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Ennis and the Earth
starboardlight:
--- Quote from: Front-Ranger on May 02, 2006, 12:39:22 pm ---whereas Jack is of the air, and water is his element.
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*emphasis mine.
can you expand on that a bit?
Penthesilea:
--- Quote from: nakymaton on May 02, 2006, 02:29:48 pm ---
--- Quote from: Penthesilea on May 02, 2006, 04:03:27 am ---very, very deep inside the earth, at it's core, there is magma (=fire), which sometimes comes to the surface and erupts as a volcano. Just like Ennis.
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(Except that the magma doesn't usually come from the core. /geology geek ;) )
(Tries not to drool too much at the idea of Ennis and plate tectonics in the same sentence.)
(Tries really, really, really hard not to make any of my usual geology puns. Or to elaborate on exactly what kind of rock I see Ennis as. Meryl, if you're out there reading, please restrain me.)
Sorry. Amanda, this is really cool stuff. Same to everyone else on the thread. Don't let me get you off track.
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Answer from someone who is complete geology- ignorant:
Magma doesn't come frome the core??? That's what I learned at school ??? But maybe my translation to English is wrong. Then I'll sue my online-dictionary ;) Otherwise I'll sue my former teachers, my schools and the headmaster's dog. :) Or maybe I just come out as a total fool if I rememberd something completely wrong.
nakymaton:
And I just looked up the Chinese elements, because I remembered from some class in my distant past that there were five elements in Chinese philosophy, and I couldn't remember what they were. (And because they might factor into Ang Lee's choices more than the Western versions would.)
Wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_elements_%28Chinese%29
Wood, fire, earth, metal, and water. I'm not very good with making symbolism make sense, but Ennis = earth fits with that, as well. (Earth = yellow, center, smell.)
(But there is no air, and I'm not sure which of the Chinese elements makes the most sense with Jack. Wood, associated with blue and green and wind, and overcomes Earth? Water, associated with black, is overcome by Earth?)
Ellemeno:
--- Quote from: nakymaton on May 02, 2006, 03:17:38 pm ---Ennis = earth fits with that, as well. (Earth = yellow, center, smell.)
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I think of Ennis smelling his own, Jack's, and Alma Jr.'s clothes.
j.U.d.E.:
I'm totally 'buying' the idea of Jack and the Wind! It makes so much sense in so many scenes. Also the name 'Twist'.. maybe paralleled to 'twister'..
I also love the idea of Ennis and the Earth, but I was just thinking about his last name 'Del Mar' - from the Sea.. Maybe its' more Ennis and the Water.. but I don't know how to elaborate further..
~ j U d E
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