Proulx "these characters began to get very damn real"

[brokeplex]

Thanks brokeplex!

You say:
one of the prices they would have paid for living together would have been a severing of most of their family ties 

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Brokeplex:

may I say but Alma lets Ennis see his girls (his children) ??



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Hugs!

if Ennis had moved in with Jack, I think that Alma might have caused Ennis no end of trouble in his relationships with his daughters.

[brokeplex]

Thanks optom!

You say about Jack and his child (Bobby) :
He certainly has sex with Lureen early on.After that seems to stop.Hence presumably only one child. 
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Optom, I think like brokeplex said that is NOT Jack's child!  But since Jack is a decent person and amiable, he cares for that child as a father would.Au revoir,
hugs!

very well said Artiste! 

[BlissC]

there is an entire thread on this web site devoted to the fact that the timeline established in the film concerning Lureen's pregnancy with Bobby is such that Bobby can not be Jack's child. I remain convinced that Bobby is not Jack's child.

That's interesting - I'll have to have a look at that. I have to admit I've never really paid that much attention to the timing of Bobby's birth.

[Artiste]

Thanks brokeplex!

Do you think that Ennis and Jack, living together, would adopt a child??

To all of you too, please answer.

Au revoir,
hugs!

[brokeplex]

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,16269.30.html

Bliss C , here is a link to the forum where we discussed this issue.

'Plex

[brokeplex]

That's interesting - I'll have to have a look at that. I have to admit I've never really paid that much attention to the timing of Bobby's birth.

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,16487.0.html

here is another link to different previous discussion about whether Bobby was Jack's child.

[BlissC]

Thanks.

[Artiste]

Thanks

So Alma would NOT at all let Ennis see his daughters if Ennis (her former husband) would have moved in with Jack?

You all think that?

Hugs!

[optom3]

Thanks

So Alma would NOT at all let Ennis see his daughters if Ennis (her former husband) would have moved in with Jack?

You all think that?

Hugs!

I think she would have made it very difficult for Ennis to see his daughters.However,they could have made up their own minds when they were older.In the S.S he does not see them "for a long time" after the thanksgiving dinner, and Jack Nasty scene.It says "figuring they would look him upwhen they got the sense and years to move out from Alma"
He is the one who decides not to see them.So could be it would not have bothered him, had Alma tried to stop hin seeing them.
This was relatively early on in ack and Ennis affair,because the story continues with,"years on years they worked their way through the high meadows---------- but never returning to Brokeback"
So I  suspect the girls were never that much of a problem.It was Ennis fears of living as a couple.

[Artiste]

Thanks optom!

Ennis and Jack never returned to Brokeback?

Why?

It seems like Brokeback in the film?

Hugs!