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1968 (Forty years later...)
« on: April 27, 2008, 01:48:22 pm »
That amazing summer--

Anyway: this film, "3,000 Paintings in 3 minutes," was made by a UCLA graduate student-filmmaker named Dan McLaughlin.
 
The music, of course, is "Classical Gas" by Mason Williams.
 
It was screened on "The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour" during the summer of 1968 (Glenn Campbell was the host)--
 
The impact was HUGE. I was 14 years old, and I have never, ever forgotten it.

(Sadly, for whatever reason, this ISN'T the exact original montage, but a recreation--but take a look--)
 
 Classical Gas/"3,000 Paintings in 3 minutes"
 The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, Summer 1968
   (2:39)
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ig6e68iGU8[/youtube]
 
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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2008, 02:04:12 pm »
Thanks for sharing, John. I turned 13 in the summer of 1968 and I, like you, have never forgotten that montage, nor have I forgotten Classical Gas. What a time. Lots of good memories...

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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2008, 08:57:36 pm »
Thank you, Leslie!   :)

It is 40 years ago this week, but unless I am very mistaken, it seems very strange that, here in New York, there is no mention AT ALL about the Columbia University protests, riots, and arrests. Why?

I think it very, very odd--

Anyway, if anybody is interested:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_University_protests_of_1968

In France, I think, there is much more interest now in mai soixante-huit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1968

So. For a cultural angle for posting this in the 'Culture Tent,' I'll add:



Poster from the French insurrection of May 1968.
The caption: sois jeune et tais toi can be translated as
"Be young and be quiet" or "Be young and shut up,"
with stereotypical silhouette of General de Gaulle.



I do think Americans in general are far too--docile? Complaisant?

Oh well--   ???
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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2008, 12:38:38 am »
History? Culture? Even Art?

Yes.

From The New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/world/europe/30france.html?hp=&pagewanted=all
 
Barricades of May ’68 Still Divide the French


Students, using trash can lids as shields, marching near the Gare de Lyon in Paris in May 1968.
Such images remain a powerful symbol in today’s France.


Students removed cobblestones from a street in Paris in May 1968. Some protesters threw stones at the police.
 
By STEVEN ERLANGER
Published: April 30, 2008
 
NANTERRE, France — Forty years ago, French students in neckties and bobby socks threw cobblestones at the police and demanded that the sclerotic postwar system must change. Today, French students, worried about finding jobs and losing state benefits, are marching through the streets demanding that nothing change at all.
 
May 1968 was a watershed in French life, a holy moment of liberation for many, when youth coalesced, the workers listened and the semi-royal French government of de Gaulle took fright.
 
But for others, like the current French president, Nicolas Sarkozy, who was only 13 years old at the time, May 1968 represents anarchy and moral relativism, a destruction of social and patriotic values that, he has said in harsh terms, “must be liquidated.”
 
The fierce debate about what happened 40 years ago is very French. There is even a fight about labels — the right calls it “the events,” while the left calls it “the movement.”
 
While a youth revolt became general in the West — from anti-Vietnam protests in the United States to the Rolling Stones in swinging London and finally the Baader-Meinhof gang in West Germany — France was where the protests of the baby-boom generation came closest to a real political revolution, with 10 million workers on strike, and not just a revulsion against stifling social rules of class, education and sexual behavior.
 
For André Glucksmann, a prime actor then and still a famous “public intellectual,” May 1968 is “a monument, either sublime or detested, that we want to commemorate or bury.
“It is a ‘cadaver,’ ” he said, “from which everyone wants to rob a piece.”
 
Mr. Glucksmann, 71 and still with a mop of Beatles-like hair, wrote a book with his filmmaker son, Raphaël, 28, called “May 68 Explained to Nicolas Sarkozy.”  

Mr. Sarkozy, in a stinging campaign speech a year ago as he ran against the Socialist candidate, attacked May 1968 and “its leftist heirs,” whom he blamed for a crisis of “morality, authority, work and national identity.” He attacked “the cynicism of the gauche caviars,” the high-livers on the left.
 
In 1968, “The hope was to change the world, like the Bolshevik Revolution, but it was inevitably incomplete, and the institutions of the state are untouched,” Mr. Glucksmann said. “We commemorate, but the right is in power!”
 
As for the French left, he said, “It’s in a state of mental coma.”
 
For Raphaël Glucksmann, who led his first strike at high school in 1995, his generation has nostalgia for their rebel fathers but no stomach for a fight in hard economic times.
 
“The young people are marching now to refuse all reforms, to defend the rights of their professors,” he said. “We see no alternatives. We’re a generation without bearings.”
 
The events (or movement) of 40 years ago began in March at Nanterre University, just outside Paris, where a young French-born German named Daniel Cohn-Bendit led demonstrations against parietal rules — when young men and women could be together in dormitory rooms — that got out of hand.
 
When the university was closed in early May, the anger soon spread to central Paris, to the Latin Quarter and the Sorbonne, where the student elite demonstrated against antiquated university rules, and then outward, to workers in the big factories.
 
Scenes of the barricades, the police charges and the tear gas are dear to the French, recaptured in every magazine and scores of books, including one by photographer Marc Riboud, now 84, called: “Under the Cobblestones,” a reference to a famous slogan of the time from the leader-jester, Mr. Cohn-Bendit, now a member of the European Parliament: “Under the cobblestones, the beach.”

Mr. Cohn-Bendit, known then as “Danny the Red” for the color of both his politics and his hair, is also thought responsible for other famous slogans of the time: “It is forbidden to forbid” and “Live without limits and enjoy without restraint!” — with the word for enjoy, “jouir,” having the double meaning of sexual climax.
 
The injunction was especially potent in a straight-laced country where the birth-control pill had been authorized for sale only the year before, noted Alain Geismar, another leader of the time.
 
Mr. Geismar, a physicist who spent 18 months in jail — but later served as a counselor to government ministers — wrote his own book, “My May 1968.”
 
Now 69, Mr. Geisner, a former Maoist, uses an iPhone. He happily displays his music catalog, which is mostly Mozart.
 
The movement succeeded “as a social revolution, not as a political one,” he said. While the de Gaulle government responded with the police and mobilized troops in case the students marched on the presidential palace, he said the idea never occurred to student leaders, who talked of revolution but never intended to carry one out.
 
Most significantly, Mr. Geismar noted, the movement was “the beginning of the end of the Communist Party in France,” which deeply opposed the revolt of these young leftists it could not control.
 
The leftists also managed in important ways to break the party’s authority over the big industrial unions.
 
The society of May 1968 “was completely blocked,” Mr. Geismar said — a conservative recreation of pre-World War II society, shaken by the Algerian war and the baby boom, its schools badly overcrowded.
 
“As a divorced man, Sarkozy couldn’t have been invited to dinner at the Élysée Palace, let alone be elected president of France,” Mr. Geismar said. Both the vivid personal life and political success of Mr. Sarkozy, with foreign and Jewish roots, “are unimaginable without 1968,” he said. “The neo-conservatives are unimaginable without ’68.”


André Glucksmann, who still supports Mr. Sarkozy as the best chance to modernize “the gilded museum of France” and reduce the power of “the sacralized state,” is amused by Mr. Sarkozy’s fierce campaign attack on the events of May 1968.
 
“Sarkozy is the first post-’68 president,” Mr. Glucksmann said. “To liquidate ’68 is to liquidate himself.”
 
But there is also a fashionable absurdity to the commemoration. The designers Sonia Rykiel and Agnès b. discuss their views of May 1968 in every magazine, there are documentaries and discussions on every channel and a Parisian jeweler, Jean Dinh Van, Vietnamese-born, has reissued a silver cobblestone pendant he made at the time, “to celebrate 40 years of liberty” — and, in his case, success. (The smallest, with chain, $275.)
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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2008, 12:21:09 pm »
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/26/arts/television/26martindick.html?hp
 
Dick Martin, Who Rode ‘Laugh-In’ to Fame, Dies at 86
 
By NEIL GENZLINGER
Published: May 26, 2008
 
Dick Martin, a veteran nightclub comic who with his partner, Dan Rowan, turned a midseason replacement slot at NBC in 1968 into a hit that redefined what could be done on television, died Saturday night of respiratory complications at a hospital in Santa Monica, Calif., according to The Associated Press. He was 86.
 
Rowan & Martin’s Laugh-In,” the hyperactive, joke-packed show that Mr. Martin and Mr. Rowan rode to fame, made conventional television variety programs seem instantly passé and the sitcom brand of humor seem too meek for the times.
 
The show was a collage of one-liners, non sequiturs, sight gags and double entendres the likes of which prime time had rarely seen, and it proved that viewers were eager for more than sleepily paced plots and polite song-and-dance. “Laugh-In” quickly vaulted to the top of the television ratings, and it spawned an array of catchphrases: “Sock it to me,” “Here come da judge” and Mr. Martin’s signature line, “You bet your sweet bippy.”
 
“People are basically irreverent,” Mr. Martin said in 1968, explaining the appeal of the show. “They want to see sacred cows kicked over. You can’t have Harry Belafonte on your show and not have him sing a song, but we did; we had him climbing out of a bathtub, just because it looked irreverent and silly. If a show hires Robert Goulet, pays him $7,500 or $10,000, they’re going to want three songs out of him; we hire Robert Goulet, pay him $210 and drop him through a trap door.” Though Mr. Martin had a respectable career in nightclubs before “Laugh-In” and enjoyed success as a television director after the show went off the air, his five years on “Laugh-In” elevated him to a different level of fame. The show won the Emmy Award for outstanding variety or musical series in both 1968 and 1969, and the special guests who dropped by over the years to deliver one-liners included Jack Benny, Bing Crosby, Cher, Zsa Zsa Gabor, Johnny Carson and, memorably with “Sock it to me?,” Richard M. Nixon. Mr. Martin and Mr. Rowan, who died in 1987, became international stars; in 1972 they were hosts of a variety show staged before Queen Elizabeth II at the London Palladium.
 
Thomas Richard Martin was born Jan. 30, 1922, in Battle Creek, Mich. His father, William, was a salesman; his mother, Ethel, a homemaker. In the early 1930s the family moved to Detroit, where Dick’s teenage years included a bout with tuberculosis that would keep him out of the military.
 
At 20 Mr. Martin, with his older brother, Bob, headed for Los Angeles with hopes of breaking into show business. He worked fitfully as an actor, a comic, and as a writer for radio shows like “Duffy’s Tavern,” but he was plying another trade, bartending, one day in 1952 when the comic Tommy Noonan brought in Dan Rowan, a former car salesman with showbiz aspirations of his own. Mr. Noonan introduced the two, and they quickly found their shtick — Rowan the sophisticate, Martin the laid-back lunk. They took their act on the road, inching up the club-circuit pecking order.
 
“It had no real highs or lows, it was just straight-ahead work,” Mr. Martin recalled of those early nightclub years in a 2007 interview. “I don’t think we ever failed. We didn’t zoom to stardom, but we always worked.”
 
Some of that work was on the small-time television programs that had sprung up in local markets — “Every city had a show like that: ‘Coffee With Phil,’ whatever,” Mr. Martin recalled — and the duo achieved a comfort level in the medium that proved useful once they became nightclub headliners. National television shows came calling, including Ed Sullivan’s, where Rowan & Martin made at least 16 appearances.
 
Mr. Martin also had a recurring role on “The Lucy Show” in the early 1960s, playing Lucille Ball’s neighbor, Harry Conners. But it was his work with Mr. Rowan that held the big payoff: the two had appeared on Dean Martin’s variety show on NBC, and — this being the era when stars took the summer off but their shows didn’t — in 1966 they were asked to be the hosts of “The Dean Martin Summer Show” for all 12 episodes.
 
“They were so high-rated that NBC said, ‘We want you to do a show for us,’ ” Mr. Martin recalled in 2007, and that led to a pilot for “Laugh-In,” which was broadcast Sept. 9, 1967. The show was well regarded — it won an Emmy as the outstanding musical or variety program — and when “The Man From U.N.C.L.E.” began to falter in midseason, Rowan & Martin got their shot at a series. Replacing that spy drama, “Laugh-In” made its debut on Jan. 22, 1968.
 
The show, partly the brainchild of the producer George Schlatter (who would later get into a court battle with Mr. Rowan and Mr. Martin over the rights to it), pushed the envelope of topical humor, something “The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour” had begun doing the year before. “Laugh-In,” though, was more interested in creating a frenetic pace than in creating controversy. To do so it relied on a cast of young, largely unknown comics like Judy Carne, Henry Gibson and Jo Anne Worley — a risky approach that one writer who logged time on the series, Lorne Michaels, would use when he shook up television anew in 1975 with “Saturday Night Live.” And, just as with the “S.N.L.” cast, a few “Laugh-In” alumni went on to impressive careers, most notably Goldie Hawn and Lily Tomlin.
 
Laugh-In” stayed No. 1 through its first two seasons, garnering 11 Emmy nominations in 1969 for Season 2. The novelty, though, began to wear off, and by 1973 it was off the air. A string of specials in later years revisited the format but without the jolt that the show’s first two seasons caused, and a 1969 film featuring Mr. Rowan and Mr. Martin, “The Maltese Bippy,” was panned. Vincent Canby, in The New York Times, called it “a movie that cheapens everything it touches.”
 
Mr. Martin’s friend Bob Newhart helped him transition to the director’s chair. He directed a number of episodes of the long-running “Bob Newhart Show,” as well as spot episodes of shows like “Archie Bunker’s Place” and “Family Ties” and Mr. Newhart’s later series. Mr. Martin also continued to act, playing roles on shows like “The Love Boat” and “Diagnosis Murder,” and turned up frequently on game shows and celebrity roasts in the 1970s and 80s. Among his occasional film roles was an appearance in “Air Bud 2: Golden Receiver,” a 1998 comedy directed by his son, Richard Martin.
 
In the early “Laugh-In” years Mr. Martin and Mr. Rowan were as opposite offstage as they seemed to be onstage. Mr. Martin, whose 1957 marriage to Peggy Connelly had ended in divorce in the early 1960s, was the swinging bachelor, Mr. Rowan the quiet family man. But in 1971 Mr. Martin married Dolly Read, a former Playmate of the Month who had appeared in “Beyond the Valley of the Dolls.” After divorcing four years later, they remarried in 1978. She survives him, as do Richard Martin and another son, Cary, from his marriage to Ms. Connelly.
 
Despite the fame and wealth that “Laugh-In” brought, Mr. Martin always retained a fondness for the earlier part of his career.
 
“My life has been divided into three parts in the show-business world: nightclubs, television, and then I was a director for 30 years of television shows,” he said in a 2006 interview on “The O’Reilly Factor.” “And I think the most fun I ever had was nightclubs. I loved nightclubs.”

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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2008, 01:29:37 pm »
Wow, thanks for posting this, John!

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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2008, 08:14:32 pm »
I turned 10 years old in May 1968. My memories are mixed. I have fond memories of Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In, and I remember being terrified by the events following Martin Luther King's assassination.  :-\
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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2008, 04:58:40 pm »
I was going to a French school in the middle of New York City at the time.  Most of the politics going on around me was kept from me.  I was still only almost nine years old.  A year later, when more was unravelling, I was paying attention.  But I loved Rowan and Martin, and the Smothers Brothers.

Back to Mason Williams - as is the way with YouTube, after watching the one you posted, John, I then clicked on this one, filmed in 2006.  He explains how he came up with the Smothers Brothers' theme song (predicated on deliberate mistakes), and then plays an explication of them being taken off the air, to the tune of "Those Were the Days." 

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7pwW2xmyto[/youtube]

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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2008, 09:13:05 pm »
Thanks, All!

Thanks, Elle!

Can you believe--Mason Williams looked like this in 1968?




 :laugh:

Oh my. The years are not so kind to us at all, at all!

You really have sent me carooming into Memory Lane; I loved the hysterically satyrical That Was The Week That Was (oh yeah, I'm old, all right!)--can you believe broadcast television was ever like this? So smart? Look:

From Wikipedia:

January 10, 1964, to May 1965: The pilot featured hosts Henry Fonda and Henry Morgan, guest stars Mike Nichols and Elaine May, and various supporting performers including Gene Hackman. The series had a recurring cast that included David Frost, Henry Morgan, Buck Henry and Alan Alda, with Nancy Ames singing the ever-changing lyrics to the opening theme song; regular contributors included Gloria Steinem, Tom Lehrer and Calvin Trillin. The announcer was Jerry Damon. Also appearing as a guest was Woody Allen, performing some of his stand-up comedy act; the guest star on the final broadcast was Steve Allen. After the series' cancellation, Lehrer recorded a collection of his songs that were used on the show, That Was The Year That Was, which was released by Reprise Records in September 1965 and became a major hit LP.

Wow.

Amazing.

(If I could find the original broadcasts, I wonder if I could now get the clever, clever references that once flew right past my eleven year-old head? Probably not!)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/That_Was_The_Week_That_Was
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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2008, 03:34:49 am »
I couldn't find "That Was the Week That Was" on YouTube.  Imagine!  In this day of instant media gratification.  So then I went to its IMDb page, and posted in its forum, and there were no other posts, about what I hear is a great show.  As they say these days, WTF?

Here are the rest of the amazing cast members, according to IMDb:

Paul Sand    ...   Himself (2 episodes, 1964) 
David Frost    ...   Himself (1 episode, 1964)   
Phyllis Newman    ...   Herself (1 episode, 1964)
Buck Henry    ...   Himself (1 episode, 1964)
Pat Englund    ...   Herself (1 episode, 1964)

Bob Dishy    ...   Himself (1 episode, 1964)
Nancy Ames    ...   Herself (1 episode, 1964)
Alan Alda    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
Steve Allen    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
Woody Allen    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)

Sandy Baron    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
Tom Bosley    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
Roscoe Lee Browne    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
Art Carney    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
Moose Charlap    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)

Betty Comden    ...   Herself (unknown episodes)
Bill Cosby    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
MacIntyre Dixon    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
David Doyle    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
Andrew Duncan    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)   

Stan Freeman    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
Elliott Gould    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
Adolph Green    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
Stanley Grover    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
George Hall    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)

Margaret Hamilton    ...   Herself (unknown episodes)
Kim Hunter    ...   Herself (unknown episodes)
Wally King    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
Mina Kolb    ...   Herself (unknown episodes)
Julius LaRosa    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)   

Richard Libertini    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
Charlie Manna    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
John Marriott    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
Millicent Martin    ...   Herself (unknown episodes)
Elaine May    ...   Herself (unknown episodes)

Bob McFadden    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)   
Audrey Meadows    ...   Herself (unknown episodes)
Doro Merande    ...   Herself (unknown episodes)
Henry Morgan    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
Robert Morse    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)

Mike Nichols    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
Dick Noel    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
Louis Nye    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
'Killer' Joe Piro    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
Tom Poston    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)

Lovelady Powell    ...   Herself (unknown episodes)
Elliott Reid    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
William Rushton    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
Mort Sahl    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)   
Richard Schaal    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)

Allan Sherman    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
Victor Spinetti    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
Leslie J. Stark    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
Larry Storch    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
Burr Tillstrom    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)
Eugene Troobnick    ...   Himself (unknown episodes)


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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2008, 07:20:50 am »
--and the worst is--I can now hear the theme song in my head, incessantly!  :P


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That Was the Real Must-See TV, 30 July 2003
Author: Gary Imhoff ([email protected]) from Washington, DC

TWTWTW, or TW3, had an astounding and brilliant list of regular, semi-regular, and guest performers who did brief comedic commentary on political topics and current events. But it is best remembered for three performers: its impossibly sophisticated "special correspondent," David Frost, who was introduced to American audiences by this show; the beautiful blonde folk singer, Nancy Ames; and puppeteer Burr Tillstrom, previously known almost solely for the children's show Kukla, Fran, and Ollie, whose innovative "hand ballets" have never been duplicated. For two short seasons, this was real "must-see TV."

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Razor-sharp political satire surpassing everything to follow, 10 February 2001
Author: gallifreyent from USA

Some of the brightest minds ever in entertainment were gathered for this furiously funny look at the week's news highlights. "TW3" was a cut above SNL's Weekend Updates, racing ahead of "Not Necessarily The News," and nosing out "The Daily Show" as the best of its kind. Fueled by the players in a period of stunning global events, the players managed both biting commentary and lively entertainment. Bring on the re-runs.

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Humor Comes in Many Forms, 6 March 2008
Author: wayne-496 from United States

This show was groundbreaking to the point of undeniably honest presentation of the parodies it performed, allowing the audience an understanding of the set and the presence of makeup and stage hands. Also, memorable for one episode completely lacking humor dedicated to the assassination of JFK. So much of this early experiment in TV Comedy can be interpreted as a framework for more modern shows like SNL, Colbert Report, and the like. The talent was diverse and intelligent. Tom Lehrer and David Frost contributed much to the format. As far as any criticism that may fall on this show, I don't care much for Country Music and my wife can stare at Monty Python for hours without cracking a smile, but that doesn't mean there isn't brilliant talent and huge entertainment value in both of those. TW3 emerged during a time when TV was experimenting with lots techniques and presentation style as well as cutting edge political humor.

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That Was the Week that Was **** Current Events At its Best, 19 November 2007

Author: edwagreen from United States

A very original, thought provoking show was 1964's was "That Was the Week that Was." It was also referred to as TW3 so as to shorten the title.

The show dealt with political and social commentary on the various news events of the week.

It had a great cast of comedians. Even veteran comedienne Doro Merande was a weekly regular on the shows.

I wonder what this excellent show would be like in today's political world. I guess it would have to kowtow to political correctness.

"That Was the Week that Was, Kennedy and Khrushchev Twist. O what a week that was! That was the week that was." This would be an example of the opening theme of the show as the cast assembled on stage.

For sure, current events was never like this. Nancy Ames and others were just terrific on this show.

I'd love to see this show make a comeback today.


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Like Mark Twain and Will Rogers, THAT WAS THE WEEK THAT WAS (TW3 for Short), Kidded Everybody! , 14 June 2007
Author: John T. Ryan ([email protected]) from Chicago, Illinois, United States

Political Satire has been a staple of comedy spoofing and sketches as far back as the old Vaudevillians and British Music Hall days. So how come both the Original Series, the BBC version and our own NBC Program lasted only one season each? The show used tons of talented people, both in front of Camera and in the support,behind the scenes-you know the Technical Boys. The Political Slant ran in all different directions, as they kidded anyone and everyone, Dems, Reps, Libs, Conservatives all were fair game.

The show made use of song rather than sketch as the main instrument. That meant writing new, fresh songs weekly, one of which would be hours old before air time! T keep up on the current events and fashion songs to spoof these news stories and at same time, be at least a little humorous to an audience would present a nearly impossible task.

Me thinks that is the reason there was no staying power for this format on either side of the Atlantic. Like a Shooting Star, it burned itself out in a brief moment of History. Oh, but what a moment it was!

NOTE:As far as we can tell, there is no VHS or DVD available that has any of the programs available, neither BBC nor NBC. However one of the writers, former M.I.T. Math Professor, Tom Lehrer, did cut a 33 1/3 rpm Record Album of several of his songs from the series. Titled THAT WAS THE YEAR THAT WAS, it dated back to 1964 and came out the next year. It is now available on both cassette and CD on either Warner Brothers or Reprise Labels. Check it out!


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Author: cmndrnineveh from United States

Balderdash! This show was a complete humbug and was nowhere NEAR as funny as some of you guys remember it! What I remember was a pretentious show with lame, nerdy takes on what was going on around the world, with a very SMUG attitude exhibited by all the players! Especially Nancy Ames, (who hated hippies,) who you say was a FOLK singer??? Heh...I bet she didn't work the coffeehouse circuit much after comments she made on a daytime talk show, (it was either Merv Griffin, Steve Allen or Dick Cavett,) about "those smelly beatniks!" All in all, you're being WAAAYYY too kind to this turkey, which only lasted one year, and rightfully so.

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Author: tnsprin-2 from LI, NY

A great ground breaking show (never got to see the UK version). It got pulled not be course of normal lost or ratings. But after it was preempted for too many weeks by a boring political rally for a party. They used a former hack actor who was rewarded for his work with future political support.


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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2008, 11:51:01 am »
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/29/nyregion/29towns.html?hp

From The New York Times:

Our Towns

Back to the Garden: A Woodstock Museum


Visitors to the Museum at Bethel Woods, an homage to the Woodstock Festival.


John Sebastian watches his 1969 self sing “Darling Be Home Soon.”


A hippie bus of the time, decorated in psychedelic colors.

By PETER APPLEBOME

Published: May 29, 2008
BETHEL, N.Y.

A funny thing happened on the magic bus trip back to the tie-dyed land of peace, love and music.

Yes, there were Jimi and Janis and Joe Cocker twitching around in film clips from the famous concert 39 years ago on the rolling meadow that was Max Yasgur’s alfalfa field. There was a real-life hippie bus in psychedelic colors, and displays of a stars-and-stripes suede jacket and love beads next to a minidress and go-go boots ensemble, the latter getup presumably not worn at Woodstock.

John Sebastian and Richie Havens were there to reminisce. They played Canned Heat’s “Going Up the Country” and “The Times They Are a-Changin’” by Bob Dylan.

But somehow “then” kept looping back to “now” at the unveiling Wednesday of the Museum at Bethel Woods, which will open to the public on Monday.

So there was Duke Devlin, famous as the hippie from the Texas Panhandle who came to Woodstock and never left, standing in the bright sun giving his spiel yet again for a German television crew as they waited for two squadrons of reporters in Peter Pan buses to descend on the field where the concert took place.

Stout and tattooed, with long gray hair and beard, Mr. Devlin is the embodiment of the transition of the Woodstock generation into the AARP generation. But he figures that if Woodstock is about nostalgia, it’s about more than nostalgia, too.

“Is it over yet?” he asked. “We’re still here talking. We’ve now got this wonderful museum, but I don’t call it a museum, I call it a time capsule. And without me getting too political, a lot of the same ingredients are still the same — we’ve got a war, we have civil rights, we have women’s issues. Back then, we got sick and tired of being sick and tired. I don’t know if this can be recreated, but something like it can happen again. We’re back in the ’50s, man. The reason we’re all here is because we’re not all there.”

Which is not to say that the museum, housed in a lovely laminated wood structure built by a company that long ago built Mr. Yasgur’s silos, tries to be the personification of the Woodstock ethos, whatever that was. Centered on a 6,728-square-foot permanent gallery, it’s part of Alan Gerry’s re-creation of Woodstock not as a vehicle for peace and love but as a vehicle for Sullivan County’s economic development. The site has become a $100 million arts center with a 15,000-seat outdoor performance space.

And along with voices marveling about how much fun they had in the mud or how Woodstock changed the world, we get to hear old Nixon-era stalwarts lambasting all that Woodstock has come to stand for. “The ’60s were just a terrible time for the country,” says former Attorney General Edwin Meese III, the biggest downer in a chorus of voices, yea and nay, that museumgoers hear after a 21-minute film of music from the concert. “It was the age of selfishness. It was the age of self-indulgence. It was the age of anti-authority, an age in which people did all kind of wrong things. That was the start, really, of the drug problem in the United States.”

But yea or nay, and it’s mostly yea, the most striking thing about the museum is the way that in the end, it’s less about the famous concert and yoga in the mud than about the era that the concert has come to represent.

“When I came to this project, there was this idea to memorialize the concert, which was about as far as it had gone,” said Patrick Gallagher, president of the firm that designed the museum. “And I said, ‘If it’s just a celebration of a celebration, what’s the purpose?’ And the more we peeled back the onion the more it was clear that the idea wanted to be Woodstock as the culminating moment, the capstone of the 1960s. We had to look back to look forward.”

So about 60 percent of the museum is about the politics and culture and music of the ’60s: pillbox hats, Elvis, the Bay of Pigs, the Beatles, civil rights, the assassinations of John and Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr., and Neil Armstrong walking on the moon. And the rest is a quite vivid re-creation of the chaotic and unlikely process that led to 500,000 people shouting, “No rain, no rain, no rain,” during the summer downpours, Jimi Hendrix’s legendary performance of “The Star-Spangled Banner,” and all the rest.

As for the music, Mr. Sebastian said that in the end, some was revelatory and a lot was something of a mess. “No matter what we say after the fact, most of us disliked our performances at Woodstock,” he said. “I can find you a quick dozen people who would look back on that performance and say, ‘Oh, man, I bit the big one.’ ” But as for the event, he said, he went home knowing that he had been a part of history.

He wonders why, if people love Woodstock so much, they don’t find ways to act on the things about it that matter. “It evaporated so fast,” he said. “One minute we were there and the next we were in Reagan-land.”

Still, he said, as one of the voices in the exhibit: “I guess it did give you the illusion of infinite possibilities. And maybe that’s the part that we have to say bye-bye to. Because that can’t be for your whole life or for every moment in history that you might happen to live through.”

As for saying bye-bye to Woodstock, not a chance. The museum opens a year before the 40th anniversary, probably the last big milestone at which most of the musicians will be able to perform without walkers. They’re just beginning to draw up plans, but Mr. Meese notwithstanding, don’t expect it to come and go quietly.

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Ang Lee will be adapting the book Taking Woodstock: A True Story of a Riot, a Concert, and a Life by Elliot Tiber and Tom Monte into the film entitled Taking Woodstock. The film will follow the life of a Greenwich Village interior designer who headed the Bethel Chamber of Commerce and issued the permit for the legendary 1969 Woodstock concert.
http://www.filmstalker.co.uk/archives/2008/04/stalked_ang_lees_woodstock_the.html

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According to Variety, Taking Woodstock will be based on the memoir of a motel owner who found a new venue for a music festival in Bethel, New York and paved the way for the legendary 1969 concert. The project is based on Elliot Tiber's Taking Woodstock: A True Story of a Riot, Concert, and a Life, and will focus on Tiber and the "colourful ensemble" around him. This will allow Lee to avoid going down the well-trodden route of concentrating on the epochal concert itself - and also bypass those potentially expensive music licensing deals.

Taking Woodstock is set to reunite Lee with his longtime writer James Schamus, who also scripted the likes of The Ice Storm, Ride with the Devil and Lust, Caution.
http://film.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2275585,00.html

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Now Lee is tackling that most iconographic American event of the late '60s, Woodstock, as a comedy.

Lee's frequent screenplay collaborator (and Focus Features CEO) James Schamus is adapting Elliot Tiber's memoir "Taking Woodstock: A True Story of a Riot, A Concert, and A Life," released last year by Square One Publishers.

Tiber, then an interior designer in Greenwich Village, also was involved in the family business, a Catskills motel. As its part-time manager, he had become the local town's issuer of event permits, granting himself one annually for a small music festival. When he heard that the planned Woodstock concert had its own permit denied by a neighboring town, he called to offer his own. Soon, half a million people were on their way to White Lake, N.Y., and Tiber found himself swept up in a generation-defining experience.

Today, Tiber is a professor of comedy writing and performance. He should be ecstatic over who has been tabbed to direct.
http://www.charleston.net/news/2008/may/08/ang_lee_direct_woodstock_comedy39959/

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Focus Features Chief Executive Officer James Schamus confirmed the 1969-set film's active development. Schamus is adapting Elliot Tiber's memoir "Taking Woodstock: A True Story of a Riot, A Concert, and A Life" for the big screen.

The book, published last year by Square One Publishers, was written by Tiber with Tom Monte.

"Elliot's exuberant and heartfelt story is a perfect window onto the Woodstock experience, exploring an inspiring historical moment when liberation and freedom were in the air," Schamus said in a statement.
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Entertainment/2008/04/30/ang_lee_set_on_taking_woodstock/8327/



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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2008, 03:57:26 pm »
This Friday will be the 40th anniversary of the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy.

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« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2008, 02:57:17 am »
Teddy Kennedy's eulogy of his brother Bobby
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« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2008, 08:53:35 am »
Thanks for the good cry, Elle.  I had never heard that before. 

I wonder if Ted wrote that himself.

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« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2008, 12:29:29 pm »
Thanks for the good cry, Elle.  I had never heard that before. 

I wonder if Ted wrote that himself.


I don't know.  It's really noble though.  What a funny, incredible mix those Kennedys are.  I was also going to post Bobby's lovely speech about John at the Democratic convention, and Bobby's speech to the crowd telling that Martin Luther King had just died.  I'll go look now.  Thank you YouTube.

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« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2008, 12:49:47 pm »
Bobby Kennedy's tribute to his brother John at the 1964 Democratic Convention

(I'm still looking for a film of this.  I haven't seen it for a few years, but I remember the most exquisite looks passing over Bobby's face as he sees the manifested love for his brother John from the Convention delegates.)

Mr. Chairman, I wish to speak just for a few moments.

I first want to thank all of you, the delegates to the Democratic National Convention and the supporters of the Democratic Party, for all that you did for President John F. Kennedy.

I want to -- I want to -- I want to express my appreciation to you for the effort that you made on his behalf at the convention four years ago, the efforts that you made on his behalf for his election in November of 1960, and perhaps most importantly, the encouragement and the strength that you gave him after he was elected President of the United States.

I know that it was a source of the greatest strength to him to know that there were thousands of people all over the United States who were together with him, dedicated to certain principles and to certain ideals.

No matter what talent an individual possesses, no matter what energy he might have, no matter what -- how much integrity and honesty he might have, if he is by himself, and particularly a political figure, he can accomplish very little. But if he's  sustained, as President Kennedy was, by the Democratic Party all over the United States, dedicated to the same things that he was attempting to accomplish, you  can accomplish a great deal.

No one knew that really more than President John F. Kennedy. He used to take great pride in telling the trip that Thomas Jefferson and James Madison made up the Hudson River in 1800 on a botanical expedition searching for butterflies; that they ended up down in New York City and that they formed the Democratic Party.

He took great pride in the fact that the Democratic Party was the oldest political Party in the world, and he knew that this linkage of Madison and Jefferson with the leaders in New York combined the North and South, and combined the industrial areas of the country with the rural farms -- that this combination was always dedicated to progress.

All of our Presidents have been dedicated to progress: with Thomas Jefferson in the Louisiana Purchase, and when Thomas Jefferson also realized that the United States could not remain on the Eastern Seaboard and sent Lewis and Clark to the West Coast; of Andrew Jackson; of Woodrow Wilson; for Franklin Roosevelt who saved our citizens who were in great despair because of the financial crisis; of Harry Truman who not only spoke but acted for freedom.

So that when he [John F. Kennedy] became President he not only had his own principles or his own ideals but he had the strength of the Democratic Party. So that when he President he wanted to do something for the mentally ill and the mentally retarded; for those who were not covered by Social Security; for those who were not receiving an adequate minimum wage; for those who did not have adequate housing; for our elderly people who had difficulty paying their medical bills; for our fellow citizens who are not white who had difficulty living in this society. To all this he dedicated himself.

But he realized also that in order for us to make progress here at home, that we had to be strong overseas, that our military strength had to be strong. He said one time, "Only when our arms are sufficient, without doubt, can we be certain" of doubt -- "without doubt, that they will never have to be employed."¹ And so when we had the crisis with the Soviet Union and the Communist Bloc in October of 1962, the Soviet Union withdrew their missiles and the bombers from Cuba.

But even beyond that, his idea really was that this country should -- and this world, really, should be a better place when we turned it over to the next generation than when we inherited it from the last generation. And that's why -- And that's why with all of the other efforts that he made -- with the Test Ban Treaty, which was done with Averell Harriman, was so important to him.

And that's why he made such an effort -- And that's why he made such an effort and so was committed to the young people not only of the United States but the young people of the world.

And in all of these efforts you were there -- all of you. And when there were difficulties, you sustained him. When there were periods of crisis, you stood beside him. When there were periods of happiness, you laughed with him. And when there [were] periods of sorrow, you comforted him.

I realize that as an individual that we can't just look back, that we must look forward. When I think of President Kennedy, I think of what Shakespeare said in Romeo and Juliet:

When he shall die take him and cut him out into the stars and he shall make the face of heaven so fine that all the world will be in love with night and pay no worship to the garish sun.

And I realize as an individual and really -- I realize that as an individual even more importantly, for our political Party and for the country, that we can't just look to the past, but we must look to the future.

And so I join with you in realizing that what has been started four years ago -- what everyone here started four years ago -- that that's to be sustained; that that's to be continued.

The same effort and the same energy and the same dedication that was given to President John F. Kennedy must be given to President Lyndon Johnson and Hubert Humphrey. If we make that commitment, it will not only be for the benefit of the Democratic Party, but far more importantly, it will be for the benefit of this whole country.

When we look at this film we might think that President Kennedy once said that:

"We have the capacity to make this the best generation in the history of mankind, or make it the last."

If we do our duty, if we meet our responsibilities and our obligations, not just as Democrats, but as American citizens in our local cities and towns and farms and our states and in the country as a whole, then this country is going to be the best generation in the history of mankind.

And I think that if we dedicate ourselves, as he frequently did to all of you when he spoke, when he quoted from Robert Frost -- and said it applied to himself--but that we could really apply to the Democratic Party and to all of us as individuals -- that:

"The woods are lovely, dark and deep, but I have promises to keep and miles to go before I sleep, and miles to go before I sleep."

Mrs. Kennedy has asked that this film be dedicated to all of you and to all the others throughout the country who helped make John F. Kennedy President of the United States.

I thank you.

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« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2008, 12:50:24 pm »
Bobby Kennedy informing a crowd of mostly black supporters that Martin Luther King had just been assassinated.

(Presumably this is completely extemporaneous.  Incredibly eloquent, it is a lovely, sad tribute to the importance of bridging the differences between people.  He quotes Aeschylus to a group of people who probably didn't have a lot of education.  Is this hubris?  Or a profound respect for all people?)

Warning - after the speech is over, and after some words in Italian appear on the screen, right near the end is attached the sounds of Bobby Kennedy himself being shot, as described in the moment by the reporter who had just been interviewing Bobby as they walked through the back kitchen of the Ambassador Hotel.  If you want to avoid this, just stop watching during the silent Italian words.

[youtube=425,350]http://youtube.com/watch?v=jPYNb4ex6Ko[/youtube]

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« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2008, 08:52:59 pm »
From Elle's soberly profound, there's--the ridiculous? Well, no, it's the 60's, and it's art--

(And we'll have to go back to the sober profundity--on Friday, especially--)


From The New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/04/arts/design/04kelley.html?hp


Alton Kelley, Poster Designer, Is Dead


Alton Kelley, 1967
Alton Kelley, whose psychedelic concert posters for artists like The Grateful Dead, Jimi Hendrix, and Big Brother and the Holding Company helped define the visual style of the 1960s counterculture, died on Sunday at his home in Petaluma, Calif. He was 67.



Alton Kelley, left, and his longtime collaborator, Stanley Mouse, in 1967.

Mr. Kelley and his longtime collaborator, Stanley Mouse, combined sinuous Art Nouveau lettering and outré images plucked from sources near and far to create the visual equivalent of an acid trip.



A 19th-century engraving from “The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam” inspired a famous poster for a Grateful Dead concert at the Avalon Ballroom in 1966 that showed a skeleton wearing a garland of roses on its skull and holding a wreath of roses on its left arm.



"Book of the Deadheads"

The Grateful Dead later adopted this image as its emblem. Mr. Kelley and Mr. Mouse also designed several of the group’s album covers, including “American Beauty” and “Workingman’s Dead.”



A Grateful Dead poster for a concert at the Sound and Light Theater in Gizeh, Egypt, designed by Mr. Kelley.

Mr. Kelley was born in Houlton, Me., and grew up in Connecticut, where his parents moved to work in defense plants during World War II. His mother, a former schoolteacher, encouraged him to study art, and for a time he attended art schools in Philadelphia and New York, but his real passion was racing motorcycles and hot rods. He applied his artistic training to painting pinstripes on motorcycle gas tanks.



A poster designed by Mr. Mouse and Mr. Kelley for a headlining appearance by Howlin' Wolf at the Avalon Ballroom, San Francisco, Calif., 1966.

After working as a welder at the Sikorsky helicopter plant in Stratford, Conn., he moved to San Francisco in 1964, settling into the Haight-Ashbury neighborhood. With a group of friends he helped stage concerts at the Red Dog Saloon in Virginia City, Nev., by the Charlatans, a electric folk-rock band. On returning to San Francisco, he became a founding member of the Family Dog, a loose confederation of artists, poets, musicians and other free spirits who put on the some of the earliest psychedelic dance concerts, first at the Longshoremen’s Hall and later at the Avalon Ballroom.



A poster designed by Mr. Mouse and Mr. Kelley.

Mr. Kelley was in charge of promoting the concerts with posters and flyers, but his drafting ability was weak. That shortcoming became less of a problem in early 1966, when he teamed up with Stanley Miller, a hot-rod artist from Detroit who worked under the last name Mouse. The two formed Mouse Studios, with Mr. Kelley contributing layout and images and Mr. Mouse doing the distinctive lettering and drafting work. Often, they took trips to the public library in a search for images from books, magazines and photographs.



A poster designed by Mr. Mouse and Mr. Kelley for a headlining appearances by Big Brother and the Holding Company and Bo Diddley, 1966.



One of their first posters, for a concert headlined by Big Brother and the Holding Company, reproduced the logo for Zig-Zag cigarette papers, used widely for rolling marijuana joints.



From the left, Victor Moscoso, Wes Wilson, Mr. Mouse, Mr. Kelley and Rick Griffin.

From 1966 to 1969, Mr. Kelley worked on more than 150 posters for concerts at the Avalon Ballroom and the Fillmore, publicizing the most famous bands and artists of the era, among them Quicksilver Messenger Service, the Butterfield Blues Band and Moby Grape, as well as the Dead, Big Brother and the Holding Company, Jimi Hendrix, and Country Joe and the Fish. They created three posters for concerts headlined by Bo Diddley, who died on Monday.



“Kelley had the unique ability to translate the music being played into these amazing images that captured the spirit of who we were and what the music was all about,” said the Grateful Dead drummer Mickey Hart. “He was a visual alchemist — skulls and roses, skeletons in full flight, cryptic alphabets, nothing was too strange for his imagination to conjure.”

By WILLIAM GRIMES
Published: June 4, 2008


Alton Kelley, whose psychedelic concert posters for artists like the Grateful Dead, Jimi Hendrix, and Big Brother and the Holding Company helped define the visual style of the 1960s counterculture, died on Sunday at his home in Petaluma, Calif. He was 67.

The cause was complications of osteoporosis, said his wife, Marguerite Trousdale Kelley.

Mr. Kelley and his longtime collaborator, Stanley Mouse, combined sinuous Art Nouveau lettering and outré images plucked from sources near and far to create the visual equivalent of an acid trip. A 19th-century engraving from “The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam” inspired a famous poster for a Grateful Dead concert at the Avalon Ballroom in 1966 that showed a skeleton wearing a garland of roses on its skull and holding a wreath of roses on its left arm.

The Grateful Dead later adopted this image as its emblem. Mr. Kelley and Mr. Mouse also designed several of the group’s album covers, including “American Beauty” and “Workingman’s Dead.”

Mr. Kelley was born in Houlton, Me., and grew up in Connecticut, where his parents moved to work in defense plants during World War II. His mother, a former schoolteacher, encouraged him to study art, and for a time he attended art schools in Philadelphia and New York, but his real passion was racing motorcycles and hot rods. He applied his artistic training to painting pinstripes on motorcycle gas tanks.

After working as a welder at the Sikorsky helicopter plant in Stratford, Conn., he moved to San Francisco in 1964, settling into the Haight-Ashbury neighborhood. With a group of friends he helped stage concerts at the Red Dog Saloon in Virginia City, Nev., by the Charlatans, a electric folk-rock band. On returning to San Francisco, he became a founding member of the Family Dog, a loose confederation of artists, poets, musicians and other free spirits who put on the some of the earliest psychedelic dance concerts, first at the Longshoremen’s Hall and later at the Avalon Ballroom.

Mr. Kelley was in charge of promoting the concerts with posters and flyers, but his drafting ability was weak. That shortcoming became less of a problem in early 1966, when he teamed up with Stanley Miller, a hot-rod artist from Detroit who worked under the last name Mouse. The two formed Mouse Studios, with Mr. Kelley contributing layout and images and Mr. Mouse doing the distinctive lettering and drafting work. Often, they took trips to the public library in a search for images from books, magazines and photographs.

“Stanley and I had no idea what we were doing,” Mr. Kelley told The San Francisco Chronicle last year. “But we went ahead and looked at American Indian stuff, Chinese stuff, Art Nouveau, Art Déco, Modern, Bauhaus, whatever.”

One of their first posters, for a concert headlined by Big Brother and the Holding Company, reproduced the logo for Zig-Zag cigarette papers, used widely for rolling marijuana joints.

“We were paranoid that the police would bust us or that Zig-Zag would bust us,” Mr. Mouse said.

From 1966 to 1969, Mr. Kelley worked on more than 150 posters for concerts at the Avalon Ballroom and the Fillmore, publicizing the most famous bands and artists of the era, among them Quicksilver Messenger Service, the Butterfield Blues Band and Moby Grape, as well as the Dead, Big Brother and the Holding Company, Jimi Hendrix, and Country Joe and the Fish. They created three posters for concerts headlined by Bo Diddley, who died on Monday.

With time, Mr. Kelley’s drawing improved, and the partners virtually fused into a poster-generating unit.

“Kelley would work on the left side of the drawing table and Mouse on the Right,” said Paul Grushkin, the author of “The Art of Rock: Posters From Presley to Punk” and a longtime friend of both men. “They turned out a poster a week.”

At the time, the posters were put up on telephone poles. Everyone who attended a concert at the Avalon received a free poster advertising the next show on the way out the door. Some were sold in head shops for a few dollars. Today, mint-condition posters by Mr. Kelley and Mr. Mouse can command prices of $5,000 or more.

With the waning of the 1960s, Mr. Kelley and Mr. Mouse diversified. They formed Monster, a T-shirt company, in the mid-1970s. They also designed the Pegasus-image cover for the Steve Miller album “Book of Dreams” and several albums for Journey in the 1980s.

In their final collaboration, in March of this year, they contributed the cover art for the program at the induction ceremony at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. On his own, Mr. Kelley designed posters and created hot-rod paintings that he transferred to T-shirts.

In addition to his wife, Mr. Kelley is survived by three children, Patty Kelley of San Diego, Yossarian Kelley of Seattle and China Bacosa of Herald, Calif.; two grandchildren; and his mother, Annie Kelley, and a sister, Kathy Verespy, both of Trumbull, Conn.

“Kelley had the unique ability to translate the music being played into these amazing images that captured the spirit of who we were and what the music was all about,” said the Grateful Dead drummer Mickey Hart. “He was a visual alchemist — skulls and roses, skeletons in full flight, cryptic alphabets, nothing was too strange for his imagination to conjure.”



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« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2008, 07:57:34 am »
Also in the news this week, as reported in other threads in this site, YSL--thought I'd add this photo just because it seems so period, and so right--




The French designer Yves Saint Laurent is flanked by Betty Catroux (left) and Loulou de la Falaise
outside his new London boutique in 1969.
(Wesley/Keystone/Getty Images).




It’s easy to forget that the concepts of ready-to-wear clothing and men’s wear were practically unheard of before him — as were licensing deals and “out” gay designers.

Absolutely. The fact that the French have been celebrating this past month the May 1968 riots is sort of brought home by thinking of Saint Laurent in that era. I was very young and even though I wasn’t actually demonstrating, I just felt that Saint Laurent was so in tune with what I and my generation wanted to wear and do. It was that sense of freedom — breaking through the barriers of convention, of class, of all sorts of things. And the clothes just went with it.



Taken from an article in 'T Magazine,' The New York Times,
"Suzy Menkes Remembers Yves Saint Laurent," by Horacio Silva.
http://themoment.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/02/suzy-menkes-remembers-yves-saint-laurent/
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« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2008, 08:39:00 am »
I love that poster, with the hand of Army person holding the mouth of the youth !

Is that also to-day too, since kids have drugs and guns at school, instead of teachers ??


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« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2008, 07:42:50 am »





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« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2008, 05:05:27 pm »
At least, this Kennedy did something for humanity !

Where are such persons to-day ? The mafia and other criminals are too rampant, and the USA, Canada and others do nothing to stop them - as Italy wants more done in America towards that crime family at least !!

Merci/thanks to our other soldiers for D-day to-day June 6th and other places before that, then, and now, fighting for our freedom !!

Great pic !

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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2008, 01:37:44 am »
After we talked about "That Was the Week That Was" here, I went to its IMDb forum and posted if anyone knew where to find it.  I just got a reply:


How can I see this show?   
  by Ellemeno   (Tue May 27 2008 19:22:25)   
I am just a little too young to have seen this show, but some people say it was one of the best things ever on television, and the cast is astonishing. It's not on YouTube. Any ideas on how to view it?


Re: How can I see this show?   
  by eljefe320   30 minutes ago (Sun Jun 8 2008 22:02:57)      
You can't. When NBC offered the tapes back to Leland Hayward he turned them down and they were subsequently either erased or thrown out. Very little if anything exists from this show and it won't turn up anywhere as there is nothing from the show in private hands.


Re: How can I see this show?   
  by Ellemeno   5 seconds ago (Sun Jun 8 2008 22:33:40)   
That seems impossible - I don't mean this in an "I doubt you" kind of way, just that to think that something so highly thought of could simply be gone is astonishing. Thanks for your reply.


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« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2008, 06:44:49 am »
Elle, you are indefatigable--I love it!

I'm not joking when I say that I now have TWTWTW (TW3) theme song in my brain whether I want it or not--I am hearing the fast paced musical cues, the segues, and the imperious, fluting voice of David Frost doing a parody of his own regular parodistical High-Church of England voice, a version of "Mawwidge today!" Frost's father was a minister!

This soundtrack in my brain is inconvenient if hilarious--no actual content, you understand, just the sound of it, more than 45 years later (the right lobe of the brain is just doing its job, I guess)!

By the way--Frost was one of the producers of TW3--I wonder if he managed to keep some of the shows... ::)

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Why, I wonder?

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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJMqHDynnoY&NR=1[/youtube]
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« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2008, 08:13:03 pm »
Ha!

Obviously I was thinking about the Zeitgeist--and then the Zeitgeist found me--

Today, in a small shop on Washington and West 11th Street (exactly opposite The Spotted Pig), I found this Trovata '68 tee-shirt on sale!

Then when I took it home--




--there was an attached muslin drawstring bag, tiny, and inside that, I found this rawhide thong-necklace with a clenched fist (below)--

Right on! Cool!





Then, suddenly--uh oh.

I remember this very old SNL film short that first ran during the mid-to late 70's, thirty years ago--it showed very real, very elderly people in a Florida 'Senior' Center, with (assumed, mocking) names like 'Snowflake, 'Dawn' and 'Rainbow,' each telling about the 'Old Days' of Free Love and LSD--

(Should I change my name to 'snowflake?')

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« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2008, 09:20:42 pm »
Then, suddenly--uh oh.

I remember this very old SNL film short that first ran during the mid-to late 70's, thirty years ago--it showed very real, very elderly people in a Florida 'Senior' Center, with (assumed, mocking) names like 'Snowflake, 'Dawn' and 'Rainbow,' each telling about the 'Old Days' of Free Love and LSD--

(Should I change my name to 'snowflake?')



Aw, John, I think "Moonbeam" would suit  you better.  ;)

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« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2008, 09:36:21 pm »
Aw, John, I think "Moonbeam" would suit  you better.  ;)

Ha!

Al Capp's Moonbeam McSwine (the girl above) and friend (oink! below):



(I'm thinking I'm looking more like the friend than Moonbeam--)

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« Reply #29 on: June 21, 2008, 03:24:56 am »





You wear that, and those who don't know what it means'll be telling you you look darn good for 68 years old, snowflake.



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« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2008, 07:56:37 am »
You wear that, and those who don't know what it means'll be telling you you look darn good for 68 years old, snowflake.

I'll tell'em I'm actually 89, and I look even better! (I wear my number upside down so I can remind myself--)

Talk about doubletake double entendre--I have just noticed
this Al Capp cartoon caricature again--


Look, the face of that pig is the face of Al Capp himself!


Why, that dirty old man--!   ::)

Ha! (Well, my right lobe is functioning, anyway--)
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« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2008, 01:05:02 am »
On Saturday, August 16, 2008, a couple of old hippies, John and Meryl,

went to the Delacorte Theater in New York's Central Park to see the 40th Anniversary of--

Hair

(And we learned that some of the castmembers of the 1967 production were in the audience that night--very nice!



The Delacorte Theater in Central Park (from the top of Belvedere Castle)



The Delacorte Theater in Central Park (Belvedere Castle behind)



The cast of Hair at the Delacorte Theater



The Tribe



Will Swenson ("Berger") and Tribe



Will Swenson ("Berger"), Jonathan Groff ("Claude") and Tribe



Jonathan Groff ("Claude"), Darius Nichols ("Hud") and Will Swenson ("Berger")



Patina Renea Miller ("Dionne") and Tribe sing "Aquarius"



Caren Lyn Manuel ("Sheila") and Tribe sing "I Believe in Love"



Kacie Sheik ("Jeanie") and Jonathan Groff ("Claude")



Jonathan Groff ("Claude") singing the title song, "Hair"



Allison Case ("Crissy") singing "Frank Mills"



Tommar Wilson (Tribe), Will Swenson ("Berger") and Bryce Ryness ("Woof")
sing "Don't Put It Down"



Jonathan Groff ("Claude") and Brandon Pearson (Tribe)


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« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2008, 03:37:37 am »
I have vivid memories of going to see the stage play Hair.

It was July 1970, in Sydney.

 My husband and I made a last minute decison to go go and see it and got to the theatre only ten minutes before show time.  Hubby said he would go and park the car, while I went to the ticket office to buy the tickets. As I walked up to the ticket office, I was aproached by two American Marines.....at the time, Sydney was a very popular place for American servicemen to take R&R leave from Vietnam.......they asked me if I wanted to see the show, and I said I was just about to buy tickets for me and my husband. They handed me two tickets, and said, have these.

Apparently they had bought four tickets, two for themselves and two for their dates who apparently had not turned up, which was quite sad. We ended up sitting next to them in the theatre.  We were planning to ask them if they wanted to go for a drink afterwards, but unfortunately they did not return after intermission.

Whenever I hear the music of Hair, I always remember that night, and those American marines.
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« Reply #33 on: August 18, 2008, 08:03:47 am »
I had to share this with someone cause it is just too funny and actually too unbelievable. The TV actually said that this song came out in 1967, but I suppose that is close enough to 1968. I was at my parents house this weekend turning through the TV channels. I was going through the music stations and came across one that said Oldies or something like that. They were playing "Light My Fire" by The Doors. My father was doing something and remarked that that was "really some music." I said yeah that is a classic song. He said, "It sure doesn't sound like anything classical to me." I said, "It's not classical, it is a classic song." He said, "Well it sure is lousy music if that is what they want to call it." I said, "Well it is not considered lousy music, have you never heard that song before?" He said, "No, the music they put out anymore doesn't sound like music to me." I said, "Look at the date, that song came out in 1967." Anyway, I was a little surprised that he didn't know what the song was. I think his whole life was so centered around work and making it in business that he never had any idea what was going on with anything else. Of course, he had a similar reaction once when "Ramblin' Man" by The Allman Brothers came on the radio not long ago. His comments about that were he didn't see how all this screaming these people did anymore could be considered music  :laugh:

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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2008, 12:32:14 pm »
John, you are a true channeler of the 60's, and you're even five years younger than me!  I must have slept a lot as I went through high school and college.  ;)

Thanks for the great "Hair" pics, and of course for spending all day in line getting the so-called free tickets.  I'm glad to see your one illicit snapshot came out, despite the usher's stern looks.  ;D

I was hoarse as a hog after belting out the high part of "Let the Sun Shine" in chest voice!  :P
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« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2008, 01:58:34 pm »
I thought this would be interesting to include in this thread:

Top 100 songs of 1968 according to Billboard magazine

01. Hey Jude » Beatles
02. Love Is Blue » Paul Mauriat
03. Honey » Bobby Goldsboro
04. (Sittin' On) The Dock Of The Bay » Otis Redding
05. People Got To Be Free » Rascals
06. Sunshine Of Your Love » Cream
07. This Guy's In Love With You » Herb Alpert
08. The Good, The Bad And The Ugly » Hugo Montenegro
09. Mrs. Robinson » Simon & Garfunkel
10. Tighten Up » Archie Bell & The Drells
11. Harper Valley P.T.A. » Jeannie C. Riley
12. Little Green Apples » O.C. Smith
13. Mony, Mony » Tommy James & The Shondells
14. Hello, I Love You » Doors
15. Young Girl » Gary Puckett & The Union Gap
16. Cry Like A Baby » Box Tops
17. Stoned Soul Picnic » Fifth Dimension
18. Grazing In The Grass » Hugh Masekela
19. Midnight Confessions » Grass Roots
20. Dance To The Music » Sly & The Family Stone
21. The Horse » Cliff Nobles & Co.
22. I Wish It Would Rain » Temptations
23. La-La Means I Love You » Delfonics
24. Turn Around, Look At Me » Vogues
25. Judy In Disguise (With Glasses) » John Fred & His Playboy Band
26. Spooky » Classics IV
27. Love Child » Diana Ross & The Supremes
28. Angel Of The Morning » Merrilee Rush
29. The Ballad Of Bonnie And Clyde » Georgie Fame
30. Those Were The Days » Mary Hopkin
31. Born To Be Wild » Steppenwolf
32. Cowboys To Girls » Intruders
33. Simon Says » 1910 Fruitgum Company
34. Lady Willpower » Gary Puckett & The Union Gap
35. A Beautiful Morning » Rascals
36. The Look Of Love » Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66
37. Hold Me Tight » Johnny Nash
38. Yummy, Yummy, Yummy » Ohio Express
39. Fire » Crazy World Of Arthur Brown
40. Love Is All Around » Troggs
41. Playboy » Gene & Debbe
42. (Theme From) Valley Of The Dolls » Dionne Warwick
43. Classical Gas » Mason Williams
44. Slip Away » Clarence Carter
45. Girl Watcher » O'Kaysions
46. (Sweet Sweet Baby) Since You've Been Gone » Aretha Franklin
47. Green Tambourine » Lemon Pipers
48. 1, 2, 3, Red Light » 1910 Fruitgum Company
49. Reach Out Of The Darkness » Friend & Lover
50. Jumpin' Jack Flash » Rolling Stones
51. MacArthur Park » Richard Harris
52. Light My Fire » Jose Feliciano
53. I Love You » People
54. Take Time To Know Her » Percy Sledge
55. Pictures Of Matchstick Men » Status Quo
56. Summertime Blues » Blue Cheer
57. Ain't Nothing Like The Real Thing » Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell
58. I Got The Feelin' » James Brown & The Famous Flames
59. I've Gotta Get A Message To You » Bee Gees
60. Lady Madonna » Beatles
61. Hurdy Gurdy Man » Donovan
62. Magic Carpet Ride » Steppenwolf
63. Bottle Of Wine » Fireballs
64. Stay In My Corner » Dells
65. Soul Serenade » Willie Mitchell
66. Delilah » Tom Jones
67. Nobody But Me » Human Beinz
68. I Thank You » Sam & Dave
69. The Fool On The Hill » Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66
70. Sky Pilot » Eric Burdon & The Animals
71. Indian Lake » Cowsills
72. I Wonder What She's Doing Tonight » Tommy Boyce & Bobby Hart
73. Over You » Gary Puckett & The Union Gap
74. Goin' Out Of My Head / Can't Take My Eyes Off You » Lettermen
75. Shoo-Bee-Doo-Be-Doo-Da-Day » Stevie Wonder
76. The Unicorn » Irish Rovers
77. (You Keep Me) Hangin' On » Vanilla Fudge
78. Revolution » Beatles
79. Woman, Woman » Gary Puckett & The Union Gap
80. Elenore » Turtles
81. White Room » Cream
82. You're All I Need To Get By » Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell
83. Baby, Now That I've Found You » Foundations
84. Sweet Inspiration » Sweet Inspirations
85. If You Can Want » Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
86. Cab Driver » Mills Brothers
87. Time Has Come Today » Chambers Brothers
88. Do You Know The Way To San Jose » Dionne Warwick
89. Scarborough Fair / Canticle » Simon & Garfunkel
90. Say It Loud I'm Black And I'm Proud » James Brown & The Famous Flames
91. The Mighty Quinn » Manfred Mann
92. Here Comes The Judge » Shorty Long
93. I Say A Little Prayer » Aretha Franklin
94. Think » Aretha Franklin
95. Sealed With A Kiss » Gary Lewis & The Playboys
96. Piece Of My Heart » Big Brother & The Holding Company
97. Suzie Q. » Creedence Clearwater Revival
98. Bend Me Shape » American Breed
99. Hey, Western Union Man » Jerry Butler
100. Never Give You Up » Jerry Butler

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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2008, 05:22:42 pm »
Wow, that was fun, Jack.  Thanks.

I turned 5 in 1968, but I know most of those songs.  In fact, #76 holds a special place in my heart, as it was the first 45 I ever owned (and I still have it!):  The Unicorn by the Irish Rovers.  It kinda stands out as an odd duck amongst all the other rock and pop hits.

Now this says 1968 to me:

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« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2008, 06:21:01 pm »
Thank you so much for sharing your and Meryl's Hairy experience with us, John. Those are totally wonderful pictures! And thanks for the Top 100 list of 1968. These days, are there still 100 songs that are published in one year? I wonder! So many of those made the memories rush back!!

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« Reply #38 on: August 18, 2008, 06:28:04 pm »
My goodness! What an amazing year for music! I turned 10 that May. Here's what I remember:

01. Hey Jude » Beatles
02. Love Is Blue » Paul Mauriat
03. Honey » Bobby Goldsboro
04. (Sittin' On) The Dock Of The Bay » Otis Redding
05. People Got To Be Free » Rascals
06. Sunshine Of Your Love » Cream
07. This Guy's In Love With You » Herb Alpert
08. The Good, The Bad And The Ugly » Hugo Montenegro
09. Mrs. Robinson » Simon & Garfunkel
11. Harper Valley P.T.A. » Jeannie C. Riley (I think I still have the 45 of this somewhere!)
12. Little Green Apples » O.C. Smith
13. Mony, Mony » Tommy James & The Shondells
14. Hello, I Love You » Doors
15. Young Girl » Gary Puckett & The Union Gap
20. Dance To The Music » Sly & The Family Stone
25. Judy In Disguise (With Glasses) » John Fred & His Playboy Band
26. Spooky » Classics IV
27. Love Child » Diana Ross & The Supremes
28. Angel Of The Morning » Merrilee Rush
30. Those Were The Days » Mary Hopkin
31. Born To Be Wild » Steppenwolf
33. Simon Says » 1910 Fruitgum Company
34. Lady Willpower » Gary Puckett & The Union Gap
36. The Look Of Love » Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66
38. Yummy, Yummy, Yummy » Ohio Express
43. Classical Gas » Mason Williams
50. Jumpin' Jack Flash » Rolling Stones
51. MacArthur Park » Richard Harris
52. Light My Fire » Jose Feliciano
56. Summertime Blues » Blue Cheer
57. Ain't Nothing Like The Real Thing » Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell
60. Lady Madonna » Beatles
62. Magic Carpet Ride » Steppenwolf
66. Delilah » Tom Jones
69. The Fool On The Hill » Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66
71. Indian Lake » Cowsills
73. Over You » Gary Puckett & The Union Gap
74. Goin' Out Of My Head / Can't Take My Eyes Off You » Lettermen
76. The Unicorn » Irish Rovers
77. (You Keep Me) Hangin' On » Vanilla Fudge
78. Revolution » Beatles
79. Woman, Woman » Gary Puckett & The Union Gap
88. Do You Know The Way To San Jose » Dionne Warwick
89. Scarborough Fair / Canticle » Simon & Garfunkel
91. The Mighty Quinn » Manfred Mann
93. I Say A Little Prayer » Aretha Franklin
95. Sealed With A Kiss » Gary Lewis & The Playboys
97. Suzie Q. » Creedence Clearwater Revival
100. Never Give You Up » Jerry Butler
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« Reply #39 on: August 18, 2008, 06:46:14 pm »
Hey!  I'd never heard of Jonathan Groff, but he's going to be in Ang's new Woodstock movie!


My stepmother wanted to take me to see the original broadway version of Hair, but my mother wouldn't let her.  (I was about 10 years old.)  But I had the album, listened to it A LOT, and certainly broadened my vocabulary with it.

Our lovely John


From Hair:

White Boys

White boys are so pretty
Skin as smooth as milk
White boys are so pretty
Hair like Chinese silk

White boys give me goose bumps
White boys give me chills
When they touch my shoulder
That's the touch that kills

Well, my momma calls 'em lilies
I call 'em Piccadillies
My daddy warns me stay away
I say come on out and play

White boys are so groovy
White boys are so tough
Every time that they're near me
I just can't get enough

White boys are so pretty
White boys are so sweet
White boys drive me crazy
Drive me indiscreet

White boys are so sexy
Legs so long and lean
Love those sprayed-on trousers
Love the love machine

My brother calls 'em rubble
That's my kind of trouble
My daddy warns me "no no no"
But I say "White boys go go go"

White boys are so lovely
Beautiful as girls
I love to run my fingers
And toes through all their curls


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« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2008, 06:58:07 pm »
I turned 17 in 1968.....met my husband in March 1968......got engaged to him in July 1968 (my 17th birthday)......and married him in February 1969.....

(and its still going strong)

I was lucky to be a teenager thru the sixties.....was into Elvis....then Beatlemania.....then the hippie era......there was some fantastic music, and as I look down that list of songs, I reckon I could still sing word for word every one of them.......

OUR song  was Young Girl by The Union Gap......whenever we hear it now, we look at each other and smile that "remember when" smile...and you know, when I remember, I can even smell the perfume I wore and the after shave he wore.........there is nothing like a song to bring back memories......
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« Reply #41 on: August 18, 2008, 07:41:22 pm »
I remember every single song on that list (and can hum the opening of all of them) probably because in 1968 I had an AM radio surgically attached to my head (it was attached in 1965, actually, and removed in 1970, when I started listening to FM).

In New York, I listened to WABC - 77 with legendary DJs like Cousin Brucie (Bruce Morrow) and Dan Ingram (Dan Ingram's electric radio theater!). In the summer, when I was hanging out in New Hampshire, I listened to WRKO - 68 from Boston (it was good, but a pale imitator compared to 77).

Those were the days... (no. 30 on the list!)

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« Reply #42 on: August 18, 2008, 08:14:44 pm »
Oh yes Leslie, those certainly were the days.......when we took our transistor radios everywhere we went......(probably much the same now with the kids with their Ipods........

The car we had at the time did not have a radio in it.....back then a radio was an "extra" in a car.......so i used to slide the strap of my transistor radio over the sunvisor in the car, and it would sway back and forth with the movement of the car, but at least we could listen to music.

And everyone had a transistor radio beside them as they sunbaked on the beach...in fact one radio station used to have a call every half hour saying...."time to turn over in the sun".....so everyone would get an even tan.......no one ever thought to tell us to put sun block on though.

Yeah that was back "when a smoke was a smoke and groovin was groovin"........
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« Reply #43 on: August 18, 2008, 09:04:39 pm »
I remember the cars without radios...we did have radios in our cars but you are right, it was an extra.

Late at night (when I was in NH) we could get WABC (from NY) on the radio. We could also get WKBW from Buffalo, NY which made me feel like I was listening to music from Mars! WKBW was a great station, actually, although I could never call myself a "regular" listener since I'd only hear it really late at night, for an hour or two, and only in the summer. LOL.

As for baking on the beach...forget sunscreen! Do you remember the baby oil and iodine concoction we slathered ourselves with? Talk about frying in the sun!

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« Reply #44 on: August 18, 2008, 09:14:00 pm »


Those were the days... (no. 30 on the list!)



La La La La
La La La La LA!

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« Reply #45 on: August 18, 2008, 10:28:23 pm »
Eek! Elle, I have to hide under a rock! Blush! But thank you!

Now:

Hey!  I'd never heard of Jonathan Groff, but he's going to be in Ang's new Woodstock movie!

But now I have to say--Jonathan Groff is really a White Boy worth talking about!  :o

I loved him in Spring Awakening as the brave, anguished, forthright Melchior Gabor, and, when he was to be in Hair in Central Park this month (but leaving the production early, yesterday, on Sunday, August 17), I said to Meryl--that's it, it's this weekend or not at all! And we did it!  ;D

Funny--I sent some pictures to a friend in San Francisco, an exact contemporary (she went to see Hair in San Francisco in 1970 at 16, just as I went to see it in New York, same year)--and she sent me back an email, and said:

My goodness me!  It all comes rushing back!  I just loved that "Frank Mills" tune. What songs stayed in your mind? And such hunky cast members! Back in the day, I believe, they were probably on the 'wan' side!

Hilarious!

So here's the real White Boy, 'smooth as milk' (and hunky!) Jonathan Groff! (The extremely young and extremely talented three principals of Spring Awakening, Jonathan, his real live Lady Love, Lea Michele, and my "cousin"--Hah! Joke!--John Gallagher, Jr., the Emmy winner, have now all left the show for even more amazing things--but it's still a terrific show, so try it if you can!)

But here's Mr. Groff!










From left: John Gallagher, Jr., Lea Michele, and Jonathan Groff

and--

Hair!








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« Reply #46 on: August 18, 2008, 10:38:19 pm »

I have vivid memories of going to see the stage play Hair.

It was July 1970, in Sydney.

 My husband and I made a last minute decison to go go and see it and got to the theatre only ten minutes before show time.  Hubby said he would go and park the car, while I went to the ticket office to buy the tickets. As I walked up to the ticket office, I was aproached by two American Marines.....at the time, Sydney was a very popular place for American servicemen to take R&R leave from Vietnam.......they asked me if I wanted to see the show, and I said I was just about to buy tickets for me and my husband. They handed me two tickets, and said, have these.

Apparently they had bought four tickets, two for themselves and two for their dates who apparently had not turned up, which was quite sad. We ended up sitting next to them in the theatre.  We were planning to ask them if they wanted to go for a drink afterwards, but unfortunately they did not return after intermission.

Whenever I hear the music of Hair, I always remember that night, and those American marines.

Lovely, lovely story, Katie! Thank you! (I bet the marines didn't leave because of the politics--I bet they decided to go back and find more girls!)
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« Reply #47 on: August 18, 2008, 10:41:18 pm »

John, you are a true channeler of the 60's, and you're even five years younger than me!  I must have slept a lot as I went through high school and college.  ;)

Thanks for the great "Hair" pics, and of course for spending all day in line getting the so-called free tickets.  I'm glad to see your one illicit snapshot came out, despite the usher's stern looks.  ;D

I was hoarse as a hog after belting out the high part of "Let the Sun Shine" in chest voice!  :P

Thank you, Meryl! We can be 'Rainbow' and 'Moonbeam' yet!

(Wasn't that 'Staff' girl something fierce??  ::) )
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« Reply #48 on: August 18, 2008, 11:14:58 pm »

And by 1969, we found, these, uh, variants--but still valid artifacts of the '60s!


5th dimension-Aquarius-Let the Sunshine In (3:50)
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uONF0zJz2Oo[/youtube]


Bob McGrath, the Muppets - Good Morning, Starshine (3:06)
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« Reply #49 on: August 18, 2008, 11:31:44 pm »
Great Hair pictures John! I saw it 2 or 3 years ago at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri. My parents (who were 21 and 19 in 1968) said it was important for my brother and I to see it. I listen to the title song all the time and a few others are definite favorites of mine. I love that show.

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« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2008, 12:05:09 am »
"Those were the days"  aka "Le temps des fleurs"

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« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2008, 12:06:10 am »
Great Hair pictures John! I saw it 2 or 3 years ago at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri. My parents (who were 21 and 19 in 1968) said it was important for my brother and I to see it. I listen to the title song all the time and a few others are definite favorites of mine. I love that show.

Thank you, Courtney! I bet you have the coolest parents!

This might be one of your favorites--I know Meryl likes it!

 Barbra Streisand - Frank Mills (2:08)
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKmInIIGYP0&feature=related[/youtube]


 The Lemonheads - Frank Mills (1:47)
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« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2008, 12:18:11 am »
The #2 song of 1968 was "Love is blue" or "L'amour est bleu" by Paul Mauriat:

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« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2008, 12:42:51 am »
Thanks for the versions of "Frank Mills," John.  The Streisand one doesn't ring true somehow, and the fussy orchestra arrangement kind of spoils it, I think.  The girl that sang it in the show the other night really did it perfectly--sweet, naive and genuine.

"Love Is Blue" will forever remind me of our sorority's performance of it at Spring Sing in college.  We won first prize!  8)
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« Reply #54 on: August 19, 2008, 12:50:52 am »
Yeah, Frank Mills is good. So is Donna.  :)

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« Reply #55 on: August 19, 2008, 01:04:19 am »


Meryl, re: your Spring Sing--good for you! As for Babs--well, she was in her comedienne rôle--but that's her! But yes, wasn't Allison Case, as 'Crissy,' just beautiful Saturday night? So touching--and really, really good, musically! Great production, all around!

Paul--I bet you loved this one--one of my all time favorites, in 1966:


Un Homme et Une Femme - Claude Lelouch 1966 (2:28)
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfc4NPNMFro&feature=related[/youtube]

The 60's rule!

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« Reply #56 on: August 19, 2008, 01:11:20 am »

Yeah, Frank Mills is good. So is Donna.  :)

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Yup! Great stuff!  ;)
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« Reply #57 on: August 19, 2008, 01:33:05 am »

Paul--I bet you loved this one--one of my all time favorites, in 1966:


Un Homme et Une Femme - Claude Lelouch 1966 (2:28)
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfc4NPNMFro&feature=related[/youtube]

Yes, John, although I'm partial to Patricia Kaas's version from "And Now Ladies and Gentleman" (with Jeremy Irons).  Alas, I cannot find it on youtube.

As a consolation, here's Mireille Mathieu:

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« Reply #58 on: August 19, 2008, 02:19:13 am »
Oh theres nothing like a song to put you right back there.....another time, another world.....I have been having flash backs all day today, after all this talk of the 60's.


And everyone had a transistor radio beside them as they sunbaked on the beach...in fact one radio station used to have a call every half hour saying...."time to turn over in the sun".....so everyone would get an even tan.......no one ever thought to tell us to put sun block on though.

Yeah that was back "when a smoke was a smoke and groovin was groovin"........


As for baking on the beach...forget sunscreen! Do you remember the baby oil and iodine concoction we slathered ourselves with? Talk about frying in the sun!

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We used to smother ourselves in coconut oil and virtually cook....then the next day when we were red and sunburnt we used to rub tomato on our skin.....

I was driving into town today, thinking about all these posts here, and reflecting on my own memories.....I mentioned in an earlier post that the song that was OUR (my hubby's and mine) song was Young Girl by the Union Gap........there were two reasons why it had a special meaning to us....

One was because I was a Young Girl.......17

The other was the words .....so hurry home to your Mama, Im sure she wonders where you are.....even though I was engaged to be married, at 17 if Mum said "be home by 10"......I was home at 10......many a time when Bob and I were out, I would say, I've got to get home, Mum will be wonderin where I am.......

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« Reply #59 on: August 19, 2008, 05:03:56 am »
That is an INCREDIBLE list of songs.  I don't recognize a few, but man oh manischewitz, most of them are jewels.   A person could do worse than only listen to those 100 songs the rest of their life. 

Leslie, I remember you and me bonding over 77 WABC two and nearly a half years ago!


Three of my favorites from Hair:

Easy to be Hard (Three Dog Night)
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« Reply #60 on: August 19, 2008, 07:33:26 am »
So I am sleeping away, happily, and then for no known reason I wake up at 3:30 am with this running through my head:

So there's green alligators
And long-necked geese
And humpy-backed camels and some chimpanzees
And cats and rats and elephants and sure as you're born
You're never gonna see a unicorn

I didn't even watch the video posted here. Those lyrics are from the depth of the useless filing cabinet known as "my brain." I wonder how close I am to correct?

(Leslie scurries off to find a song lyric site).

EDIT TO ADD: I just listened to the song and I'd say I was pretty damn close! Maybe they say humpty-backed camels with a T (like humpty-dumpty, I guess) but I had the rest right (for the final verse, that is).

I forgot all about Noah and the poor drowning unicorns. What a sad song! LOL

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« Reply #61 on: August 19, 2008, 09:04:29 am »
Wow, that was fun, Jack.  Thanks.

I turned 5 in 1968, but I know most of those songs.  In fact, #76 holds a special place in my heart, as it was the first 45 I ever owned (and I still have it!):  The Unicorn by the Irish Rovers.  It kinda stands out as an odd duck amongst all the other rock and pop hits.


What a great song Paul!!! Thanks for sharing that. I do remember the song, but I have not heard it in ages. You are right it does stand out as an odd duck among the others. And here is something that is funny I remember hearing that song when I was little and I thought it was a true story of why there were no unicorns  :laugh: I really did! I also used to think that songs that had the word "baby" in them were talking about real babies as in infants. For example, songs like "Since I Lost My Baby" meant that someone had lost their baby, their child  :laugh:

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« Reply #62 on: August 19, 2008, 09:08:57 am »
And here is something that is funny I remember hearing that song when I was little and I thought it was a true story of why there were no unicorns  :laugh: I really did! I also used to think that songs that had the word "baby" in them were talking about real babies as in infants. For example, songs like "Since I Lost My Baby" meant that someone had lost their baby, their child  :laugh:

Jack, that is funny.........we were all pretty naeive then eh?

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« Reply #63 on: August 19, 2008, 09:16:55 am »
Jack, that is funny.........we were all pretty naeive then eh?



Naive and oblivious, I think. I listen to some of these old songs and say to myself, how I did I miss all these references to sex and drugs? Robert Plant singing, "I want to be your back door man" (c'mon, quick, what song? what group? what year? I am sure 90% of the people here know.) but back then I just thought it was a catchy lyric. LOL.

I mean, heck, we can even turn those missing unicorns into something dirty if we felt like it!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #64 on: August 19, 2008, 09:18:06 am »
Thank you so much for sharing your and Meryl's Hairy experience with us, John. Those are totally wonderful pictures! And thanks for the Top 100 list of 1968. These days, are there still 100 songs that are published in one year? I wonder! So many of those made the memories rush back!!

Yes Lee there are still lists of the top 100 songs of a year; however, the songs in my opinion do not match up to music such as this. For one thing most of the Billboard Hot 100 which is what used to be and still is the main Billboard chart consists of urban rap songs. I just never have been able to bring myself to like many of the rap songs although some are ok. For one thing I don't like the messages they have such as hate, killing, and the like. That is quite an odd message compared to these songs of the 60s that were mainly associated with making the world a more peaceful place. We could use a lot of these messages today if we look at the state of the world we now live in. However, there are still good songs coming out. They are just fewer and further inbetween. Also, there are now so many different Billboard charts. There is even one for the top Ringtones.

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« Reply #65 on: August 19, 2008, 09:28:58 am »
Naive and oblivious, I think. I listen to some of these old songs and say to myself, how I did I miss all these references to sex and drugs? Robert Plant singing, "I want to be your back door man" (c'mon, quick, what song? what group? what year? I am sure 90% of the people here know.) but back then I just thought it was a catchy lyric. LOL.

I mean, heck, we can even turn those missing unicorns into something dirty if we felt like it!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Oh yeah Leslie......we sang along to all these songs of "gettng high", "light my fire", "girl you're a woman now", and god knows what else was in the meaning of some of those songs back then.

But truth is, if we were so oblivious to what they meant, then our parents certainly had LESS concept of what hey meant...... ::) ::)
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« Reply #66 on: August 19, 2008, 09:46:18 am »
Hey!  I'd never heard of Jonathan Groff, but he's going to be in Ang's new Woodstock movie!


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« Reply #67 on: August 19, 2008, 09:54:02 am »
I turned 17 in 1968.....met my husband in March 1968......got engaged to him in July 1968 (my 17th birthday)......and married him in February 1969.....

(and its still going strong)

I was lucky to be a teenager thru the sixties.....was into Elvis....then Beatlemania.....then the hippie era......there was some fantastic music, and as I look down that list of songs, I reckon I could still sing word for word every one of them.......

OUR song  was Young Girl by The Union Gap......whenever we hear it now, we look at each other and smile that "remember when" smile...and you know, when I remember, I can even smell the perfume I wore and the after shave he wore.........there is nothing like a song to bring back memories......

That's a great song Katie - "Young Girl" by The Union Gap. It is funny how songs can bring back memories. All of a sudden you are transported back to a different time and a different place. I heard the song on the radio the other day "If You Leave Me Now" by Chicago and it took me right back to when my first relationship, Steve, and I were staying at a friend's apartment. I guess that was kind of our song and I remember him telling me that this is the way he would feel if we ever broke up. It brought to mind another song too which was another one of our songs, "All By Myself" by Eric Carmen. I remember that day he told me that he felt this way before he met me. Oh well, we broke up many, many years ago. I sometimes wonder wherever he is if he remembers these songs and that time too. And now I am feeling sad  :'(

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« Reply #68 on: August 19, 2008, 10:03:25 am »

I mean, heck, we can even turn those missing unicorns into something dirty if we felt like it!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Good job with the lyrics, Leslie, but don't go turning my Unicorn song into something nasty!

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« Reply #69 on: August 19, 2008, 10:06:11 am »
Good job with the lyrics, Leslie, but don't go turning my Unicorn song into something nasty!

Oh c'mon, what's the mythology about unicorns? They lay their heads in the laps of young virgins?
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« Reply #70 on: August 19, 2008, 10:51:58 am »
Oh c'mon, what's the mythology about unicorns? They lay their heads in the laps of young virgins?

Ouch!

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« Reply #71 on: August 19, 2008, 11:03:36 am »
Something else about a lot of those old songs: Back in those days you could actually hear and comprehend a lot of the lyrics (even if you didn't necessarily comprehend some the double meanings, you still knew what words were being sung). Think how clear the lead vocals were on "Young Girl," just as a for instance.
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« Reply #72 on: August 19, 2008, 11:12:39 am »
But now I have to say--Jonathan Groff is really a White Boy worth talking about!  :o

I loved him in Spring Awakening as the brave, anguished, forthright Melchior Gabor, and, when he was to be in Hair in Central Park this month (but leaving the production early, yesterday, on Sunday, August 17), I said to Meryl--that's it, it's this weekend or not at all! And we did it!  ;D

Funny--I sent some pictures to a friend in San Francisco, an exact contemporary (she went to see Hair in San Francisco in 1970 at 16, just as I went to see it in New York, same year)--and she sent me back an email, and said:

My goodness me!  It all comes rushing back!  I just loved that "Frank Mills" tune. What songs stayed in your mind? And such hunky cast members! Back in the day, I believe, they were probably on the 'wan' side!

Hilarious!

So here's the real White Boy, 'smooth as milk' (and hunky!) Jonathan Groff! (The extremely young and extremely talented three principals of Spring Awakening, Jonathan, his real live Lady Love, Lea Michele, and my "cousin"--Hah! Joke!--John Gallagher, Jr., the Emmy winner, have now all left the show for even more amazing things--but it's still a terrific show, so try it if you can!)

Jonathan Groff, the pride of Lancaster, Pennsylvania. ...

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« Reply #73 on: August 19, 2008, 12:11:55 pm »
Something else about a lot of those old songs: Back in those days you could actually hear and comprehend a lot of the lyrics (even if you didn't necessarily comprehend some the double meanings, you still knew what words were being sung). Think how clear the lead vocals were on "Young Girl," just as a for instance.

Young girl....get outta my life
My love for you is way outta line
Gotta run girl!
You're much too young, girl!

(Another lyric from the vault in Leslie's head)
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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #74 on: August 19, 2008, 12:21:50 pm »
Young girl....get outta my life
My love for you is way outta line
Gotta run girl!
You're much too young, girl!

(Another lyric from the vault in Leslie's head)

 :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

That one's been in my head since yesterday! And maybe the singing 40 years ago wasn't as clear as I thought! I remember those lines this way:

Young girl, get outta my mind!
My love for you is way outta line.
You better run, girl,
You're much too young, girl!

But you're a bigger music fan than I am. Your memory is probably correct.

I've been tempted to post my memory of the entire lyric of "Harper Valley P.T.A.," but I think I'll forbear!  :laugh:
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« Reply #75 on: August 19, 2008, 12:23:26 pm »
Oh c'mon, what's the mythology about unicorns? They lay their heads in the laps of young virgins?

Obviously that tale was dreamed up by a straight male.  ::)
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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #76 on: August 19, 2008, 12:59:33 pm »
Jeff, it looks like your memory is a little clearer than mine...I'll blame it on youth, you're younger than me! LOL
Seriously, reading this now...another list I am on, people are busily discussing whether writing a story with a 16 or 17 year old character having sex with an older character, is that an issue? Or if you write a story with a 14 and a 16 year old character having sex...will the decency police come after you? Meanwhile, read these lyrics and remember that this song was no. 15 for the year! LOL...

And, disclaimer: I never even liked this song. I only remember the words (albeit not 100% correctly) because they played it endlessly on that radio that was attached to my head....




Young girl, get out of my mind
My love for you is way out of line
Better run girl,
You're much too young girl
With all the charms of a woman
You've kept the secret of your youth
You led me to believe
You're old enough
To give me Love
And now it hurts to know the truth, Oh,

Beneath your perfume and make-up
You're just a baby in disguise
And though you know
That it is wrong to be
Alone with me
That come on look is in your eyes, Oh,

So hurry home to your mama
I'm sure she wonders where you are
Get out of here
Before I have the time
To change my mind
'Cause I'm afraid we'll go too far, Oh,
Young girl

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« Reply #77 on: August 19, 2008, 06:58:16 pm »
OMG........OH PLEASE PLEASE DONT TURN MY SONG INTO SOMETHING NASTY...

Gotta admit though, as much as Ive listened to the song millions of times and know the words so clearly, I only ever thought of it in relation to me and Bob......but now, when I just sit here and read the words, it looks like a story hedging on pedophilia.

Just to get everyone back on track and the significance to me........Bob was 21 when I met him and I was 16, and I did tell him I was 18 when I first met him, but I did tell him the truth a few weeks later.....hence the significance of the words...

You led me to believe
You're old enough
To give me Love


I exlplained before about the "now hurry home to your Mumma"....

Ironically, the next song that the Union Gap released was.."This Girl is a Woman Now".....and that was a fitting sequal to "Young Girl" for us..........(if you know what I mean)....

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« Reply #78 on: August 19, 2008, 07:05:15 pm »
Now....for all of you music buffs who want more walks down memory lane, here is a link to a juke box. You click the year you want and songs from that year will play continuously on your computer. You can minimize it and do other stuff and the songs will still play in the background.....try it. There are thousands and thousands of songs....and millions and millions of memories......

(To change the year, just go back to the home page and click on the year that you want)

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« Reply #79 on: August 19, 2008, 09:22:01 pm »
OMG........OH PLEASE PLEASE DONT TURN MY SONG INTO SOMETHING NASTY...

Gotta admit though, as much as Ive listened to the song millions of times and know the words so clearly, I only ever thought of it in relation to me and Bob......but now, when I just sit here and read the words, it looks like a story hedging on pedophilia.

I wouldn't say that, Katie. After all, the "speaker" is telling her to go away. And I could be wrong, but it seems in my memory that little girls maybe didn't grow up as quickly in 1968 as they seem to do today. She might be a "young girl," but I never imagined she was that young.
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« Reply #80 on: August 19, 2008, 09:27:49 pm »
I wouldn't say that, Katie. After all, the "speaker" is telling her to go away. And I could be wrong, but it seems in my memory that little girls maybe didn't grow up as quickly in 1968 as they seem to do today. She might be a "young girl," but I never imagined she was that young.

True Jeff.....I wasnt thinking of anyone really really young....maybe someone who was maybe just underage but looked older......jail bait......and you are right, just like Gary Puckett was to tell her to "get out of his life".


Hope that's cleared that up...... ::)
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« Reply #81 on: August 19, 2008, 09:40:21 pm »
That amazing summer--

Anyway: this film, "3,000 Paintings in 3 minutes," was made by a UCLA graduate student-filmmaker named Dan McLaughlin.
 
The music, of course, is "Classical Gas" by Mason Williams.
 
It was screened on "The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour" during the summer of 1968 (Glenn Campbell was the host)--
 
The impact was HUGE. I was 14 years old, and I have never, ever forgotten it.


It's great reading everyones memorys of that time and their ages.
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« Reply #82 on: August 21, 2008, 01:12:12 pm »
I think this is interesting and this thread seems to be a good place to post it. I work at a University that consists of traditional college age students - 17 to 21 or so years old. School just started back and they are having a poster sale on the breezeway of the big student center. It is packed with students buying posters. This is something they have every year. Anyway, what amazes me and what has amazed me for several years are the posters they are selling and the posters the students are buying. I also know that these same type posters are mainly what the students have in their dorm rooms. The music posters are of The Beatles (several different ones), The Doors, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, The Mamas and The Papas, The Animals, Led Zeppelin, Queen, etc. I even noticed that the movie posters are of Rocky (the old one), Indiana Jones (the old one), The Godfather, etc. although I did see one of Donnie Darko. The song that was playing as I walked by was "The Ballad of John and Yoko" by The Beatles.

So what is up with this? These students were born around the years of 1987 - 1991. These groups, and even the movies, had happened long before they were even born. However, these are the posters they are buying, hanging up and even in many cases the music they are listening to. This has been going on for several years now. These are of course posters of the groups when they were young and popular, but still it is hard to understand. I know I find a lot of the music that is out now not very good, but if I were of that generation it seems I would maybe like it. Well maybe. There are groups and singers I do like such as Nickelback, Staind, 3 Doors Down, etc.

Now here is a really strange thing that happened a couple of years ago. I went down with the Resnet person (they help students establish their Internet connection) and someone had a box of LPs, you know vinyl as it is called now. The LP at the front was Liberace's Greatest Hits  ;D Now that was beyond strange. I can't even imagine me at any point in my life carrying around a record by Liberace  :laugh:

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« Reply #83 on: August 21, 2008, 01:30:17 pm »

Late at night (when I was in NH) we could get WABC (from NY) on the radio. We could also get WKBW from Buffalo, NY which made me feel like I was listening to music from Mars! WKBW was a great station, actually, although I could never call myself a "regular" listener since I'd only hear it really late at night, for an hour or two, and only in the summer. LOL.


I remember when I was growing up and I would try to see the different places I could get radio stations from. That was great!!! I can remember picking up several stations from New York City, New Orleans, Fort Wayne Indiana, Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit, Philadelphia and it is no telling where else. Some stations even were in another language meaning at the time that I was picking up something outside of the United States. Once I even started making a list of each station I could get. This was on my parents' really cool huge stereo that they actually still have. It is a piece of furniture. It literally is.

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« Reply #84 on: August 21, 2008, 03:22:08 pm »
LIberace had "greatest hits"? That is beyond strange!
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« Reply #85 on: August 21, 2008, 06:53:28 pm »
I know what you mean Jack, about the younger generation and their interest and and adoration of pop stars who were on the scene before most of them were born.

My son, born in 1971 is a real Elvis fan. Has big framed pictures of him in his house, and other Elvis memorablilia around the place...

Actually, he seems to go for those popular stars who died young, like Buddy Holly and Richie Valens.

I think a lot of that came from him watching the movies that were made about them. I think the movie Grease was probably the beginning of the fixation with the songs of the 50's.

The odd thing is, when I was growing up in the fifties and sixties, over here in Australia we didnt get much film footage of any of the pop stars, we heard them, but didnt see much of them, except a photo on the record cover. It was years later when we started getting video clips, and old footage of those singers.

A lot of the American stars of that era have come out to Australia for concerts over the past ten or twenty years. I was lucky to see Gene Pitney, and Bobby Vee, and Johnny Mathis, and Glen Campbell.....And I dd see the Beatles when they arrived in Sydney in 1964.....I was one of those screaming teeny boppers at Sydney Airport, screaming my lungs out.

I love the Time Life advertisements on TV...they go for half an hour, advertising sets of CD's from the fifties and sixties, showing film footage of the  artists......even though its repetitive, I still sit back and enjoy them, and then I usually download the songs of the computer and burn them onto a CD, and always make a copy for my son as well.

Did anyone try that juke box link I posted a few days ago?.....If you havent, you should, you wont be disappointed.
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« Reply #86 on: August 22, 2008, 02:40:31 am »

The odd thing is, when I was growing up in the fifties and sixties, over here in Australia we didnt get much film footage of any of the pop stars, we heard them, but didnt see much of them, except a photo on the record cover. It was years later when we started getting video clips, and old footage of those singers.

Did anyone try that juke box link I posted a few days ago?.....If you havent, you should, you wont be disappointed.


Sue, that's true for me too, that I didn't see what they look like.  I'm stunned how many videos there are on YouTube now of Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Cream, etc.  I never knew what any of them looked like, except for Eric Clapton (aka God) and Robert Plant.

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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #87 on: August 22, 2008, 07:13:15 am »

Sue, that's true for me too, that I didn't see what they look like.  I'm stunned how many videos there are on YouTube now of Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Cream, etc.  I never knew what any of them looked like, except for Eric Clapton (aka God) and Robert Plant.



I knew what the Beatles looked like, of course, and the Rolling Stones. And Herman's Hermits, the Beach Boys, Steppenwolf and whomever I might see on the Ed Sullivan Show, Hullabaloo or Shindig!

What I didn't know is what they looked like just being ordinary and I never knew all the names of the people in the band (again, with the notable exception of the Beatles!). I saw my first music video in 1982 and almost fainted. I thought it was the greatest invention since the LP. LOL.

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« Reply #88 on: August 22, 2008, 08:36:57 am »
I knew what the Beatles looked like, of course, and the Rolling Stones. And Herman's Hermits, the Beach Boys, Steppenwolf and whomever I might see on the Ed Sullivan Show, Hullabaloo or Shindig!

I remember all of those. Not to mention The Hollywood Palace. ...  8)
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« Reply #89 on: August 22, 2008, 08:39:26 am »
I knew what the Beatles looked like, of course, and the Rolling Stones. And Herman's Hermits, the Beach Boys, Steppenwolf and whomever I might see on the Ed Sullivan Show, Hullabaloo or Shindig!

What I didn't know is what they looked like just being ordinary and I never knew all the names of the people in the band (again, with the notable exception of the Beatles!). I saw my first music video in 1982 and almost fainted. I thought it was the greatest invention since the LP. LOL.

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LOL! I remember Ed sullivan but the others were a bit before me. I grew up with American bandstand and soul train! LOL
I remember watcdhing MTV for the first time in 82 as well! It was great! Not like what it is now. Do they even play music anymore?
I think the first video I saw was Hungry like the wolf!
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« Reply #90 on: August 22, 2008, 08:44:50 am »
LOL! I remember Ed sullivan but the others were a bit before me. I grew up with American bandstand and soul train! LOL
I remember watcdhing MTV for the first time in 82 as well! It was great! Not like what it is now. Do they even play music anymore?
I think the first video I saw was Hungry like the wolf!

I watched Soul Train in college. God, I loved that show! LOL

Hungry Like the Wolf by Duran Duran is a terrific video. So is Rio. You can watch them both on YouTube. I think the first video I saw was one of the first videos they ever showed: Video Killed the Radio Star. Great stuff!

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« Reply #91 on: August 22, 2008, 09:04:24 am »
We had an Australian version of Bandstand which featured only Australian artists.

I remember seeing the Bee Gees on there, three young kids from England, who sang a song called "My Old Mans a Dustman".

Also Helen Reddy, who actually won a talent quest on our Bandstand and her prize was a trip to America....where she became a star. Actually at the time, Helen's sister, Toni Lamond was a very popular artist in stage and comedy shows. Helen was an unknown here until she made it big over there.

And of course Olivia Newton John, she was always on Bandstand. She was just a young teenager.

Oh and how can I forget Peter Allen.....he was part of the Bankdstand "family". Back then he was in a duo, and they were called The Allen Brothers, even though they weren't really brothers.

And of course we had our own Aussie stars that never ventured overseas, but still became legends here.

We also had another show on every afternoon. It was called Komotion...and Aussies would mime the songs of overseas artists......it was a very popular show, and was our only chance then, to hear those songs on TV, even though we were not seeing the real singer sing them.
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« Reply #92 on: August 22, 2008, 12:40:39 pm »
Ok, it's not a 60's thread, but it seems right to add:

I saw my first music video in 1982 and almost fainted. I thought it was the greatest invention since the LP. LOL.

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This is a list of the first music videos aired on MTV. These music videos were played on MTV's first day, August 1, 1981.

1.  "Video Killed the Radio Star" by The Buggles
2.  "You Better Run" by Pat Benatar
3.  "She Won't Dance With Me" by Rod Stewart (Contains use of the word "fuck" by Stewart [1]. A VH1 broadcast of the video posted on YouTube suggests the word was never edited from the video [2].)
4.  "You Better You Bet" by The Who
5.  "Little Suzi's on the Up" by Ph.D.
6.  "We Don't Talk Anymore" by Cliff Richard
7.  "Brass in Pocket" by The Pretenders
8.  "Time Heals" by Todd Rundgren
9.  "Take It On the Run" by REO Speedwagon
10. "Rockin' the Paradise" by Styx
11. "When Things Go Wrong" by Robin Lane and the Chartbusters
12. "History Never Repeats" by Split Enz
13. "Hold On Loosely" by 38 Special
14. "Just Between You and Me" by April Wine
15. "Sailing" by Rod Stewart
16. "Iron Maiden" by Iron Maiden
17. "Keep On Loving You" by REO Speedwagon
18. "Message of Love" by The Pretenders
19. "Mr. Briefcase" by Lee Ritenour
20. "Double Life" by The Cars
21. "In the Air Tonight" by Phil Collins
22. "Looking For Clues" by Robert Palmer
23. "Too Late" by Shoes
24. "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around" by Stevie Nicks and Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
"Surface Tension" by Rupert Hine
25. "One Step Ahead" by Split Enz
26. "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty
27. "I'm Gonna Follow You" by Pat Benatar
28. "Savannah Nights" by Tom Johnston
29. "Lucille" by Rockestra
30. "The Best of Times" by Styx
31. "Vengeance" by Carly Simon
32. "Wrathchild" by Iron Maiden
33. "I Wanna Be a Lifeguard" by Blotto
34. "Passion" by Rod Stewart
35. "Oliver's Army" by Elvis Costello
36. "Don't Let Him Go" by REO Speedwagon
37. "Remote Control/Illegal" by The Silencers
38. "Angel of the Morning" by Juice Newton
39. "Little Sister" by Rockpile with Robert Plant
40. "Hold On to the Night" by Bootcamp
41. "Dreaming" by Cliff Richard
42. "Is it You?" by Lee Ritenour
43. "Tusk" by Fleetwood Mac
44. "He Can't Love You" by Michael Stanley Band
45. "Tough Guys" by REO Speedwagon
46. "Rapture" by Blondie
47. "Don't Let Go the Coat" by The Who
48. "Ain't Love a Bitch" by Rod Stewart
49. "Talk of the Town" by The Pretenders
50. "Can't Happen Here" by Rainbow
51. "Thank You for Being a Friend" by Andrew Gold
52. "Bring It All Home" by Gerry Rafferty
53. "Sign of the Gypsy Queen" by April Wine
54. "The Man with the Child in His Eyes" by Kate Bush
55. "Ashes to Ashes" by David Bowie
56. "Just Between You and Me" by April Wine
57. "Rat Race" by The Specials
58. "Once in a Lifetime" by Talking Heads
59. "Victim" by Bootcamp
60. "Tonight's the Night" by Rod Stewart
61. "Cruel to Be Kind" by Nick Lowe



I think the first video I saw was one of the first videos they ever showed: Video Killed the Radio Star. Great stuff!

Played on MTV's first day, August 1, 1981:
1.  "Video Killed the Radio Star" by The Buggles
(That I knew--I loved that song!)


I'm listening to the Jukebox now, "Angel of the Morning."  Thanks, it's great.  :)

Played on MTV's first day, August 1, 1981:
38. "Angel of the Morning" by Juice Newton (Who knew? Not me!)



Me, I'm a visual guy, and not very musical; that's just the brain works.  For whatever reason, this novelty song by a Norwegian band on MTV in 1985 finally penetrated my brain, and I thought--oh, that's what video is for!! I loved it.

A-ha -- Take On Me     (1984)
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUod3jGQt0U[/youtube]

(By the way--aren't the clothes and hair a scream?? And for you younger folk, the final image of this video is not a reference from The Matrix (1999), which had been not created yet, but from the 1980 film, Altered States, with William Hurt and Blair Brown.)
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« Reply #93 on: August 22, 2008, 05:46:54 pm »
Thanks for that memory, John.  Wow, that animation still holds up after all these years. 

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« Reply #94 on: August 22, 2008, 06:00:17 pm »
That A-ha video has always been a favorite of mine!  Thanks for the blast from the past, John.  I wish all videos had that terrific creativity and joy.  8)
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« Reply #95 on: August 22, 2008, 07:19:23 pm »

Thanks! I really loved that early MTV period, too, when they all began to get creative!

For visuals, you can't beat the following:


Dire Straits - Money for nothing     (1984)
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNaKWXqXkhw&feature=related[/youtube]


Peter Gabriel - Sledgehammer    (1986)
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqyc37aOqT0[/youtube]


Peter Gabriel - Big Time    (1986)
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« Reply #96 on: August 22, 2008, 07:30:48 pm »
Oh....I love Dire Straits, my favourite being "Going Home" (instrumental).....powerful powerful music.

As a footnote to when I mentioned my son being an Elvis fan....back when he was a teenager, he would be in his room listenng to Elvis and Hubby and I would be in another room listening to Dire Straits.....talk about topsy turvy.....
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« Reply #97 on: August 22, 2008, 07:39:11 pm »
I was just reading an article about Peter Gabriel and they were talking about Sledgehammer. Everyone tried to talk him out of the idea and he was adamant and now it has become one of the most famous music videos of all.

I love that A-Ha video...and so does my 17 year old daughter. Which says something about young people liking their parents' music!

We were in Jamaica in 1989 and saw the group The Fixx filming a music video called "This Magic Stone." We sat and watched the filming for a few hours and I remember my sister memorably saying to me, "No wonder they use drugs...you'd have to, to manage to get through this crap and make it look realistic."

I never heard the song on the radio nor saw the video on TV so obviously it was a flop, but I can still hum a few bars of the melody (courtesy of Leslie's vault brain).

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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #98 on: August 22, 2008, 08:29:23 pm »
II never heard the song on the radio nor saw the video on TV so obviously it was a flop, but I can still hum a few bars of the melody (courtesy of Leslie's vault brain).

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Yeah Leslie.....we all have that Wurlitzer Juke Box up there in our brain.......and the music just keep going on and on.....
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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #99 on: August 22, 2008, 08:53:48 pm »
We saw Peter Gabriel live in Worcester, MA circa 1996 and it was a terrific show.  Some of his songs (like Sledgehammer) relied on nostalgia and his pants were wicked tight...still fun tho!!
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« Reply #100 on: August 22, 2008, 10:21:21 pm »
John, you zeroed in on the couple of years that I actually watched MTV oin the 80's.  Loved "Money for Nothing" and "Sledgehammer."   :-*
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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #101 on: August 23, 2008, 12:11:56 am »
I'm glad people liked the Peter Gabriel videos. As for Dire Straits, what's not to like (and we have Princess Di's seal of approval)!

Here's an interesting site:

Favorite 80s Music Videos
http://www.inthe80s.com/musicvideos/a.shtml

Also: Robert Palmer's videos made from the songs of his 1985 album, Riptide, were, shall we say, striking.

Robert Palmer - Addicted To Love     (1985)
(if Youtube won't play this video, go directly to the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0U5JfGYx4c)
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjbzKkeIDxY[/youtube]


Robert Palmer - Simply Irresistible     (1985)
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3geoXOdnJQ[/youtube]

By the way:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Palmer_(singer)

"Palmer, who made his home in Lugano, Switzerland for his last 15 years, died in Paris, France in 2003 of a sudden heart attack at the age of 54. He is interred at the cemetery in Lugano."

Wow. A dangerous age, as I know first hand....
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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #102 on: August 23, 2008, 01:41:13 pm »


"Palmer, who made his home in Lugano, Switzerland for his last 15 years, died in Paris, France in 2003 of a sudden heart attack at the age of 54. He is interred at the cemetery in Lugano."

Wow. A dangerous age, as I know first hand....


Yeah, but yours has turned out very differently.  Who knew you would be breezily posting away again now?  I for one thank every available star for your return.

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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #103 on: August 23, 2008, 05:40:50 pm »

Yeah, but yours has turned out very differently.  Who knew you would be breezily posting away again now?  I for one thank every available star for your return.

:-*

What Elle said.  Most definitely.

Elle also said I should post here to say that I'm one of the good things that happened in 1968.   ::)  :)
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« Reply #104 on: August 23, 2008, 09:17:05 pm »
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aired on MTV
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This is a list of the first music videos aired on MTV. These music videos were played on MTV's first day, August 1, 1981.

1.  "Video Killed the Radio Star" by The Buggles
2.  "You Better Run" by Pat Benatar
3.  "She Won't Dance With Me" by Rod Stewart (Contains use of the word "fuck" by Stewart [1]. A VH1 broadcast of the video posted on YouTube suggests the word was never edited from the video [2].)
4.  "You Better You Bet" by The Who
5.  "Little Suzi's on the Up" by Ph.D.
6.  "We Don't Talk Anymore" by Cliff Richard
7.  "Brass in Pocket" by The Pretenders
8.  "Time Heals" by Todd Rundgren
9.  "Take It On the Run" by REO Speedwagon
10. "Rockin' the Paradise" by Styx
11. "When Things Go Wrong" by Robin Lane and the Chartbusters
12. "History Never Repeats" by Split Enz
13. "Hold On Loosely" by 38 Special
14. "Just Between You and Me" by April Wine
15. "Sailing" by Rod Stewart
16. "Iron Maiden" by Iron Maiden
17. "Keep On Loving You" by REO Speedwagon
18. "Message of Love" by The Pretenders
19. "Mr. Briefcase" by Lee Ritenour
20. "Double Life" by The Cars
21. "In the Air Tonight" by Phil Collins
22. "Looking For Clues" by Robert Palmer
23. "Too Late" by Shoes
24. "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around" by Stevie Nicks and Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
"Surface Tension" by Rupert Hine
25. "One Step Ahead" by Split Enz
26. "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty
27. "I'm Gonna Follow You" by Pat Benatar
28. "Savannah Nights" by Tom Johnston
29. "Lucille" by Rockestra
30. "The Best of Times" by Styx
31. "Vengeance" by Carly Simon
32. "Wrathchild" by Iron Maiden
33. "I Wanna Be a Lifeguard" by Blotto
34. "Passion" by Rod Stewart
35. "Oliver's Army" by Elvis Costello
36. "Don't Let Him Go" by REO Speedwagon
37. "Remote Control/Illegal" by The Silencers
38. "Angel of the Morning" by Juice Newton
39. "Little Sister" by Rockpile with Robert Plant
40. "Hold On to the Night" by Bootcamp
41. "Dreaming" by Cliff Richard
42. "Is it You?" by Lee Ritenour
43. "Tusk" by Fleetwood Mac
44. "He Can't Love You" by Michael Stanley Band
45. "Tough Guys" by REO Speedwagon
46. "Rapture" by Blondie
47. "Don't Let Go the Coat" by The Who
48. "Ain't Love a Bitch" by Rod Stewart
49. "Talk of the Town" by The Pretenders
50. "Can't Happen Here" by Rainbow
51. "Thank You for Being a Friend" by Andrew Gold
52. "Bring It All Home" by Gerry Rafferty
53. "Sign of the Gypsy Queen" by April Wine
54. "The Man with the Child in His Eyes" by Kate Bush
55. "Ashes to Ashes" by David Bowie
56. "Just Between You and Me" by April Wine
57. "Rat Race" by The Specials
58. "Once in a Lifetime" by Talking Heads
59. "Victim" by Bootcamp
60. "Tonight's the Night" by Rod Stewart
61. "Cruel to Be Kind" by Nick Lowe

Thaks for posting this list John!
I see so many old favorites of mine in there!
Really takes me back!! ; 8)
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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #105 on: August 24, 2008, 01:19:43 am »
Yeah, but yours has turned out very differently.  Who knew you would be breezily posting away again now?  I for one thank every available star for your return. :-*

Elle! More than 'Thanks,' but--thanks. (Sniff.)


Elle also said I should post here to say that I'm one of the good things that happened in 1968.   ::)  :)

Lynne: Quite right! Good for you! 1968 was/is a GREAT year. LOVE '68!


I see so many old favorites of mine in there! Really takes me back!! ; 8)

Thanks! Me too! Except I have to go waaaaaaay back!   ;D



Believe it or not (see below), I loved this silly piece of nonsense, hilariously stupid as it was; I was 25 years old--what did I know! Odd useless fact: I worked in an old, dowdy dowager of a building on 42nd Street, just East of Broadway; my office was later torn down and replaced by the much more glamorous Condé Nast Building. I might have been sitting in Anna Wintour's exact chair thirty years earlier! Well, I could have.

MTV's first day, August 1, 1981:
33. "I Wanna Be a Lifeguard" by Blotto (1979)
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMlyqKa1p78&feature=related[/youtube]



Now, the following is quite different--I really, really loved this:

MTV's first day, August 1, 1981:
26. "Baker Street" by Gerry Rafferty (1978)
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1UOIO38Ghs[/youtube]

Winding you way down on Baker Street
light in your head and dead on your feet
well another crazy day
you'll drink the night away
and forget about everything

This city's desert makes you feel so cold
it's got so many people that it's got no soul
and its taking you so long
to find out you were wrong
when you thought it held everything

You used to think that it was so easy
you used to say that it was so easy
but you're trying, you're trying now

Another year and then you'll be happy
just one more year and then you'll be happy
but you're crying, you're crying now

Way down the street there's a lad in his place
he opens the door
and he's got that look on his face
and he asks you were you've been
you tell him who you've seen
and you talk about everything

He's got this dream about buying some land
he's gonna give up the booze and the one night stands
and then he'll settle down
in some quiet little town
and forget about everything

But you know he'll always keep moving
you know he's never gonna stop moving
cause he's rolling, he's a rolling stone

When you wake up it's a new morning
the sun is shining it's a new morning
you're goin', you're goin' home




LOVE all the wiki-info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker_Street_(song)

The song was featured in The Simpsons episode "Lisa's Sax", with Lisa Simpson playing the familiar saxophone solo at the end of the show. It was also featured in the pilot episode of the Comedy Central series Stella. Rafferty's original version (more precisely, the opening riff, before any lyrics are sung) is also used as the theme music of The Dave Ramsey Show, a well-known American personal finance talk radio show. It was also featured in the 2006 film A Guide to Recognizing Your Saints, and the 2007 film Zodiac. The similar title appears also in the Good Will Hunting movie. The saxophone riff is also used in the original amphibious cars episode of Top Gear.

The saxophone riff is heard on the radio of Gerry Standing's car in series 5 episode 6 of the BBC series New Tricks.



But then, uh-oh:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Rafferty

"Rafferty had checked himself into St Thomas' Hospital hospital for liver problems. However, he disappeared on August 1, 2008, leaving his belongings behind. The hospital filed a missing persons report."

Sigh. We hope you're ok, Mr. Rafferty.

 :(
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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #106 on: August 24, 2008, 11:17:49 am »
So much excellent music that has stood the test of time...still hummable after 40 years! And so many wonderful movies and good art, plays, musicals, and comedy. We thought it would be that way for the rest of our lives. Then, what happened? What changed to degrade the quality of our art and culture? I'm mystified. . .

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« Reply #107 on: August 24, 2008, 05:53:50 pm »
So much excellent music that has stood the test of time...still hummable after 40 years! And so many wonderful movies and good art, plays, musicals, and comedy. We thought it would be that way for the rest of our lives. Then, what happened? What changed to degrade the quality of our art and culture? I'm mystified. . .



Its just progression and normal change.

My parents thought the Beatles and a lot of the groups of the sixties, were "long haired hoodlums"...

Just as those who called Elvis a sex crazed swivel hipped anti-Christian.

Its what is called.......The Generation Gap.
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« Reply #108 on: August 25, 2008, 08:32:43 pm »

Now I'm in my dotage, I'll really take out the stops (it's in the 60's, alright--(late) 1964--I was ten and a half--):


shirley ellis - the name game  (1964)
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MJLi5_dyn0[/youtube]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Name_Game

The Name Game
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(....)

Shirley Ellis told Melody Maker magazine that the song was based on a game she played as a child. Children can often be seen chanting this rhyme:

Using the name Jack as an example, the song follows this pattern:

Jack, Jack, bo-back,
Banana-fana fo-fack
Fee-fi-mo-mack
Jack!

A verse can be created for any name, with X as the name and (X−1) as the name without the first consonant sound, as follows:

(X), (X), bo-b(X−1)
Banana-fana fo-f(X−1)
Fee-fi-mo-m(X−1)
X!

And if the name starts with a b, f, or m, that sound simply is not repeated. (For example: Billy becomes "Billy Billy bo-illy"; Fred becomes "banana fana fo-red"; Marsha becomes "fee fi mo-arsha".)

Playing the game with names such as Alice, Tucker, Chuck, Buck, Huck, Bart, Art, Mitch, Rich or Richie results in profanity.

 ;D

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Re: 1968 (Forty years later...)
« Reply #109 on: August 25, 2008, 10:20:00 pm »
Yay!  John, John bo-bon, banana-fana fo-fon, fe-fi-mo-mon, JOHN!  :-*

I heard this in the grocery store today and remembered how I loved it.  Corey Hart, 1985, Never Surrender:

[youtube=425,350]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="
&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="
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« Reply #110 on: August 25, 2008, 10:58:49 pm »
Ha! 
Meryl, Meryl bo-beryl, banana-fana fo-feryl, fe-fi-mo-eryl, MERYL!

I love Montreal, and I love the dreamy Montreal boy--Corey Hart! Can you believe this song is--Twenty Five Years OLD?? (Gasp!)

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Sunglasses at Night - Corey Hart      (1983)
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9p0Ac5bLlI&feature=related[/youtube]

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« Reply #111 on: August 25, 2008, 11:21:42 pm »

So much excellent music that has stood the test of time...still hummable after 40 years! And so many wonderful movies and good art, plays, musicals, and comedy. We thought it would be that way for the rest of our lives. Then, what happened? What changed to degrade the quality of our art and culture? I'm mystified. . .

This one's for you, Lee!  ;D

We Built This City - Starship       (1985)
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7flrwE-bZVo&feature=related[/youtube]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_Built_This_City
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