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Women Who Inspire
« on: October 30, 2008, 01:16:33 pm »


If you had to choose one woman (from the past or present, fictional or non-fictional)
as a role model, a mentor, a heroine, a source of inspiration...
Who would it be and why?  :)



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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2008, 04:59:19 pm »
Rosa Parks..

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Rosa Louise McCauley Parks (February 4, 1913 – October 24, 2005) was an African American civil rights activist whom the U.S. Congress later called "Mother of the Modern-Day Civil Rights Movement".

On December 1, 1955 in Montgomery, Alabama, Parks refused to obey bus driver James Blake's order that she give up her seat to make room for a white passenger.
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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2008, 06:30:21 pm »
I never get tired of the Rosa Parks story.  She is an inspiration for all women yesterday and today. 

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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2008, 11:46:17 am »


   Eleanor Roosevelt,    she was a successful president, when America needed one the most.  Her
husband cheated on her, she was very unattractive personally, and she knew it.  She was a most
intelligent and caring woman.  She was all that, during the time that women were not even considered
to be more than a reflection of their husband and family.



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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2008, 03:29:00 pm »


If I had to choose one fictional character who inspires me..
it would be Xena.  Anyone here watch the show?





Here is an excerpt from an article that pretty much sums up why Xena (& Gabrielle) are at the top of my list...



What we owe Xena
By Cathy Young
http://dir.salon.com/story/ent/feature/2005/09/15/xena/
...

 How was Xena a female pioneer? Let me count the ways. She had no male support or regular romantic interest. She didn't, unlike Wonder Woman or the Bionic Woman, have a conventionally feminine day-to-day alternate identity, though on a mission she could pose as a Roman matron, a virgin priestess or an exotic dancer. Xena was not "strong but feminine"; she was unapologetically strong and unapologetically female, sexy and powerful, unafraid to get sweaty and dirty on the job, and all the more beautiful for it. Nor did she care about pleasing anyone: In one memorable exchange, a slick opportunist seeking to enlist Xena as an ally says, "I like you," and she shoots back, "Don't. I'm not a likable person." (As Lawless once said, Xena is "a good person who doesn't think she is.")

A flawed hero haunted by her dark past, even the "good" Xena could be angry, arrogant and, at times, driven by rage and revenge. She could also be vulnerable and tender, capable of caring and feeling deeply -- [Lucy] Lawless did a superb job of capturing this blend of toughness and vulnerability -- but those qualities always felt like aspects of her humanness, not reassurances of her womanhood. Yet while she pushed the limits of how much like a male hero a heroine could be, Xena was the first and probably is still the only action heroine who was also a mother -- not counting warrior moms who fought only to protect their young, like Linda Hamilton's Sarah Connor in "Terminator 2." She was, safe to say, the only one who gave birth and breast-fed onscreen.

The show's groundbreaking depiction of women was not limited to Xena herself. Her sidekick and friend, Gabrielle (Renee O'Connor), a village girl who had left home to travel with Xena and pursue her dream of becoming a warrior, had her own heroic journey. And there were plenty of other strong female characters: the vengeance-obsessed warrior Callisto, whose family had been killed in one of warlord Xena's raids; the charismatic guru Najara, who was either a noble crusader against evil or a dangerous fanatic; Lao Ma, a fictional Chinese philosopher-empress whom the series whimsically credited with writing the Tao Te Ching; and Boadicea, Britain's historical warrior queen.

...

Xena and Gabrielle fought a variety of mostly male baddies, but they were not fighting sexism or the patriarchy. Gender, in the Xenaverse, just wasn't a big deal: No one questioned Xena's ability to fight and command, or Gabrielle's desire to be a warrior, because they were girls. Ironically, one of the few episodes that dealt explicitly with gender issues introduced a man-hating female outlaw just to teach her the lesson that it's not women vs. men, it's good people vs. bad. In fact, plenty of the show's good people were men; its primary male regular, Xena and Gabrielle's occasional tag-along, Joxer (Ted Raimi), was a comically bumbling warrior wannabe -- but also, in his own way, a true hero willing to risk his life for his friends. Meanwhile, the Amazons were not an idealized sisterhood but tribes with their own power struggles, conflicts and tyrannies. Women on "Xena" were simply human, no better or worse than men: feminism as it ought to be.  ...




Adding a little more to that...

The intense relationship between Xena & Gabrielle on the show grabbed me and intrigued me because I had never come upon a TV show at the time (or since, really) where two women loved, lived, fought together ... each describing the other as her 'soulmate'... till the very end.





That was my long-winded way of saying:  Xena kicks ass.  ;)
 







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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2008, 09:13:32 pm »
I really admire women authors, particularly those who lived during times when writing books was not considered a natural or even appropriate occupation for women: The Brontë sisters, Jane Austen, George Eliot (which reminds me, I'd really like to read Middlemarch), Virginia Woolf.


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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2008, 05:37:04 pm »
Coya Knutson



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"Knutson was the first woman elected to Congress from Minnesota, and is remembered today for the notorious "Coya, Come Home" letter supposedly written by her then-estranged husband, Andy, urging her to give up her seat and not seek reelection in 1958. Political rivals had put him up to it, and it was seen as instrumental in her ensuing defeat. The incident is often cited as an example of sexism in American politics."

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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2008, 05:46:43 pm »
Cockacoeske

She was the cousin of Pocahontas, and lead the Powhatan nation after her father, Opchanacanough, was executed by the English when he was nearly 100 years old.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockacoeske

She had to navagate a world on intrigue as the English began to supplant the native one. She gathered her peoples in the swamps where food was redily available and they could keep a low profile.
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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2008, 05:59:40 pm »
The incident is often cited as an example of sexism in American politics."

Oh, and you DON'T want to see the T-shirts they made about her.


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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2008, 08:37:24 pm »
Terry Gross

Well she looks a lot like Annie Proulx, but I don't think they are related.



She has interviewed thousands of people, the famous, the infamous and the not so famous. She is a tiny woman, I got to meet her once and I asked her of all the people in history she would like to have interview who sticks out and she said : Rogers and Hart!

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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2008, 04:01:01 pm »
Lillian Moller Gilbreth


Wikipedia:

Lillian Moller Gilbreth (May 24, 1878 – January 2, 1972) was one of the first working female engineers holding a PhD.

She is arguably the first true industrial/organizational psychologist. She and her husband Frank Bunker Gilbreth, Sr. were pioneers in the field of industrial engineering. Their interest in time and motion study may have had something to do with the fact that they had an extremely large family. The books Cheaper By The Dozen and Belles on Their Toes are the story of their family life with their twelve children.

She served as an advisor to Presidents Hoover, Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson on matters of civil defense, war production and rehabilitation of the physically handicapped.

She and husband Frank have a permanent exhibit in The Smithsonian National Museum of American History and her portrait hangs in the National Portrait Gallery.


Not only was she an engineer and psychologist, not only did she have a PhD and 22 honorary doctorates , she also brought up her many children (all of whom finished college) largely as a single mother after her husband's early death.

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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2008, 04:27:20 pm »
I loved CBTD and BOTT when I was a kid!  :D


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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2008, 08:09:27 pm »
A woman who inspires me worked for the predeccesor of the CIA in Asia until her mid-thirties, when she married and started a new career. She became a household name and was even parodied on Saturday Night Live! She inspired millions of people to try new things and raised enjoyment of everyday life to new levels in a nation of drudges. Her message of moderation in all things is out of fashion now in the rush to adopt new fads but her emphasis on quality, care, and thoughtfulness endures.

Who is she?

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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2008, 09:32:10 pm »
Who is she?

Does she share a first name with the author of "The Battle Hymn of the Republic"?


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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2008, 11:01:25 pm »



               Julia Childs?



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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2008, 11:16:13 pm »
I do believe you are speaking of one of Boston's finest:  Julia Child. 

I have been fortunate to have met her, both here in Boston and also in California. 

She was a giant among women.

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« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2008, 11:30:37 pm »
She was a giant among women.

Literally as well as figuratively friend! Yes, you and Katherine and Janice are right!! I see that Julia is more well known than I thought!!
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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2008, 11:43:52 pm »
Literally as well as figuratively friend! Yes, you and Katherine and Janice are right!! I see that Julia is more well known than I thought!!


Well, you had me stumped for a while. The SNL reference was a good clue, though.


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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2008, 01:00:34 am »
The person who inspired me most is not famous, She was a Polish Jew who survived Auschwitz. She had no hearing in one ear, because of the beatings, and no hair, all fell out through shock.

She was the mother of my best friend from age 4-18. The womans strength and beauty amazed me. She was  so forgiving,it used to put some of my petty sulks,to shame.

I remember thinking even at a young age, that if you can survive something like that, and emerge, still forgiving,then that would be a pretty good role model to copy.

I still feel that, forgiving is hard, but it sets you free. I  wonder whether it is all meant to be. I love my oldest son very much, but I have had to forgive him so many things. Not to mention a whole host of other people.

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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2008, 02:46:28 am »
Harriet Tubman

She very much inspires me. :)




From Wikipedia:

Harriet Tubman (born Araminta Ross; c. 1820 – 10 March 1913) was an African-American abolitionist, humanitarian, and Union spy during the U.S. Civil War. After escaping from captivity, she made thirteen missions to rescue over seventy slaves[1] using the network of antislavery activists and safe houses known as the Underground Railroad. She later helped John Brown recruit men for his raid on Harpers Ferry, and in the post-war era struggled for women's suffrage.


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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2008, 02:53:22 am »
Helen Keller

Because she overcame what seemed to be insurmountable odds. She reminds me every day that nothing is impossible. :)

She was blind AND deaf.

I love this picture of her sitting on the window seat and petting the dog. It's so sweet. :-*



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Helen Adams Keller (June 27, 1880 – June 1, 1968) was an American author, activist, and lecturer. She was the first deafblind person to graduate from college.

The story of how Keller's teacher, Annie Sullivan, broke through the isolation imposed by a near complete lack of language, allowing the girl to blossom as she learned to communicate, has become known worldwide through the dramatic depictions of the play and film The Miracle Worker.

A prolific author, Keller was well traveled and was outspoken in her opposition to war. She campaigned for women's suffrage, workers' rights, and socialism, as well as many other progressive causes.




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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2008, 03:01:20 am »
Anne Frank

From the mouths of babes....





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Annelies Marie "Anne" Frank (pronunciation (help·info)) (12 June 1929 – early March 1945) was a Jewish girl born in the city of Frankfurt am Main in Weimar Germany. She gained international fame posthumously following the publication of her diary which documents her experiences hiding during the German occupation of the Netherlands in World War II.

Anne and her family moved to Amsterdam in 1933 after the Nazis gained power in Germany, and were trapped by the occupation of the Netherlands, which began in 1940. As persecutions against the Jewish population increased, the family went into hiding in July 1942 in hidden rooms in her father Otto Frank's office building. After two years, the group was betrayed and transported to concentration camps. Seven months after her arrest, Anne Frank died of typhus in the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp, within days of the death of her sister, Margot Frank. Her father Otto, the only survivor of the group, returned to Amsterdam after the war to find that her diary had been saved, and his efforts led to its publication in 1947. It was translated from its original Dutch and first published in English in 1952 as The Diary of a Young Girl.

The diary, which was given to Anne on her 13th birthday, chronicles her life from 12 June 1942 until 1 August 1944. It has been translated into many languages, has become one of the world's most widely read books, and has been the basis for several plays and films. Anne Frank has been acknowledged for the quality of her writing, and has become one of the most renowned and most discussed victims of the Holocaust.

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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2008, 12:53:41 pm »
I had the pleasure of briefly meeting Dr. Alexa Canady years ago.  From "The HistoryMakers":





Dr. Alexa Irene Canady-Davis was the first African American woman in the United States to become a neurosurgeon. Canady-Davis was born to Elizabeth Hortense (Golden) Canady and Dr. Clinton Canady, Jr., a dentist, on November 7, 1950, in Lansing, Michigan. After graduating from Lansing High School in 1967, Canady-Davis received her B.S. degree from the University of Michigan in 1971 and her M.D. degree (cum laude) from the College of Medicine at the University of Michigan in 1975. Between 1975 and 1976, Canady-Davis completed an internship at Yale-New Haven Hospital. She next trained as a resident in neurosurgery at the University of Minnesota between 1976 and 1981.

After a fellowship in pediatric surgery at Children's Hospital in Philadelphia between 1981 and 1982, Canady-Davis returned home to Michigan and joined the Neurosurgery Department at Detroit's Henry Ford Hospital. In 1983, she was hired at Children's Hospital of Michigan where she later became Chief of Neurosurgery in 1987. Before that, Canady-Davis was certified by the American Board of Neurological Surgery in 1984. In 1985, she began teaching at Wayne State University School of Medicine as a Clinical Instructor of Neurosurgery. In 1997, she was elevated to Professor of Neurosurgery at Wayne's School of Medicine. In 1988, she married George Davis, a U.S. Navy recruiter. From 1987 to 2001, Canady-Davis was Chief of Neurosurgery at Children's Hospital of Michigan. Her areas of expertise are cranio-facial abnormalities, hydrocephalus, tumors of the brain, and congenital spine abnormalities.

Upon retirement from the position of Chief of Neurosurgery in 2001, Canady-Davis moved to Pensacola, Florida with her husband, also retired—a city that he had lived in during part of his career in the Navy. But, after several years of retirement, Canady-Davis was lured back to surgery as a consultant and to a part-time surgical practice at the Sacred Heart Medical Group Hospital.

Canady-Davis has received numerous professional recognitions, including being named Woman of the Year by the American Women's Medical Association in 1993, as well as being inducted into the Michigan Women's Hall of Fame. She mentors young people by speaking at high schools in the Pensacola area, hoping that her accomplishments are helping to inspire the dreams of younger generations.

Canady-Davis was interviewed by The HistoryMakers October 16, 2006.



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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2008, 06:22:21 pm »
You all are coming up with wonderfully grand people.  The first person I thought of was semi-fictional Jo March, after she grew up. 

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« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2008, 07:15:37 pm »
You all are coming up with wonderfully grand people.  The first person I thought of was semi-fictional Jo March, after she grew up. 

The first person I  thought of was fully nonfictional Louisa May Alcott, after she grew up!

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« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2008, 10:36:56 pm »
We need some women rockers on here! If the selection below seems a little boomery, it's because back in the '60s and '70s, unlike today, "woman rocker" was practically an oxymoron. Seriously. There were hardly any women in rock when I was growing up. As a teenager, it was a bit hard for me to connect, personally, with Eleanor Roosevelt or Helen Keller, to see them as people who had anything to do with my life. But I could relate to rock and roll, and these women were true gutsy pioneers:

Grace Slick. My brother once slammed Jefferson Airplane, something about "Grace Slick howling into the microphone." I loved that, because it's true -- she does howl into the microphone! But that's just what I like about her.
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Cher, pre-plastic surgery (or at least, mostly) and looking fabulous. The original Sonny and Cher were a bit too early even for me, but I sure remember their variety show, and Cher's perfect four-inch nails:
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Tina Turner, strong and powerful as always:
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Chrissie Hynde, who I think about at least every third time I put on eyeliner:
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Debbie Harry,
looking so cute and young (as opposed to now, when she looks cute and middle-aged) I love the little face she makes at about 1:30, with the line "people stop and stare at me."
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Of course, we have to have to have a Madonna. I was never a big fan, but I loved this song -- perhaps because when it was popular I was crazy for someone (unwisely, as usual!  ;D).
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Stevie Nicks.
This is sort of anachronistic, because unlike the others this isn't from her earlier years -- it was recorded long after the song was a hit. But even though I'm not the hugest Fleetwood Mac fan, I think this version is so poignant. First, because it's more appropriate for her life stage (mine, as well!) and second, because it's a duet with the very person she must mainly be referring to:
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« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2008, 10:58:00 pm »
Leave it to Katherine to rock out this thread!

Grace Slick!  The Acid Queen!  Yeah!

Chrissi Hynde!  She is too cool for this world.  (I even have her autograph!)

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« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2008, 05:01:23 am »
The first person I  thought of was fully nonfictional Louisa May Alcott, after she grew up!

 :-*



I've been reading about Louisa May Alcott recently, and found this nice quote on Wikipedia:

Although the Jo character in Little Women was based on Louisa May Alcott, she, unlike Jo, never married. Alcott explained her "spinsterhood" in an interview with Louise Chandler Moulton, "... because I have fallen in love with so many pretty girls and never once the least bit with any man."[2]'






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« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2008, 10:26:41 am »
I've been reading about Louisa May Alcott recently, and found this nice quote on Wikipedia:

Although the Jo character in Little Women was based on Louisa May Alcott, she, unlike Jo, never married. Alcott explained her "spinsterhood" in an interview with Louise Chandler Moulton, "... because I have fallen in love with so many pretty girls and never once the least bit with any man."[2]'

That is interesting, but I find it sad. Makes me think of all the women throughout history who were spinsters because they fell in love with pretty girls instead of men and couldn't do anything about it.


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« Reply #29 on: November 24, 2008, 06:09:24 pm »
That is interesting, but I find it sad. Makes me think of all the women throughout history who were spinsters because they fell in love with pretty girls instead of men and couldn't do anything about it.



Oh, I definitely think that probably many "spinsters" and "old-maids" in history were lesbians, or extremely independent women of any orientation.  It's interesting that those terms were meant to be put-downs in their day, but I tend to look at those words as indicating pretty positive things (from a feminist point of view).  But, the loneliness and the latentness/ repression implied in those terms are pretty sad at the same time.

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« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2008, 10:25:45 am »
Oh, I definitely think that probably many "spinsters" and "old-maids" in history were lesbians, or extremely independent women of any orientation.  It's interesting that those terms were meant to be put-downs in their day, but I tend to look at those words as indicating pretty positive things (from a feminist point of view).  But, the loneliness and the latentness/ repression implied in those terms are pretty sad at the same time.

I once had this great idea to do an oral history of "old maids" -- go around interviewing never-married women, particularly older ones, about why things worked out that way and how they felt about their lives. It could have been really fascinating.

Unfortunately, like most of my ideas, it never come to pass.


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« Reply #31 on: November 25, 2008, 10:35:59 am »
I once had this great idea to do an oral history of "old maids" -- go around interviewing never-married women, particularly older ones, about why things worked out that way and how they felt about their lives. It could have been really fascinating.

Unfortunately, like most of my ideas, it never come to pass.



Heya K!  Well, it doesn't really seem too late to tackle this project if you feel so inclined and the project still interests you.



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« Reply #32 on: November 26, 2008, 10:27:59 pm »
Heya K!  Well, it doesn't really seem too late to tackle this project if you feel so inclined and the project still interests you.





What A said.  I'd read it.

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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #33 on: November 26, 2008, 10:43:30 pm »
Thanks, Buds! It could really be interesting to do. I'll put it back on my list.

Unlike Jack, I do have some time ...


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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2008, 09:39:30 am »
Odetta has died.



Rosa Parks was her No. 1 fan, and Martin Luther King, Jr., called her the queen of American folk music. Odetta's stage presence was regal enough: planted on stage like an oak tree no one would dare cut down, wearing a guitar high on her chest, she could envelop Carnegie Hall with her powerful contralto as other vocalists might fill a phone booth. This was not some pruny European monarch but a stout, imperious queen of African-American music. She used that amazing instrument to bear witness to the pain and perseverance of her ancestors. Some folks sing songs. Odetta testified.

Her death on Dec. 2 in New York City at 77 from heart failure, coupled with that of South African singer Miriam Makeba three weeks ago, writes finis and fulfillment to 50 years of pursuing self-determination through song, of spreading the word through music. For a handful of black singers, their discography is an aural history, centuries deep, of abduction, enslavement, social and sexual abuse by the whites in power — and of the determination first to outlive the ignominy branded on the race, then to overcome it. In her commanding presence, charismatic delivery and determination to sing black truth to white power, Odetta was the female Paul Robeson.

Born in Birmingham, Ala., on New Year's Eve, 1930, and raised in Los Angeles, Odetta Holmes had a big voice early on; she was schooled in opera from the age of 13. Appearing in a tour of the musical Finian's Rainbow in her late teens, she started to lend her classical and musical-stage training to the folk repertoire around 1950. Like Harry Belafonte, Leon Bibb and Makeba, Odetta played the swanker nightclubs before the big (mostly white) folk-music surge kicked in later in the decade. Odetta Sings Ballads and Blues, the 1956 Tradition LP with definitively scalding interpretations of "Muleskinner, Easy Rider" and "God's Gonna Cut You Down," announced the arrival of a voice whose sonic and emotive power could raise the dead and reach the deaf.

During the folk boom, each Odetta gig, in coffee house or a concert hall, was a master class of work songs, folk songs, church songs, and an eloquent tutorial in raw American history. Identifiable from the first syllable, her voice fused the thrill of gospel, the techniques of art song, — the wisdom that subtlety sometimes trumps volume — and the desperate wail of blues. If a line could be drawn from Bessie Smith to Janis Joplin, from Mahalia Jackson to Maria Callas, it would have to go through Odetta.

Her resonance was literal, political — few civil rights rallies of the early '60s were complete without an Odetta rendition of "We shall Overcome" — and cultural. "The first thing that turned me on to folk singing was Odetta," Bob Dylan once said, and listening to that Tradition album helped persuade the young rocker to switch from electric to acoustic guitar. Odetta returned the favor in 1965, recording an LP of Dylan songs with an emphasis on the antiwar numbers rather than Dylan's sheaf of civil-rights ballads.

In later years Odetta collaborated on a dozen or more albums (dueting with Nanci Griffith, for instance, on Other Voices, Too. She recorded a collection of Christmas spirituals, and did tribute albums to Ella Fitzgerald, Leadbelly and blues thrushes of the 1930s. In her 60s and 70s she still could sing the hide off a traditional number. Evidence: this rendition of "Midnight Special."

For Odetta and many other survivors of the Civil Rights Movement, the election of Barack Obama as president signaled a fulfilling chapter in the struggle. As she sank toward death in New York City, Odetta had an Obama poster taped on the wall across from her bed. Hospitalized with kidney failure on Monday, she kept willing herself to live because, her manager Doug Yeager wrote on a fansite just before her death, "Odetta believes she is going to sing at Obama's inauguration and I believe that is the reason she is still alive."

She sang of the past, and for the future. Come Jan. 20, her songs will be heard on the internal iTunes of the people she touched. Some voices can never be stilled.

http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1863667,00.html

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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #35 on: December 03, 2008, 10:46:10 am »
Interesting piece, Paul, thanks for posting.

I had a question about this, though:

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"The first thing that turned me on to folk singing was Odetta," Bob Dylan once said, and listening to that Tradition album helped persuade the young rocker to switch from electric to acoustic guitar.

Dylan is most famous for switching from acoustic to electric, at the Newport Folk Festival in 1965. So did he go from very early electric to acoustic, inspired by Odetta, then back to electric again in '65 (which doesn't seem likely, because I think he played acoustic from the get-go) or did he go from acoustic to electric to acoustic again at some later date (but the article makes it sound like he was young when he did it), or is it a misprint?Could it have meant that  Odetta's album inspired him to go from acoustic to electric, though that seems unlikely too?

Or am I missing something?


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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #36 on: December 03, 2008, 03:13:23 pm »
I once had this great idea to do an oral history of "old maids" -- go around interviewing never-married women, particularly older ones, about why things worked out that way and how they felt about their lives. It could have been really fascinating.

Unfortunately, like most of my ideas, it never come to pass.

So, why don't you do it now? Sounds interesting.
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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2008, 04:25:30 am »
Interesting piece, Paul, thanks for posting.

I had a question about this, though:

Dylan is most famous for switching from acoustic to electric, at the Newport Folk Festival in 1965.


Good catch, Eagle Eye. 
 
Dylan goes electric - Maggie's Farm

[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px-ytUstFBI[/youtube]


We can include this in the thread, because Maggie was a woman who inspired the song.  :)

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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2008, 04:38:02 pm »
Leave it to Katherine to rock out this thread!

Grace Slick!  The Acid Queen!  Yeah!

Chrissi Hynde!  She is too cool for this world.  (I even have her autograph!)

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"I'll Stand By You":  a pure expression of love.


Awesome posts Paul and Katherine!! Did you hear Boots of Chinese Plastic? I posted the lyrics here:

http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php/topic,9381.msg437750.html#msg437750

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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2008, 07:07:27 pm »
So, why don't you do it now? Sounds interesting.

Thank you, Natali. Thanks to your supportive comments and others, I am giving it some more thought!  :D


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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #40 on: December 15, 2008, 04:52:27 pm »
Thank you, Natali. Thanks to your supportive comments and others, I am giving it some more thought!  :D

Your welcome. I would like to read it!
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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #41 on: December 15, 2008, 05:03:44 pm »
Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz, mexican poet and humanist (1651-1695)

Biography of Sor Juana

KEY DATES (following new research by Octavio Paz):

1648: Juana Inés Ramírez born as illegitimate daughter into a poor family on the farmstead of San Miguel Nepantla;
1656: Sent to live with maternal aunt's family in México (City); learnt Latin;
1664: Enters the Court (aged 16); lionized as prodigy and for her beauty;
1668: Enters Convent of San Jerónimo (aged 20); wrote many poems, plays, studied philosophy, music and science;
1691: Writes famous 'Respuesta a Sor Filotea', defending right of women to study and write; comes under pressure from Ecclesiastical hierarchy to abandon her studies;
1694: Abjures under great pressure; forced to sell her books and musical and scientific instruments;
1695: Plague hits convent; Sor Juana contracts plague and dies 17th April, aged 46.

Juana Inés Ramírez was born in 1648 on the farmstead of San Miguel Nepantla on the slopes of the Popocatépetl volcano, some 60km from the capital of Nueva España (now México). She was the 'illegitimate' daughter of a criolla mother (Doña Isabel Ramírez de Santillana) and a Biscayan father (Pedro Manuel de Asbaje), and her four sisters and a brother (some of them by a different father) were also illegitimate.

She learnt to read very early (apparently when she was three) and by all accounts had a voracious appetite for knowledge -- she claims to have read all her grandfather's books before she went to the capital, and these seem to have included many classic works. She herself said that when she was six or seven, her desire for learning was so intense that she begged her mother to let her dress up in men's clothes and allow her to go and study in Mexico University, which only men were allowed to attend. When she was eight (in 1656), she was sent to México (i.e., Ciudad México) to live with her maternal aunt and the latter's husband, Juan de Mata, possibly on account of the death of her grandfather and the birth of her half brother. There we know that she took a mere twenty lessons in Latin grammar, which enabled her to read philosophical and theological works in the language, and she came to be considered as something of a child prodigy. She began to be lionized in high society for her intelligence and also for her famed beauty.

When she was sixteen (in 1664), the Matas presented her to the court of the new viceroy, where she won the affections of the vicereine, Doña Leonor Carreto, Marquesa de Mancera, and was admitted into her service. She lived in the court from the age of sixteen to the age of twenty. She developed an incredible talent for versification, and was able to hold her own in matters of learning with theologians, mathematicians, philosophers and men of letters. She no doubt had to defend herself from the amorous advances of the married men of the court, yet even had she desired to marry (she later declared that she rejected the very idea), there was little chance for her within that society, being illegitimate and from a poor family.

At the age of nineteen she temporarily entered the convent of San José de las Carmelitas Descalzas, but withdrew, probably shocked by the severity of that Order. Just before her twentieth birthday she took her vows and entered the convent of San Jerónimo, where she remained for the rest of her life. There she had her own library and study, and was able to hold tertulias (sitting behind bars) with men of learning from the Court and University. She wrote many poems and plays, was adept at music, and studied all branches of knowledge, from philosophy to natural science.

When the new Viceroy, the Marqués de la Laguna arrived in 1680, Sor Juana struck up a friendship with his wife María Luisa, condesa de Paredes, addressed as Lisi or Lísida in the many love poems addressed to her. The viceregal couple remained in México until 1688, and when they left, Sor Juana lost the protection which they had provided: for, while being eulogized by many, Sor Juana was also the butt of misogynistic attacks. These came into the open when in 1690 a letter of hers criticizing a famous sermon by a Jesuit priest was published without her permission by one 'Sor Filotea de la Cruz', a curious feminine pseudonym adopted by her supposed friend the Bishop of Puebla, Manuel Fernández de Santa Cruz. This was accompanied by a letter written by the Bishop (under the assumed female name) admonishing her for her preoccupation with worldly affairs and for the lack of biblical subjects in her poetry and study. Sor Juana wrote an energetic reply, the famous 'Respuesta a Sor Filotea', which has been hailed as the first feminist manifesto. The Ecclesiastical hierarchy, however, particularly the Archbishop Aguiar y Seijas, began to attack her more openly, demanding that she renounce her books and all worldly study. She continued to publish, and wrote a group of eight villancicos on the life of St Catharine of Alexandria some of which have a defiant feminist tone.

Floods hit Ciudad México in 1691, followed by famine in 1692. Besieged by criticism, and under great pressure even from her confessor, Sor Juana began what appears to have been a process of forced abjuration. There is no evidence of her actually renouncing her devotion to letters, and all the documents of 1694 to which she supposedly put her name have the tone of mere rhetorical formulae. However, she was forced to sell all her books, an extensive library of some 4,000 volumes, as well as her musical and scientific instruments. In April of 1695, a plague hit the convent, with great loss of life. While looking back to contentsafter her sick sisters, she contracted the disease and died at four in the morning of 17th April, aged 46 years and five months. In the convent's Libro de profesiones she had signed a statement of self-humiliation with the words 'Yo, la peor del mundo'.
(I, the worse of the world)

Source: http://www.latin-american.cam.ac.uk/culture/SorJuana/index.html#biography

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Re: Women Who Inspire
« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2009, 06:55:27 pm »


Helen Mirren - a great actress with natural grace and a sense of humour
who gives hope to all women over 50 showing how to grow older and still be fabulous.
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