Author Topic: Importance of the Jimbo Scene  (Read 21287 times)

Offline Penthesilea

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Re: Importance of the Jimbo Scene
« Reply #110 on: February 08, 2009, 05:30:33 pm »
I suddenly realized one reason why Jack reacted so strongly when the bartender suggested he try calf-roping!! It was because he flashed back to the time on the mountain when Ennis told him his dad was a "fine calf-roper." Even though Jack didn't know about the horrible incident with Earl yet (he wouldn't find that out until the reunion) he still knew enuff about Ennis' dad to hate him and his ilk. Does this ring true for anyone else?


Huh? I second Buffy's question: why would Jack dislike, let alone hate Ennis's father (and his ilk) at this point of the story? Because of the "all rodeo cowboys was fuck-ups" comment?  - I don't think so. This was clearly teasingly said by Ennis. Jack couldn't know if Ennis's father had said this at all, or how and in which connection he had said it. After all, Ennis's father "was a fine roper" and did rodeo some, even when it was not much.

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Re: Importance of the Jimbo Scene
« Reply #111 on: February 08, 2009, 05:51:22 pm »
I just think Jack had a hunch that Ennis' family was responsible for Ennis being so repressed. For instance, one of the first things Jack asked Ennis was "Your folks run you off?"
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Re: Importance of the Jimbo Scene
« Reply #112 on: February 08, 2009, 06:04:12 pm »
I watched Brokeback Mountain on Friday. I was thinking about this thread, so I paid close attention to the Jack/Jimbo scene. Here is my take, and it may well have been already discussed:

1. Jimbo got uncomfortable after Jack's lingering stare. Jimbo looked away, then to the bar tender or staring off

2. He made the buckaroo comment, got up, put his money down, and walked away toward the group of guys over by the pool table

3. Jack turned on his stool and watched Jimbo walk away

4. Jack remained turned, watching Jimbo and the guys. At that point, the bar tender leaned forward and said, "you ever thought of calf-ropin'"?

IMO, what the bar tender was saying was something to the effect, 'you ever thought of trying to get a girlfriend' instead of coming on to guys. Jack didn't get it, and thought he was referring to calf-roping, which does require a good ropin' horse. They are very expensive.

Amazing how, after watching BBM for so many times, I still get little bits and pieces.

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Re: Importance of the Jimbo Scene
« Reply #113 on: February 08, 2009, 06:19:48 pm »
You sure surprise me Brad may I say!

I was hoping that you would see that scene with more meaning,
like Jack was told OFF, so to think of becoming a pederast!

You don't see that?

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Re: Importance of the Jimbo Scene
« Reply #114 on: February 08, 2009, 06:23:50 pm »
Sometimes when I watch that scene, I get the feeling that the bartender is flirting with Jack :)

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Re: Importance of the Jimbo Scene
« Reply #115 on: February 08, 2009, 06:40:05 pm »
Of course, he does buffy!

That is how he places Jack in an VULNERABLE position !!


No?

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Re: Importance of the Jimbo Scene
« Reply #116 on: February 08, 2009, 06:41:20 pm »
You sure surprise me Brad may I say!

I was hoping that you would see that scene with more meaning,
like Jack was told OFF, so to think of becoming a pederast!

You don't see that?

pederast? (had to wiki )  I have no clue, as usual, what you are talking about.

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Re: Importance of the Jimbo Scene
« Reply #117 on: February 08, 2009, 06:43:17 pm »
One told Jack to calf-rope, which to me means go get a young stud?

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Re: Importance of the Jimbo Scene
« Reply #118 on: February 08, 2009, 07:12:07 pm »
One told Jack to calf-rope, which to me means go get a young stud?

 :laugh: Artiste, you are a genius, I have never thought of those implications!

The bartender was trying to tell Jack, in a metaphorical way, that he needed to try to pick up teenage boys instead of men like Jimbo? Maybe, the film is chock full of visual and verbal metaphor, why not "calf roping" as a metaphor for sexual proclivity?

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Re: Importance of the Jimbo Scene
« Reply #119 on: February 08, 2009, 07:18:31 pm »
Merci beaucoup brokeplex!

Yes, that is how I interpret that that bartender knows some pederast already,
since he is after all not bartending for nothing? Can I go that far too?