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(actually, it's the first 4:32):
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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2011, 06:21:40 am »






Welcome back, Captain Stevens:
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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2011, 06:25:01 am »





SOURCE CODE -
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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2011, 08:01:09 am »




(actually, it's the first 4:32):
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxDY6QNg7nQ[/youtube]



It gave me a headache but I´m liking it!

(and he looks bloody good, too)

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The actors are nicely matched, and what a relief to like a new movie with Mr. Gyllenhaal after a run of groaners. In a sympathetic turn, he hits the dark and light notes right, bringing subtle differences to his performance, whether Stevens is questioning reality or riding that train of life and death and angling for what everyone wants: the chance to get it right.






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Movie Review
Source Code (2011)

Don’t Know Who You Are, but
Don’t Know Who I Am

By MANOHLA DARGIS
Published: March 31, 2011



Michelle Monaghan and Jake Gyllenhaal in “Source Code.”


It doesn’t take long for “Source Code,” a science-fiction thriller with a contemporary twist, to hook you. A smooth diversion directed by Duncan Jones that bats around a few big ideas, the movie opens with a succession of overhead images of Chicago and its environs gleaming in the bright day. Again and again the camera swoops and soars above the doll-like houses, rushing past ribbons of freeway and nearly skimming the tops of silver skyscrapers. And again and again, and closer and closer, it returns to a speeding commuter train, a recurrence that artfully foreshadows the story’s nifty repetition compulsion.

In this case, the returnee in question isn’t reliving his own tragic past but someone else’s. When, after a few minutes, the nearing camera enters the train, it settles its sights on a man (Jake Gyllenhaal) who jerks awake as if from a nightmare. No wonder. While he knows himself to be Capt. Colter Stevens, an Army helicopter pilot who has recently been running sorties in Afghanistan, Christina Warren (Michelle Monaghan), the woman with the pretty smile opposite him, knows (and sees) him as Sean (Frédérick De Grandpré). Leaping up, Stevens insists that he isn’t who she believes him to be, even if the man looking back at him in a bathroom mirror (Mr. De Grandpré) suggests otherwise. Before Stevens has time to ask whozat, he and everyone else are blown up.

A few flashy, mind-trippy moments later, Stevens is wearing a military uniform and strapped to a seat in a dark capsule as a woman’s voice murmurs something about “beleaguered castle” (the name of a solitaire game and a nod at the movie’s narrative design). The voice belongs to the crisp, impersonal Colleen Goodwin (Vera Farmiga, spot on), an officer who takes orders from Dr. Rutledge (an amusing Jeffrey Wright). They explain that Stevens has zapped in from another time and space through a software program called Source Code and will keep returning to the train — where he’ll continue to blow up — until he finds the bomber. Stevens’s face quavers in the darkness, here richly captured in digital, like a fading light.

What is it about our times (or cinema) that provokes existential crises in some of the more interesting action heroes? Like the running men in the Bourne movies and in “The Adjustment Bureau,” Stevens doesn’t just jump through action-flick hoops, he also confronts some Big Questions — Are we alone? Are we free? Do we have free will? — the importance of which become clear as the outlines of Stevens’s true circumstances are revealed. In classic films noirs, the characters rarely have real choices; their paths are riddled with bullets and preordained. “Build my gallows high, baby,” Robert Mitchum says to the femme fatale (Jane Greer) in the glorious “Out of the Past.” She and her co-conspirator, fate, comply.

“Source Code” depends on something other than fate, which makes it a thematic (if lesser) cousin to “Groundhog Day,” the great 1993 Harold Ramis comedy about a dyspeptic weatherman (Bill Murray) who reaches enlightenment after he repeats the same day until he gets it right. Each morning he shuts off a clock radio playing Sonny and Cher (“I Got You Babe”) and ventures into a day that only changes because he does. As the Buddha says, “All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts.” In “Source Code,” thinking is doing, which makes it a nice respite from standard action fare with its guys, grunts and guns (though there’s some of that here too).

Mr. Jones did lose me at the messy finish, if only on the level of logic (rarely a deal-breaker for me in science fiction), but he makes it easy to follow Stevens as he toggles between realities. Better still, he makes you want to do so. In crucial ways, “Source Code,” written by Ben Ripley, recalls “Moon,” Mr. Jones’s accomplished feature debut about a solitary astronaut played by Sam Rockwell. “Source Code” is bigger, shinier, pricier. Yet both movies hinge on isolated, physically constrained men who are not what they seem, including, importantly, to themselves. And in each Mr. Jones creates a sense of intimacy that draws you to the characters, so that the tension comes from your feelings for them and not purely from plot twists.

This intimacy makes the movie feel more personal than industrial, and that’s also part of its appeal. Other than during the jolts of action when Mr. Jones cranks the volume, the performers speak rather than shout their lines, the default setting in too many thrillers. Just as you lean in to someone talking quietly, you lean in to Stevens and Christina as their chatter gives way to flirtation. The actors are nicely matched, and what a relief to like a new movie with Mr. Gyllenhaal after a run of groaners. In a sympathetic turn, he hits the dark and light notes right, bringing subtle differences to his performance, whether Stevens is questioning reality or riding that train of life and death and angling for what everyone wants: the chance to get it right.

“Source Code” is rated PG-13 (Parents strongly cautioned). Bomb violence and gunplay.

SOURCE CODE

Opens on Friday nationwide.


Directed by Duncan Jones; written by Ben Ripley; director of photography, Don Burgess; edited by Paul Hirsch; music by Chris Bacon; production design by Barry Chusid; costumes by Renee April; produced by Mark Gordon, Jordan Wynn and Philippe Rousselet; released by Summit Entertainment and Vendôme Pictures. Running time: 1 hour 33 minutes.

WITH: Jake Gyllenhaal (Colter Stevens), Michelle Monaghan (Christina Warren), Vera Farmiga (Colleen Goodwin), Jeffrey Wright (Dr. Rutledge), Michael Arden (Derek Frost), Cas Anvar (Hazmi), Russell Peters (Max Denoff) and Frédérick De Grandpré (Sean Fentress Reflection).
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Source Code (2011)

Behind the Train Scenes of 'Source Code'
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Duncan Jones, the director of the action thriller "Source Code,"
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Movie Review
Source Code (2011)

Altered minds, altered states and bags of style –
this sci-fi thriller is a superb follow-up for Duncan Jones



By Peter Bradshaw
guardian.co.uk
Thursday 31 March 2011 15.00 BST


Future shock ... Michelle Monaghan and Jake Gyllenhaal.


Source Code  is about conspiracies, altered minds and altered states, far-fetched in the most elegant and Hitchcockian way, and the sheer outrageousness of it all is muscular and streamlined. The film is about modified reality and inner space, and there are points of comparison with Christopher Nolan's Inception.  But the world of Source Code  seems to me more interesting, and more able to incubate real drama, real suspense and even some real humour.

At its centre is Colter Stevens, played by Jake Gyllenhaal, a US army helicopter pilot who has crashed in Afghanistan. When he comes to, he finds himself in civilian clothes aboard a crowded commuter train arriving slightly late into Chicago on a glorious summer morning. He appears to be in someone else's body: that of a suburban teacher. Opposite him sits Christina (Michelle Monaghan) who behaves as if a brief nap has merely interrupted their highly flirtatious conversation, but she is then increasingly alarmed as Colter, wild-eyed and panicky, demands to know what is happening and what is going on.

After eight minutes, a catastrophic event then hurls Colter back into a situation that is in some ways even more perplexing. He is in uniform, injured and immobilised in what appears to be part of a wrecked military aircraft. Is this real? Or is it the train that's real? Through a video monitor, he must communicate with a woman who is evidently now his commanding officer. Goodwin, played by Vera Farmiga, treats him with the same unreadable solicitousness as Kevin Spacey's robot-voice did with Sam Rockwell in Moon.

Without consenting, Colter has evidently been dragooned into a new mission using futurist technology known as "source code"; he has been brought back from Afghanistan – or has he? – and ordered to relive the past eight minutes on a Chicago commuter train over and over again until he discovers vital information. Ripley and Jones show how each metaphysical go-around discloses more clues; each makes Colter fall for Christina a little more, and each makes the thought of losing her seem more unbearable.

With its train setting and Chris Bacon's score imitating the jagged clamour of Bernard Herrmann, the movie is clearly indebted to the Hitchcock of North By Northwest  and Strangers on a Train.  But it's also a particularly tense and fraught kind of Groundhog Day,  and just as in that film, repetition endows banal, forgettable events with an eerie familiarity and inevitability.

Yet in the Bill Murray movie, our hapless hero had all the time in the world, an infinity of time, as many Groundhog Days as he needed, to learn the piano until he was at the level at which he could casually appear to be a brilliant pianist to impress a woman. Making an impression on a woman is not wholly absent from Colter's mind either, but he can't just repeat his eight minutes ad infinitum, because the security situation is pressing and time is running out. Each time he starts again, his own physical condition in the mysterious cockpit deteriorates, and Goodwin and her shadowy boss Rutledge (Jeffrey Wright) are keeping secrets from him.

Source Code  is glitzy and hi-tech in a 21st-century way, but also has something from an earlier age: it is a story from the Twilight Zone,  with hints of Philip K Dick, and traces of the television world of The Prisoner  and The Fugitive.  With its weird deployment of playing cards in one scene, Jones has channelled The Manchurian Candidate  – perhaps specifically through Jonathan Demme 's Iraq-themed remake – and the overall effect is smart and to the point.

In its own way, Source Code  also aspires slightly to the status of comedy, and Colter's increasingly wan and desperate conversations with Goodwin from his mysterious pod reminded me a little of David Niven's radio conversations with Kim Hunter's June in A Matter of Life and Death  – as he plummets to his certain death, Niven's character exploits his prerogative as a dying man to flirt with this radio operator.

This isn't exactly what is happening here, and Colter's affections are engaged with Christina, not Goodwin – but equipoised with the action and thrills, there is a serio-comic sense of fantasy and romance that have been endangered by this terrifying situation in one sense, but in another sense made possible by it. Source Code  is absurd, but carries off its absurdity lightly and stylishly. It is a luxuriously enjoyable film. Jones has put himself into the front-rank of Hollywood directors, the kind who can deliver a big studio picture with brains. With twists and turns, and at breathtaking speed, this film runs on rails.
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Source Code (2011)

Pick of the week: Jake Gyllenhaal
in the cool, romantic "Source Code"

The "Groundhog Day"-style action flick "Source Code"
blends a tricky three-level plot and a surprising love story


By Andrew O'Hehir
Thursday, Mar 31, 2011 18:32 ET




Near the beginning of Duncan Jones' surprisingly human techno-thriller "Source Code," we see an aerial tracking shot moving across some Midwestern woods and a lake, where we see a flock of geese accelerating toward takeoff: Whoppa-whoppa-whoppa. It's just a few seconds of dazzling outdoor color, perhaps artificially enriched, in a tick-tock puzzler that mostly takes place in enclosed spaces, but it's a nice little metaphor too: The geese are about to take off, and so's the movie. We also have no idea, the first time we see those geese, how well we'll get to know them and how much affection we'll feel for them before the whole thing is over.

That shot ends by locating a commuter train on its way to Chicago, which is where an Air Force helicopter pilot named Colter Stevens (Jake Gyllenhaal) wakes up disoriented, unsure where he is or how he got there, let alone why the pretty young woman sitting across from him (Michelle Monaghan) keeps calling him "Sean." By the time Stevens works out some basic facts about his situation, including the startling discovery that the face he sees in the bathroom mirror isn't his own (although it matches the ID in his wallet, which belongs to a high school teacher named Sean Fentress), a huge explosion rips through the train, obliterating him and Monaghan's character and a whole lot of other people. (Summit Entertainment has posted the first five minutes of "Source Code" on YouTube, and it's among the better teasers of recent memory.)

When Stevens wakes up again, he's upside down, strapped into some kind of decrepit metal space capsule, with an all-business female officer (it's the ever-terrific Vera Farmiga, working wonders with a role that could have been nothing) talking to him through a low-quality video connection, apparently from a base code-named Beleaguered Castle. She's able to use some "Manchurian Candidate"-style tricks -- a sequence of playing cards, a story containing code words -- to reorient him a little bit, and urges him to go right back into the simulation or training exercise or whatever it is and try to find the bomb and the bomber. Waging an internal battle between military discipline and simple human confusion, Stevens demands to be briefed: Why can't he remember anything since his last mission over Afghanistan? Has he been evacuated to the United States? When can he call his dad? What and where is this creaky vessel that seems to be leaking hydraulic fluid?

Eventually those questions will be answered, but not here of course. Spoiler warning: I won't go beyond the first set of plot revelations, those widely available in the film's publicity campaign. If you've avoided those and want to continue to do so, please step away from the Internet, sir. The double mystery in "Source Code" is deftly handled by Jones (who also made the intriguing sci-fi indie "Moon," and is pre-famous as the son of rock legend David Bowie) and screenwriter Ben Ripley, who forge an interlocking double helix of discoveries as Stevens relives the train bombing, "Groundhog Day" style, over and over again. Despite warnings from Goodwin (that's Farmiga's icy officer, who does warm up a little) and her twitchy, Strangelove-esque boss, Dr. Rutledge (Jeffrey Wright), Stevens begins to use his eight-minute sessions aboard the doomed train to learn what he can about his own fate, as well as to sort through the clues and characters around him: the grouchy stand-up comic, the college student, the older woman with the tote bag from a military hospital, the douchey guy with the Bluetooth headset and the rest of them.

Stevens runs through his "mission" at least six times, in fact -- not counting the ones that speed by in tiny fragments -- and each one is a little different. Not just because he pursues different threads of the story each time, discovering where the bomb is planted or harassing a Middle Eastern-looking guy in a suit (innocent, of course) or stealing a gun or making unauthorized phone calls to the Air Force, but because he gets to know his role as Sean Fentress a little better, and pays more attention to the winsome Christina (Monaghan), who has evidently been waiting a while for Sean to make his move. If the science behind what's going on in the super-secret time-travel and/or astral projection project at Beleaguered Castle is almost pure hokum, there's just enough pop physics, and more than enough real human psychology, to lend this intriguing popcorn movie some depth.

Jones keeps the plot mechanics whirring on at least three levels, if not four (once you count Stevens-as-Sean's burgeoning romance with Christina and Stevens' subtly shifting video relationship with Goodwin), which may distract you from some of the film's odder strengths and liabilities. Goodwin and Rutledge keep exhorting Stevens not to overthink his situation, and they may as well be addressing the audience, since I'm not sure suspension of disbelief can cover all the logical and philosophical fallacies embedded into this "Quantum Leap"-style yarn. Still, I agree with them: That's not the point.

Ingeniously, Ripley and Jones withhold nearly all the canned characterization or "relatable" back-story material you'd expect from a conventional Hollywood thriller. Everything we learn about Stevens and Christina and Goodwin by the end of the film comes from their actions, not their words. That lends "Source Code" an elusive, almost arty shimmer beneath its glossy, action-movie surface. I suspect it will play well on repeat viewings despite (or possibly because of) its unsolvable plot koans. Gyllenhaal begins the movie playing Stevens as a clean, controlled, masculine Hitchcock-type hero, engaged in an individual struggle against the cruel machineries of God. By the end of "Source Code" he's become a different kind of hero, one who has stepped out of time for a moment and gotten a glimpse behind the curtain of existence, à la, I don't know, Dave Bowman in "2001: A Space Odyssey" or a Zen master or something. He has learned what we all already know but have trouble remembering, that all we ever have is right now: Someone spilling Coke on our shoe, a girl to kiss on a train, the sight and sound of geese taking off from water.
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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2011, 01:29:51 am »
After reading these, I found myslef humming "Ground Control to Major Tom..." and didn't know why at first.  It's David Bowie's son, innit?

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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2011, 07:57:47 pm »
I'm just happy I can go see a Jake flick without worrying.


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http://www.washingtonpost.com/gog/movies/source-code,1173314/critic-review.html


Source Code   
Let's do the time warp again, and again

By Ann Hornaday
Friday, April 1, 2011


The nifty speculative thriller “Source Code” obeys one of the fundamental rules of Hollywood, wherein amateurs borrow and professionals steal. In this case, screenwriter Ben Ripley has filched from the best, delivering a taut, mostly well-crafted race against the clock that combines the time-loop conceit of “Groundhog Day” and the postwar paranoia of “The Manchurian Candidate.”

“The Groundhogian Candidate,” anyone?

Jake Gyllenhaal’s Colter Stevens, a decorated U.S. soldier recently deployed in Afghanistan, doesn’t play much solitaire in “Source Code.” Then again he doesn’t really have the time. The movie opens with Stevens jolting awake on a Chicago commuter train, while his pretty seat mate (Michelle Monaghan) chatters happily away about quitting her job. Disoriented, Stevens has no idea who this woman is or why he’s on the train. A few minutes later, a bomb goes off and he’s sucked into yet another reality, a cramped metallic capsule smelling strongly of hydraulic fluid.

What’s going on? And who’s that uniformed lady talking in Stevens’s ear? That would be a dulcet-voiced but shadowy handler named Goodwin (Vera Farmiga), who with her boss (Jeffrey Wright) operates an experimental time-travel operation for the U.S. military. As "Source Code" unfolds in a series of cleverly assembled accordion pleats, it all begins to make sense, sort of, as Stevens discovers he’s on a mission with supernatural overtones but very real consequences.

Adroitly directed by Duncan Jones ("Moon"), "Source Code” clicks along with swift, crisp tension, with Gyllenhaal delivering an assured lead performance as a man at once out of his depth and supremely self-assured. He joins a recent spate of ordinary men assuming extraordinary control over their own fates, including Matt Damon in “The Adjustment Bureau” and Bradey Cooper in “Limitless.” (Is this trend a wish-fulfillment response to collective anxiety in the face of overwhelming and uncertain economic and social times? Discuss!)

Indeed, it’s the persuasive turns of all the cast members — within an otherwise preposterous setup — that allow filmgoers to surrender to the propulsive force of “Source Code.” Monaghan and Farmiga are especially winning as the sympathetic women who coax Stevens along a path that, while preordained, he insists on twisting. The only misstep comes from Wright, who lays the Poindexter nerdiness on a bit thick as a hard-hearted scientist.

As for outright stumbles, “Source Code” loses its footing at the end, with a conclusion that strikes a discordantly mushy note after the carefully calibrated procedural that has gone before. But for the most part, “Source Code” delivers on its promises with precision and care — all that’s missing is Punxsutawney Phil and a toast to world peace.

Contains some violence, including some disturbing images, and profanity.
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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2011, 08:59:51 pm »
Looks like Jake's "Source Code" is set to finish at #2 for the weekend, behind the Easter cartoon movie "Hop".


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1                     HOP                      $11,435,000

2                     SOURCE CODE        $5,000,000
 
3                     INSIDIOUS             $4,800,000

4                     LIMITLESS              $3,050,000

5                     DIARY/WIMPY KID   $2,800,000

6                     LINCOLN LAWYER    $2,050,000

7                     SUCKER PUNCH        $1,920,000

8                     PAUL                      $1,275,000

9                     RANGO                   $1,225,000

10                   BATTLE: L. A.          $1,050,000


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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2011, 09:12:06 pm »
Mess with reality all you want, but Jake's eyes are not green, they are blue!
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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
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Looks like Jake's "Source Code" is set to finish at #2 for the weekend, behind the Easter cartoon movie "Hop".


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1                     HOP                      $11,435,000

2                     SOURCE CODE        $5,000,000
 
3                     INSIDIOUS             $4,800,000

4                     LIMITLESS              $3,050,000

5                     DIARY/WIMPY KID   $2,800,000

6                     LINCOLN LAWYER    $2,050,000

7                     SUCKER PUNCH        $1,920,000

8                     PAUL                      $1,275,000

9                     RANGO                   $1,225,000

10                   BATTLE: L. A.          $1,050,000







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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2011, 10:23:29 am »
YaaaaY!!! Happy to see Jake's new movie getting good press!!! WTG, Jake!  :)
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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2011, 03:19:56 pm »
I went to see it yesterday and I loved it


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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2011, 03:41:45 pm »
I went to see it yesterday and I loved it



 whats wrong with me... I did see it too, yesterday. But I didn't enjoy very much. Whats wrong? Its JAKE, HELLO! Not even his slimfit skirt, could make me wanna watch the entire movie. 

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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2011, 11:51:40 am »
I saw it on Thursday with Lisa/BBMISwear.   Thanks, Lisa!

I loved it.  So happy to see Jake in another decent film.  (I also liked Love and Other Drugs.)

Very smart and engaging film.  You care about what happens to Jake's character.  The Groundhog Day gimic is not overdone, there remains a sense of urgency.  Jake was fantastic; it's easy to sympathize with his situation, partly because it isn't clear what's up.  I didn't particularly care for Michelle Monaghan, but Vera Farmiga was superb in what could have been a wooden role.  She changes right along with Jake's character, very subtly.  Jeffrey Wright's big boss was more caricature, unfortunately, and without any subtlety. 

I know there have been comparisons to Inception, but to me, there's no contest.  Inception spent way too much time trying to explain the unexplainable; Source Code doesn't really try, rather focusing on the human story.  Smart move. 

I'll definitely see it again.  I think it was Lisa's fourth time. 

Gorgeous cinematography.  However, I disliked the music, derivative and distracting at points. 




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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2011, 11:54:49 am »
Great review...thanks, friend!
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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2011, 11:56:08 am »
A little trivia:  Vera Farmiga has acted both with Jake and with Heath.  She was in "Roar", playing Caitlin to Heath's Conor, in the Australian TV series from the '90s.


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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2011, 11:59:09 am »
Vera is being honored at this year's Provincetown International Film Festival with their Excellence in Acting award!

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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2011, 12:56:28 pm »



A little trivia:  Vera Farmiga has acted both with Jake and with Heath.  She was in "Roar", playing Caitlin to Heath's Conor, in the Australian TV series from the '90s.






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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2011, 11:34:24 pm »
Thanks for the "Source Code" review, Paul.  8)

I like Vera Farmiga.  I sometimes get her mixed up with Claire Forlani, though.
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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2011, 01:17:02 am »
You probably all know that David Bowie was and is my primary point of reference in all ways, including being my first and primary fandom.   I've been a Bowie fan since I was 12 and he has influenced me in every way, including things as significant as career choice.

I really can't believe that my BBM interest has intersected so closely with my Bowie interest. 

Honestly, the Bowie aspect of this is more interesting to me than the Jake aspect (sorry to say here).  Duncan (Zowie) was shrouded in such mystery for most of Bowie's career... Bowie was very protective and refused to allow photography, etc. of his son for decades.   There are photos of Duncan/Zowie from when he was a toddler... but, then nothing, but references in interviews (up until Moon was released).  I've been having so much fun doing YouTube searches for Duncan's  interviews and award wins since Moon came out.  Bowie's ex-wife Angie, always said in interviews that Duncan has her eyes... and it's true!!  I think everyone in the Bowie world is somewhat surprised that Duncan's wanted to do something creative.  For a long time it seemed (based on comments Bowie made) that Duncan was interested in computers and mathematics and then later philosophy.  The filmmaking thing is a wonderful, interesting surprise.

Anyway, Duncan (Zowie Duncan Haywood Bowie / Jones... Jones is still the family last name... David Bowie's legal last name is still "Jones") was born when Bowie was recording the Hunky Dory album in 1971 (probably most famous because it includes "Changes").  There's a song on Hunky Dory about the birth of Duncan (Zowie) called "Kooks".

Here's a wonderful live version of Kooks where there's discussion about his son being born...
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN3Q_Yr8ZD0[/youtube]

And, this is the studio version of "Kooks."
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iXEG3hMxjY&NR=1[/youtube]
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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2011, 09:05:34 am »


Here's a wonderful live version of Kooks where there's discussion about his son being born...
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN3Q_Yr8ZD0[/youtube]

And, this is the studio version of "Kooks."
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iXEG3hMxjY&NR=1[/youtube]




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Zowie Bowie:
How a son of rock royalty
survived a bitter rift with his mother
to earn genuine success


By Caroline Graham
Last updated at 10:00 PM on 8th August 2009



The way they were: Angie, David and Zowie in the Seventies



Older and wiser: Zowie, who now uses
the name Duncan Jones



His mother and father were drink and drug abusers, given to violent rows. While they disappeared on binges, he was left in the care of an employee.

When his parents' marriage broke up amid acrimony and accusations, he was packed off to an austere boarding school where his ridiculous name set him apart from his classmates.

And as he tried to make his own way in the world, he first had to step out from the long shadow cast by his rock-legend father.

It is a textbook blueprint for delinquency and dissolution. Had Duncan Jones, son of David and Angie Bowie and formerly named ' Zowie Bowie', become a fixture on the gossip pages and regularly been seen falling out of nightclubs, no one would have been surprised.

So the fact that Jones has overcome his troubled childhood to make a brilliant debut film feted by critics and audiences alike, all without trading on the family name, is a triumph.

The Hollywood 'bible', Daily Variety,  described Moon,  directed by Jones, as ' ingenious and trailblazing'. When it was shown at the Sundance Film Festival, it sparked a bidding war between studios. It was released to similar acclaim in Britain last month.

The tense science-fiction drama, about a solitary lunar worker who has to face isolation, fear and his own mortality, has even been tipped as a contender for the Best Picture Oscar next year.

But for one woman, Moon  has an even greater significance. Angie Bowie, Jones's estranged mother, watched his haunting film through a veil of tears. In an exclusive interview with The Mail on Sunday  she reveals how her serious shortcomings as a parent underline the extent of his achievement.

'It is a great work of art,' she says. 'He deserves an Oscar. What upset me is how powerful and personal it is. It is all about alienation and abandonment, and for the first time I realised how much grief I caused my son by letting him go.'

Angie, 59, has not heard from her 38-year-old son in years. She claims he effectively cut her out of his life when he was 14 - and she places the blame on David Bowie who, she says, 'poisoned' her first-born against her and used his vast fortune to alienate her from her son.

Standing outside the cinema after seeing the film, Angie, who still has the peroxide-blonde hair and trim figure that made her an icon in the Seventies, admits her turbulent ten-year marriage to Bowie must have had a lasting impact on Duncan, whom she still calls Zowie.

He ditched the name in favour of the more sedate Duncan when he started his film-making career.

His mother says: 'When I saw the film I felt only one overriding emotion, and that was grief. My son is messed up. The film is about one man's isolation and confusion, and I now realise, through Zowie's art, what a mistake I made leaving him.'

Angie met Bowie in 1969, when she was a 20-year-old student in London. His real name was David Jones, but he had changed it to David Bowie.

Born in 1949 to a US Army colonel based in Cyprus and a 'traditional' housewife, Angie rebelled against her privileged life at a Swiss private school. At 18, she was sent to college in America but was expelled for having a lesbian relationship.

So she moved to London to attend art school. When she met Bowie it was, according to Angie, a meeting of souls.

He was the boy from Bromley, Kent, desperate for stardom. She was the pushy American willing to do anything to make it happen.

She says: 'He was slim, pale-skinned and a little alien-looking. He was a middle-class boy wanting to be a rock star. David had talent but needed focus. He had lots of girlfriends and even some boyfriends at the time. But when I came along, he realised I was someone who could help him reach the next level.

'It wasn't a hearts-and-flowers romance. We got married because I was an American who needed to stay in London and he was a weak Brit who needed me to break down doors and turn him into a star.'

They moved into Haddon Hall, a large mansion in Beckenham, Kent, where they enjoyed a Bohemian lifestyle. 'There were always artists and creative people coming in and out. Marc Bolan, the Stones - they were all visitors,' says Angie.

'In the early days I was everything to David. I was his creative partner, his lover, his soul mate.'

Although their son arrived on May 30, 1971, barely a year after their wedding at Bromley Register Office, she says a child was always planned: 'David longed for a boy.'

When Zowie was born it was, she says 'the happiest day of both our lives. I remember giving birth in Bromley Hospital annexe. It was painful. Zowie was 8lb 8oz. David was there the whole time. It was the first and only time I saw David cry.'

Zowie was christened Duncan Zowie Haywood Jones. Zowie was a corruption of the girls' name Zoe, the Greek word for life. His father wrote the song Kooks for him and it appeared on the album Hunky Dory.  It contained the line: 'If you stay with us, you're gonna be pretty kooky too.'

Angie says: 'We were messed up as a couple but this little creature came and David was a great dad. But when the baby was around, our lifestyle just didn't work.'

Zowie ended up being raised mostly by a Scottish nanny, Marion Skene, and moved between London, Berlin and Switzerland. Angie admits: 'David and I were away doing drugs, at first together and then later apart. Marion effectively became Zowie's mother.'

By the mid-Seventies, the marriage was a sham. While Bowie launched his Ziggy Stardust character and started making millions, Angie claims his hatred for her intensified.

She says: 'It was a parallel universe. I'd take Zowie to the circus and then I'd come home and David would tell me what a lousy mother I was. We were drunk. Zowie was crying in the corner as we screamed at each other.'

In 1980, the couple split. Angie descended into a long twilight of drug addiction before her father helped her to beat it. She met another musician, with whom she had a daughter, Stasha, now 29.

Meanwhile, Bowie was granted custody of nine-year-old Zowie, who was sent to Gordonstoun, the harsh Scottish boarding school attended by Prince Charles.

Angie says: 'I tried calling Zowie. I tried to get a lawyer to fight for me in London and New York but everyone turned me down.'

She says she recalls Zowie saying to her, 'I am so unhappy, Mummy,' but concedes she took a £500,000 settlement from Bowie, effectively money in exchange for her son. How on earth, as a mother, could she have done such a thing?

'You don't understand,' she says. 'David had money. Zowie was with him. I thought Zowie was better off with David than me, initially. I didn't know what else to do.

'When I got off drugs Zowie was 13 or 14 and at Gordonstoun and we spoke and he told me he was angry at me. He told me his dad gave him money and stuff I couldn't. It made me mad.'

Angie now sees she was wrong to cut her son out of her life. After her daughter was born she had a series of relationships before settling with Michael Gassett, an electrical engineer nearly 20 years her junior.

'Zowie came to see me when he was 14 and I was living on 8th Street in New York, which was a Bohemian neighbourhood,' she says.

'Zowie looked around at my place, and said, "This is horrid." I screamed at him, "Don't be so bourgeois!" It's something I regret to this day. He looked at me and said, "I hate you."'

Angie did not hear from her son again until six years ago. 'My daughter Stasha found him on the internet,' she says. 'He emailed me and I didn't know what to say. So I put them together. They corresponded for a bit and then that stopped. He is cold, like his father. David cut me off. Zowie, or Duncan, cut me and Stasha off.'

In the past, David Bowie has said: 'Living with Angie was like living with a blowtorch. She has as much insight into the human condition as a walnut and a self-interest that would make Narcissus green with envy.'

At times she's certainly difficult to warm to. Dressed in a tight black top and miniskirt, she is defensive and appears on the verge of tears.

She bristles when questioned about her motives for speaking about her son - she received no payment for this interview. Today, she and Michael live in Tucson, Arizona, in a one-room flat. Angie admits 'life is hard'.

In Moon,  the main character is a mine worker on the Moon. The film focuses on his loneliness and his yearning for his family on Earth. A character, who Angie seems to believe represents her, is killed off, and one gets the feeling she finally might understand the reasons why.

'When I saw the film I realised how alone Zowie feels,' she says. 'It's painful and heartbreaking. But David used his millions to poison Zowie against me. He bought our son.

'I now realise I should have put up more of a fight. But I didn't and that is something I shall have to live with for the rest of my life. Perhaps Zowie, or Duncan, wishes I was dead. After seeing his film I would love him to embrace me and welcome me in after all these years.'

But she adds: 'He is no longer a child, he is a 38-year-old man. I don't know if it's not best to just leave well alone. His film doesn't have a happy ending and nor does real life.

'I love my son but I was never there for him, so I understand why he hates me.'
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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2011, 02:43:59 pm »
^Wow, well that's quite the tabloid-esque piece. 

Angie certainly has her side of the story and has written at least one book about some of this (it came out in the mid-1990s, so way prior to Duncan's current career).

One of the funnier parts of that is the statement that "By the mid-Seventies, the marriage was a sham"... I think it was a kind of marriage of convenience from the very beginning.  It is one very slanted side of the story. 

I've read recent interviews with Duncan where he talks about really having seen everything through the craziest years of the 70s. The mid and late 70s were definitely Bowie's worst drug years and Angie wasn't really in any condition to be a responsible parent either.  So, it's really a good thing that Duncan had a reliable nanny (it's just the practical thing in a situation like that anyway, and is probably the case for most celebrity kids).  But, he says that by the 80s and after the actual divorce from Angie, Bowie tried really hard to be a good parent.  After the 70s, it seems to me that Bowie was quite level headed about raising Duncan as well as possible in the context of a rock and rolll lifestyle (touring all the time, etc.).  And, yeah, like I said he was shrouded in quite a bit of mystery for a long time since Bowie tried to shield him from the media.  It's particularly interesting to hear Duncan's side of things and realize that he has his own voice in this.  Both he and David really are quite level-headed these days.  They did manage to come through the craziest years pretty well, and I get the sense that they have a pretty good relationship.

Honestly, as wild as the 70s were... I think Duncan is very lucky to have some memories of that phase in his Dad's career.  It was all so important.

Here's an interesting bit of trivia... This Ziggy Stardust photoshoot with Mick Rock was done in Duncan's nursery room at Bowie's famous, early residence called Haddon Hall.  One of the photos was used as the back cover art for a re-issue of the Space Oddity album.  No wonder sci-fi metaphors are so prominent for Duncan these days.


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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2011, 05:33:33 pm »
If she was born in 1949, it seems to me that she would be 61, not 59. This article definitely needed some fact checking.
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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2011, 07:17:00 pm »



^Wow, well that's quite the tabloid-esque piece.  




Well, it's the Daily Mail,  after all!



Here's an interesting bit of trivia... This Ziggy Stardust photoshoot with Mick Rock was done in Duncan's nursery room at Bowie's famous, early residence called Haddon Hall.  One of the photos was used as the back cover art for a re-issue of the Space Oddity album.  No wonder sci-fi metaphors are so prominent for Duncan these days.

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If she was born in 1949, it seems to me that she would be 61, not 59. This article definitely needed some fact checking.



As bad as it is, Lee (again, Well, it's the Daily Mail ) the article was written nearly two years ago--hence the seeming discrepancy.

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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2011, 08:21:43 am »
Angie
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Angie, Angie
When will those clouds all disappear?
Angie, Angie
Where will it lead us from here?
With no loving in our souls
And no money in our coats
You can't say we're satisfied
But Angie, Angie
You can't say we never tried
Angie, You're beautiful
But ain't it time we said goodbye
Angie, I still love you
Remember all those nights we cried?
All the dreams we held so close
Seemed to all go up in smoke
Let me whisper in your ear
Angie, Angie
Where will it lead us from here?
Angie, don't you weep
All your kisses still taste sweet
I hate that sadness in your eyes
But Angie, Angie
Ain't it time we said goodbye?
With no loving in our souls
And no money in our coats
You can't say we're satisfied
But Angie, I still love you, baby
Everywhere I look I see your eyes
There ain't a woman that comes close to you
Come on baby dry your eyes
But Angie, Ain't it...
Ain't it good to be alive?
Angie, Angie
You can't say we never tried



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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2011, 08:37:24 am »
I saw the movie last night and thought it was pretty good.

So if Angie Bowie sees Moon as a metaphor for her son's feelings of abandonment, then in Source Code Vera Farmiga's and Jeffrey Wright's characters -- the military scientists who keep relentlessly sending Jake onto the doomed train, giving him little information about his situation or his fate, harshly circumscribing his personal freedom -- must represent his parents.

But wait, Vera Farmiga's character is much more sympathetic. Maybe Duncan Jones switched the parents' genders just to mix things up a bit, or maybe he has warmer feelings toward Angie than we thought, or ...

Or maybe it's just a cigar.  ???


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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2011, 08:49:58 am »
A little trivia:  Vera Farmiga has acted both with Jake and with Heath.  She was in "Roar", playing Caitlin to Heath's Conor, in the Australian TV series from the '90s.

good find, Paul!


I can´t even find a release date for Source Code in Sweden. Maybe it won´t open here.

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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2011, 08:55:20 am »
Oh - just found the release date for Sweden.


August 5


can you believe it? In the rest of Europe it will open in April through June.


I was intending to wait and watch it in a cinema, but no way that I will wait that long

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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #37 on: April 11, 2011, 09:55:47 pm »
                         Dad

Yes! His Dad is a genius... and, for better or worse, Duncan's building a lot of these films off of his Dad's old metaphors.  FWIW, Bowie has never been genuinely interested in sci-fi... it's all about the metaphor of the outsider / the outcast / someone looking at earth and humans from a detached perspective.   There was actually a smart interview with Duncan about Moon where the interviewer asked him why he made a movie about "Space Oddity" (which was based on a movie to begin with).....  He had no good answer other than to say that he was raised surrounded with that kind of imagery.

Some of those old Mick Rock photos are so beautiful. This is another one.  The Ziggy project was very serious.  There's a lot of interesting history to the costume... some related to Japanese theatre and some related to an underground gay culture in London (both the Japanese and the London related to androgyny).  The haircut came from the underground gay scene in London as a reaction to hippie trends re: long hair.  It's also about identity - persona on top of persona... the key is to understand that Bowie is a persona for David Robert Jones.  Nothing he ever does as "Bowie" can be considered completely real - including interviews.



Anyway, about Angie...

I love how in the article John posted, Angie blames a 14 year old for rejecting her.  That just seems harsh and unrealistic (when it comes to expectations regarding 14 year olds).  Also, as far as I understand, Bowie had a restraining order against Angie for a long time - so that may have a lot to do with that circumstance.

I feel bad for Angie in a lot of ways... but, she is her own worst enemy in a lot of ways.


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Angie, Angie
When will those clouds all disappear?
Angie, Angie
Where will it lead us from here?
With no loving in our souls
And no money in our coats
You can't say we're satisfied
But Angie, Angie
You can't say we never tried
Angie, You're beautiful
But ain't it time we said goodbye
Angie, I still love you
Remember all those nights we cried?
All the dreams we held so close
Seemed to all go up in smoke
Let me whisper in your ear
Angie, Angie
Where will it lead us from here?
Angie, don't you weep
All your kisses still taste sweet
I hate that sadness in your eyes
But Angie, Angie
Ain't it time we said goodbye?
With no loving in our souls
And no money in our coats
You can't say we're satisfied
But Angie, I still love you, baby
Everywhere I look I see your eyes
There ain't a woman that comes close to you
Come on baby dry your eyes
But Angie, Ain't it...
Ain't it good to be alive?
Angie, Angie
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"Drive in Saturday"
(Bowie, '73 - from Aladdin Sane... the same album where he covers the Stones "Let's Spend the Night Together" <- which by the way, he dedicated to Mick live on stage at the final Ziggy concert in 73)

Let me put my arms around your head
Gee, it's hot, let's go to bed
Don't forget to turn on the light
Don't laugh babe, it'll be alright
Pour me out another phone
I'll ring and see if your friends are home
Perhaps the strange ones in the dome
Can lend us a book we can read up alone

And try to get it on like once before
When people stared in Jagger's eyes and scored
Like the video films we saw

His name was always Buddy
And he'd shrug and ask to stay
She'd sigh like Twig the Wonder Kid
And turn her face away


She's uncertain if she likes him
But she knows she really loves him
It's a crash course for the ravers
It's a Drive-in Saturday

Jung the foreman prayed at work
That neither hands nor limbs would burst
It's hard enough to keep formation with this fall out saturation
Cursing at the Astronette
Who stands in steel by his cabinet
He's crashing out with Sylvian
The Bureau Supply for ageing men
With snorting head he gazes to the shore
Which once had raised a sea that raged no more
Like the video films we saw

His name was always Buddy
And he'd shrug and ask to stay
She'd sigh like Twig the Wonder Kid
And turn her face away

She's uncertain if she likes him
But she knows she really loves him
It's a crash course for the ravers
It's a Drive-in Saturday"


This song, is widely interpreted to be about people in some strange futuristic society who have forgotten about romance, learning how to have sex again (though there are clearly lots of ways to interpret it).  They read books, and watch video tapes of Mick Jagger! And the woman referenced in the part I put in bold is often interpreted to be Angie (and her famous rejection of Mick).  It's also a not-so subtle reference to his own affair with Mick.  "Buddy" was apparently Mick's hotel pseudonym for a while.

In more recent years, Angie has tried to use her knowledge of this affair to embarass David and/or Mick... but, what I think she doesn't understand (and she should) is that neither one of them deny it... and I think they both think it's a major score.  I think it's very easy to see them as groupies for one another... and Bowie even chose his stage name in the beginning based on Jagger's last name.
 :D


*Also as a complete side note... the second line that I put in bold about the "ravers" is believed to be the source for our modern-day concept of "rave" parties.  T.Rex also used this word -"rave"- in lyrics from this same glam era... so it could be a combo of influences from Bowie and T.Rex.

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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #38 on: April 11, 2011, 11:58:16 pm »
p.s. an amazing photo of Mick Rock with David...  Rock is a Cambridge University educated artist.

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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #39 on: April 12, 2011, 12:00:28 am »

Anyway, about Angie...

I love how in the article John posted, Angie blames a 14 year old for rejecting her.  That just seems harsh and unrealistic (when it comes to expectations regarding 14 year olds).  Also, as far as I understand, Bowie had a restraining order against Angie for a long time - so that may have a lot to do with that circumstance.

I feel bad for Angie in a lot of ways... but, she is her own worst enemy in a lot of ways.




'Zowie came to see me when he was 14 and I was living on 8th Street in New York, which was a Bohemian neighbourhood,' she says.

'Zowie looked around at my place, and said, "This is horrid." I screamed at him, "Don't be so bourgeois!" It's something I regret to this day. He looked at me and said, "I hate you."'

Angie did not hear from her son again until six years ago. 'My daughter Stasha found him on the internet,' she says. 'He emailed me and I didn't know what to say. So I put them together. They corresponded for a bit and then that stopped. He is cold, like his father. David cut me off. Zowie, or Duncan, cut me and Stasha off.'

(....)

'I love my son but I was never there for him, so I understand why he hates me.'




Sigh.

Poor Duncan. (And poor Angie--but really --isn't it time  for her to use the name that Duncan so obviously prefers? God.)

The visit with his mother--gosh, what a nightmare. I know the entire length of Eighth Street (including St. Mark's Place, the stretch between Third Avenue and Avenue 'A'--one of my dearest friends lived on the corner of St. Mark's and First Avenue in the late Seventies and early Eighties). Anyway. In 1985, when Duncan was 14 years old, it was--well, it was still raw and rough. All I can say, is--it must have been a shock. If he had been a few years older, it would have seemed cool,  but at 14, some boys are still--boy-ish. I wonder if he had any friends there? The actor, Liev Shrieber, just four years older (and with an incredibly difficult mother!) lived there quite fearlessly, but, at that age, four years is just too big a gap--

Poor Duncan.

Oh well.

Sad.

Maybe not, though. He has an amazing career ahead of him--


(postscript re: the neighborhood and changing times and utter irony --for ten years Bowie and Iman have lived in a luxuriously 'bourgeois' penthouse in a renovated historic building just minutes away from the 'horrid' bohemian pad. I'm sure Duncan is fully aware of the irony--)
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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2011, 01:07:51 am »
1985 is also the year that David Bowie's brother committed suicide.

This was after a decade and a half of Terry being institutionalized for schizophrenia (his brother, Terry threw himself under a train).   Terry was put in a mental hospital around 1970, and many think this situation relates strongly to the lyrics in Bowie's  The Man Who Sold the World album, way back when.  There's a song on that album called "All the Madmen."  And, the lyrics of "Width of a Circle" combine Bowie's experience of witnessing Terry's first schizophrenic break (where he apparently thought the sidewalk was splitting in two) with David's own experience of losing his own virginity with a man.

The lyrical theme of insanity that runs through all of Bowie's lyrics relates not only to Terry, but a huge, scary history in Bowie's (maternal) line with a disposition towards schizophrenia.  Many think that Bowie's complex adoption of multiple personae has do to with an active desire to stave of insanity.

Some biographers say that he never wanted to have children because he was afraid of passing this on... but, now he has Duncan and a daughter (and a step-daughter) with Iman -clearly good things.  But, I think this family history probably worries him profoundly.

(This is two parts because the guitar solo is so long in the middle, LOL)
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agMCN8DlX9g[/youtube]
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"Width of a Circle"
In the corner of the morning in the past
I would sit and blame the master first and last
All the roads were straight and narrow
And the prayers were small and yellow
And the rumour spread that I was aging fast
Then I ran across a monster who was sleeping by a tree.
And I looked and frowned and the monster was me

Well, I said hello and I said hello
And I asked "Why not?" and I replied "I don't know"
So we asked a simple black bird, who was happy as can be
And he laughed insane and quipped "KAHLIL GIBRAN"
So I cried for all the others till the day was nearly through
For I realized that God's a young man too

So I said "So long" and I waved "Bye-bye"
And I smashed my soul and traded my mind
Got laid by a young bordello
I was vaguely half asleep
For which my reputation swept back home in drag
And the moral of this magic spell
Negotiates my hide
When God did take my logic for a ride
(Riding along)

He swallowed his pride and puckered his lips
And showed me the leather belt round his hips
My knees were shaking my cheeks aflame
He said "You'll never go down to the Gods again"
(Turn around,go back!)

He struck the ground, a cavern appeared
And I smelt the burning pit of fear
We crashed a thousand yards below
I said "Do it again, do it again"
(Turn around,go back!)

His nebulous body swayed above
His tongue swollen with devil's love
The snake and I, a venom high
I said "Do it again, do it again"
(Turn around, go back!)

Breathe, breathe, breathe deeply
And I was seething, breathing deeply
Spitting sentry, horned and tailed
Waiting for you."

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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #41 on: April 12, 2011, 08:01:41 am »




1985 is also the year that David Bowie's brother committed suicide.


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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #42 on: April 12, 2011, 08:12:40 am »

Sorry for taking us a bit off-topic.

I did see Source Code over the weekend and I liked it.  I agree with what people are saying about this being a really good performance for Jake. :)
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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #43 on: April 12, 2011, 10:03:01 am »



Sorry for taking us a bit off-topic.


Not at all, Amanda--I think you might have revealed a hidden line in the real source code of Source Code...


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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #44 on: April 12, 2011, 02:44:13 pm »
Sorry for taking us a bit off-topic.

I did see Source Code over the weekend and I liked it.  I agree with what people are saying about this being a really good performance for Jake. :)

Thank you Amanda for the information, I learned a lot new interesting things. And I could only agree with John you definitely have found a hidden line in the real source code of  the movie SOURCE CODE

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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #45 on: April 12, 2011, 05:04:20 pm »

Thanks Buds. :)  I just get overly excited when I get an opportunity to talk about Bowie.  ;D

And, I still can't believe how Jake/Brokie interests have so closely intersected with that.
But, it's very cool.
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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #46 on: April 13, 2011, 12:38:10 am »
I feel the need to add a bit more detail about Terry (Bowie's older half-brother).  Terry was Bowie's mother's son from a relationship previous to her marriage to David's father.  Terry and David were very close growing up, David idolized Terry as the "cool older brother" and I think Bowie truly loved Terry. Anyway, early on Terry had some interest in jazz music in London and was very handsome and smart, etc..  So, when David was a teenager and Terry was older, Terry would take David out to music clubs (somewhat important to Bowie's musical development).  Terry's schizophrenia didn't manifest until he was in his 20s (which, I guess is common with that disease).  Terry's first episode happened when David was out with him (I think coming back from a club) and Terry thought the sidewalk was breaking in two and turning into a pit of fire (the reference in "Width of a Circle").  

I guess Terry's illness was very severe and he was institutionalized for most of his life.  There are about a million lyrical references to Terry/insanity in Bowie's music.  So, I won't get into all of that.  

The train symbolism is important though... Terry tried to kill himself at least one time before he was successful.  In his first attempt (I can't recall when it was) he laid on train tracks, but lost his nerve and curled up so that the train went over him, but did not kill him.  Ultimately this is how he died in late 1985 (by lying on train tracks).

There is strange resonance in some of Bowie's music... most prominently his important song "Station to Station" (1976)... which begins with the sound of a train.  And, live (I've seen only one performance of this live in 1990)... what Bowie does (and has staged it this way since the 70s) is he has the lights sweep over the crowd and the roof of the arena so, with the loud sound and the lighting... you really feel like a train is coming or going over you.  I think this song pre-dates Terry's first suicide attempt.... And, I think that staging of the song also pre-dates all of the Terry-suicide story.  But, it clearly has profound links to the Terry story post-1985.  It's scary-chilling.

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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #47 on: April 13, 2011, 03:29:19 am »
Anyone else who have seen Source Code yet? I wanna hear what you all think!


and still bummed about the movie not opening here until August 5th. I´m gonna watch it long before then, but I had been looking forward to seeing it on the big screen.

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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #48 on: April 13, 2011, 08:26:43 pm »




The train symbolism is important though... Terry tried to kill himself at least one time before he was successful.  In his first attempt (I can't recall when it was) he laid on train tracks, but lost his nerve and curled up so that the train went over him, but did not kill him.  Ultimately this is how he died in late 1985 (by lying on train tracks).




Oh my. I won't say anything more at present other than, yes, the source code inside Source Code.  Thanks, Amanda, I would not have known about Terry and....

Two other things: people have mentioned, I think, that Scott Bakula of Quantum Leap  has a sort of off-camera cameo as Jake's character's father. But. One thing I noticed hidden in the middle of the long end-credits: "Editorial Spirit (sic) de Corps: Eleanor Rigby." A punster, our Mr. Jones.

And, I must say, because of--well, again, won't say more at present, but--

Mr. Jones is, I think, a truly nice man.  

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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #49 on: April 13, 2011, 08:33:17 pm »



and still bummed about the movie not opening here until August 5th. I´m gonna watch it long before then, but I had been looking forward to seeing it on the big screen.


Sorry, Monika--what's up with that? Have the Swedish Consulate in Hollywood complain!

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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #50 on: April 13, 2011, 09:20:39 pm »
All this is really getting me psyched to see the movie!
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Ok, one more comment in re these other borrowings that make up the source code of Source Code:





http://www.washingtonpost.com/gog/movies/source-code,1173314/critic-review.html


"...screenwriter Ben Ripley has filched from the best, delivering a taut, mostly well-crafted race against the clock that combines the time-loop conceit of 'Groundhog Day' and the postwar paranoia of 'The Manchurian Candidate.'"





http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/mar/31/source-code-review


"Source Code  is glitzy and hi-tech in a 21st-century way, but also has something from an earlier age: it is a story from the Twilight Zone,  with hints of Philip K Dick, and traces of the television world of The Prisoner  and The Fugitive.  With its weird deployment of playing cards in one scene, Jones has channelled The Manchurian Candidate  – perhaps specifically through Jonathan Demme 's Iraq-themed remake – and the overall effect is smart and to the point.

"In its own way, Source Code  also aspires slightly to the status of comedy, and Colter's increasingly wan and desperate conversations with Goodwin from his mysterious pod reminded me a little of David Niven's radio conversations with Kim Hunter's June in A Matter of Life and Death  – as he plummets to his certain death, Niven's character exploits his prerogative as a dying man to flirt with this radio operator...."





http://www.salon.com/entertainment/movies/our_picks/index.html?story=/ent/movies/andrew_ohehir/2011/03/31/source_code


"...I suspect it will play well on repeat viewings despite (or possibly because of) its unsolvable plot koans. Gyllenhaal begins the movie playing Stevens as a clean, controlled, masculine Hitchcock-type hero, engaged in an individual struggle against the cruel machineries of God. By the end of "Source Code" he's become a different kind of hero, one who has stepped out of time for a moment and gotten a glimpse behind the curtain of existence,   la, I don't know, Dave Bowman in "2001: A Space Odyssey" or a Zen master or something. He has learned what we all already know but have trouble remembering, that all we ever have is right now: Someone spilling Coke on our shoe, a girl to kiss on a train, the sight and sound of geese taking off from water."




My final comment at present: I think Duncan must  have seen Dalton Trumbo's Johnny Got His Gun  (1971).

Must.
 


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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #52 on: April 15, 2011, 08:26:53 pm »
Movie was good.  I guess compared to BBM, almost everything I see Jake in, I think Jake-Lite.   ;D

Plothole and paradoxes, but enjoyable.

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« Reply #53 on: April 16, 2011, 08:16:09 pm »
I just saw it again this afternoon.

I think Jake's acting was really very good... Actually, I thought all the acting was good.

I also agree that there were plot-holes.  Sci-fi is not one of my favorite movie genres because, it seems to me that in even the best and most iconic sci-fi films there are almost always plot-holes.  The ideas often get so complex and nuanced that the plots get confused or mixed up along the way.



*perhaps some Spoilers ahead, so beware*

The extreme, almost overstated optimism of the ending was interesting to me.  Duncan borrows so much from his Dad's symbolic world (which is extremely well-developed and nuanced after all these decades... Bowie almost has his own language of symbols that recur in his lyrics, performance and imagery).  But, this very insistent optimism is something a bit different.  And, good for Duncan for that.

The scene at the Glenbrook train station in the middle of the film still has me very shaken.  Honestly, it's a very brave thing to confront the train subject at all, IMO.  Certainly Duncan has taken on a huge family tragedy in not even close to subtle terms, and then blended it again with something like "Major Tom"-esque episodes (stuck in a capsule, etc.).  Also, at some point during that scene someone literally yells something like "are you insane."  Wow.  There's clearly a lot, especially at the beginning of the film with Jake's profound confusion, seeming to think he's someone else, etc. that suggests a kind of mental instability or loss of control.  But, it all seems to become so literal in that train station scene.

To have Jake act out almost exactly the scenario of Duncan's uncle's suicide in that one particular Glenbrook scene... is beyond remarkable.  I can't imagine what Duncan would have had to go through emotionally to actively direct such a scene.  And, beyond the train aspect, the clock tower at the train station seems to make the analogy with Terry even more pointed.  I can't find a picture of that Glenbrook train station clock tower... but, it's something that really struck me today during my viewing.

Terry lived at a hospital called Cane Hill (which is now closed down). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cane_Hill  And, the most famous architectural detail of that building was its clock tower.  Bowie even featured a drawing of Cane Hill with its clock tower on the alternative version of the cover for the album The Man Who Sold the World, 1970 (this alternative cover was used when the official cover, showing David in a dress, was censored briefly.  These days the drawing is usually used in interior cover art work in re-issues).






And, this is an old picture of Terry from before his illness really struck.

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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
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The extreme, almost overstated optimism of the ending was interesting to me.

I thought the ending was the most "Hollywood-ized" part.  Obviously, the movie was not supposed to have a happy ending, hence the captain's closure to parts of his life and the countdown to the cut-off of life support.  The whole ending looks like something tacked on because some focus group preview audience somewhere didn't like the original downer ending.  This 'happier' ending IMO weakens the entire movie by introducing the paradox.  i.e. did he just hijack poor Sean's body?  What happened to the teacher?  The teacher is the guy Christina fell for.  It makes it kinda creepy that you could be just living your life somewhere then someone else takes over your body.

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i.e. did he just hijack poor Sean's body?  What happened to the teacher?  The teacher is the guy Christina fell for.  It makes it kinda creepy that you could be just living your life somewhere then someone else takes over your body.




I'd just say that--remember, within the logic of the movie --the teacher, Sean Fentress, Christina, and everyone on the train after the last station--are dead.

After many iterations of their utterly fatal (if sequentially repetitive) deaths, Jake's character, Capt. Colter Stevens, manages to save all these people except Fentress, but, given the logic of the movie, there is no way he can save Fentress. He might have even been trying to save Sean when he asked that, after the last 8 minute sequence, he, Colter, be killed--his own previous life was over any way. When Colter-as-Sean had his one last kiss with Christina, should he have felt sad when he found, astonishingly, that he, Colter-as-Sean, was alive in another time line after all? Quite weirdly Christ-as-Buddha selfless if he did!

Also--I'm not so sure Christina had  fallen for the real Sean Fentress prior  to the unwilling posession by the most certainly unwitting Colter Stephens. Rather, I think, Christina seems to have suddenly fallen for this 'new' Sean; in fact, at one early point, half jokingly, half admiringly, she says something like, "Who are you and how have you kidnapped Sean Fentress?" It is the new daring and desperate man that she has been learning to--love? Hard to do that in 8 minutes, I know, but--it's Jake after all, who wouldn't?

There ARE plot-holes galore, but Duncan does attempt to take a real idea from the spookily quantum notion of 'multiple worlds.' The borrowed cell-phone Colter Stephens-as-Sean-Fentress texts to the other  Vera Fermiga character in the multiple world timeline in which the train-explosion-never-happened is telling her that multiple worlds ARE real, and is pretty much explicitly saying that there is another (and another, and another) cocooned, not-quite-yet-dead Colter Stephens who may yet become a butterfly into yet another (and another) timeline.

Is it bad that Colter-as-Sean is hoping that the other (still cocooned, unconscious, utterly wounded and damaged) Colter Stephens-in-the-capsule, the NEXT Colter, will take flight to another timeline/but must take the life of another man (or woman?) like Sean Fentress in the process? Maybe, but--if multiple worlds DO exist, there are an infinite number of Sean Fentresses who died in an infinite number of explosions, and an infinite number of Sean Fentresses who completed his safe journey to Chicago, and an infinite number of Sean Fentresses who lived happily after with an infinite number of Christinas--and an infinite number of Sean Fentresses who struck out because that infinite series of Christinas finally decided all the Seans were wimps (and not the Weakly Interacting Massive Particle type either).

Anyway--I sort of liked the movie. I liked that, unlike most shoot-em up Hollywood movies, Duncan sort of wanted the largest number of people to live. I sort of liked that.

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Maybe, but--if multiple worlds DO exist, there are an infinite number of Sean Fentresses who died in an infinite number of explosions, and an infinite number of Sean Fentresses who completed his safe journey to Chicago, and an infinite number of Sean Fentresses who lived happily after with an infinite number of Christinas--and an infinite number of Sean Fentresses who struck out because that infinite series of Christinas finally decided all the Seans were wimps (and not the Weakly Interacting Massive Particle type either).

I'm not against the multiple pathways/dimension thing, but that just makes it more horrific, IMO.  There was this same argument for "Groundhog Day". The Bill Murray character wasn't reliving one life, each time he repeated, it was another life, so his previous actions in the other mornings led off on different pathways.  He DID lead that life.

So as with Colter.  He DID get run over by a train.  He DID get blown up with the train, over and over and over and over and worse, he DID get put into forced servitude as a chunk of brain-swollen meat over and over and over.

Christina though, did love the teacher.  In one line she clearly says she's been "waiting for him" to ask her for coffee "for a long time".

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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #57 on: April 17, 2011, 08:46:30 pm »



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So as with Colter.  He DID get run over by a train.  He DID get blown up with the train, over and over and over and over and worse, he DID get put into forced servitude as a chunk of brain-swollen meat over and over and over.




I saw this when I was 17 years old. It was one of the moving things I have ever seen.




Directed by Dalton Trumbo
1971
The United States of America





[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7AFmXc0wK0&feature[/youtube]




http://forgottenclassicsofyesteryear.blogspot.com/2011/02/johnny-got-his-gun.html


(....)


And yet, there is another war film that never gets mentioned anymore. It also creates one of the most haunting images in the war genre…but it doesn’t have any gore. There isn’t any swearing or graphic violence. The image is of a broken man, lying on a hospital mattress that he will never leave. He is not so much a man as a shell, trapped in a destroyed body that will be his prison for the rest of his days. This is the true face of war. This is the reality of Johnny Got His Gun.

His name was Joe Bonham…or at least it used to be. Before the war he had a family, a young sweetheart, and a full life ahead of him. Now, he is a nameless patient in an Army hospital. Ordered on one of the last days of World War One on pointless and suicidal mission (to bury the body of a dead soldier who was stinking up the trenches in the middle of No Man’s Land), Bonham was hit point-blank with an artillery shell. That lifeless hunk of metal robbed Joe of his arms, his legs, his eyes, his ears, his nose, and cruelest of all, his mouth. Unable to communicate his name and with all possible means of identification eliminated, Joe has become a nobody; a hunk of red meat perpetually trapped to drift between consciousness and his imagination.







It isn’t long before Joe can sense when people are near him. He can feel the vibrations of footsteps, the touch of nurses changing his bandages, and the cold touch of the doctors. Because of his inability to communicate, he is unable to beg for mercy when they stitch up his arms and legs, permanently transforming him into a caricature of humanity. When he twitches about to get the attention of the orderlies, he is diagnosed as suffering from a seizure and is promptly drugged back into a state of hallucinogenic stupor.






In his dreams he finds refuge and sadistic reminders of the life that he once had and the life that has been stolen. He dreams of his last night with Kareen, his girl, where they peel off their clothes and nervously crawl into bed together, both terrified and exhilarated of their first and last physical communion. He dreams of his childhood when his father tells him that it is the young man’s job to die during war. Why can’t it be the older men who start them, he asks. The father has no answer. He dreams of Jesus, shepherding a fresh batch of dead soldiers onto a train bound for God knows where. The soldiers ask why Joe is allowed on, as he is still alive. Jesus puts his hand on Joe’s shoulder, bears a grim smile, and answers that he’s okay. And in one of the film’s most devastating scenes, he dreams that Jesus is the conductor of the train, hanging out the engine window and bellowing in a cry of frustration, pain, and anguish at his task that melts into the sound of the train whistle.






After a period of sustained sensory deprivation, the brain will start to fire wildly and desperately create images and sensations to occupy itself with. So for poor Joe, who has been stripped of his senses, soon there is little to no difference between what is real and what is a figment of his imagination. The only beacon of sanity that he finds is the touch of a kindly nurse who eventually figures out that he is conscious. She removes the bandages from his chest and slowly starts to write letters with her fingers on his broken body. First an “M.” Then an “E,” followed by an “R.” Then another “R.” He slowly spells out the message: Y-C-H-R-I-S-T-M-A-S. That’s it! It’s Christmas Day! His soul swells with refrains from abandoned carols and hymns as he desperately nods what remains of his head. Merry Christmas, nurse! God bless you! God bless you!

And what’s this? Other doctors have begun to notice his movements are not random spasms! Joe starts to spell out “S-O-S” in Morse code on his pillow. Miraculously, they start to respond. One wonders what a man who has been trapped within his own body would want to say first after such an ordeal. Joe has one request: to be taken around the country in a glass case so that people will learn about the horrors of war. But no…the officer in charge can’t allow that. It would be bad for morale. People might actually think that the army isn’t as glorious as it is said to be. Joe’s request is denied. And so, Joe is left with one final option. He starts to furiously spell out “Kill me. Kill me. Kill me."

The army’s response to Joe’s desperate appeal is shocking in its cruelty. The ending is one of the most heartbreaking and enraging conclusions possible. It is a testament to the blind-headedness that plunged the world into the two worst wars in human history where false pretenses of honor and good sportsmanship by the armed elite spelled death for countless young men and women.

Johnny Got His Gun  was directed by Dalton Trumbo, a two-time Academy Award winning screenwriter and member of the Hollywood Ten, a group of film industry professionals who were blacklisted due to their refusal to testify before the House Un-American Activites Committeee (HUAC) in 1947 for supposed Communist influences. Working largely from exile, Trumbo accrued a massive body of published screenplays. His films included   (1950), Roman Holiday  (1953), The Brave One  (1956), and Spartacus  (1960). Johnny Got His Gun  was based off his own novel of the same name published in 1939. Based off the ordeal of a real life Canadian soldier, the book was a massive success, gaining the attention of left wing and anti-war circles.





Dalton Trumbo



But for all of its brilliance, Johnny Got His Gun  is not without its flaws. The film has some serious pacing issues, particularly in the second act, where the plot comes to a grinding halt in order to explore the depths of Joe’s hallucinations. Also, every now and again the audience is beset by a poor line reading that could have benefited from additional takes. Most of this can probably be explained to Trumbo’s directorial inexperience. He never quite seems to understand that in the cinema, it is more important to show, rather than merely tell. All of these criticisms can best be summarized by explaining that the film feels like Trumbo was more concerned with putting a literal translation of his book on the silver screen instead of interpreting the story in a manner that best suits the cinematic, and therefore visual, idiom.

But for its roughness, Johnny Got His Gun  is one of the most powerful anti-war films ever made. More and more these days, I find myself willingly shying away from using such absolutes as “the best ever” or “the finest example of.” Such claims seem dishonest and can suggest a lack of film-going experience. But I don’t hesitate to use such language here. Johnny Got His Gun  is a gut-wrenching, heart-breaking, and soul-shattering film. It has almost no gore or combat footage, and yet it stands tall with other anti war films like Paths of Glory  (1957) and The Deer Hunter  (1978). It forces the audience to confront the true face of war: a bandaged, bloody mess of wasted dreams, potential, and lives.

And in case you are wondering, no, they never do show what Joe looks like under his bandages. Some would ask why? I would respond, would it matter?
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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #58 on: April 17, 2011, 09:10:31 pm »
Wow, John.  Speechless. 

That looks like Donald Sutherland as....Jesus? 

I'm reminded of The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, by Julian Schnabel.  Although, that film had no obvious anti-war or political view.  Rather the depiction of one who is "locked-in". 

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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #59 on: April 17, 2011, 09:38:14 pm »




Wow, John.  Speechless.  

That looks like Donald Sutherland as....Jesus?  

I'm reminded of The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, by Julian Schnabel.  Although, that film had no obvious anti-war or political view.  Rather the depiction of one who is "locked-in".  




Yes!



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067277/

Directed by
Dalton Trumbo    
  
Writing credits
Dalton Trumbo   (novel)
Dalton Trumbo   (screenplay)
Luis Buñuel   uncredited



Cast

Timothy Bottoms ...  Joe Bonham

Kathy Fields ...  Kareen

Marsha Hunt ...  Joe's Mother

Jason Robards ...  Joe's Father

Donald Sutherland ...  Christ

Dalton Trumbo ...  Orator (as Robert Cole)

David Soul ...  Swede

Tom Tryon ...  (uncredited)


Storyline
Joe, a young American soldier, is hit by a mortar shell on the last day of World War I. He lies in a hospital bed in a fate worse than death --- a quadruple amputee who has lost his arms, legs, eyes, ears, mouth and nose. He remains conscious and able to think, thereby reliving his life through strange dreams and memories, unable to distinguish whether he is awake or dreaming. He remains frustrated by his situation, until one day when Joe discovers a unique way to communicate with his caregivers. Written by Anonymous  





Postscript:

Johnny Got His Gun  (1971)

Duncan Zowie Haywood Jones b. 30 May 1971




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(and you know who I am...)


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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #60 on: April 17, 2011, 10:29:57 pm »
Now there are two movies I really need to see!! Thanks, John.
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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #61 on: April 17, 2011, 11:47:54 pm »
FWIW, (and this is taking us a tad bit off topic)... Johnny Got His Gun was the inspiration for Metallica's really famous song called "One" and clips from the film are in the video for that song.

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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #62 on: April 24, 2011, 02:35:42 am »
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I thought the ending was the most "Hollywood-ized" part.  Obviously, the movie was not supposed to have a happy ending, hence the captain's closure to parts of his life and the countdown to the cut-off of life support.  The whole ending looks like something tacked on because some focus group preview audience somewhere didn't like the original downer ending.  This 'happier' ending IMO weakens the entire movie by introducing the paradox.  i.e. did he just hijack poor Sean's body?  What happened to the teacher?  The teacher is the guy Christina fell for.  It makes it kinda creepy that you could be just living your life somewhere then someone else takes over your body.


I really liked this movie, including the alternate universe aspect at the end. I thought it was a nice unexpected twist and kept the movie from being too cheesy. I had already expected Jake's character to somehow live on and fall in love blah blah blah, but the moment Vera's character got the txt my brain did some twists and turns to sort everything out. I love it when movies, or books, make me stop and think. Plus I've been fascinated by the idea of parallel universes since the first time I saw Donnie Darko.  :o :o
I also thought Jake was excellent. A very underrated film.


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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #63 on: April 25, 2011, 05:09:42 am »
   
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   I agree with everything Kay says.  I like to have thought provoking movies and books.
Brokeback mountain was one of those for sure.  We will never have the definitive answer to what happened to Jack.  We all have our opinions, but we don't know for sure.
  I liked this movie the best of anything Jake has done since BBM.  Including his own
war hero movie.  He is always good in all of what he does.  The only problem with
Zodiac was the lack of cohesive answers.  It is a thing that some directors do, in order
to as Proulx says, make it your own.  I liked it a great deal.  It was the very lack of
answers that makes it more interesting to me.  As in Donnie Darko, that is part of the
appeal.  Leave them wanting more.  Do not answer every tiny question.  It makes you think for yourself.  After all is life giving you all the answers to everything you encounter?  I for one will buy it and watch it over again for a long time to come.  It is a movie that will lend itself to that very well.
  The fast pace, and the manditory time span, makes you look fast, and try to catch more than you can possibly see.  In each section you try and pick up more of the clues to the whole reason, and the outcome.



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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #64 on: July 03, 2011, 12:25:48 am »
A little trivia:  Vera Farmiga has acted both with Jake and with Heath.  She was in "Roar", playing Caitlin to Heath's Conor, in the Australian TV series from the '90s.


Watched a little movie tonight with my mom, Autumn in New York, because I was a little homesick for New York...and was delighted to see Vera appear in it, as Richard Gere's daughter, of all things! The movie was a lot like Love and Other Drugs, actually. I thought Jake was better in the male role, while I liked Wynona Ryder better than Anne (sorry!) in the sick beautiful young female role. Vera was luminous!!
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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes
« Reply #65 on: July 15, 2011, 10:28:46 am »
I liked Wynona Ryder better than Anne (sorry!) in the sick beautiful young female role.

I haven't seen Autumn in New York, but I'm with you on Anne. I didn't think she was very convincing in that role. It's funny; I totally bought her as a middle-aged bleached blonde, but not as an artist with a degenerative disease.


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Re: Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: The First Five Minutes: SPOILERS
« Reply #66 on: August 06, 2011, 10:50:26 pm »
In honor of this movie opening in Sweden today, I rented it! I enjoyed it!

The extreme, almost overstated optimism of the ending was interesting to me.  Duncan borrows so much from his Dad's symbolic world (which is extremely well-developed and nuanced after all these decades... Bowie almost has his own language of symbols that recur in his lyrics, performance and imagery).  But, this very insistent optimism is something a bit different.  And, good for Duncan for that.

Moon also had an optimistic ending. The dystopia is presented, and there is one person who triumphs over it, with the help of a sympathetic female/computer. It's not what I'm used to seeing in such movies, but it's refreshing!

The scene at the Glenbrook train station in the middle of the film still has me very shaken.  Honestly, it's a very brave thing to confront the train subject at all, IMO.  Certainly Duncan has taken on a huge family tragedy in not even close to subtle terms, and then blended it again with something like "Major Tom"-esque episodes (stuck in a capsule, etc.).  ...
To have Jake act out almost exactly the scenario of Duncan's uncle's suicide in that one particular Glenbrook scene... is beyond remarkable.  I can't imagine what Duncan would have had to go through emotionally to actively direct such a scene.  

Perhaps he found it therapeutic. The genius thing is that he took a very personal incident from his life and told a story that every viewer could identify with. Now that's impressive.

And, this is an old picture of Terry from before his illness really struck.


Wow, that looks like Shaun Fentress, the guy whose body Jake's character inhabits!!
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Jake Gyllenhaal's Source Code: BUMP THREAD for Amanda's Bowie Info (2011)
« Reply #67 on: January 16, 2016, 11:02:29 pm »


BUMP THREAD for Amanda's amazing Bowie info in 2011.

(And--is it really more than four years ago??)
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