Author Topic: A GREAT SADNESS the Classical Allusions thread has been deleted from IMDB Board (Read 9167 times)

Casey Cornelius · « **on:** April 04, 2006, 01:08:27 am »

It is no more.

Since most everyone here had something to contribute to the fantastic, exhillarating, intellect-expanding time we
shared with the Classical Allusions thread on IMDB, I thank you for all of your input as all of us helped each other to a greater understanding, appreciation and awe for the miracle that is the film of Brokeback Mountain.

BUT, it was deleted today.
It was devastating to open an e-mail notice of a recent reply to the thread and see all 560+ entries now reduced to a list of 'post deleted' indications.
stichbuffymoulin fan was the last contributor, apparently, but I have no idea what they said.
If you're 'listening' would you be able to share with all of us, what the last official post to the Classical Allusions thread might have been?

I am in mourning for all of our work and for what this says about the present state of the IMDB Brokeback Board.
I am of the mind, if I become more spiteful, to delete my account and all trace of my posts from there.

I know that many of you have saved the Classical Allusions thread in various caches. I saved it to CD myself as well, but it would be helpful if anyone who's saved some of the best threads from IMDB to let us know where they might be found to guide future acolytes who might want to enjoy that wonder of a thread which we all created.

I feel a great sadness.

Lynne · « **Reply #1 on:** April 04, 2006, 01:13:16 am »

That is very tragic news, Casey...a great loss...I have some of that thread saved (initial posting thru maybe two weeks ago?) in a text file. You or other, more active posters probably have more recent versions. By the way, I shared the posts about the Chinese symbolism with someone at work today who expressed an interest.

My condolences to the IMDB regulars...

-Lynne

delalluvia · « **Reply #2 on:** April 04, 2006, 01:13:52 am »

starboardlight · « **Reply #3 on:** April 04, 2006, 01:22:42 am »

I am sad that it will not be there for new comers once the DVD hit the market. but if it's any consolation, I archived the thread as of March 21st.

http://nipith.com/bbm_threads/ClassicalAllusions.html

Flashframe777 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 04, 2006, 01:29:50 am »

I am really saddened by this. Many of you know that "Classical Allusions" was a thread that I championed on IMDB. I am glad that Starboardlight archived it.

And Casey, if you have a more current version, please give us a link to it here.

Ellemeno · « **Reply #5 on:** April 04, 2006, 01:32:22 am »

Casey, hug.

Phillip has offered (not sure of the technically right word) a place to keep files. A team of archivists could do that. It could be the repository - or rather, I suppose, A repository of our beloved wisdom and humor.

I am so glad you are here, Casey, whenever you want to come.

Meryl · « **Reply #6 on:** April 04, 2006, 01:38:22 am »

Casey, I mourn with you. That thread was what kept me at imdb instead of going to the Dave Cullen site. I never regretted it one bit.

It's very sad indeed that ignorance and cruelty can't seem to resist destroying what they can't understand.

RouxB · « **Reply #7 on:** April 04, 2006, 01:46:22 am »

Casey-so sad.

That thread was the one the began my IMDb addiction-so, of course, I saved it. Nipith, yours is more up to date so would you repost it on TOB? It meant so much to me I would hate for other devotees to miss out on all that wisdom.

starboardlight · « **Reply #8 on:** April 04, 2006, 01:57:10 am »

casey I think you should repost your original text on the IMDB board. and keep reposting if it gets deleted. I know that's a pain, but I think someone will read it and get benefit from it still.

Casey Cornelius · « **Reply #9 on:** April 04, 2006, 02:01:22 am »

starboardlight, roux, et al:

If someone could instruct me as to how I could go about re-posting it, I would be delighted to undertake the labor, even if having it deleted from time to time would be akin to Prometheus having his constantly rejuvenated liver devoured by the IMDB Brokeback Board trolls and vultures.

I saved the Classical Allusions thread to CD [ as indicated above ] two days ago -- so if someone has an idea of how to repost it from that source I would be grateful. I'm a relative neophyte when it comes to transferring files intact.

RouxB · « **Reply #10 on:** April 04, 2006, 02:03:35 am »

I have it saved at work. Tomorrow if it isn't back over there, I'll post it.

Ruby

monimm18 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 04, 2006, 02:17:24 am »

Oh, no! The greatest thread of all has fallen...

It might be a Sisyphus' work to repost it, with the trolls lurking around, but I think it would be a great thing anyway. I have saved it on my computer, but my Microsoft Office's promotonal offer has expired and I cannot copy/edit anything until I pay the bandits $145 to renew it... All I can do is read it.

starboardlight · « **Reply #12 on:** April 04, 2006, 02:29:10 am »

Quote from: Casey Cornelius on April 04, 2006, 02:01:22 am

starboardlight, roux, et al:

If someone could instruct me as to how I could go about re-posting it, I would be delighted to undertake the labor, even if having it deleted from time to time would be akin to Prometheus having his constantly rejuvenated liver devoured by the IMDB Brokeback Board trolls and vultures.

I saved the Classical Allusions thread to CD [ as indicated above ] two days ago -- so if someone has an idea of how to repost it from that source I would be grateful. I'm a relative neophyte when it comes to transferring files intact.

oh, I mean just create a new topic on IMDB, put in the same title, and copy and paste your text into the body. and just let it evolve again from there. Perhaps a new set of replies will bring new insights. On the bright side, we've said how large it was and it was getting cumbersome to open, because of it. So maybe we see this as the troll doing us a favor, cleaning up the thread and allowing us to re-examine the insights with new posts.

reannawrites · « **Reply #13 on:** April 04, 2006, 02:47:16 am »

I'm sorry as well Casey - one of my absolute favorite threads and I agree with everyone, it was the initial reason to get on to the Imdb boards. The board is in a sad state now. I'm amazed that such amazing threads can be deleted while ridiculous threads started by trolls still remain on the board.

And Nipith - thank you for the archives.

Lots of love,
Reanna

mlewisusc · « **Reply #14 on:** April 05, 2006, 02:29:28 am »

This points out to me the one problem with our little hidden "Shangri-La" here at Bettermost.net - an absence of new blood, uninvited, to add to the wonder and admiration of film and story. For those of us who often or occasionally (me) go back to the "regular" BBM board, the ongoing troll situation there means there's really no chance of discovering "new" devotees who could add new insights, at least at this point. I do have the feeling that the DVD will present a new opportunity for other folks to be exposed to the film and they will want to meet in cyberspace and talk about it, because their families and friends won't understand, and they'll be desperate to be anywhere other than Lightning Flat . . . oops, got carried away, for a moment . . . so I applaud Casey and anyone else who is willing to go back and keep posting the threads which can help the "next" generation of BBM lovers understand their situation. I am very interested to see if on DVD the same sort of "getting under your skin" will happen as happened to so many of us . . .

vkm91941 · « **Reply #15 on:** April 05, 2006, 05:27:37 am »

I do encourage you all to go out onto the Better Most boards and explore the other forums, introduce yourselves and make new friends. They're not exactly newbies but they are new to us. Who knows what kind of lovely posts you all may stumble upon

Front-Ranger · « **Reply #16 on:** April 05, 2006, 10:19:02 am »

That is just criminal but surely we have it archived. That is one thread that needs to be published!

henrypie · « **Reply #17 on:** April 05, 2006, 10:26:15 am »

Casey,
Your thread brought me in.

As Clive said to Maurice (and Ennis said to Jack), "I would have gone through life half-awake if you'd had the decency to leave me alone."

Phillip Dampier · « **Reply #18 on:** April 05, 2006, 11:03:52 am »

Quote from: mlewisusc on April 05, 2006, 02:29:28 am

This points out to me the one problem with our little hidden "Shangri-La" here at Bettermost.net - an absence of new blood, uninvited, to add to the wonder and admiration of film and story. For those of us who often or occasionally (me) go back to the "regular" BBM board, the ongoing troll situation there means there's really no chance of discovering "new" devotees who could add new insights, at least at this point. I do have the feeling that the DVD will present a new opportunity for other folks to be exposed to the film and they will want to meet in cyberspace and talk about it, because their families and friends won't understand, and they'll be desperate to be anywhere other than Lightning Flat . . . oops, got carried away, for a moment . . . so I applaud Casey and anyone else who is willing to go back and keep posting the threads which can help the "next" generation of BBM lovers understand their situation. I am very interested to see if on DVD the same sort of "getting under your skin" will happen as happened to so many of us . . .

I have sort of stopped promoting BetterMost all over the place in part to try and keep the trolls from being attracted over here, so I am sort of counting on the users here to perhaps watch for the committed new devotees and PM them about this place. Eventually I'll resume publicity, but probably not on IMDb as much. I have the conflict of trying to grow the site and not put a spotlight on it for trolls, so I have to count on users to help out on IMDb.

Casey Cornelius · « **Reply #19 on:** April 05, 2006, 11:44:00 am »

roux, starboardlight, ellemeno and the whole gang:

I've taken starboardlight's advice and reposted the original Classical Illusions topic on the IMDB board.
It's time for the 'new generation' of those excited by the film approaching the IMDB board for the first time to know that there is the possibility of rewarding approaches to the film other than the trollish and insulting thrash which seems to be half of that board right now. I still have nostalgic feelings for the time when all of us were excited and contributed insightful replies to each other's posts.
If it garners some new insights and replies from the newcomers to that site, perhaps we can use their replies as an indication of whether they could be invited here to Bettermost.

YaadPyar · « **Reply #20 on:** April 05, 2006, 01:54:17 pm »

Quote from: vkm91941 on April 05, 2006, 05:27:37 am

I do encourage you all to go out onto the Better Most boards and explore the other forums, introduce yourselves and make new friends. They're not exactly newbies but they are new to us. Who knows what kind of lovely posts you all may stumble upon

Encore!

serious crayons · « **Reply #21 on:** April 05, 2006, 02:45:02 pm »

Casey, I'm with those who said that thread is what brought them to the board in the first place. I first read it shortly after discovering the board itself, and it was the first thing that made me realize how deeply one could delve into BBM and still keep uncovering new meanings, new metaphors, new subtleties, new secrets.

Thank you for all you have done to enrich my experience of this movie.

Shuggy · « **Reply #22 on:** April 05, 2006, 05:07:12 pm »

Casey, I brought your original post (and the one about astrological/alchemical symbolism) over here a couple of days ago. They are at http://bettermost.net/forum/index.php?topic=426.0

starboardlight · « **Reply #23 on:** April 06, 2006, 10:39:23 pm »

any body still have the url for the original thread at imdb? i may have a chance to get it restored, as I'm in communication with an admin, atm. I hastily deleted it from my bookmark list.

Meryl · « **Reply #24 on:** April 07, 2006, 12:12:43 am »

Here you go, starboard: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0388795/board/flat/32434607?d=36442736#36442736

starboardlight · « **Reply #25 on:** April 07, 2006, 12:15:38 am »

thank you meryl.

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