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Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« on: November 19, 2006, 07:18:09 pm »
1.  The stunt work, especially in the construction site scene, is amazing.

2.  Daniel Craig's smokin' hot body and the kind of blue eyes you can see across a room

3.  It seems to take the Bond franchise in a darker, more vigilante (I likey) direction.

4.  A little matter of a trailer from a certain movie being released this March.  (i.e., Jakey on the big screen again, and not one moment too soon - by the way, everyone in the packed theater chuckled at "Eagle Scout.  First Class."  And everyone around me murmured "That looks good" when it was over.  I'm a tad biased, so it's hard for me to judge.)

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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2006, 08:38:55 pm »
Me like Daniel Craig!  And I worship Judy Dench ..  ;D... So I'll go see the movie ..


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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2006, 09:47:05 pm »
I will definitely see this one (especially for the Zodiac trailer...  ::) )

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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2006, 09:56:02 pm »
I'm a bit hesitant.  I heard from someone who has already seen it that they are basing the movie more on Ian Fleming's stories, Bond isn't the cinematic Bond we all know and love (shaken, not stirred).  I understand they want to humanize Bond, to show growth by essentially starting over, but the whole point to James Bond was that he was above and beyond what mere mortals could do.

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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2006, 01:40:13 am »
I will definitely see this one (especially for the Zodiac trailer...  ::) )
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2006, 10:04:14 am »
I'm a bit hesitant.  I heard from someone who has already seen it that they are basing the movie more on Ian Fleming's stories, Bond isn't the cinematic Bond we all know and love (shaken, not stirred).  I understand they want to humanize Bond, to show growth by essentially starting over, but the whole point to James Bond was that he was above and beyond what mere mortals could do.

I understand that.  And I think it's the reason I like it better than all the others (except maybe for the Sean Connery ones - yeow).

You still believe he is above and beyond what mere mortals can do, and that's chiefly because Daniel Craig was the perfect selection to both humanize him and show how super-human he is.  The guy moves like an Olympic sprinter - maybe even more elegantly.  You really believe he can catch what should be a faster man or a moving vehicle just by running.  And he's buff enough to make you believe he has super-human strength, too.

I liked seeing how he got his first Astin Martin and how he came to like his martinis.  Maybe I'm all about demythologizing icons, I dunno.  But it didn't take too much away from the idea that he's extraordinary.

It actually came closer than I've ever seen to humanizing M, too.  If you don't want to see just a glimpse of a softer side to her, you might want to steer clear.
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2006, 04:20:36 pm »
I'll see it over the Thanksgiving weekend when I'm visiting family. I'm sure it will be showing there and it will give me something to do.  ;)   What glamorous cities/locations does Casino Royale take place? 

The Jake movie trailer makes the film sound worthwhile.  So now we know Jake's character in ZODIAC is a cartoonist who was an Eagle scout member. Okay!

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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2006, 05:14:50 pm »
I'll see it over the Thanksgiving weekend when I'm visiting family. I'm sure it will be showing there and it will give me something to do.  ;)   What glamorous cities/locations does Casino Royale take place? 

The Jake movie trailer makes the film sound worthwhile.  So now we know Jake's character in ZODIAC is a cartoonist who was an Eagle scout member. Okay!

Actually, an Eagle Scout is a member of The Boy Scouts of America - it's the highest rank you can attain within the Boy Scouts.  A First Class Eagle Scout is the highest rank you can attain within the Eagle Scouts - it's kinda synonymous with being a four-star General in a much lesser way.  (My husband and brothers were all Boy Scouts who aspired to Eagle Scout status but didn't quite make it there.)

If you want to know more about Jake's character, Robert Graysmith, he really exists, or at least used to (I think he's still alive).  He wrote a book called Zodiac upon which the movie is based.  Here's a link to a blurb about the book at Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Zodiac-Robert-Graysmith/dp/0425098087/sr=8-1/qid=1164057048/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-9360303-7900854?ie=UTF8&s=books

Below is what I know about Robert Graysmith, but it may contain SPOILERS, so skip it if you don't want to know too much about the movie going into it:

























SPOILERS:

I know basically that he was a (political?) cartoonist for the San Francisco Chronicle and somehow got interested in the Zodiac killer case - I think when the guy (or a copy cat) started sending stuff to the paper - and another book of his postulates who the killer really was: a guy who knew the first victim and who was questioned by police but  never charged with the crimes.
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2006, 07:45:46 pm »
I understand that.  And I think it's the reason I like it better than all the others (except maybe for the Sean Connery ones - yeow).

You still believe he is above and beyond what mere mortals can do, and that's chiefly because Daniel Craig was the perfect selection to both humanize him and show how super-human he is.  The guy moves like an Olympic sprinter - maybe even more elegantly.  You really believe he can catch what should be a faster man or a moving vehicle just by running.  And he's buff enough to make you believe he has super-human strength, too.

Oh gods, yes!!  When the announcement was made as to who the new Bond was, the women around my cubical were like 'Who's that?'  And I replied, 'Did you see 'Lara Croft - Tomb Raider?'  You remember the naked guy?  That's him.'

The women all went 'Oh.'  It's ok then.  ;D

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I liked seeing how he got his first Astin Martin and how he came to like his martinis.  Maybe I'm all about demythologizing icons, I dunno.  But it didn't take too much away from the idea that he's extraordinary.

It actually came closer than I've ever seen to humanizing M, too.  If you don't want to see just a glimpse of a softer side to her, you might want to steer clear.

Is the above true, Barb?!?!?!?!?  I replied to my friend that it was going to be disappointing if he wasn't the same Bond, but if they were going to show how he became the Bond we all know and love, then that would be lots of fun!  Is this the case?!?!  If so, then I'm first in line!!!

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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2006, 07:53:51 pm »
Yes, it is absolutely true.  Think of it as "Bond Begins."  :)
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2006, 07:56:37 pm »
Yes, it is absolutely true.  Think of it as "Bond Begins."  :)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  Yay!!!! [does a little dance untl the ankle she injured falling on her face in the middle of the mall yesterday gives way...]
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2006, 02:21:36 pm »


I havent been to the theatre in months, and finally today ..
I am going to go check out Casino Royale!    :D

Daniel Craig, HERE I COME!!





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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2006, 01:39:39 am »
I finally got to see the New Bond tonight!
Woowee!  :D

I LOVE him!  I am gonna go watch it again in the weekend!  :P 
Definitely, definitely very cool movie!
Daniel C. could be my best Bond ever!  8)

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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2006, 11:09:27 am »
Ooh - glad you loved it so much!

Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I enjoyed it, too.  I like how he's more ruthless and has a certain meanness to him like Ian Fleming wrote him - the only other one that even hints properly at that is Sean Connery's incarnation, I think.  Daniel Craig and the writing on this one make him almost a rogue vigilante, really.  I likey.  I likey muchy.
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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2006, 04:57:48 pm »
Ooh - glad you loved it so much!

Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I enjoyed it, too.  I like how he's more ruthless and has a certain meanness to him like Ian Fleming wrote him - the only other one that even hints properly at that is Sean Connery's incarnation, I think.  Daniel Craig and the writing on this one make him almost a rogue vigilante, really.  I likey.  I likey muchy.

I echo your sentiments Barb!
This new Bond is dark and scarier, in a downright sexy way!  D. Craig has the perfect looks to go with it too .. and I must say that I didn't mind the shots of his bare chest at all!  Infact, there weren't enough of them!  8)

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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2006, 11:52:44 am »
Saw Casino Royale yesterday.

1.) The Black stuntman in the opening sequence - Un-fricking-believable!  Danile Craig - great but you couldn't take your eyes off this other guy (didn't catch his name).

2.) O M G !!!!!  Just not fair! 

3.) Hmmmmm - loved Bond.  Did NOT buy the love relationship (don't want to provide any spoilers) - Not at all...sorry.

4.) Jake.  Yes.  But No.  I didn't get the rush I got (get) from seeing him in Brokeback.  He looks (don't hit) plain.

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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2006, 01:36:12 pm »
Oh well, I will probably see it today.  I always think Bond movies are incredibly formulistic, but there's not alot out there I wanta see today.

I saw Darren Aronofsky's THE FOUNTAIN on Wed.  Visually interesting, but very disconnected. I still don't know what I saw and it seemed a missed opportunity on the subject of immortality.  Hugh Jackman kept his clothes on :( . No trailer for ZODIAC in that film.

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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2006, 02:06:44 pm »
I am sold on BOND! 
So much so I am going to see it again tomorrow!   :P
And D. Craig definitely puts some lead in my pencil .. lol..(if I had a pencil ..)


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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2006, 02:12:46 pm »
Saw Casino Royale yesterday.

1.) The Black stuntman in the opening sequence - Un-fricking-believable!  Danile Craig - great but you couldn't take your eyes off this other guy (didn't catch his name).


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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2006, 03:42:15 pm »
Saw Casino Royale yesterday.

1.) The Black stuntman in the opening sequence - Un-fricking-believable!  Danile Craig - great but you couldn't take your eyes off this other guy (didn't catch his name).

2.) O M G !!!!!  Just not fair! 

3.) Hmmmmm - loved Bond.  Did NOT buy the love relationship (don't want to provide any spoilers) - Not at all...sorry.

4.) Jake.  Yes.  But No.  I didn't get the rush I got (get) from seeing him in Brokeback.  He looks (don't hit) plain.

I would never hit you.  And believe it or not, I agree with all your sentiments.  Especially #3 - I found the relationship tacked on and unnecessary, and though I understood the intention of including it, I thought it did nothing to move the narrative forward and it fact probably the only flaw in an otherwise perfect movie.

And yes, I still see Jack as existing separately from Jake.  And as much as I adore the latter, I see little bits of him in all of his performances - more in some than in others - but I see only Jack in that one.
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2006, 04:49:51 pm »
Lucise -

Thanks much.  My son was equally awed.  That sequence is virtually worth the cost of admission!

Hey Barb - Too bad we live so far apart - we'd make great movie buddies!  And yes, Jack IS (as is Ennis) a separate being.  I can't believe that they can both still bring tears to my eyes.
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2006, 08:55:52 pm »
Oh well, I will probably see it today.  I always think Bond movies are incredibly formulistic, but there's not alot out there I wanta see today.

that's the thing about Casino Royale. It broke away from those formulas. They've done away with the gadgets, the "Bond Girls" with sexual names, the sexual innuendos. Instead, they've focused on character development, story and good writing. I really enjoyed the writing. The interchange between Bond and M in M's house, and the verbal sparring between Bond and Vesper on the train were just as entertaining as the action sequences, imo.

Especially #3 - I found the relationship tacked on and unnecessary, and though I understood the intention of including it, I thought it did nothing to move the narrative forward and it fact probably the only flaw in an otherwise perfect movie.

I half agree with you. You're right, they didn't exactly made it as convincing as they could, but I do think it is very much part of his character development as well as the plot. But yeah, that last half hour sort of dragged on a bit, didn't it?

and yeah, D Craig is very sexy. mm, those shoulders.
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2006, 09:30:27 pm »
Couldn't agree with you more, Nipith, on all counts.  Yes, it's the last half hour that felt tacked-on.  But I also thoroughly enjoyed the verbal sparring between James and Vesper on the train.

Cheers to character development!  What a concept!  :)

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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2006, 09:34:07 pm »
I'm inclined to go and see it just because the people who want us to boycott it seem to be such idiots.

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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2006, 09:35:59 pm »
Who wants us to boycott it?

<--- has been out of the loop, apparently
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2006, 09:49:59 pm »
Yes, please advise. I didn't see anything controversial about the film or why anyone would boycott it.  ???

The film did have more depth to it then any James Bond movie I've seen recently.  B/W in a Bond movie! They like to use Venice in Bond movies now don't they.  Guess it's popular with the Britts or something.

D. Craig is the best looking Bond I've seen. Great body.  He must have really gotten pumped up for this film. And yes, I noticed no new gadgets.

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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2006, 11:47:08 pm »
As I recall, die-hard fans of Bond didn't think Daniel Craig fit the Bond 'mold' & intended to boycott any Bond film w/ him in it.

The sparing on the train was indeed great - but I failed to see where the relationship expanded to the point that Bond would do as he did (hmmmmm, how to get your point across without stating your point...)  Just trying to avoid spoiling anything.
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2006, 09:33:21 am »
I agree, LJ.  I didn't get that at all, either.

And I agree also that those people are idiots.  Especially considering that pretty much all I've heard and read on the subject says that this Bond is the truest of all to Ian Fleming's books.  That he was almost a rogue vigilante and that there was a certain meanness to him.  I don't know how Fleming described him physically, but I don't think it matters so much as the characterization.

In short (too late) this is the first and only Bond I'm interested in seeing more of.  For what that's worth, he can't suck too badly.
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2006, 01:11:25 pm »
And don't ya just love that we have Bond walking out of the ocean like that?!   ;)

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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2006, 03:21:26 pm »
I saw Casino Royale last night, man what a ride! That story had so many twists and turns that when I was thinking about it later some of the early characters seemed like they were in another movie.

Daniel Craig is hot, and I think he will go on to be one of the best James Bonds ever. I may go back and see it again. 
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #30 on: November 26, 2006, 05:11:30 pm »
OK, everyone talked me into it and I went and saw it.

Verdict?  It was OK.  Love Craig, he plays thuggish quite well and cleans up nicely.

IMO, it was overlong and could have ended 20 minutes before it did.  His interaction with women could have been done away with, everyone knows how they end up (I believe I can say that without giving anything away).  Don't know about everyone else, but we saw the last twist coming.

1.  The stunt work, especially in the construction site scene, is amazing.

One of the over-the-top scenes that harken to the current James Bond image.  Who the heck was James Bond chasing?  Some ex-Navy Seal or Airborne Ranger?  The guy was utterly fearless, invincible and never broke his stride.

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2.  Daniel Craig's smokin' hot body and the kind of blue eyes you can see across a room

Lovely.  A friend of mine however, said he was too short to be a James Bond.  I thought the guy was tall.  He seemed tall to me in both Casino and Lara Croft.  Angelina Jolie is not a short woman and he towered over her in Lara Croft.  Is it just special effects?   ??? ???

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3.  It seems to take the Bond franchise in a darker, more vigilante (I likey) direction.

Very much more realistic, well, except for roof top chases, holding his breath longer than the late Jacques Cousteau and what kind of upscale car does not have airbags?!?!?!?

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4.  A little matter of a trailer from a certain movie being released this March.  (i.e., Jakey on the big screen again, and not one moment too soon - by the way, everyone in the packed theater chuckled at "Eagle Scout.  First Class."  And everyone around me murmured "That looks good" when it was over.  I'm a tad biased, so it's hard for me to judge.)

Everyone in my group gave a thumbs up to going to see it.  I'm not sure what kind of character Jake is playing but his little boy voice was very endearing.  My protective instincts reared up.

EDITED TO ADD:  OK the tuxedo scene was a gem.
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2006, 05:17:59 pm »
And don't ya just love that we have Bond walking out of the ocean like that?!   ;)

'Bout time!

oh yeah. it's right up there with the shot of Ursula Andres in her bikini. Come to think of it, Casino Royale has more views of man flesh than women's. Not quite making up for all the past films, but it's a good start.
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #32 on: November 26, 2006, 05:21:25 pm »
oh yeah. it's right up there with the shot of Ursula Andres in her bikini. Come to think of it, Casino Royale has more views of man flesh than women's.

Ooh, yes they did, didn't they?  Even the beginning credit roll lacked the standard naked women lolling around.

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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2006, 12:08:15 am »
Okay, one person I've talked to said that he thought Daniel Craig played Bond like an assasin/ hit-man (Collateral) as oppose to a Secret agent.  I guess he thinks secret agents should be more debonair and their faces shouldn't look all roughed up.  Course he likes Roger Moore and Pierce Brosnan.  ;) 


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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2006, 12:16:50 am »
Okay, one person I've talked to said that he thought Daniel Craig played Bond like an assasin/ hit-man (Collateral) as oppose to a Secret agent.  I guess he thinks secret agents should be more debonair and their faces shouldn't look all roughed up.  Course he likes Roger Moore and Pierce Brosnan.  ;)

Which points up the exact reason I don't like "classic" James Bond movies.  But I liked this one.  Go figure.
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2006, 02:26:33 pm »
oh yeah. it's right up there with the shot of Ursula Andres in her bikini. Come to think of it, Casino Royale has more views of man flesh than women's. Not quite making up for all the past films, but it's a good start.

I wish there was MORE manflesh in it!   ;D 


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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2006, 02:31:29 pm »
And about Bond being thug-like ..

Didn't Ian Fleming write Bond like that to begin with?  He was supposed to be a dark, no-nonsense type who has no qualms killing .. And this Bond was PURRFECT for that .. 



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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2006, 02:33:23 pm »
I'm inclined to go and see it just because the people who want us to boycott it seem to be such idiots.

And, well...



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His eyes blow me away, but the bod aint bad at all.

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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2006, 04:43:16 pm »
Ah, yes, those eyes...  That song "Electric Blue" comes to mind...

"Are you hiding somewhere behind those eyes?"

I remember when word first came out that Daniel Craig was going to be the new Bond.  I thought, "Cool!  Maybe I'll actually go see one of those movies!"  People pooh-poohed the choice and I said, "I take it you haven't seen "Layer Cake."  (BTW, RUN, don't walk, to your nearest Ballbuster and rent that sucker STAT - "sexy" doesn't even begin to cover it.)  And they'd say, "No.  Why?  Good?"  And I'd say "I remember liking it, but mostly I remember those eyes."

Yep.  He'll do just fine.  When does the next one come out?  ;)

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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2006, 04:49:20 pm »
Ah, yes, those eyes...  That song "Electric Blue" comes to mind...

"Are you hiding somewhere behind those eyes?"

I remember when word first came out that Daniel Craig was going to be the new Bond.  I thought, "Cool!  Maybe I'll actually go see one of those movies!"  People pooh-poohed the choice and I said, "I take it you haven't seen "Layer Cake."  (BTW, RUN, don't walk, to your nearest Ballbuster and rent that sucker STAT - "sexy" doesn't even begin to cover it.)  And they'd say, "No.  Why?  Good?"  And I'd say "I remember liking it, but mostly I remember those eyes."

Yep.  He'll do just fine.  When does the next one come out?  ;)

Oh, I am so gonna rent Layer Cake in the very near future!  :D

People were skeptical about D. Craig's ability to pull off Bond .. that and "he's not tall enough" .. or .. "he's blonde" yadi yada .. I hope they all get a chance to check out this movie .. I think he has staying power!   8)

The next Bond comes out in 2008 or something like that!  I can't wait that long!!!  >:( :-\


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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #41 on: November 27, 2006, 05:08:04 pm »
Oh, MY.  And here I thought Ann Coulter fans were the most deeply disturbed people on the planet.  Move over, neocons - there's a new sherriff in town!
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« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2006, 05:12:25 pm »
These people.

OMG they are obsessed with him!  And I thought I had an obsession .. lol ..
But then again, some people can't stand any form of change ..



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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #43 on: November 27, 2006, 05:15:35 pm »
People were skeptical about D. Craig's ability to pull off Bond .. that and "he's not tall enough"

how tall is Craig anyhow? and I don't think Brosnan was all that tall either.
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #44 on: November 27, 2006, 05:16:33 pm »
how tall is Craig anyhow? and I don't think Brosnan was all that tall either.

5' 11",  I guess..


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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #45 on: November 27, 2006, 05:16:45 pm »
My My. Can't those people just live and let live, no one is making them go see it.
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #46 on: November 27, 2006, 05:39:07 pm »
btw, did any one see D Craig in Infamouse (http://imdb.com/title/tt0420609/). I'm not sure I could take another movie about Capote, but this one is suppose to be superior. It did go down a different path, taking the relationship between Capote and Perry (played by Criag) toward a romantic one.
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #47 on: November 27, 2006, 05:45:45 pm »
5' 11",  I guess..

hrm, that's taller than the average American (5'8") so he's tall by most standards.
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #48 on: November 27, 2006, 05:51:24 pm »
let me gush a bit more about this movie. As a graphic designer, I love title sequence design when they're done well. The Bond films are usually extravagant with their title designs. I have to say, this one is the best I've seen of the Bond films. It's beautifully conceptualized and visually complex. Yet another way they broke away from the formula is that they didn't use naked women to hold your attention. If they still gave away Oscars for title designs, this would be nominated for sure.
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #49 on: November 27, 2006, 06:54:36 pm »
let me gush a bit more about this movie. As a graphic designer, I love title sequence design when they're done well. The Bond films are usually extravagant with their title designs. I have to say, this one is the best I've seen of the Bond films. It's beautifully conceptualized and visually complex. Yet another way they broke away from the formula is that they didn't use naked women to hold your attention. If they still gave away Oscars for title designs, this would be nominated for sure.

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..and I have been singing that song "you know my name" all friggin day! 


Written and performed by Chris Cornell, I believe..

You know  my name ..

If you take a life do you know what you'll give?
Odds are, you won't like what it is
When the storm arrives, would you be seen with me?
By the merciless eyes of deceit?

I've seen angels fall from blinding heights
But you yourself are nothing so divine
Just next in line

Arm yourself because no-one else here will save you
The odds will betray you
And I will replace you
You can't deny the prize it may never fulfill you
It longs to kill you
Are you willing to die?

The coldest blood runs through my veins
You know my name

If you come inside things will not be the same
When you return to the night
And if you think you've won
You never saw me change
The game that we all been playing

I've seen diamonds cut through harder men
Than you yourself
But if you must pretend
You may meet your end

Arm yourself because no-one else here will save you
The odds will betray you
And I will replace you
You can't deny the prize it may never fulfill you
It longs to kill you
Are you willing to die?

The coldest blood runs through my veins

Try to hide your hand
Forget how to feel
Forget how to feel

Life is gone with just a spin of the wheel
Spin of the wheel

Arm yourself because no-one else here will save you
The odds will betray you
And I will replace you
You can't deny the prize it may never fulfill you
It longs to kill you
Are you willing to die?

The coldest blood runs through my veins
You know my name
You know my name
You know my name
You know my name
You know my name
You know my name
You know my name


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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #50 on: November 27, 2006, 08:56:32 pm »
btw, did any one see D Craig in Infamouse (http://imdb.com/title/tt0420609/). I'm not sure I could take another movie about Capote, but this one is suppose to be superior. It did go down a different path, taking the relationship between Capote and Perry (played by Criag) toward a romantic one.

Ooh!  Pick me!  Pick me!  I saw it.  I don't know that I'd say it was superior to "Capote," but it was as good or nearly as good in different ways.  For one, it delved quite a bit more into Perry's character.  And Harper Lee's.  And as much as I still hold "Crash" against her, Sandra Bullock was really wonderful as the latter.  Totally believable in the part, and I don't think all that much of her acting one way or the other usually.  I mean, she's OK, but she always seems to be just being herself.  Not this time.  Not at all.

Daniel Craig is virtually unrecognizable as Perry.  He wears dark brown contact lenses, and lemme tell ya, obscuring the color and light in those eyes makes him a completely different looking person.  Not unattractive - but just not - Daniel Craig.  He does a very good American accent, too - probably the most flawless I've heard from anyone across the pond.

And you're right, Nipith - it's definitely a more romantic angle this time than was taken in "Capote" which makes it all the more disturbing, to me, how much so Capote really uses him to get his story.
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #51 on: November 27, 2006, 09:36:31 pm »
Ooh!  Pick me!  Pick me!  I saw it.  I don't know that I'd say it was superior to "Capote," but it was as good or nearly as good in different ways.  For one, it delved quite a bit more into Perry's character.  And Harper Lee's.  And as much as I still hold "Crash" against her, Sandra Bullock was really wonderful as the latter.  Totally believable in the part, and I don't think all that much of her acting one way or the other usually.  I mean, she's OK, but she always seems to be just being herself.  Not this time.  Not at all.

When did it open in North America?


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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #52 on: November 27, 2006, 09:39:28 pm »
When did it open in North America?

Oh, geez, lemme see...  I remember I had to drive a little bit to the arthouse theater to see it, and it was in its last week at the time.  I think it was in late September/early October.  It never opened "wide" - if it had, it would have played in the 20-theater conglomeration/abomination in the center of town.  It never did.  Too bad.  I think an awful lot of folks missed a really good movie and some tremendous performances.
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« Reply #53 on: November 27, 2006, 09:46:01 pm »
Cheers Barb!

I wonder why it didn't open wide ..  I don't even remember seeing it playing in my local theatre!
I guess I'll be waiting for the DVD!


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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2006, 03:34:42 pm »
Do the Bumpity bump ..




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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #55 on: December 05, 2006, 03:35:54 pm »
Just Because I like looking at his eyes ..   8)





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« Reply #56 on: December 05, 2006, 05:17:47 pm »
WARNING! Spoilers


OK  I finally went and saw it today.     It was good.   Not spectacular, but good.

Definately noticed how the opening credits didn't have the usual naked ladies in it.   That was refreshing.

Footchase/construction site scene was excellent.

Did notice the authentic TSA uniforms in the Airport scene, but the screening proceedures were all wrong.    They would have ran that guys keys thru the Xray and seen the Improvised explosive device.   

Special effects were excellent thru out the film.   

As usual, the film was set in beautiful locations.    I loved the big Villa at the very end of the movie.   Or was that a castle?   It was huge.   And lake side, thats always a nice touch.

The Poker game went too long.

The ending was predictable.  You know that James may get the girl, but he never gets to keep them. 

Oh yeah,  the bad guy was creepy, but his death was too quick and painless. 

And how the heck could Bond have had sex so quickly after that torture?    I'm still squirming after that.

Overall a good film.   It did seem kinda long though.

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« Reply #57 on: December 05, 2006, 06:04:10 pm »
Do the Bumpity bump ..



That's not all I'd like to do with him, but it's a good start... 
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« Reply #58 on: December 05, 2006, 06:32:27 pm »
That's not all I'd like to do with him, but it's a good start... 

 Bumping not enough for you eh, Barb? !   ;D


Fine, here's another shameless .. bump and grind ..   8)

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« Reply #59 on: December 05, 2006, 06:48:57 pm »
The dude with the tear-duct malfunction problem!    :P




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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #60 on: December 05, 2006, 07:30:46 pm »
Just because the "Bond Girls" are stunners too!

(No, I am not obsessed, no way... I SAID NO WAY!  ::) 8) )






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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #61 on: December 06, 2006, 12:21:39 am »
Just because the "Bond Girls" are stunners too!

I thought they were very attractive too.  The first girl has that Charlotte Rampling sleepy-eye thing that is really hot, but in the movie, she wore make-up like she didn't know how.  Like a little girl playing with her mom's makeup kit.

The other girl is a Penelope Cruz look-alike whose looks just makes you squirm and wonder where do they find these women?





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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #62 on: December 06, 2006, 02:23:09 am »
WARNING! Spoilers


OK  I finally went and saw it today.     It was good.   Not spectacular, but good.

Definately noticed how the opening credits didn't have the usual naked ladies in it.   That was refreshing.

Footchase/construction site scene was excellent.

Did notice the authentic TSA uniforms in the Airport scene, but the screening proceedures were all wrong.    They would have ran that guys keys thru the Xray and seen the Improvised explosive device.   

Special effects were excellent thru out the film.   

As usual, the film was set in beautiful locations.    I loved the big Villa at the very end of the movie.   Or was that a castle?   It was huge.   And lake side, thats always a nice touch.

The Poker game went too long.

The ending was predictable.  You know that James may get the girl, but he never gets to keep them. 

Oh yeah,  the bad guy was creepy, but his death was too quick and painless. 

And how the heck could Bond have had sex so quickly after that torture?    I'm still squirming after that.

Overall a good film.   It did seem kinda long though.

I agree. I never understood why people enjoy watching poker games on ESPN or whatever. I thought it went on a bit too long.

and didn't any one expect that guy's eye to have some function, plot wise? Like it held a secret to his being so good at poker or something. I guess I was still expecting him to be like the old Bond villains, to have distinguishing characteristic that are deadly.
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #63 on: December 06, 2006, 02:28:57 am »
I agree. I never understood why people enjoy watching poker games on ESPN or whatever. I thought it went on a bit too long.

and didn't any one expect that guy's eye to have some function, plot wise? Like it held a secret to his being so good at poker or something. I guess I was still expecting him to be like the old Bond villains, to have distinguishing characteristic that are deadly.


 .. Le Chiffre said it very clearly in the beginning .. "It is merely a derangement of the tear duct, nothing sinister" .. I guess he meant it!  ;D
I for one was pleased that some of the old Bond villain cliches were left behind for this new CR Bond ..lol


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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #64 on: December 06, 2006, 07:21:58 pm »
I thought they were very attractive too.  The first girl has that Charlotte Rampling sleepy-eye thing that is really hot, but in the movie, she wore make-up like she didn't know how.  Like a little girl playing with her mom's makeup kit.

The other girl is a Penelope Cruz look-alike whose looks just makes you squirm and wonder where do they find these women?
Well, Eva Green is actually quite well known in France. She has a famous mother, so that helps.

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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #65 on: December 06, 2006, 07:35:14 pm »
I kinda missed the old Bond gadgets and clever sarcasm.    Sean Connery had that great way of delivering the corniest of one liners, but they worked.

And yes,  I kinda though the bad guy had a bionic eye or something. LOL

And don't tell me that the first thug in the Bahamas didn't look like a bad version of Michael Richards.  (Kramer from Seinfeld!)

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« Reply #66 on: December 06, 2006, 07:37:50 pm »

And don't tell me that the first thug in the Bahamas didn't look like a bad version of Michael Richards.  (Kramer from Seinfeld!)

 ;D You are right! 


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« Reply #67 on: December 06, 2006, 07:40:50 pm »

Yeah baby!   8)





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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #68 on: December 06, 2006, 07:42:49 pm »
Ooh, yes they did, didn't they?  Even the beginning credit roll lacked the standard naked women lolling around.
Very true. Noticed it too right away and prefer it! I liked th beginning credits a lot actually. Loved the design.

Yeah, and what was that thing about the super modern car and no airbags? A goof?

Anyway, I liked "Casino Royale" a lot! I can't say I'm a huge Bond fan, but I think I've seen all Pierce Brosnan Bonds in the theatre (but never again on TV) and two or three of the Moore and Connery ones.. But when Daniel Craig was announced to be the next James Bond, I knew I would never NOT go to see that movie!! I did know about Craig and liked him well before the Bond announcement, but it did trigger my curiosity and I made sure to seen a few of his pre-Bond films. It confirmed that Craig is an amazing actor!

About "Casino Royale" - true, there were some scenes dragging a bit, but the 144' minutes didn't seem to long at all! I liked the fact that there were almost no gadgets (not that I dislike them, but I didn't miss them either). Beautiful locations, yes! I didn't mind the longish Poker scenes. And yes, I agree with whoever said they didn't buy into the Vesper-James relationship. There was something very artificial about it, though I liked the shower scene! Very moving! Le Chiffre just excellent as the villain and Judi Dench - perfect! Love her. Adore her!

Can't wait to see more of Jeffrey Wright (in the next Bond or elsewhere!). There are rumors that "Bond 22" (2008) will include some gay scenes and somewhere I read that Jeffrey Wright's character will be Bond's love interest... ?! In any case, I'm not against any gay scenes in the next Bond film. It would explain the lacking 'lolling-around women' in the opening credits.. And there was some homoeroticism running around between Bond and Le Chiffre, you can't deny that!!  :P

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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #69 on: December 06, 2006, 07:53:01 pm »

Can't wait to see more of Jeffrey Wright (in the next Bond or elsewhere!). There are rumors that "Bond 22" (2008) will include some gay scenes and somewhere I read that Jeffrey Wright's character will be Bond's love interest... ?! In any case, I'm not against any gay scenes in the next Bond film. It would explain the lacking 'lolling-around women' in the opening credits.. And there was some homoeroticism running around between Bond and Le Chiffre, you can't deny that!!  :P

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Yeah .. I heard the rumours too ..


Here is what wikipedia says about the next Bond movie..


Broccoli also confirmed that Bond 22 would be a continuation of Casino Royale. Daniel Craig may have hinted at the direction of Bond 22 when he stated that the events of Casino Royale would lead Bond to "go out for revenge." [4] Craig also implied this during an interview on Parkinson on 2 December 2006. If true, Bond 22 would be the first true 007 sequel ..

Another protagonist possibly returning is Eva Green's character, Vesper Lynd, as there are rumours that she may appear in a flashback/video scene.[6] [7] There is also much speculation, that Jesper Christensen's Mr White will appear in this film. In the final scene of Casino Royale, Bond confronts White in a remote location and wounds him in the knee before confronting him. It is unknown what action Bond took afterward. If White survives and returns, he would be the first villain to feature in more than one EON Productions film since Jaws. Additionally, it is also possible that Rene Mathis could make a return considering his true loyalty and fate is unknown by the end of Casino Royale.

According to Daniel Craig, Bond 22 will be about going after "the threat behind the threat", a direct quote from the final chapter in Fleming's Casino Royale.



So at least these are things we know for sure!  :)


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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #70 on: December 06, 2006, 07:58:56 pm »
Jeffrey Wright?    That was the Felix Lighter Character right?

The last movie I saw him in was the remake of Shaft.   He was a drug lord in that one.

No, I can't see a gay-bi theme in the next Bond movie.    It just wont happen.

As for Le Chiffre, you are correct, there was some sexual tension on his part.

I did like the intro with the card effects instead of flying naked ladies.

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« Reply #71 on: December 06, 2006, 08:44:01 pm »
Jeffrey Wright?    That was the Felix Lighter Character right?
The last movie I saw him in was the remake of Shaft.   He was a drug lord in that one.

No, I can't see a gay-bi theme in the next Bond movie.    It just wont happen.

Yeah, same here.


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I did like the intro with the card effects instead of flying naked ladies.

Definitely!!   ;D


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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #72 on: December 06, 2006, 10:20:38 pm »
I heard on E! TV that Daniel Craig said he wouldn't mind if the new Bond went homo-erotic with some characters.  After all, he said (or maybe the host said) it IS the 21st century.

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« Reply #73 on: December 10, 2006, 06:32:00 pm »
As generous as I am, I thought I'd share this very rugged pic..  8)






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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #74 on: December 10, 2006, 08:45:22 pm »
As generous as I am, I thought I'd share this very rugged pic..  8)






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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #75 on: December 10, 2006, 09:01:00 pm »
As generous as I am, I thought I'd share this very rugged pic..  8)






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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #76 on: December 10, 2006, 10:57:11 pm »
Now that's the way a man should fit his swimsuit.

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He certainly does *fit* those swim trunks ..  8)


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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #77 on: December 12, 2006, 04:15:47 am »
I heard on E! TV that Daniel Craig said he wouldn't mind if the new Bond went homo-erotic with some characters.  After all, he said (or maybe the host said) it IS the 21st century.
I can't believe it will happen. Now some lesbians lolling around until Bond "cures" them, that I can believe. It may have even happened already.

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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #78 on: December 12, 2006, 02:41:35 pm »
Okay, I'm weighing in on this thread 6 pages into it. So guess what? I've NEVER seen a James Bond movie...I knew something of the classic themes (the music, the gadgets, the Astin Martin cars, the action sequences, the women) but I didn't really care I guess.

Well, I had heard Casino Royale was really good, and had a gut feeling about it so I went and saw it on Sunday -- and LOVED it! I can't compare of course, but having heard from my friend what the others are like (the never getting his tux mussed up, the flirtation with M's secretary, the beginning always being an action sequence, etc) I think this was a fantastic choice for my first Bond.

I loved Daniel Craig as Bond. I agree with whomever said he runs as beautifully as an Olympic sprinter, and oooh, that chest, and mmmm, those eyes. How did all the other Bonds manage to pull off being so sexy without those two things? Not to mention seeming super-human without the buffness?

I agree that the train scene with Vesper and Bond was fabulously written and entertaining as hell. I like how Barb said it's a look at how Bond begins. Whenever a new actor takes the role though, aren't there explanations or re-doings of the Astin Martin acquirement and martinis and such? And I missed how the martini thing came to be a favorite here -- I thought it was just already a given that he liked them.

The construction site scene is amazing -- and if that person who mentioned parkour is talking about this new "game" where people (mostly teens and young adults I think, mostly male) take on the landscapes of cities as if they are obstacle courses, running, vaulting, jumping and sliding over the various walls/stairs/ramps/etc, then that is what I was thinking too when I watched it. Pretty effin cool.

Okay, has anyone mentioned the walk yet? I don't know if that is how Daniel Craig walks anyway but that has got to be the sexiest man-walk I've ever seen. Like a panther. Yowza!

Re: going homo-erotic -- now that shows some serious originality and ahead-of-his-time thinking for someone just beginning to play Bond....if the naysayers can't take it that he's blond, "too short," and gets blood on his tux, then homoeroticism would be major blasphemy for them.

I can't wait for the next one, and I agree it seems there is a sequel in the air...

Go Daniel Craig and the new James Bond!

p.s. thanks for the pics Lucise! Esp. the last one -- oh. my. god. (I think this shot is the 00's version of early 80s Bo Derek in "10."

p.p.s. I never saw the Zodiac trailer -- must have been in the restroom. Wah!
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #79 on: December 12, 2006, 03:03:36 pm »

Jenny!!  How are you lady?  :D

Yay!  Another Casino Royale Lover, woohoo!!  ;D

I dreamt about Daniel C last night, but I am too lady-like to share the contents of said dream!  ::)  8)

I am going to see it *again* for the last time tonight ..  :P,  then I'll wait for the DVD!


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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #80 on: December 12, 2006, 04:10:20 pm »
Hey Milli!

I'm good, trying to hang here a little but good god, it really sucks my time away from what I need to be doing!

Still, it's great to see you and others. How many times will that be for you to see CR? It might be worth another look I suppose, though I still haven't seen Borat yet or Stranger than Fiction, and wanted to see the latter especially.

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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #81 on: December 12, 2006, 08:23:43 pm »
Hey Jen -

Tonight will be my 3rd ..er, 4th, er..yeah, .. viewing of CR!  8)  Yet this obsession is way under control when I compare it to the Brokeback fever that hit me like a tonne of bricks at the start of the year! lol

I want to watch Apocalypto next .. It looks good!  :)

Have missed seeing ya online.  Hope life is good!  ;)


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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #82 on: December 12, 2006, 08:29:52 pm »
Wow, you do like CR! It was really fun--any thing stick out to you more on subsequent viewings? I bet there is a site out there in cyberspace that serves as the Bettermost for Bond fans...wonder what they call themselves? Bondages?

Apoc looks waaaay to violent for me, but if it weren't so, I might like it I suppose. I'm kinda into learning about pre-Christian civilizations.

It's good to be back and yes, life is much better this fall than it was back in the world of temping. But then again, I had the time to be here cause of that when I didn't have the energy or time for anything else.

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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #83 on: December 13, 2006, 01:23:57 pm »
Wow, you do like CR! It was really fun--any thing stick out to you more on subsequent viewings?

Just how perfect Daniel Craig is as Bond! His facial expressions (the 'cruel' mouth, those amazing eyes), his walk, his look, his attitude, ..everything!  8)

I now have 2 fave 007s on my list:  Connery and Craig!


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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #84 on: December 13, 2006, 01:40:09 pm »
And I missed how the martini thing came to be a favorite here -- I thought it was just already a given that he liked them.

I love how they set you up for the old cliché and then cheekily not give you what you expected. "Shaken or Stirred?" "Do I look like I give a damn?"
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #85 on: December 14, 2006, 07:56:11 pm »
I love how they set you up for the old cliché and then cheekily not give you what you expected. "Shaken or Stirred?" "Do I look like I give a damn?"

I had heard this line before I saw the movie and the context in which it is spoken in the movie was not explained ot me, so this line made it sound like Bond was still 'rough around the edges' and didn't have the taste he grew to have in martinis (shaking the martini apparently dilutes the drink less than stirring it), instead,

SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!  SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!  SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!












he does like martinis and is quite knowledgeable about his drinks and this line is spoken when he's distracted and angry.


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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #86 on: December 14, 2006, 08:12:08 pm »
I had heard this line before I saw the movie and the context in which it is spoken in the movie was not explained ot me, so this line made it sound like Bond was still 'rough around the edges' and didn't have the taste he grew to have in martinis (shaking the martini apparently dilutes the drink less than stirring it), instead,

SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!  SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!  SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!












he does like martinis and is quite knowledgeable about his drinks and this line is spoken when he's distracted and angry.



that's what I liked about the writing. the words not only function to entertain, but they give insight into the characters at the same time, if you care to look.
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #87 on: December 15, 2006, 04:56:07 pm »
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #88 on: December 15, 2006, 07:36:12 pm »
I'm going to see CR again on Sunday with a 80 year-old family friend. He had a stroke 3 years ago and is paralysed on one side and incapable of speech. But I know from before his stroke that he is a big fan of James Bond and all kind of gadets. We found out about which cinema gives access to wheelchairs and airs CR. It's going to be a fun day!

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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #89 on: December 16, 2006, 04:51:08 am »
I had heard this line before I saw the movie and the context in which it is spoken in the movie was not explained ot me, so this line made it sound like Bond was still 'rough around the edges' and didn't have the taste he grew to have in martinis (shaking the martini apparently dilutes the drink less than stirring it)

I'm getting side track, but I just heard a discussion of this on a food radio show. The host was talking to a rep from Plymouth Gin. When asked whether we should be ordering our martinis shaken, he said "Absolutely not!" Shaking the martini can break ice shards into the drink and thus dilutes it more than stirring. In addition, shaking will "bruise" the gin, separating the oil in the chemistry of the gin, making it cloud up, instead of remaining clear and crisp.
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #90 on: December 16, 2006, 08:26:37 am »
Ah, but James drinks vodka martinis.  :)
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #91 on: December 18, 2006, 02:04:21 pm »
sure enough. i have no idea if one can bruise vodka. the dilution issue still applies though, i think. not that I'm such a sophisticated drinker to actually be able to tell the difference.
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #92 on: December 18, 2006, 05:36:16 pm »
another pic interlude?  8)






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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #93 on: December 23, 2006, 02:41:21 pm »
I finally saw this movie last night!  Loved it!  8)

I agree the opening credits were super.  I don't think anyone has mentioned the music, and I thought that added so much, all through the movie.  Sexy, swaggering, brass-heavy--it took me back to the Connery Bond movies.  And because Daniel Craig is so believably dangerous and such a worthy protagonist, it didn't seem to be trying to lend substance to a hero that wasn't delivering it.

I think Barb mentioned this--what I like most about Daniel Craig is his brutal quality, which I think was the secret of Sean Connery's Bond.  He had a cruel look that made you fear and respect him as one who needed to kill as part of his job.  As handsome as he is, Craig's face and eyes remind me of nothing so much as a copperhead snake, deadly and utterly ready to strike.  The more debonair Bonds fade into the woodwork in comparison.

There did seem to be about three endings, making the movie seem longer than it actually was, and I'm also with those who didn't quite buy the love story.  The action sequences were really well done, taut and exciting.  I had a "bleah" moment when I noticed "Crash's" Paul Haggis is one of the screenwriters.  Guess I'll have to get over that.  >:(

I read a number of the Ian Fleming novels in the sixites and remember that scene where they take the bottom out of the chair to torture Bond.  Little did I know I'd see it done on film so effectively.  Wow!  :P

It's been a long time since I've seen an action movie that delivered like this.  How great to see some juice back in the old genre!  8)
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #94 on: December 23, 2006, 08:17:27 pm »
Hey Meryl ..

Always exciting to read another good CR review!  8)
Glad to hear you liked the film!

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I think Barb mentioned this--what I like most about Daniel Craig is his brutal quality, which I think was the secret of Sean Connery's Bond.  He had a cruel look that made you fear and respect him as one who needed to kill as part of his job.  As handsome as he is, Craig's face and eyes remind me of nothing so much as a copperhead snake, deadly and utterly ready to strike.  The more debonair Bonds fade into the woodwork in comparison.

Exactly.  He looks amazingly 'dangerous' in this pic .. Love it!  ;)



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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #95 on: December 23, 2006, 08:31:34 pm »
Thanks for all the tasty pics of DC, Milli!  Especially the Bo Derek shot coming out of the water!  :P
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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #96 on: December 24, 2006, 01:05:45 pm »
Wow - like a copperhead snake - that's exactly it, Meryl.  Good call.  Yep - I agree that the only other Bond that even compares to Daniel Craig's is Sean Connery's.  Needless to say, that's saying A LOT.

I didn't notice Paul Haggis in the credits.  That woulda taken the wind out of my sails a tad, too.

I'm going to go see The Good Shepherd today.  It gets mixed reviews, but I notice that the reviewers I agree with most often like it a lot.  So I'm hopeful.

I saw The Good German yesterday.  I thought it was kinda blah.  Maybe I should go into detail as to why in another thread so as not to hijack my own.  But to just give some quick reasons, George Clooney continues to do zippity-doo-dah for me as an actor, and Tobey Maguire, as much as I've liked him in the past, wasn't actor enough to carry off this role.  I just don't think he's capable, after all, of insidiousness with a hint of vulnerability.  I just didn't buy him as a really icky guy.  It actually unintentionally gave me the creeps to watch him try.  But even with a better actor in the role, the movie would have fallen flat.  The dialog was flat, flat, flat.  I'm surprised I didn't see Paul Haggis' name in its credits.

Gotta run - I'll file my report later!


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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #97 on: December 29, 2006, 06:11:19 pm »
Wow - like a copperhead snake - that's exactly it, Meryl.  Good call.  Yep - I agree that the only other Bond that even compares to Daniel Craig's is Sean Connery's.  Needless to say, that's saying A LOT.

Thanks, Barb.  Yep, it's a major compliment to DC's Bond that he is able to be put in Sean's company and not pale into insignificance.  8)

Hey, this critic actually puts "Casino Royale" at the top of his list for the best of 2006!  :D

December 28, 2006

Owen Gleiberman, film critic for Entertainment Weekly magazine, picks the ten best movies of 2006.

10. Cars Pixar's witty and gorgeously designed NASCAR fable was the niftiest fantasy in a year of animated overkill.

9. The Death of Mr. Lazarescu was an enthralling human drama from Romania that follows one long night as a lonely old wreck of an alcoholic is shuttled from hospital to hospital.

8. Sweet Land If this movie had Terrence Malick's name on it, it would have been praised to the heavens, as it re-synchs your heartbeat to a pre-technological time, touching chords of collective memory about love and the American immigrant dream.

7. Infamous was that other movie about how Truman Capote entered the stern Kansas heartland to create “In Cold Blood.” It's a bolder, zestier, even more revelatory vision.

6. Deliver Us From Evil You may think you know all that you want to know about the child-sex-abuse scandals of the Roman Catholic Church, but Amy Berg's psychologically transfixing documentary brings us searingly close to the victims, the perpetrators, and the officials who covered it all up.

5. Dave Chappelle's Block Party is the most nimble, accomplished, and blazingly alive concert movie since “Stop Making Sense.”

4. Sherrybaby The finest acting I saw all year was Maggie Gyllenhaal's fearless performance as a dilapidated good-time girl who emerges from prison and tries to reconnect with her daughter.

3. The Good Shepherd Robert De Niro's heady and intoxicating inquiry into the early decades of the CIA transcends the espionage thriller in much the same way that “The Godfather” transcended the gangster genre, though be warned: It's a movie of hints, shadows, and barely glimpsed connections.

2. United 93 For most of Paul Greengrass' amazing, hair-trigger 9/11 thriller, we're not just sitting back and watching a terrorist attack, we're right on that plane, along with the passengers, living their fear as they try to change the destiny of a world that has opened up like an abyss.

1. Casino Royale Yes, I realize it's heresy to say that the year's best film could actually be entertaining, but the beauty of this new James Bond classic, with its indelible performance by Daniel Craig, is the way it revives the primal enjoyment of what action, suspense, and romance feel like when there is something at stake.


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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #98 on: December 30, 2006, 06:00:48 pm »
Wow! Thanks for that post Meryl!  ;)

How about another pic?  ::)





..and for old time's sake .. :P





I hope I can catch one last viewing of CR before it leaves theatres!

Other movies I am yet to check out:
- Blood diamonds
- Apocalypto
- And the new movie with Dame Judy and Kate Blanchett: Notes on a Scandal.

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Re: Four reasons you should go see "Casino Royale"
« Reply #99 on: December 30, 2006, 06:58:51 pm »
I've managed to go see CR over the holidays and I completely agree with the lot of you. I've previously always thought James Bond films were so unrealistic that they've just been boring to me (I haven't sen all that many of them to be honest). Not this one! Very entertaining, exiting, wonderful action scenes, great characters. I've been a fan of Mads Mikkelsen's since the Danish TV series "Rejseholdet" and he didn't disappoint here. And I can't believe how Daniel Craig has managed to stay out of my sights before this....... I mean.....WOW! and GUH!!  :P  :P

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« Reply #100 on: January 09, 2007, 12:55:17 pm »
I am thinking of catching one last repeat viewing tonight before it is gone from my local theatre .. (it's been weeks since I last saw it ..lol)

There is a blizzard forecasted for tonight, so I don't know ..
Although I might just brave it for another chance to check out DC's sexy eyes!!  :P