Lords of Dogtown-I made a mistake!

[RouxB]

Oh, bad mistake! I was trying to broaden my Heath horizons and decided to rent The Lords of Dogtown. If only I could turn back time! To hear Ennis del Mar coming out of the mouth of Skip was just something this Brokie wasn't ready to experience. It's midnight and I have to watch BbM to restore balance to my world.

 

[Aussie Chris]

Well that's good to know, thanks for the warning.  Something was preventing me from watching this one, but I was seriously considering it.  Now I know that it could mess with a Brokies mind, I'll steer clear.  At least you can take heart that you're mistake was good as a public service!  AC.

[RouxB]

LOL! That's me! If you loved Heath as Ennis and aren't ready to let that go-don't see anything of his in which he speaks with an American (ish) accent! It will mess with your head.

And why are you still up anyway?!

 

[Aussie Chris]

LOL! That's me! If you loved Heath as Jake and aren't ready to let that go-don't see anything of his in which he speaks with an American (ish) accent! It will mess with your head.

And why are you still up anyway?!

He he, no worries.  I think I've pretty much banned myself from watching Heath in anything for a while, I don't seem to have the same problem with Jake though, go figure?

And being in the land of Oz, we're 15 hours (I think) in front of you, thankfully, I need that much of a head start to read all the posts from the day before!

[serious crayons]

That's funny, Ruby! I had exactly the opposite reaction -- Lords of Dogtown is the ONLY movie I've been able to watch Heath in since Brokebackl! That might be because I saw it BEFORE I saw BBM and liked it a lot (partly because my sons are skateboarders). I watched it again after BBM and still liked it. I bought the soundtrack of mid-'70s rock and my boys (ages 10 and 11) and I love to crank it up and sing along when we're in the car.

I liked a lot of things about the movie, but the best thing about it is Heath's performance. I'd had my doubts about the casting for BBM when I heard about it, but after seeing LOD, I knew that everything would be OK.

When I watch Heath as Skip Engblom, I forget completely about Heath as Ennis (well, to the extent that I EVER forget completely about Heath as Ennis). The two characters are so different, and Heath looks and acts so different, that you'd hardly know they were played by the same person. Skip is the classic California surfer dude, and Heath just nails him -- he acts and sounds EXACTLY like the guys I've known like that. And his character is poignant, sort of an arrogant washed-up alcoholic loser.

The only similarity I saw between Skip and Ennis is that Skip says "hunh" once or twice.

On the other hand, I know exactly what you mean, Chris, about avoiding other Heath movies. I know I normally would like Casanova, but I can't bring myself to see it. (I have been tempted to rent Monster's Ball, though ...)

[MaineWriter]

On the other hand, I know exactly what you mean, Chris, about avoiding other Heath movies. I know I normally would like Casanova, but I can't bring myself to see it. (I have been tempted to rent Monster's Ball, though ...)

I actually saw Casanova in the theater--went to see BBM and it was sold out, so my daughter and I watched Casanova instead. Total fluff, and silly, but Heath is cute and we enjoyed it.

Monster's Ball...if you've seen it, you know what's in it. If you haven't...be warned. It almost killed me. As I said on another thread, I had to have a ritual viewing of "A Knight's Tale" to recover.

Leslie

[starboardlight]

Although I would highly recommend the documentary "Dogtown and Z-boys". It's the story that "Lords of Dogtown" was based on. Just a very compelling story about a group of kids who started the whole skateboarding craze. And for those of us who were kids in the 70's and 80's, it's quite nostalgic as well. A wonderfully told documentary, and no Heath to mess with your head.

[serious crayons]

Although I would highly recommend the documentary "Dogtown and Z-boys". It's the story that "Lords of Dogtown" was based on. Just a very compelling story about a group of kids who started the whole skateboarding craze. And for those of us who were kids in the 70's and 80's, it's quite nostalgic as well. A wonderfully told documentary, and no Heath to mess with your head.

True, Starboardlight. "Z-Boys" was directed by skater-turned-filmmaker Stacy Perralta, who wrote "Lords," and is one of the original skateboarders from Dogtown featured in both films. And as a '70s kid, I agree that both movies are nostalgic and fun and make the '70s look cool for a change.

"Z-Boys" happens to be the only DVD I own (yes, I don't yet own BBM). My 10-year-old son gave it to me for Valentine's Day.

[Front-Ranger]

How sweet, lat. I gave Z-boys to my 14-yr-old son for Christmas and it was his favorite present. Our garage, which was littered with hockey and lacrosse sticks and scooters, now has skateboards, longboards, homemade boards, misc. trucks, wheels, and hardware, and one prized Alva board. The big gift that my son gave to me was teaching me how to chat! It was a necessity--whenever I would sit down to my home computer, a little white cloud would appear in the top right corner. After about 5 minutes, it would appear again with ???s in it. Then 5 minutes later, with !!!!!!s and other punctuation. I finally figured out that it was from some girlfriend or other of my son's. Somehow they know when the computer's active and start demand that he IM with them. Finally I figured out how to respond and explain that no Kit was not ignoring him, it was just Kit's mom doing a little surfing of my own. Then I got a lot of ROFLs and LOLs and such. 

As for Ennis movies, I'm just waiting for one where he gets on a horse again. Not the Patriot or Four Feathers, that's not the same.

[ednbarby]

I can kind of relate.  I went to watch A Knight's Tale about a month ago on a friend's recommendation.  Couldn't get through it.  I don't know if it was because I wasn't "ready" to see Heath do something else yet or I wasn't ready to see something so totally fluffy yet.  I didn't even get far enough to see who his love interest was - I only made it through about the first 15 minutes.   

[bbm_stitchbuffyfan]

I saw A Knight's Tale a few years back and just plain didn't like the movie. I haven't seen Lords of Dogtown or Casanova but I know I'd have a rough time watching Heath in them. I mean, he's an excellent actor and I think he can be versatile as well but I think he was just a bit *too* good as Ennis. I can say the same thing for Jake as Jack because I watched Jarhead after I saw Brokeback, and although I liked Jarhead, it was gutting to watch Jake in a different role.

It's so weird and although these two are probably my favorite actors, this Brokeback illness of mine has almost put me off their movies, other than BBM, for life. Or at least, several long months...

[MaineWriter]

It's so weird and although these two are probably my favorite actors, this Brokeback illness of mine has almost put me off their movies, other than BBM, for life. Or at least, several long months...

That's interesting but I don't feel that way at all. There's Ennis and Jack, and then there's Heath and Jake. I have always liked Heath as an actor (I am less familiar with Jake) and I really want to see him in other things. I am hoping that his new Australian movie (Candy) gets released somewhere near where I live...I want to see that. Early press is good.

L

[FuzzyChanny]

It's so weird and although these two are probably my favorite actors, this Brokeback illness of mine has almost put me off their movies, other than BBM, for life. Or at least, several long months...

That's interesting but I don't feel that way at all. There's Ennis and Jack, and then there's Heath and Jake. I have always liked Heath as an actor (I am less familiar with Jake) and I really want to see him in other things. I am hoping this his new Australian movie (Candy) gets released somewhere near where I live...I want to see that. Early press is good.

L

I completely agree Leslie. Everyone keeps saying I only love BBM cos Jake's in it but it's not true. Within the first two minutes Heath and Jake are lost to me and it's all about Ennis and Jack. They are completely seperate, they don't even look the same to me.

[RouxB]

Balance has been restored to my universe. I just saw the last hour of 10 Things I Hate About You and Heath was sooooo damn cute! He was very Heath-the charming, funny Heath, not the ADD Heath (though I love them both) and not at all Ennis so things are back as they should be. Phew!

Also bought Monsters Ball today.

[ednbarby]

I think my problem with A Knight's Tale is that I just plain don't like it, either, Buffster. 

I also just caught a bit of 10 Things I Hate About You and was reminded of how much I enjoyed Heath in that the first time I saw it many moons ago.  Don't much like Julia Stiles, though, but that can be overlooked.  So I can probably deal with Casanova, as long as it doesn't have the decision-making disorder A Knight's Tale has (Am I campy? Am I serious? Am I trying at all to be historically accurate, or just blowing it off entirely?).  I think it didn't help that the friend who recommended it had the gall to call it "the new Princess Bride."  Please.  There is no substitute for that one.

[Ellemeno]

I liked Lords of Dogtown, which I rented right before we Seven Pilgrims went to the Santa Monica BBM screening of Ang-lessFest.  It takes place in that part of California, so I thought I would get a taste of that, plus Heath. 

I also noticed the times he said a couple of Ennislike "hunh"s.  Other than that, he was not the same person at all.  just like with Ennis though, one of my favorite scenes in the film is his last, where he hardly talks at all, but goes through a kaleidoscope of feelings while working on a surfboard and drinking.  Just in his face and movements, you can see the various emotions that run through him about the situation.  What a guy.

[starboardlight]

I think my problem with A Knight's Tale is that I just plain don't like it, either, Buffster. 

well, the whole thing with setting a medieval/renaissance period film with rock music is rather contrive. either you bought the gimmick or you don't. For me that was my first Heath experience, and I really sat through it just because of him, I think.