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Offline Lumière

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007: Quantum of Solace
« on: November 03, 2008, 03:51:03 pm »
...# 22 in the Bond series.




It premieres Nov 14 in North America.

Anyone here planning on checking it out? 

I loved Casino Royale.  I'll definitely check out this one (opening week possibly).


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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2008, 01:56:14 pm »
Hmm, they look like they could use a quantum of soap. :laugh:

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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2008, 02:03:42 pm »
 ;D

Hey, Bond-ing is a dusty job!


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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2008, 05:57:34 pm »
Interesting!

At least, these new Bond movie do not degrade women anymore ?

The first ones did, as naming a female a P.ssy ! Remember ?

Hopefully, the news ones do upgrade now females ? And this one ?

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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2008, 07:18:29 pm »
...# 22 in the Bond series.




It premieres Nov 14 in North America.

Anyone here planning on checking it out? 

I loved Casino Royale.  I'll definitely check out this one (opening week possibly).


yes yes yes!!!

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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2008, 01:16:51 am »
Saw it and it was very good.  Beautifully choreographed fight scenes, special effects kept to a minimum, a quite eclectic group of scenes that kept the movie fresh and interesting, beautiful locales and a moneyshot to which I am unreasonably partial - (no not Craig in next to nothing, though am I very partial those scenes as well ;D) a vast, monochromatic barren landscape and the strange incongruity of two people in this landscape dressed in formal wear.

Like an Obsession ad.

Love it!!

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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2008, 02:33:32 pm »
It was entertaining for sure, but I liked Casino Royale better... 
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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2008, 05:53:23 pm »
I have not seen it yet, but I understand David Harbour has a part in it as Gregg Beam.

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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2008, 05:57:13 pm »
Is this movie debasing women again ?

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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2008, 09:01:36 pm »
Is this movie debasing women again ?

I didn't think so..well, except of course for the ridiculously passe traditional credit-rolling opener.

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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2008, 06:22:40 pm »
Allow me to introduce you to

THE SEXIEST MAN ALIVE!



Sigh! Be still, my beating heart!

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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2008, 07:34:45 pm »
I liked it but it wasn't as good as CASINO ROYALE.  I mean the Bond girl wasn't nearly as good as Eva Green and the "what's at stake if he fails" wasn't thinking "big" so to speak. 
I still loved all the international scenary. Great escapism and in this economic crisis, that's always welcome.

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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2008, 10:42:16 pm »
I liked it but it wasn't as good as CASINO ROYALE.  I mean the Bond girl wasn't nearly as good as Eva Green and the "what's at stake if he fails" wasn't thinking "big" so to speak. 
I still loved all the international scenary. Great escapism and in this economic crisis, that's always welcome.

The friend I saw Quantum of Solace with virtually made the same comments as yourself. He said he loved both movies, but preferred Casino Royale. In his case, I suspect it's because QOS is much more down, dirty and grungy than CR. There are more scenes featuring the traditional, suave, sophisticated, tuxedo-wearing Bond in Casino Royale, which is the Bond my friend prefers. Alternatively, Bond's attire of choice in Quantum of Solace is more likely to be dirt! Not so many grand, spectacular European settings in QOS. Not so many tuxedos.

Like my friend, I too loved both movies, but with a decided preference for Quantum of Solace, in my case.  :D

For me, Daniel Craig has a smoldering, intense, on-screen dynamism that's impossible to resist. Heck, he must be HOT for me to snatch my "Sexiest Man Alive" preference from Christopher Meloni and award it to him. It must be those beautiful, intense, spectacularly bluer-than-blue eyes of his. They sure are hypnotic. Believe me, he could ask me to do anything,  and I'd do it in an instant! Quicker, if at all possible, to win his favour! What a man!  :D

One tries to analyze why one has such an intense reaction to some on-screen personas, as I have to Daniel Craig's 007. For me, personally, I suspect it's because I'm fantasizing I'm him, as I watch him on screen. Speaking as a once wimpy, effete, much-bullied schoolboy, one can't help but fantasize oneself into the role of 007; or, alternatively, at least fantasizing that you have him on your side against the thugs.









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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2008, 11:54:55 pm »
Don't stop now, Kerry.  Keep 'em comin'.  ;D

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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2008, 12:31:20 am »
Don't stop now, Kerry.  Keep 'em comin'.  ;D

:laugh:  OK, here ya go!  :D

May be necessary to scroll over --->







And this is a pic of Daniel Craig as himself,  not James Bond:

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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2008, 12:38:45 am »
**sigh**

What a manly man.  :-*  I like pretty boys, and geeky boys, but I also like manly men and Craig is definitely a manly man.

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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2008, 01:00:16 am »
**sigh**

What a manly man.  :-*  I like pretty boys, and geeky boys, but I also like manly men and Craig is definitely a manly man.

Ain't that the truth!  ;)   :D

Here's some more. Let me know when you want me to stop!  :laugh:















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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2008, 01:08:12 am »

This one's shamelessly OT, from Casino Royale. Let me know if you'd like me to delete it.  ;)   ;)   ;)   ;D


Phew, is it suddenly very hot in here? Please, someone, hand me a fan.   ;)   :laugh:
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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2008, 03:35:21 am »



        Kerry you are my favorite funny man..



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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2008, 08:23:45 am »


        Kerry you are my favorite funny man..

{{{Janice}}}
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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2008, 08:30:48 am »

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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2008, 05:57:36 pm »

Vladimir's a real little floozie,  Jess. Don't believe what he tells you about missing me. He's probably just between boyfriends at the moment and feeling lonely.

I had him followed and here are some pics my gumshoe got of just a couple  of his latest love interests.
















Apologies for the OT post.

 
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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2008, 07:58:36 pm »
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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2008, 10:30:52 pm »
To get back to the issue at hand (again apologies for the OT posts), here's TIME magazine's review of Quantum of Solace.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1858881,00.html

Quantum of Solace: Bourne-Again Bond

By Richard Coirliss - Thursday, Nov. 13, 2008

He has a stolid face and solid musculature, which we know because he goes topless more than his leading ladies do. He has vigorous skirmishes on roofs, in cars and in hotel rooms. He takes as severe a beating--and shows as much emotion--as a crash-test dummy. He's a government spy whom his government wants dead, and he's mourning the violent death of his girlfriend. He so resembles another famous agent that you half-expect him to say, "The name is Bourne. Jason Bourne."

The hero of Quantum of Solace is James Bond, headlining the 22nd "official" film in the series, stretching back to Dr. No in 1962, based on the character created by Ian Fleming and overseen by the Broccoli family. But in movie history, 46 years is a long time--nearly half the life span of feature-length movies themselves--and a film franchise, like any organism, must adapt to survive. The 007 of Quantum of Solace is not your grandfather's Bond, the suave, larkish Etonian whose success as the movies' alpha male sparked dozens, possibly hundreds of imitators in the 1960s spy genre.

He may not be Fleming's Bond either. The early novels were intended as light entertainments; they inhabited a world in which an überstud with refined tastes (the right car, martini recipe, cigarette) also accessorized by bedding beautiful, willing, duplicitous women; it's no coincidence that 007 and Playboy were the prime male icons of the Eisenhower-Kennedy era. Bond occasionally engaged in fisticuffs with a brigand, but that was just a different kind of workout. As played by Sean Connery and Roger Moore from the '60s through the '80s, Bond greeted each new threat to his life with an upper-class smile.

Daniel Craig plays Bond now, and his turn in Casino Royale in 2006 hit the reset button on the franchise. Like the Christian Bale Batman Begins, the Craig Casino showed a young man taking his first steps toward superhero status. He was stern and ferocious, similar to protagonists in the grittier, glummer, more violent action-adventure films of the past few years. The new 007 was the ultimate fighter, not the ultimate lover. And like Jason Bourne, who woke up one day having forgotten his identity, the Bond series acquired a selective amnesia that erased whole areas of the franchise. Gone were Bond's double-entendre jokes, his easy connoisseurship, the suggestion that life was a game in which he luckily held the high cards. Now it's kill or be killed. The evils of the world are too daunting to be met with a smirk.

Craig's Bond, already a noble thug in Casino, has a deeper reason for moodiness here: the love of his life has just died. Vesper Lynd (Eva Green) was a British Treasury agent whose motives Bond misinterpreted, leading to her selfless suicide. Quantum, the first true sequel in the series, begins an hour after Casino ended. Bond wins a frantic car chase, and in his trunk is a prize for his MI6 boss, M (Judi Dench): a board member of the outlaw cartel once known as SPECTRE, now called Quantum. Instantly, Bond is running in all directions: pursuing and eluding a Quantum biggie named Dominic Greene (Mathieu Amalric), hooking up with Bolivian siren Camille (Olga Kurylenko) and riding his own obsession to avenge Vesper's death.

Bond Villains, Bond Girls

Fleming divided his supervillains into two categories: the bon vivant industrialists whose good cheer hid wicked intentions, and the sneering, solitary madmen plotting universal suffering like a sick nerd in his basement. They were alike though in being chatty brainiac-megalomaniacs whose compulsion to explain exactly how they were going to kill Bond (and take over the world) gave him enough time to kill them. Although the novels and the early Bond movies took place during the Cold War, their villains were rarely Soviet operatives; they were closer to those freelance fruitcakes of pulp fantasy fiction, Fu Manchu and Ming the Merciless. Issuing dreadful warnings, plotting mass destruction from remote redoubts and sending their thugs to do the dirty work, the Scaramangas and Ernst Stavro Blofelds of Bond fiction could have been the secular antecedents of Osama bin Laden.

That kind of bad guy is no joke these days, so screenwriters Paul Haggis, Neal Purvis and Robert Wade pick their Quantum villain from Column A. Greene is a zillionaire tycoon who uses environmental philanthropy to mask his plan to divert water from the peasants of South America. (Bolivia is the new Chinatown.) Amalric, the French actor often seen in harried, sympathetic roles like the paralyzed writer in The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, is effectively reptilian here, his whispers tinged with menace, his smile hinting at sadism.

We cotton to his motives early on, when he passes Camille, a former plaything, over to Bolivian strongman General Medrano (Joaquín Cosio). Turns out Camille, like Bond, has a score to settle: she has lost her mother and daughter to Medrano's depredations. This time, for both of them, it's personal; hero and heroine percolate silently, sulfurously, with vengeance scenarios that may somehow intersect. Kurylenko, a lovely Russian-Ukrainian hybrid who is oddly duskied up to look vaguely Latina, does an exemplary job raising the movie's temperature and luring Bond out of his shell.

That's tough work, since Craig, appealingly sturdy in Casino, is near mute here: a cyber- or cipher-Bond with a loyalty chip implanted in a mechanism that's built for murderous ingenuity. "If you could avoid killing every possible lead," M tells him, "it would be deeply appreciated." As played by Dench with a nice mix of the brusque and the maternal, M must be more than Bond's superior; she is his enabler, protector and shrink. Yet Craig's Bond isn't given to soul-searching. He's a brute acting on instinct: Rambo of Her Majesty's Secret Service.

Well, an action figure, real or plastic, is just what this brisk exercise (the shortest Bond film ever) needs. Director Marc Forster--whose résumé includes a lot of gimmicky art-house fare, from Finding Neverland to The Kite Runner--does much better when he has no moral in tow; he can concentrate on shepherding the second-unit stunt work and setting a tempo of nearly nonstop suspense. What's lost in reverberations from the series' blithe old movies is gained in daredevil vigor.

So don't sit shivah over that anachronistic 007. Just enjoy a pulverizing action-adventure film whose hero happens to be named Jason Bourne--sorry, James Bond.
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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2008, 01:50:42 pm »

Moore: Craig 'marvelous' as Bond

HONG KONG – From one Bond to another: job well done.

Roger Moore told reporters Thursday that Daniel Craig was "marvelous" as James Bond because he brought a fresh dimension to the character.

The 81-year-old actor, who starred in seven Bond films in the 1970s and the 1980s, said Craig's performances in Steven Spielberg's 2005 political thriller "Munich" and "Sylvia" in 2003, in which he plays the poet Ted Hughes, helped shape a new Bond.

"All of those parts were very, very different to one's conception of Bond ... I thought he was absolutely marvelous," Moore said of Craig's acting in "Casino Royale."

Fans have criticized the casting of Craig, questioning whether a stage-trained actor with little action experience pull off the role of Bond.

Moore, speaking at an event in Hong Kong to promote his autobiography "My Word Is My Bond," said he had yet to see Craig's latest turn as the British spy in "Quantum of Solace."

Moore said he met Craig for the first time at a recent celebration for Bond creator Ian Fleming in London and found him a "charming guy."



They had a pic of the 81 year old Moore, but I didn't copy it, the man did not age well.  :-\

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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2008, 02:13:16 pm »
I liked it but it wasn't as good as CASINO ROYALE.  I mean the Bond girl wasn't nearly as good as Eva Green and the "what's at stake if he fails" wasn't thinking "big" so to speak. 
I still loved all the international scenary. Great escapism and in this economic crisis, that's always welcome.

I saw "Quantum" last weekend and feel pretty much the same, KD.  Loved the look of it and the fast-paced action.  Great escapism indeed!  And who can resist this amazing gift to the Bond series, really the best since Connery:



This one's for you, Kerry.  ;)
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Re: 007: Quantum of Solace
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2008, 09:33:20 am »
I saw "Quantum" last weekend and feel pretty much the same, KD.  Loved the look of it and the fast-paced action.  Great escapism indeed!  And who can resist this amazing gift to the Bond series, really the best since Connery:

This one's for you, Kerry.  ;)

I agree, Meryl. Daniel Craig is the best 007 since Connery IMHO.   :)
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