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BBM and the sin of Sodom
TJ:
--- Quote from: kirkmusic on May 08, 2006, 03:26:41 am ---As interesting as the original post sounds, I know how these conversations usually go on TOB and can't bring myself to check it out. This thread however has been most informative. Thanks all.
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You are welcome, kirkmusic.
While I know to which BbM discussion board the initials "TOB," refer and that I am even registered over on it; I never really got involved in much discussion there. I don't remember being very involved, even if at all, with a discussion about Sodom and BbM.
I know as much as I do about Sodom in the Bible because of my own study and formal theological educational background. I don't always agree with the educated with Doctorates theologians who are openly gay either.
Impish:
Does TOB mean "that other board?"
slayers_creek_oth:
--- Quote from: Impish on May 08, 2006, 07:25:41 pm ---Does TOB mean "that other board?"
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Other or old....
kudzudaddy:
--- Quote from: yaadpyar on May 01, 2006, 05:51:05 pm ---This is from TOB/IMDb - I thought it was pretty intersting. I've copied the OP. Check out the link if you want to see the rest.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0388795/board/flat/42206750
BBM and the sin of Sodom
by - pastorfred 1 day ago (Sun Apr 30 2006 08:15:36 ) Ignore this User | Report Abuse
Great, Yaad... this is one of my favorite threads from Imdb... Pastorfred is a wonderful man and I try never to miss a post of his.
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The Biblical theme of the sin of Sodom figures largely through the movie, but it's not what you think, and its meaning to the story is surprising.
The Bible story is told in the 19th chapter of Genesis, and it is widely misinterpreted as a condemnation of anal sex. Even the word, "sodomy," is used to signify anal sex. That interpretation is totally wrong, however, as told in Ezekiel 16:49: "Neither did she (Sodom) strengthen the hand of the poor and the needy." The sin of Sodom was a lack of hospitality, the victimization of the vulnerable. It was a capital crime in ancient Sodom to give aid to the needy or the stranger. The men of Sodom thought they could do as they pleased to God's messengers (angels) because they were outsiders.
In Brokeback Mountain, the sin of Sodom was committed by the murderers of the rancher, Earl, and by Ennis's father in laughing about it and insisting that his sons see the tortured and murdered body. The consequence of that dreadful sin was the tragic flaw in Ennis, his own internalized homophobia and his inability to integrate his love for Jack into the rest of his life.
One of my pet peeves is the misuse of the story of Sodom to mislead people into believing that homosexual acts are particularly offensive to God, that He destroyed ancient Sodom because of them. The offense, explicitly spelled out in Ezekiel 16:49, was not sexual. Scripture interprets scripture, and I feel that it is past high time to set the record straight. Maybe Brokeback Mountain can help.
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moremojo:
--- Quote from: Impish on May 02, 2006, 10:26:57 am --- I see Christianity as a negative force in the world, and what makes it so insidious is that it's followers are largely good, well-meaning people. They don't see the repercussions of a religion that teaches them that at their core of their being -- their very essence -- is "original sin."
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Hi, Bill,
This lies at the very heart of my inability to accept Christianity as my path in life. I simply cannot accept the notion of original sin which lies at the very foundation of the faith. This naturally leads to my inability to accept Jesus as the sacrifice for this sin, because I reject the belief in the sin in the first place. I find Jesus admirable as a teacher and an example of moral living, but I can't make that further leap into believing on him as the one incarnation of the Divine, born of a virgin, come into the world as the blood-sacrifice for Adam's transgression. I actually have much less problem with the aspect of bodily resurrection, but interpret that in a different light from historical, orthodox Christianity.
I do not find any of the three major monotheistic religions of the West, all professing allegiance to the God of Abraham, appealing in their orthodox theology. I find some of the mystical strains in these faiths attractive, and there is no dearth of individual examples of faith lived in all three traditions that are inspiring and rejuvenating. But in seeking paths that address my heart's deepest yearning and hope, I have found it useful to look East.
Scott
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