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BBM Ripoff, Mockery, or Nod??
« on: March 10, 2009, 12:59:59 am »
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Re: BBM Ripoff, Mockery, or Nod??
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2009, 01:04:00 am »
I can't watch the video Jess, so I have no idea what is going on. So I voted "What? I don't get it?"

It will be interesting to see what others have to say about it.
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Re: BBM Ripoff, Mockery, or Nod??
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2009, 01:05:43 am »
it is two cowboys sitting at a bar...talking about the weather..the one is dressed a lot like Jack and looks a LITTLE like him..talks about 'losing half the herd" then they ask for sprinkles for their pancakes...

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Re: BBM Ripoff, Mockery, or Nod??
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2009, 01:17:12 am »
it is two cowboys sitting at a bar...talking about the weather..the one is dressed a lot like Jack and looks a LITTLE like him..talks about 'losing half the herd" then they ask for sprinkles for their pancakes...

Oh I've seen that commercial! I don't think it has anything to do with Brokeback Mountain, does it? I never made that connection. I just figured it was two very butch, rough and tough cowboys asking for something cute and non masculine for breakfast.

I'll have to watch it again with this poll as a reference and form my opinion again. Now that I think about it, the commercial does resemble Jack and Ennis's bar scene at the beginning of the movie, but I don't think the producers of the commercial intended it to reflect Brokeback Mountain... do you?

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Re: BBM Ripoff, Mockery, or Nod??
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2009, 01:26:32 am »
I voted "Mockery."  I see it as not only directly and indisputably mocking "Brokeback Mountain" but also being overtly homophobic. I didn't like it.  For what it's worth, little ole girly me would prefer the butch breakfast, thank you very much.  Having said all that, however, I can see that someone who actually has a sense of humour (unlike me at the moment) might actually find it amusing.
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Re: BBM Ripoff, Mockery, or Nod??
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2009, 01:43:01 am »
I voted "Mockery."  I see it as not only directly and indisputably mocking "Brokeback Mountain" but also being overtly homophobic. I didn't like it.  For what it's worth, little ole girly me would prefer the butch breakfast, thank you very much.  Having said all that, however, I can see that someone who actually has a sense of humour (unlike me at the moment) might actually find it amusing.



I think you're supposed to want the simple "butch" breakfast in this commercial.  I don't think it's BBM-related, and I didn't see any homophobia.

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Re: BBM Ripoff, Mockery, or Nod??
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2009, 04:48:03 am »
My first impression was Brokeback Mountain, but then
again my brain is wired to Brokeback so I dont really
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Re: BBM Ripoff, Mockery, or Nod??
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2009, 05:42:44 am »
We dont get that add here, cause we dont have Denny's. But I just watched the video clip, and it didn't give me any take on BBM. It was just an add for the big breakfast.
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Re: BBM Ripoff, Mockery, or Nod??
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2009, 07:26:30 am »
I voted mockery.  I think the two cowboys, the similarity to Jack, and reference to 'losing half the herd' are pretty blatant BBM references.  Like Steve, tho, I am wired to BBM, so I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
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Re: BBM Ripoff, Mockery, or Nod??
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2009, 12:18:37 pm »
I voted mockery.  I think the two cowboys, the similarity to Jack, and reference to 'losing half the herd' are pretty blatant BBM references.  Like Steve, tho, I am wired to BBM, so I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

I've wondered about this ad too.  The play it all the time here in the Pittsburgh market. Like all of you, I'm wired to think BBM in reference to many things too... so I don't know how objective I'm being. 

But,as folks have said... now that it's been brought up...  it does remind me a little of the bar scene and Jack referencing the lightning strike during his first summer on Brokeback.  The thing that's odd about the ad - if it's meant to be a BBM spoof - is that they chose two much older guys.  Maybe they wanted to reference BBM a little but not too much. 

If it is a BBM reference it does bother me.  But, a lot of spoofs of BBM and of the poster too, really get under my skin.  There are exceptions to that for me (for instance I thought the BBM legos were really cute).  But, I can see the argument about there being a homophobic undercurrent in this ad if it is a Brokeback reference.   :-\

In a way, I'm not willing to give the ad makers the benefit of a doubt.  So, I'm voting mockery.



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Re: BBM Ripoff, Mockery, or Nod??
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2009, 12:51:17 pm »
I didn't vote. I simply can't make up my mind if there is a deliberate BBM reference or not.
To me, it screams BBM, but like Steve, Lynne and Amanda already said, BBM is so hard-wired in me, maybe it simply isn't there.
The similarity to Jack is really obvious, I think. But on the other side, the reference to the bar scene and losing half the herd of sheep is something only Brokies would get. 99% of the people would be oblivious to it - so it wouldn't make much sense, would it?

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Re: BBM Ripoff, Mockery, or Nod??
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2009, 01:37:54 pm »
I don't know if it was supposed to refer to BBM or not, but I know there is a lot of posturing and bravado in the traditional Western macho image and I thought it might be making fun of that. 

I thought the contrast of them discussing life and death issues and then asking for more "chocolate doo-diddles"  and "giggle drops" and their breakfasts looking like something Krusty the Klown would market was hysterical.

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Re: BBM Ripoff, Mockery, or Nod??
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2009, 03:14:37 pm »

I think you're supposed to want the simple "butch" breakfast in this commercial.  I don't think it's BBM-related, and I didn't see any homophobia.

I agree with Clarissa.

I think what's being made fun of here is the breakfast, not Brokeback Mountain. I've taken it as meaning the guys have to order that twee breakfast because there is no place to go to get a "butch" breakfast.

Besides, I think the cowboys look too old for Jack and Ennis, even at the end of the story/film.
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Re: BBM Ripoff, Mockery, or Nod??
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2009, 03:30:47 pm »
I'm thinking along the same lines as Jeff and Clarissa.  It's got more to do with the usual macho cowboy image being tweaked than with BBM.

Poor guys.  Even the giggly doodle breakfast couldn't cheer 'em up!  ;D
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Re: BBM Ripoff, Mockery, or Nod??
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2009, 03:39:27 pm »
I'm thinking along the same lines as Jeff and Clarissa.  It's got more to do with the usual macho cowboy image being tweaked than with BBM.

Poor guys.  Even the giggly doodle breakfast couldn't cheer 'em up!  ;D

If the characters were portrayed as in any way stereotypical gays, then I might suspect homophobia or BBM mockery, but I don't see that. The cowboys play it, er, straight. ...
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Re: BBM Ripoff, Mockery, or Nod??
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2009, 07:08:10 pm »
If the characters were portrayed as in any way stereotypical gays, then I might suspect homophobia or BBM mockery, but I don't see that. The cowboys play it, er, straight. ...

well so did Jack and Ennis!!

the lighting, the jacket and hat that the one was wearing, how he turns his head...all really evokes Jack to me...even the tone of his voice.

maybe an 'inside' joke? maybe someone on the ad team is a brokie!!

I dont see it as being homophobic though....

they are taking a slam at IHOP...

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Re: BBM Ripoff, Mockery, or Nod??
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2009, 07:16:17 pm »
I voted

What? I dont get it? It doesnt' have anything to do with BBM.

I saw the commercial on TV.  Never once made me think of BBM.  IMO, it was just a commercial using archetypal  characters to represent tough, serious and macho men and juxtapositioned them with cartoon/kiddie pancakes for humorous effect.

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Re: BBM Ripoff, Mockery, or Nod??
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2009, 07:19:36 pm »
so did I, Del.  The gloomy discussion over breakfast in a seedy diner looked like a stereotypical Western image, not related to BBM.
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Re: BBM Ripoff, Mockery, or Nod??
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2009, 07:28:15 pm »
so did I, Del.  The gloomy discussion over breakfast in a seedy diner looked like a stereotypical Western image, not related to BBM.

It actually made me think more of the movie Country with Sam Shepherd if you ever saw it.

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Re: BBM Ripoff, Mockery, or Nod??
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2009, 09:27:52 pm »


     It reminded me more, of the others saying that it makes fun of IHOP.  Their silly fruity and sweet breakfasts.  They
are saying that they are manly men, wanting a more manly choice for breakfast.  But on the other hand when faced
with the hard fact.  They want do diddles and etc on their sweet treats.   I have seen that commercial several times.
It never brought BBM to mind until this post was made.



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