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Jake Jake Jake!
souxi:
--- Quote from: myprivatejack on February 29, 2008, 01:21:09 pm ---I'm afraid to agree with Mikaela; I also feel a little disappointed with Jake.The question is not if he must have spoken or not much before;I've already said that if it had served to "nurture" some kind of vultures about some very personal questions,it would be better to him to shut up.I feel disappointed for not having attended his good friend's burial-according to all evidences,that's true...-and the general sense of let the "thing" apart that he seems to have.I don't mind,really,if fans insult me or something like that; good actors are,above all,human being,with all that this means.I'm sorry.
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I,m not so much disapointed as surprised really. I,m sure I,m not the only one who expected him to say something after Heath died. He is Matildas godfather and they were best friends, even if they didnt see each other all that much, so yes I,m surprised. As time goes on though, it,s looking less likely that he,ll say anything. I do think it,s a bit odd. :-\
Brown Eyes:
My current thought about Jake not making a statement has to do with his awareness of his Brokie fan-base in relation to the tragedy with Heath. On the one hand I can understand that his reaction to this tragedy (at this point and based on the evidence that we know about) was very private. And, that's perfectly fine and could just be the way he handles grief and the difficulty of the situation. One could imagine another scenario, however, where he could have said or done something to try to comfort/ reach-out to Brokeback fans (whom he must know would be taking this whole situation particularly hard). It could have been tremendously meaningful to Brokies if done right I think. But, it would have demonstrated an interest in reaching out to fans that I don't know is part of Jake's normal m.o. So, this might be an unrealistic thing to even think about. I still don't think that a eulogy of some sort is too much to ask (while I do think intrusive tabloid-esque desire for displays of personal grief would be inappropriate)
But, I've said it before and I'll say it again... that as a Brokie I find it odd that we've heard from Daniel Day-Lewis as one of the most gracious formal eulogies so far and not from Jake. It's nice that Ang Lee said something and of course Michelle. I mean, if Michelle and Heath's family could find the strength and feel the need to make some sort of public gesture, it's hard to understand Jake's particularly withdrawn stance so far (aside from the one L.A. memorial that it seems he did attend).
souxi:
--- Quote from: atz75 on February 29, 2008, 02:15:51 pm ---My current thought about Jake not making a statement has to do with his awareness of his Brokie fan-base in relation to the tragedy with Heath. On the one hand I can understand that his reaction to this tragedy (at this point and based on the evidence that we know about) was very private. And, that's perfectly fine and could just be the way he handles grief and the difficulty of the situation. One could imagine another scenario, however, where he could have said or done something to try to comfort/ reach-out to Brokeback fans (whom he must know would be taking this whole situation particularly hard). It could have been tremendously meaningful to Brokies if done right I think. But, it would have demonstrated an interest in reaching out to fans that I don't know is part of Jake's normal m.o. So, this might be an unrealistic thing to even think about. I still don't think that a eulogy of some sort is too much to ask (while I do think intrusive tabloid-esque desire for displays of personal grief would be inappropriate)
But, I've said it before and I'll say it again... that as a Brokie I find it odd that we've heard from Daniel Day-Lewis as one of the most gracious formal eulogies so far and not from Jake. It's nice that Ang Lee said something and of course Michelle. I mean, if Michelle and Heath's family could find the strength and feel the need to make some sort of public gesture, it's hard to understand Jake's particularly withdrawn stance so far (aside from the one L.A. memorial that it seems he did attend).
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Yep totally agree with all of that. I mean poor Heath,s parents and his sister, who were absolutly heartbroken and still are obviously, found the strength to say something, Michelle did, yet from Jake, nothing. Maybe we,ll never know why. :-\
myprivatejack:
--- Quote from: souxi on February 29, 2008, 01:52:29 pm ---I,m not so much disapointed as surprised really. I,m sure I,m not the only one who expected him to say something after Heath died. He is Matildas godfather and they were best friends, even if they didnt see each other all that much, so yes I,m surprised. As time goes on though, it,s looking less likely that he,ll say anything. I do think it,s a bit odd. :-\
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But I repite that the most important point is not to say anything or not say it;bearing in mind that anything he had said had been taken in a wrong sense,that's for sure...If he had shown too much grief,he had been criticised or there had been some speculations about his private life;if he had said nothing,as this is the case,he had been criticised for being "too cold".I guess it hasn't been an easy time for him,not only for having lost a friend,but for the circumstances around him.
The most important thing,for me,is not this silence,but this being apart of any respect behaviour to Heath's family;even Sienna Miller,who only did a movie with him,attended his burial-according to what I know-,why not Jake?.Is more important to keep his intimity safe or to be with a friend in his last journey?This,if his intimity was going to be attacked if he had gone to the burial,f.e.,when a simple word of "No comment" could be effective...
As you say,one can feel surprised,if disappointed is a too hard word;but unpleasantly surprised,maybe?.Words are not important;less,much less than facts...
souxi:
--- Quote from: myprivatejack on February 29, 2008, 02:30:57 pm ---But I repite that the most important point is not to say anything or not say it;bearing in mind that anything he had said had been taken in a wrong sense,that's for sure...If he had shown too much grief,he had been criticised or there had been some speculations about his private life;if he had said nothing,as this is the case,he had been criticised for being "too cold".I guess it hasn't been an easy time for him,not only for having lost a friend,but for the circumstances around him.
The most important thing,for me,is not this silence,but this being apart of any respect behaviour to Heath's family;even Sienna Miller,who only did a movie with him,attended his burial-according to what I know-,why not Jake?.Is more important to keep his intimity safe or to be with a friend in his last journey?This,if his intimity was going to be attacked if he had gone to the burial,f.e.,when a simple word of "No comment" could be effective...
As you say,one can feel surprised,if disappointed is a too hard word;but unpleasantly surprised,maybe?.Words are not important;less,much less than facts...
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Forgive me for being dense but I don,t understand what you mean in these two quotes? Why would he be criticized for saying something after Heath died? If anything it would be welcomed. No one else in the entertainment business who said anything was criticized for it, so I,m sorry I,m not sure I understand what you mean. Also the part about being with his friend on his last journey, ie his funeral, well why not? People go to their friends funerals all the time to pay their last respects, so why not Jake? Again forgive me if I,m being dense, and I mean no disrespect but I honestly don,t get your point. :-\
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