems with drugs and such.  I don't know...when I think Marilyn Monroe I think Some Like It Hot...not her reputation for drugs and how she passed.  

The hideously sad part is that this is so common now, that I fear he will fall into the pantheon of troubled and talented people who died too young.  He deserves more than that.