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optom3:
Mikaela,
I'm glad you discovered the British weren't quite the villains they were portrayed as.Now I can go and watch the dvd and see Heath in all his period costume loveliness. I was getting a little unsure up till your post.
As a Brit. in the states, it was getting a little warm in this seat!!!!!
Much in the same way I love the celebrations on July 4th, it seems strange watching the beach fireworks as a Brit.
Also it is interesting to hear some of the versions of certain historical events, my kids are being taught,as opposed to what I was taught at school.
I guess the truth lies somewhere in between.
Meryl:
I forgot another good reason to watch "The Patriot." Heath was around 18 in that movie. It's like getting a glimpse of the freshness and vulnerability of the Ennis del Mar of the summer of '63.
Regarding the use of "gay" to describe The Joker, I'll give the writer the benefit of the doubt and assume he meant "gay" in its original sense, as in "carefree and upbeat." The guy does seem cheery. ;)
Mikaela:
--- Quote from: optom3 on May 19, 2008, 01:54:58 pm ---Mikaela,
I'm glad you discovered the British weren't quite the villains they were portrayed as.Now I can go and watch the dvd and see Heath in all his period costume loveliness. I was getting a little unsure up till your post.
As a Brit. in the states, it was getting a little warm in this seat!!!!!
--- End quote ---
Oh, I never for a moment thought they were... that kind of villains, I mean. Although of course, in war, any war, especially as that war progresses and intensifies, there's not much room for humanity or dignity or restraint. And.... well, the film is a Mel Gibsom vehicle. He's the most unsubtle guy since....oh, I don't know, - Attila the Hun? Things are either black or white, no shades of grey.You're with us or against us. You're all good, or all bad. That kind of perspective. :-\
Although I was a bit uncertain about a certain church burning depicted in the film. I found it nearly incredible that that scene would have been included if it wasn't historical fact. But it was bogus. Turns out (from Shasta's historical site) that in fact, it is based on the worst atrocities of the Nazis towards the end of WW II. ::)
Do go forth and watch the film! :) I am almost embarrassed to admit that despite the pathos and OTT bloodshed and improbabilities I did find it entertaining. Not just Heath or the grand costumes and scenery either. It's a rippin' tale. Just don't think it portrays Brits in a kind or truthful light, is all. Especially Colonel Malfoy, he's a real devil, he is. Until our pal Mel and his not-so-merry men perform the proper exorcism. ::)
And yes, Meryl, you're so right. :-* Though it's interesting.... in much of the film Heath looks older and more mature than those 18 years. An unusual occurrence, when actors are normally required to play High School kids till they're passed 25! (Thinking Jake in Day After Tomorrow, for instance...)
Mikaela:
Here's a nice thing I thought I'd share. Nice, as in bittersweet, I suppose...
The UK Film Mag Total Film (which I really like) has a section where they interview someone who's relevant for an opening film, by means of lobbing film quotes at them and getting their off-the-cuff response. In the June issue they interview Mackenzie Crook (probably most known to the general filmgoing public as the pirate who keeps losing his eye in "Pirates of the Caribbean"), and this is one of the questions and his answer:
Q: You ever danced with the devil by the pale moonlight?
A: A quote from the Joker. I partied with the Joker in 2003 while making Brothers Grimm. Heath Ledger was a brilliant and impressive man and the world is a sadder place without him. I wish I'd known him better.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Mikaela on May 19, 2008, 02:23:49 pm ---the film is a Mel Gibsom vehicle. He's the most unsubtle guy since....oh, I don't know, - Attila the Hun? Things are either black or white, no shades of grey.You're with us or against us. You're all good, or all bad. That kind of perspective. :-\
--- End quote ---
Hmm ... I can think of a certain U.S. president he'd be well suited to play! :laugh:
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