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« on: June 10, 2006, 10:46:28 am »
At Lightning Flat the toy horse and rider that Ennis sees on Jacks desk. Childhood toy or a gift of Ennis of the one he carved? You can see tears in his eye as he picks it up. Very heartwrenching either way.
At first I always thought childhood toy but now I'm not so sure.
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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2006, 11:02:54 am »
I would guess 'childhood toy'. I recall the scene on the main camp tent during the 1st rainstorm and Ennis is carving what appears to be just a horse with no rider out of balsawood (but I don't know where he'd get balsawood up there).

That's not to say that Ennis couldn't have given Jack another gift during their long association.

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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2006, 11:47:32 am »
I haven't looked close enough to determine whether or not they are the same toy. I choose to think they are just because that, to me, is so profound -- and sad.  :'(
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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2006, 12:21:24 pm »
I think it's not the same figurine. The one Ennis carves has no rider on it.
Usually you carve figurines out of one piece of wood. Horse and Rider. Although it is surely possible to carve a horse, then a rider and put them together afterwards.

The horse Ennis carves is much chunkier (coarser?). It's not finished yet when we see it, it's still very raw, so everything is possible. But for my eyes, it's a different style of carving.

And the angle between the horse's head and his jugular is different. The horse carries his head in another way.

I'll attach two pics of the two figurines.
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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2006, 12:44:34 pm »
I always thought it was clearly a childhood toy - certainly not carved out of wood, but molded of some kind of plastic or composite material.  From his childhood -- I imagine boy-Jack dreaming of himself as a grown-up cowboy. There was also a glitch in that scene of Ennis in Jack's room:  he picks up the figurine and examines it, then sets it back down on the desk.  In the next view of the desk I don't see the figurine in the same place he set it. Also, I often wondered what happened to the horse Ennis was carving in the tent. Like to think he gave it to Jack, but he probably just threw it out when they moved back down off the mountain. For what it's worth . . .
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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2006, 06:36:48 pm »
I often wondered what happened to the horse Ennis was carving in the tent. Like to think he gave it to Jack, but he probably just threw it out when they moved back down off the mountain. For what it's worth . . .

And here I was, thinking I was the only person who hoped that Ennis gave that horse he was carving to Jack.  That wistful, far-off look on Ennis' face as he is holding the horse and the knife made me sure that he was thinking of Jack as he was carving.  I also noticed that as Ennis was carving the horse, he was lying on his side in the tent as he was in the infamous second tent scene with Jack... other side, but you get the idea.   

And when Jack's turn to carve came later in the movie, he was probably thinking of carving up L.D. Newsome instead of the turkey in front of him, but that is probably a thought for another thread!

I'd bet a can of Bettermost beans that Lureen found that little wooden horse when she cleaned out Jack's belongings.
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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2006, 12:23:19 am »
You betcha!  Even if Ennis tossed the little wooden horse while they were up there on the mountain, I'll bet Jack snatched it up on the sly, like he did Ennis' shirt. But if so, what did he do with it later?  Another mystery to wonder about . . . Iris
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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2006, 01:24:06 am »
Hello everyone,
   I'm new here, but I can contribute something to this thread.  I currently own the carved horse and knife used in the movie.  I bought it on Ebay, the prop man, Ken Wills, was selling many of the props used in the movie.  I was really lucky to acquire this beautiful piece from this amazing film.  Anyway, I contacted Ken and asked if he was planning to sell the horse and cowboy found in Jacks room.  He said that, that item came from set decoration and NOT the properties dept..  This leads me to believe that this "toy" found in Jack's room was not an integral part of the scene, otherwise it would be part of the PROPS department, and not just set decoration.  It was probably something Jack acquired after Brokeback, reminding him of Ennis (it is wearing a light colored hat).

  For those attending the San Fransisco screening of the movie on June 12-14, I will be displaying the horse and knife, with permission from the Castro Theater management, in the lobby for all to enjoy.

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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2006, 01:34:32 am »
Adrian, thank you so much for the honor you gave me tonight at the Castro, allowing me to hold that little horse in my hands.  Once, on IMDb, we had a thread going about what one or two things from the movie would we most want.  For me it was that horse.  Seeing it and hodling it tonight gave it to me.  I treasure that opportunity - and had my picture taken holding it.  I wish you the very best, Clarissa

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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2006, 02:20:22 am »
I currently own the carved horse and knife used in the movie.  I bought it on Ebay, the prop man, Ken Wills, was selling many of the props used in the movie.  I was really lucky to acquire this beautiful piece from this amazing film.

Oh my gosh Adrian. You are so lucky to have that horse! I envy you... definately! It sounds like it is in good hands though! :D
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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2006, 01:59:43 pm »
Well, whether or not the toy in Jack's room is exactly the same figure that Ennis was carving (I tend to think it was an old childhood toy of Jack's too), it serves the purpose of reminding Ennis of that element of Brokeback.  It certainly reminded all of us of the figure Ennis was carving... so it probably did the same for Ennis.  latjoreme made a great point in another thread, that seems very relevant here... she's noticed that Jack's room contains all sorts of elements that remind us/Ennis of the Brokeback summer.... the slanted white walls (remind us of the slanted canvas walls of the tent), the little rifles on the wall, the rock collection (reminds of the early scene where Ennis is building the fire circle with rocks), and yes the little cowboy toy reminds not only of the figure Ennis was carving, but it serves as a general reminder of Jack. 

I think it's quite lovely to think of that toy as evidence that Jack was dreaming of cowboys from a very young age... not only envisioning himself as a cowboy, but also maybe as a very early sign of his developing sexuality.  A toy cowboy is a completely typical toy that you'd expect to find in most kids' rooms... but for a gay kid it might have different meaning or secret meanings.  So, Ennis becomes the real-life manifestation of Jack's ideal cowboy (symbolized by this toy)... when Jack watches Ennis ride away in the famous long gaze following the flashback scene it's not hard to imagine that he's seeing Ennis as his dream-cowboy who's all of a sudden really his lover.  It's probably the kind of thing he'd never really dare hope or expect to come true.  And, likewise, I think Ennis sees Jack as a fulfillment of his own fascination with cowboys... back on the old board people made arguments concerning Ennis's urge to watch Jack on his horse, Jack riding away, etc. as early evidience of his growing attraction to Jack.  So, that little toy can carrying lots of meaning.  Most simply though, I think it reminds Ennis of his lost cowboy.
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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2006, 03:37:40 pm »
Thank you from me, too, Adrian.  I saw the horse and knife at the Castro on the 12th.  I wanted to touch them, but my fingers were all buttery from the popcorn I'd been sharing with Abe, so I held off.  It was so cool to see them both up close, though.

The first time I saw the movie, it wrecked me when Ennis saw and picked up the horse and cowboy.  It just struck me as poignant that maybe Ennis was discovering something he didn't know about Jack - that Jack liked to whittle, too.  I just assumed Jack had carved the figurine, and saw it as a commonality between the two of them.  Just like when I later read Jeff's "Some Sweet Life" and started weeping at my desk at work at the thought of Ennis looking at Jack's grave at the "grieving plain," never having known that Jack was just a nickname and that his given name was actually John C. Twist, Jr.

But I'm just assuming Jack carved it.  It could have been a gift from any number of people along the way, I suppose.  The idea that Ennis might have carved it is very romantic in its own way, too.
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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2006, 05:08:50 pm »
IMO: the two are not the same, Jack's is not handcarved, but Jack's is intended to remind us of Ennis'. (However, Adrian's tip about set decoration vs. props throws some doubt about whether it was intentional.)

I think they both carry deeper meanings, in any case. As Amanda says. Jack's shows that from an early age he was dreaming of cowboys -- certainly in the role-model way, and maybe also in the gay-kid way. That underscores the idea that Jack strives to fit that cowboy image himself, and falls for Ennis at least in part because in some ways Ennis effortlessly embodies it.

For Ennis, the riderless horse (especially in contrast to Jack's with a rider) may suggest his expectation/idea of himself always being alone.

And Amanda, much as I'd love to claim credit for that observation about symbols in Jack's bedroom, I cannot. I don't know whose idea it was, though.

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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2006, 05:35:49 pm »
And Amanda, much as I'd love to claim credit for that observation about symbols in Jack's bedroom, I cannot. I don't know whose idea it was, though.

Oops!  Sorry, I could have sworn it was you.  I know this topic has come up here and there in other threads.

Anyway, I like the contrast between Ennis whittling just a horse while Jack's toy has a rider.  I guess that in practical terms... the toy has to have a rider if it's meant to remind Ennis of Jack (I mean, if this is one of the ways this little cowboy toy is meant to function).  I'd think that a horse alone wouldn't specifically evoke Jack... it would still evoke Brokeback though I'm sure.
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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2006, 06:04:28 pm »
.....snip...  latjoreme made a great point in another thread, that seems very relevant here... she's noticed that Jack's room contains all sorts of elements that remind us/Ennis of the Brokeback summer.... the slanted white walls (remind us of the slanted canvas walls of the tent), the little rifles on the wall, the rock collection (reminds of the early scene where Ennis is building the fire circle with rocks), and yes the little cowboy toy reminds not only of the figure Ennis was carving, but it serves as a general reminder of Jack. ...snip...

OT but related to the fascinating list of points about Jack's room that relate to their Brokeback summer. I recently discovered another item in Jack's room of significance: it is an anchor on the wall above the bed, & Ennis's surname is Del Mar.  I read this somewhere recently but don't think it was on B'most.  I'm still relatively new to all this discussion - it's only taken 4 mths for the initial shock to wear off!
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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2006, 07:04:49 pm »
Nic, I bet you saw that over at the DC board's photo caption thread; - it's a regular haunt of mine - and they happened to just go into the Anchor&Del Mar connection.

I do love that imagery and the symbolism - an anchor, an implement of the sea - providing light in the dark during Jack's childhood.


Concerning the little toy horse and rider, I've imagined that to be a stand-in for the dark-haired movie star picture that Jack had on his bedroom wall in the short story and in at least one script draft I've seen. Using that toy instead of the picture, I think the movie emphazises the boy Jack's dreams of becoming a "real cowboy" and of him idolizing cowboy life in general, rather than possibly confusing that point by using some recognizable good-looking movie star dressed up in a cowboy role. The use of a generic faceless cowboy figure makes for less ambiguity IMO.

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« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2006, 12:29:34 am »
  If anyone is planning to be at the Atlanta screening on the 29th, I plan to be there with the carved horse and Jack knife from the movie.  I would gladly share it with any other fans who wish to see it.

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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2006, 10:37:09 am »
  If anyone is planning to be at the Atlanta screening on the 29th, I plan to be there with the carved horse and Jack knife from the movie.  I would gladly share it with any other fans who wish to see it.

How lovely!  Will it be on display in the lobby like it was at the Castro?  I will certainly alert my good friend up there who plans to attend to be on the lookout for it.  :)
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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2006, 05:10:07 pm »
I'm sorry if somebody already asked this question.

What is the little toy horse made of? I always thought it was made of wood (reinforcing my long disputed theory that Ennis actually carved the horse for Jack. I like to think he did anyhow) or is it made of metal. Some people over on IMDb tried to tell me it was a metal toy horse.
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« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2006, 05:30:44 pm »
I'm sorry if somebody already asked this question.

What is the little toy horse made of? I always thought it was made of wood (reinforcing my long disputed theory that Ennis actually carved the horse for Jack. I like to think he did anyhow) or is it made of metal. Some people over on IMDb tried to tell me it was a metal toy horse.

The horse appears to be made of balsawood. But, unless Ennis brought some up the mountain in his paper bag, there's nowhere in Wyoming where it is a native tree (I think). But realistically, it is a film prop, and it could be any kind of wood - I don't think it's metal - you couldn't carve metal with a bowie knife.

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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2006, 06:18:16 pm »
the wooden horse that Adrian brought to the Castro didn't look like balsa. I didn't touch the piece, because like Barb, I had butter on my hands. but from seeing it, it's a harder wood, though light in color like balsa.
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« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2006, 10:40:45 pm »
the wooden horse that Adrian brought to the Castro didn't look like balsa. I didn't touch the piece, because like Barb, I had butter on my hands. but from seeing it, it's a harder wood, though light in color like balsa.

The horse appears to be made of balsawood. But, unless Ennis brought some up the mountain in his paper bag, there's nowhere in Wyoming where it is a native tree (I think). But realistically, it is a film prop, and it could be any kind of wood - I don't think it's metal - you couldn't carve metal with a bowie knife.

Does this then mean that the two of you might support my theory that Ennis may have carved that little horse for Jack? I suggested this on IMDb a couple of times and caught seven kinds of hell for it!
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They show Ennis carving a little horse when he is sitting in the tent, and then later, at the end of the movie there is a little horse sitting on Jack's dresser. The horse on Jack's dresser did have a cowboy on it, and the horse Ennis was carving didn't, but this doesn't mean Ennis couldn't have carved another toy for Jack later on. Or perhaps carved a little cowboy and then glued it on the horse he was carving in the tent. Anything is possible. But Ennis RECOGNIZED the horse on Jack's dresser. At least that is what it looked like to me!! I think he carved it. :)
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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2006, 10:49:48 pm »
Does this then mean that the two of you might support my theory that Ennis may have carved that little horse for Jack? I suggested this on IMDb a couple of times and caught seven kinds of hell for it!
 ???

David, I would never give you even one kind of hell for it. But I'll have to say that the one in Jack's room looks pretty intricate, and Ennis didn't appear to be THAT good a carver. Still, I support the right of any viewer to interpret any ambiguous thing any way they like!

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« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2006, 11:00:22 pm »
David, I would never give you even one kind of hell for it. But I'll have to say that the one in Jack's room looks pretty intricate, and Ennis didn't appear to be THAT good a carver. Still, I support the right of any viewer to interpret any ambiguous thing any way they like!

I was always willing to admit I could be wrong. Like you said, it is ambiguous. And probably, I am wrong. It sure is a nice thought though. So, I guess I will keep on thinking it.  :)
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« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2006, 11:26:30 pm »
Here is what I think (I have no hard evidence, it is just a gut feeling).

I think Ennis was carving the horse in the tent as a way to pass the time (what I would have done) - and then quite possibly have given it to Jack some time after it was done, but did not make it with Jack in mind, at least not at first.

I think the horse and rider that Ennis focused on in Jack's boyhood room in Lightning Flat was a potent reminder of that earlier time - associative memories are very powerful and would certainly have brought tears since Ennis had strong feelings for Jack which included horses and mountains and their long-ago time together.

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« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2006, 11:46:46 pm »
It sure is a nice thought though. So, I guess I will keep on thinking it.  :)

I like to do that, too!  :)

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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2006, 02:19:29 am »
Here is what I think (I have no hard evidence, it is just a gut feeling).

I think Ennis was carving the horse in the tent as a way to pass the time (what I would have done) - and then quite possibly have given it to Jack some time after it was done, but did not make it with Jack in mind, at least not at first.

I think the horse and rider that Ennis focused on in Jack's boyhood room in Lightning Flat was a potent reminder of that earlier time - associative memories are very powerful and would certainly have brought tears since Ennis had strong feelings for Jack which included horses and mountains and their long-ago time together.

:)

Gregg... you know what? I could actually live with your theory!

Thank you so much for posting it! It makes sense, and yet it is beautiful and poignant too.  :)
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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2006, 02:34:07 am »
it's too vague to tell whether the horse was or wasn't carved by Ennis for Jack. There's not evidence to say one way or the other. To me the horse is part of the many evidence of Jack's failed dreams. It reminds us that Jack wanted to be a rodeo cowboy, which he did become but was never successful at it. A small rifle also exist in the room, reminding us how Jack never was a good shooter.
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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2006, 04:06:11 am »
it's too vague to tell whether the horse was or wasn't carved by Ennis for Jack. There's not evidence to say one way or the other. To me the horse is part of the many evidence of Jack's failed dreams. It reminds us that Jack wanted to be a rodeo cowboy, which he did become but was never successful at it. A small rifle also exist in the room, reminding us how Jack never was a good shooter.

Starboardlight -

I guess I have to take your word for it, since you actually saw the horse in person. Actually you are  correct, I think. I conjure many things in my mind, and sometimes I  guess I might get a little too "Hollywood".

I just like to think that perhaps... maybe....

Ya know? :)
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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2006, 06:04:56 am »
I'm sorry if somebody already asked this question.

What is the little toy horse made of? I always thought it was made of wood (reinforcing my long disputed theory that Ennis actually carved the horse for Jack. I like to think he did anyhow) or is it made of metal. Some people over on IMDb tried to tell me it was a metal toy horse.
The horse appears to be made of balsawood. But, unless Ennis brought some up the mountain in his paper bag, there's nowhere in Wyoming where it is a native tree (I think). But realistically, it is a film prop, and it could be any kind of wood - I don't think it's metal - you couldn't carve metal with a bowie knife.


Hi guys,

  I emailed the props man who sold me the horse, and although I didn't ask the kind of wood, I did find out that it was carved by a Brian Faul of Calgary.  The wood seems like pine.  Also I was a little worried of all the buttered popcorn fingers at the Castro, but everyone was so careful and respectful. 

  David, I mentioned a while ago that originally I did think that it was the same horse as in Jacks bedroom, however, when I asked the props man if he were planning to sell the other toy horse and rider, he said that it was part of SET DECORATION and not PROPS.  Therefore it cannot be an integral part of the story, but merely "atmosphere" for that very melancholic scene.  I hoped it was 'the' horse, but I think it was just a toy acquired by Jack that reminded him of Ennis and them earlier Brokeback days..............maybe??
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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2006, 08:25:49 am »
it's too vague to tell whether the horse was or wasn't carved by Ennis for Jack. There's not evidence to say one way or the other.

Far be it from me to contradict anybody's preferred way of seeing things. But I do think that if the filmmakers intended to indicate that the horse was carved by Ennis for Jack, the movie would have made it clearer. Shown that Ennis had the skills to carve such an elaborate sculpture, shown Jack holding it on Brokeback, zoomed in to show that the one in Jack's room was handcarved wood (Ennis' initials on it) ... whatever. If there's any big discovery to be made in that room, I think it's in the closet.

However, I also believe in this little space of reality that exists beyond what the fillmmakers' intentions, where Ennis and Jack just go about living their lives, doing things that just didn't happen to get captured on film. So in that reality, I'm perfectly willing to believe that Ennis carved the horse for Jack.


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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2006, 10:53:41 am »
I just like to think that perhaps... maybe....

Ya know? :)

he he. yeah, i know.  ;)
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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #32 on: November 10, 2006, 09:21:54 pm »
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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2006, 10:57:33 pm »
Hello everyone,
   I'm new here, but I can contribute something to this thread.  I currently own the carved horse and knife used in the movie.  I bought it on Ebay, the prop man, Ken Wills, was selling many of the props used in the movie.  I was really lucky to acquire this beautiful piece from this amazing film.  Anyway, I contacted Ken and asked if he was planning to sell the horse and cowboy found in Jacks room.  He said that, that item came from set decoration and NOT the properties dept..  This leads me to believe that this "toy" found in Jack's room was not an integral part of the scene, otherwise it would be part of the PROPS department, and not just set decoration.  It was probably something Jack acquired after Brokeback, reminding him of Ennis (it is wearing a light colored hat).

  For those attending the San Fransisco screening of the movie on June 12-14, I will be displaying the horse and knife, with permission from the Castro Theater management, in the lobby for all to enjoy.

Adrian

Oh MY God!!! you are so lucky!!
envy you!!
but it's in good hand.
Congratulation!

i heard they sell the shirts. wonder who they land to. hope in a fan
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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2006, 11:35:50 am »
Adrian makes his own luck! He worked really hard to acquire that horse and knife and I was honored to spend some time with it at the Wonder Bar in Casper, Wyoming, when he and I and several other Brokies met in mid-October. We also attended the Casper literary event where we met Annie Proulx at a panel discussion on The Myth and Reality of the Cowboy. It is definitely made of pine, and, as AP said in the story, the lodgepole pine is the dominant tree species in that area. You'll notice an ax on a stump in the camp, and that is where Ennis undoubtedly obtained the block that became the Horse. Altho the Horse is primitive in style, you can see by the knife marks that it was carved by a skilled hand. It has sturdy tho graceful flanks and its legs and neck are in good proportion to the body.

The toy horse, on the other hand, is rather stilted and skinny. It has a stiff look about it. It appears to be made of metal. The rider has a top-heavy looking hat. When he picked up the toy horse, Ennis, if I read him correctly, would have thought of that other horse that he had whittled, how warm and full of life force it was, and how he had tossed it away just like he tossed away the log that last day on the mountain. And that is when you see the tears appear.
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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2006, 05:02:45 pm »
Oh MY God!!! you are so lucky!!
envy you!!
but it's in good hand.
Congratulation!

Here is the horse and knife in it's home when I take it to BBM events:



Adrian

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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2006, 10:40:20 pm »


 When he picked up the toy horse, Ennis, if I read him correctly, would have thought of that other horse that he had whittled, how warm and full of life force it was, and how he had tossed it away just like he tossed away the log that last day on the mountain. And that is when you see the tears appear.


FR, i am afraid i don't get what you are saying... what other horse? though  i got it about tossing the wood log on the last day.
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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2007, 08:39:15 pm »
I think the two horses in question are (1) the animal/ horse that Ennis appears to be whittling in the tent up on Brokeback in the summer of '63 and (2) the horse we see in Jack's room at the end.










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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #38 on: March 08, 2008, 06:46:15 pm »
Adrian, you have one of the toy horses?

Was there another? Where is that one?
Does anyone know?


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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2013, 10:36:51 am »
*bumping* for X-man and for Throwback Thursday

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Re: Toy horse and rodeo rider
« Reply #40 on: September 21, 2013, 03:05:49 pm »
Here is the horse and knife in it's home when I take it to BBM events:



Adrian




Wow, I've never seen this picture before!

How wonderful to see the horse Ennis carved so up and close!

Thanks for bumping the thread, Chrissi!

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