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What is it about Gyllenhaal?
« on: April 15, 2006, 09:21:04 pm »
I have been a fan of Jake Gyllenhaal way before Brokeback. His phenomenal performance as Jack has only further confirmed my feeling that he is one of the most talented actors today.
He brings such freshness, genuiness, passion, depth, and life to the characters he plays. He makes each one unique and real. For several weeks after the first few times I saw Brokeback, I just couldn't could him out of my head. Someone told me that my judgement was "clouded" because he is so attractive (a.k.a. "hot").
I thought about that for awhile and came to the conclusion that that is just not accurate. There are several actors, athletes, models, and other celebrities who are considered "hot". None of them have had the impact on me that Gyllenhaal has had. And none of the "hot" actors are people I necessarliy consider good actors.
There seems to be such depth of character, humanity, warmth, and kindness that he exudes.
Now, please, all you Heath Ledger fans, understand that I think Ledger is absolutely phenomenal, also. He, too, in my opinion, is one of the best actors today. I have seen several of his movies and he is absolutely wonderful. For whatever reason, though, I just can't get Gyllenhaal out of my head.
Am I alone with this pre-occupation with Gyllenhaal?
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Re: What is it about Gyllenhaal?
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2006, 03:30:41 am »
LOL, no not at all...

I have experienced a crushing obsession on Mr. Gyllenhaal twice now. I am only just now recovering from the last one, thanks in part to the support that so many on these boards have offered.
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Re: What is it about Gyllenhaal?
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2006, 08:28:36 am »
In answer to your question... everything?  ;)

I had liked Jake in his other movies prior to Brokeback.  And I thought he had a lot of potential that somehow wasn't being fully tapped.  His other performances weren't as rich not because he wasn't capable, but because it wasn't required.  How many nuances can you give Holden Caulfield, really, you know?  But he gave those characters really more depth than required.  Still they weren't enough to really stretch him.

My husband and I watched the movie together last night.  My ninth time (but who's counting?) his second.  I remember finding that my second viewing is what really illuminated Jack in all his many-splendored glory.  My husband thinks I'm crushing on him a bit (it's been known to happen before ;)), so I think he's thought all these viewings of mine were so I could look at him on a purely superficial level repeatedly, like that other movie and actor which shall remain nameless here.  But last night, he sat riveted to the sofa, watching in thoughtful silence the whole time.  This is rare for him.  He's like a shark - he never stops moving, even when he's asleep.  The only other movie I can remember him doing this with is Schindler's List.  And we've seen a lot of great movies together.  He even sat through *all* the credits, which he didn't do in the theater the first time, and which I can't remember him ever doing with another movie when watching it at home.  We never really talked about it the first time - he's my Ennis, dontcha know.  But this time, as we were turning everything off and heading to bed, I said, "So..."  And he goes, "You're right.  That's a great movie."  I said, "What did you think of the acting?"  He goes, "I thought it was great - *everyone* was great."  He said "everyone" as if he'd never seen anything where the acting was so good across the board.  Then he goes, "But that Jake Gyllenhaal walked away with it."  And I said, "Yep.  Kinda what I've thought all along, too."  He goes, "The other guy (lol) was great, but he just... did more."

So chalk up another fan.  :)

I have to say, too, that as much as I admired Jake's performance from the beginning of my experience of this movie, I never expected him to be such a doll in "real" life.  I watched him on Leno back in January - had never seen him interviewed before - and was just floored at how genuine and grounded and warm he is.  He made me think of Jodie Foster, in a way - she's another one I love to watch in interviews because she has such a strong, positive life force exuding from her every pore.  Both of them are so enthusiastic about and reverent of what they do, without being the least bit affected or arrogant.  It's so refreshing.
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Re: What is it about Gyllenhaal?
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2006, 08:28:33 am »
So chalk up another fan.  :)

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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2006, 05:11:13 pm »
In the scene taken at the country club with Jack dancing with Randall's wife, I thought that Jake looked A LOT like John Travolta in his Urban Cowboy days. I guess it was the costuming.
 I think Jake was good for this part because he even looks kinda "horsey" dressed up in his western clothes. His looks fit the part.
 Before Ang Lee got the project, another producer was going to try to make the film with well known, mega star actors playing Ennis & Jack.

Anyone care to guess who those actors may have been?

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Re: What is it about Gyllenhaal?
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2006, 05:38:54 pm »
Anyone care to guess who those actors may have been?

Ooooh, a quiz!  I think everyone knows about Gus Van Sant once being attached as director, but I've not heard anything about the actors (who are probably kicking themselves now for passing up on the opportunity).  I can't wait to hear who they were, which will probably be soon followed by a thorough rolling of my eyes!
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Re: What is it about Gyllenhaal?
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2006, 08:01:46 pm »
In the scene taken at the country club with Jack dancing with Randall's wife, I thought that Jake looked A LOT like John Travolta in his Urban Cowboy days. I guess it was the costuming.
 I think Jake was good for this part because he even looks kinda "horsey" dressed up in his western clothes. His looks fit the part.
 Before Ang Lee got the project, another producer was going to try to make the film with well known, mega star actors playing Ennis & Jack.

Anyone care to guess who those actors may have been?




I could be mistaken,  was one of them Christian Slater?
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Re: What is it about Gyllenhaal?
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2006, 01:23:29 am »
In researching this I found out that the first choice for Ennis was Joaquin Phoenix. Van Sant could never find a Jack he liked, and had difficulty finding someone to play the part. It was only after Ang Lee came on the scene is when everyone else came on board.

Who do you think would have made good alternative actors instead of Jake and Heath?

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Re: What is it about Gyllenhaal?
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2006, 12:24:02 am »
My name is Stacey and I, too, am obsessed with Jake Gyllenhaal.

Like you, I find a lot of actors "hot" and attractive but there is something about Jake that I can't put my finger on. From the first time I saw him wake up on the side of the road in Donnie Darko to him screaming FIVE HUNDRED DOLLLLAA in Bubble Boy to him giggling when Ennis shoves him over, I've been smitten.
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Re: What is it about Gyllenhaal?
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2006, 04:56:19 am »
I have been a fan of Jake Gyllenhaal way before Brokeback. His phenomenal performance as Jack has only further confirmed my feeling that he is one of the most talented actors today.
He brings such freshness, genuiness, passion, depth, and life to the characters he plays. He makes each one unique and real. For several weeks after the first few times I saw Brokeback, I just couldn't could him out of my head. Someone told me that my judgement was "clouded" because he is so attractive (a.k.a. "hot").
I thought about that for awhile and came to the conclusion that that is just not accurate. There are several actors, athletes, models, and other celebrities who are considered "hot". None of them have had the impact on me that Gyllenhaal has had. And none of the "hot" actors are people I necessarliy consider good actors.
There seems to be such depth of character, humanity, warmth, and kindness that he exudes.
Now, please, all you Heath Ledger fans, understand that I think Ledger is absolutely phenomenal, also. He, too, in my opinion, is one of the best actors today. I have seen several of his movies and he is absolutely wonderful. For whatever reason, though, I just can't get Gyllenhaal out of my head.
Am I alone with this pre-occupation with Gyllenhaal?

You know, I never really noticed Jake Gyllenhaal until I saw Brokeback Mountain. I had seen The Day After Tomorrow and The Good Girl, and I liked his performance on both movies, especially in The Good Girl, but he didn't stay on my mind or anything. After BBM, I couldn't get him off my head for a while. I felt silly and stupid having a crush on a 25 year old actor, who probably won't even look at me if I ever come to see him in person.

I think his eyes were what made me feel so attracted to him. Jake knows how to convey feelings through his eyes. He did that a lot when playing Jack. I was amazed by how in some scenes I knew Jack was hurting just by the way he looked at Ennis. Not all actors are capable to do that.
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Re: What is it about Gyllenhaal?
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2006, 11:36:44 pm »
I agree with you; I don't know exactly what it is, but Gyllenhaal has a quality that attracts, and it's not merely his looks. He's vulnerable, yet masculine; tough yet compassionate, aloof at times, but caring. When he's on screen, it seems like he's an old friend ---  or the sort of guy who'd stop to talk to you in grocery lines or in the waiting room at a doctor's office. I felt this when I saw "October Sky," which was my first "encounter" with him, and he's matured so much since then his attractive qualities are amplified. I recently saw him in "Proof" and felt the same way, even though he played a character that's much different from Jack. 
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Re: What is it about Gyllenhaal?
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2006, 12:18:17 am »
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Am I alone with this pre-occupation with Gyllenhaal?

I completely agree with you. I can't stop thinking about Jake either, and here's the reason why.

Today's Quiz - What do the following actors have in common?

Chris Meloni
Gale Harold
Javier Bardem
Billy Campbell
Fabrizio Fillippo
Jake Gyllenhaal
Johnny Depp
Rupert Graves
Gael Garcia Bernal
Russell Crowe

Oh, and I also believe that Jake 'walked away' with BBM. The 'Jack Twist' created by Jake far surpassed the character envisioned by Annie Proulx, an uncomfortable fact that even Proulx has acknowledged in interviews. Heath was Ennis, but Jake was ... something else.
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Re: What is it about Gyllenhaal?
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2006, 02:29:12 am »
Jake Gyllenhaal is absolutely fricken GOREGOUS, for starters, and then also he's one of the most convincing, skilled and intelligent actors to burst on the scene lately.

Yes, I love Keith Ledger too.  They are both GOREGOUS.... But I admit, I have a weakness for Jake, and Jake as Jack Twist is just the kinda guy (slighly older though) I dream of meeting and dating one day... (soon?)  I dream with millions of other dreamers!  That's part of the fun of Hollywood.

Does that answers the question?  Do I get a prize?   (LOL)

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Re: What is it about Gyllenhaal?
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2006, 12:24:45 pm »
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Am I alone with this pre-occupation with Gyllenhaal?

I completely agree with you. I can't stop thinking about Jake either, and here's the reason why.

Today's Quiz - What do the following actors have in common?

Chris Meloni
Gale Harold
Javier Bardem
Billy Campbell
Fabrizio Fillippo
Jake Gyllenhaal
Johnny Depp
Rupert Graves
Gael Garcia Bernal
Russell Crowe

Oh, and I also believe that Jake 'walked away' with BBM. The 'Jack Twist' created by Jake far surpassed the character envisioned by Annie Proulx, an uncomfortable fact that even Proulx has acknowledged in interviews. Heath was Ennis, but Jake was ... something else.

they've all played gay characters.

back to Jake. I agree, there is something intangible about him. As far as looks, yes he's hot, but so are a lot of actors and celebrities. The last time I had a crush on someone I haven't met, was in high school. For me it became futile to obsess about someone I won't meet, when there are just as many good looking, great, accessible guys that I do meet. But something about Jake just blind sided me. I was fortunate enough to go the the Q&A at the Aero and was a few feet away from the man. He just glows. Even though he was obviously tired and a little sick (coughing alot), he still exuded an energy that not many people show.
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Re: What is it about Gyllenhaal?
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2006, 12:17:07 am »
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they've all played gay characters.

Actually, if that were sole criteria, the list would have been much  longer. 

These performers have two things in common :

1) each actor portrayed a gay man with complete emotional *and* physical credibility
2) each actor is 'arguably' straight in their public lives. Privately, I don't think there's a Kinsey 1 (completely straight) among them. Regardless of how they live their lives, I think that they're all somewhere between Kinsey 2 and Kinsey 5 emotionally and sexually.

Films in question :

Rupert Graves (Maurice)
Chris Meloni (Oz)
Billy Campbell (Tales of the City)
Jake Gyllenhaal (Brokeback Mountain)
Javier Bardem (Before Night Falls, Second Skin)
Russell Crowe (The Sum of Us)
Johnny Depp (Before Night Falls)
Phillip Seymour Hoffman (Flawless, Capote)
Gael Garcia Bernal (Bad Education)
Fabrizio Fillippo (Queer As Folk)
Gale Harold (Queer as Folk)
Peter Saarsgard (The Dying Gaul)



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Re: What is it about Gyllenhaal?
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2006, 12:37:20 pm »
2) each actor is 'arguably' straight in their public lives. Privately, I don't think there's a Kinsey 1 (completely straight) among them. Regardless of how they live their lives, I think that they're all somewhere between Kinsey 2 and Kinsey 5 emotionally and sexually.

true. but then again, doesn't Kinsey say that no one is truely 1's and 6's?
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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2006, 08:08:28 pm »
2) each actor is 'arguably' straight in their public lives. Privately, I don't think there's a Kinsey 1 (completely straight) among them. Regardless of how they live their lives, I think that they're all somewhere between Kinsey 2 and Kinsey 5 emotionally and sexually.

true. but then again, doesn't Kinsey say that no one is truely 1's and 6's?

"Kinsey" can say whatever he wanted to say when he was alive. His findings were not exactly as scientific as one says.

The Kinsey thing is a straight line continuum from 1 to 6;  but, I see it as a bell curve with the majority of folks being bisexual.

From what I personally know about myself and my sexual orientation, I am exclusively homosexual in my sexual orientation. I have never experienced a physiological sexual attraction to a member of the opposite sex. But, I did confuse psychological, emotional, social and spiritual attractions to girls and women with sexual attraction toward them, although there was no below the belt emotion felt in their presence.

While I had seen Jack Gyllenhaal in a few movies before Brokeback Mountain, up to seeing the movie, he was just another actor to me.

Jake Gyllenhaal seems to express some natural innocence when he is on a talk show; and I also got that feeling when he was in the role of Jack Twist. So, IMO, personality wise, he was natural for the role because it was like he could "act naturally" as Jack.

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Re: What is it about Gyllenhaal?
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2006, 04:09:55 pm »
The Kinsey thing is a straight line continuum from 1 to 6;  but, I see it as a bell curve with the majority of folks being bisexual.

I don't think that those two are mutually exclusive. A bell curve sits on a graph with x and y axis. Kinsey's 1-6 is just the x axis of that graph. The fact that in his theory 1's and 6's are very rare, if they exist at all would support the bell curve.

While I had seen Jack Gyllenhaal in a few movies before Brokeback Mountain, up to seeing the movie, he was just another actor to me.

Jake Gyllenhaal seems to express some natural innocence when he is on a talk show; and I also got that feeling when he was in the role of Jack Twist. So, IMO, personality wise, he was natural for the role because it was like he could "act naturally" as Jack.
I thought the same thing about Jake, until I experienced this movie. His performance here while it appears naturalistic at first, you realized how much thought he actually gave to the character when you take note of the nuances. His expressions in the moments where he wasn't saying anything, the moments that aren't described in the short story nor the script. He had to really dig deep to define the character for himself and bring out the subtle emotions. I'm a convert when I comes to Jake. I didn't think he was anything other than a pretty face until this film came along.
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Re: What is it about Gyllenhaal?
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2006, 01:14:57 am »

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He had to really dig deep to define the character for himself and bring out the subtle emotions. I'm a convert when I comes to Jake. I didn't think he was anything other than a pretty face until this film came along.

I completely agree. I didn't really take him seriously until BBM. He gave a workmanlike performance in Proof and The Day After Tomorrow. Jarhead was also interesting and courageous, if somewhat predictable. But his performance in BBM was brilliant, especially from my post-Stonewall perspective. People have described him as Generation X's answer to Montgomery Clift and Johnny Depp, but the Meloni influence is extremely important as well. Jake is more masculine, and even macho, in BBM than Depp and Clift have ever been, and I think that this is an aspect of gay culture that red-state America needs to see. Macho Chris Keller on Oz (Meloni) is not a mainstream character, but Jack Twist circa 2006 is your next-door neighbor: your stock-broker, your lawyer, your doctor (see husky Javier Bardem in Second Skin), your farmer, your construction worker, your football player or your soccer-Dad. As long as they're completely gorgeous, of course!

Jake, on the other hand, is an honorary bearcub.  ;)

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Re: What is it about Gyllenhaal?
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2006, 10:54:41 am »
I agree, ghent.  And excellent analogy with Christopher Meloni (who I adored on Oz and pretty much everything else he's done).  I see that comparison much more readily than the Clift or Depp ones.  Along the same lines, Heath keeps getting compared with Marlon Brando, James Dean, and Sean Penn.  I don't see that at all.  If we must make comparisons, I see William Holden - someone much more complex than those other three put together.  But really, I think they're both unlike anyone who's ever been a cinematic icon before.  I remember Owen Gliebermann was one of those who compared Jake to Montgomery Clift - I didn't see that so much, but I liked the way he preceded that by saying "he has a quicksilver quality" - as Ang Lee would say, I like the taste of that word, quicksilver, in relation to him.
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Re: What is it about Gyllenhaal?
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2006, 04:11:52 pm »
I like the taste of that word, quicksilver, in relation to him.


i love how you put that. yes it does have a nice "taste" to it.
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« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2006, 04:28:34 pm »
i love how you put that. yes it does have a nice "taste" to it.

Oh, thanks - but I must credit Ang Lee, who said on one of the bonus features on the DVD (maybe it was the Logo special?) that he likes the taste of the words Brokeback Mountain.  :)
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« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2006, 07:34:50 pm »
Oh, thanks - but I must credit Ang Lee, who said on one of the bonus features on the DVD (maybe it was the Logo special?) that he likes the taste of the words Brokeback Mountain.  :)

I'm ashamed to admit. I have not looked at the extras on the DVD. I've only been watching the film.
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Re: What is it about Gyllenhaal?
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2006, 11:02:43 pm »
What is it about JG? How much time ya got?
From an old fans pov tho, I'd say looks gets ya first, talent & then that boyish goofiness he exudes from time to time. Not to mention he's rather intelligent in an unassuming way.
All in all, not unlike the kid next door .( I wish ; )
As for the comparison to Monty, I'll pass on that one. Just don't see it. MC had a sort of nervous energy in almost everything he did. Jake on the other hand, a quiet kind of force.
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Re: What is it about Gyllenhaal?
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2006, 08:30:39 am »
As for the comparison to Monty, I'll pass on that one. Just don't see it. MC had a sort of nervous energy in almost everything he did. Jake on the other hand, a quiet kind of force.
Theres a scene in Jarhead that grabs me every time. See it & you'll know the one.

A quiet kind of force.  What a perfect way of saying that.  I don't get the Monty comparison, either.  Pure matinee idol looks - maybe.  But it ends there.

And do you mean the scene in which he finally gets the sniper assignment, only to have it taken away, and the way he's so calm while Peter Sarsgaard goes ballistic?
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Re: What is it about Gyllenhaal?
« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2006, 02:53:21 pm »
Hi ednbarby, yes! thats one I'd forgotten about, but theres another. Don't want to give too much away, but it does involve a rifle.
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Re: What is it about Gyllenhaal?
« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2006, 04:07:45 pm »
WHat is it about Jake?  EVERYTHING!!  I've been a fan for awhile now and i have to say that he is a very personable man.  He's got a certain kind of grace but at the same time hes not afraid to let loose and have some fun.  He has a wonderful sense of humor, and a confidence that is unassuming.  He's just so likeable!  Not just his hottie status but in his interviews he seems genuine and caring and sweet.  He's not afraid of challenges and hes not afraid to do something he believes in.  All in all an incredible man.  AND THOSE EYES!!!!!! They get me everytime!!  They are soo expressive!!!  He can eat crackers in my bed anyday and leave the crumbs!!
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