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Offline milomorris

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Re: Willie Nelson's Lost Highway
« Reply #60 on: November 07, 2009, 02:55:33 pm »
This wasn't a glass of water; and vaudeville is dead.  Most of the people who saw that image knew perfectly well what it implied. And again, there's absolutely no context in the song for the schtick you're describing.

The glass of water was an example. The device has been used with tools, food, etc. not only on Vaudeville, but also in sitcoms, movies, etc. In the business, its called a "sight gag."

As far as context in the song, there is no context for claiming its blood either. There is not a single violent lyric in the whole song.
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Re: Willie Nelson's Lost Highway
« Reply #61 on: November 07, 2009, 03:42:23 pm »
We really should have that discussion in the condiment aisle.

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Re: Willie Nelson's Lost Highway
« Reply #62 on: November 09, 2009, 08:06:59 am »
As for the idea that Ain't Going Down on Brokeback Mountain is a misunderstood Picasso...


I have no idea what "I shaved my unicorn for this?" means.

But let's be clear here, I wasn't comparing Willie Nelson to Picasso. I was comparing the reaction people had to each artists' work.
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Re: Willie Nelson's Lost Highway
« Reply #63 on: November 09, 2009, 10:03:02 pm »
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I love that word!! :laugh:
I should use it more often!!
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Re: Willie Nelson's Lost Highway
« Reply #64 on: November 09, 2009, 11:53:13 pm »
For those who don't see threats in these lyrics:

"That shit ain't right"  --creates a mood of hate/moral condemnation against homosexuals

"Don't go reachin' for my rope" --implies a threat if an overture is made

"You can buy me a beer, then fuck off" --disrespectful and rude, as if it's OK to use a gay man for your own purposes, lead him on, then blow him off
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Re: Willie Nelson's Lost Highway
« Reply #65 on: November 10, 2009, 12:03:09 am »
For those who don't see threats in these lyrics:

"That shit ain't right"  --creates a mood of hate/moral condemnation against homosexuals

I hear: "I don't like it." A statement of his heterosexuality

"Don't go reachin' for my rope" --implies a threat if an overture is made

I hear: "keep your hands off me." A statement of his wish to avoid an unwanted advance

"You can buy me a beer, then fuck off" --disrespectful and rude, as if it's OK to use a gay man for your own purposes, lead him on, then blow him off

I hear: "let's keep it platonic." A statement that sets boundaries
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Re: Willie Nelson's Lost Highway
« Reply #66 on: November 10, 2009, 12:09:49 am »
I hear: "I don't like it." A statement of his heterosexuality

I hear: "keep your hands off me." A statement of his wish to avoid an unwanted advance

I hear: "let's keep it platonic." A statement that sets boundaries

So be it.

Being from Tennessee, knowing what broken bottles in barrooms are for, and knowing how the average yahoo is going to 'hear' these lyrics, I just don't see it the same way.

I hope your rose-colored glasses never get cloudy.
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Re: Willie Nelson's Lost Highway
« Reply #67 on: November 10, 2009, 12:20:04 am »
Well, the majority of people posting on this thread see it as what it is.
Stupid ass threats against gays.  Maybe they are trying to prove something.
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We can't all be hysterical.

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Re: Willie Nelson's Lost Highway
« Reply #68 on: November 10, 2009, 12:21:05 am »
So be it.

Being from Tennessee, knowing what broken bottles in barrooms are for, and knowing how the average yahoo is going to 'hear' these lyrics, I just don't see it the same way.

People are listening to this song in more places than just Tennessee. No doubt, different people in different places, and in different circumstances will interpret the song differently. Living in Philadelphia, I know how the average city boy is going to hear these lyrics. To them, this song will have the effect of a Saturday Night Live skit.

The idea that this song (with or without the ketchup) will incite gay-bashing is about as valid an argument as the one that goes: gangsta rap makes poor, young, black men violent.
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Re: Willie Nelson's Lost Highway
« Reply #69 on: November 10, 2009, 12:28:00 am »
LMAO at the idea of people listening to Willie in NYC.

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