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slayers_creek_oth:
OT again.....but I also had mixed feelings about Munich.....what did you think?

rtprod:
I liked Munich very much, actually.  However, as daring as it is at times, it does amount to little more than a series of executions (all well staged) that become a bit rote after awhile, with one really resonant theme -- terrorism corrputs everyone inside out, there's no "right" and the costs on the individual are greater sometimes than the country.  I loved the scene with the daughter answering the phone, and then the scene with Bana on the phone later in the film.  Great, bizarre sex scene that defies explanation. 

rt

starboardlight:

--- Quote from: rtprod on May 03, 2006, 03:49:14 pm ---Did you think they were used as a joke?  I love the scene where the wife rushes into the hospital to find her husband.  Are you thinking about the undocumented immigrants in the van?  

BTW, I hate the term "illegal alien" because first of all, no human being is illegal.  Secondly, how can someone be an alien on a planet that belongs to all of us?   

rt

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the man got run over by a van, and it was played for laughs, in the boys' dilemma of whether to just drive off or to pull him out. the discovery of the people in the back of the van in that "auto-shop" also seemed like it was played for laughs to me. And the woman arguing insanely at the beginning as also such a joke. I'll admit, I maybe overly sensitive because I'm Asian. That is entirely possible but doesn't change the fact that I was annoyed by those characterizations. In spite of them, I still liked the film.

slayers_creek_oth:

--- Quote from: rtprod on May 03, 2006, 03:59:32 pm ---I liked Munich very much, actually.  However, as daring as it is at times, it does amount to little more than a series of executions (all well staged) that become a bit rote after awhile, with one really resonant theme -- terrorism corrputs everyone inside out, there's no "right" and the costs on the individual are greater sometimes than the country.  I loved the scene with the daughter answering the phone, and then the scene with Bana on the phone later in the film.  Great, bizarre sex scene that defies explanation. 

rt

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Yeah I guess I liked it too......I went into it with a bit of a bias because I am a big Spielberg fan and I think that I felt obligated to like it.....you know?  I think that can often times ruin a film...

rtprod:

--- Quote ---I'll admit, I maybe overly sensitive because I'm Asian.
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No, that's just fine actually and those points are well taken.  I'm overly sensitive about the BBM Oscar loss too because I'm... well, you know the rest.

Since I didn't identify with Larenz Tate or Ludicris, I found both of them ludicrous actually, and their behavior in that scene repellant.  Yes, the wife is shrill.  And again, the chop shop owner is not worth identifying with.  When that van is opened at the end of the film, there is quite a sense of poetry and wonder to the beginning of their journey.  Guess I'm sensitive to that because I know many who are undocumented immigrants who have arrived here in similar situations. 

rt

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