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FuzzyChanny:
--- Quote from: opinionista on May 08, 2006, 04:17:42 pm ---I didn't see it that way. In my opinion Meredith didn't mean to be rude about it, she was just trying to say that a person who is gay and deaf, beacause that guy was deaf too, might have it harder than anyone else to be accepted in society. I don't recall very well the scene but it was about being happy or something like that, and Meredith focused it from society's point of view. But she didn't know how to convey her thoughts too well, because she was nervous and all, and the whole family misunderstood her. I saw the movie a long time ago but that how I remember that scene.
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The reason she gets so caught up is because the mother (Diane Keaton) says that she tried to make all her sons gay and that she only got lucky with one. Unfortunately, Meredith took that the wrong way (at the end of the day, she's a highly strung person and that's the way it is) and so therefore could not understand how a mother could want that for her sons, in the sense that they will so often not be accepted. However, she then made it seem that she believed being gay to be "abnormal" and insulted the entire family.
opinionista:
--- Quote from: FuzzyChanny on May 08, 2006, 04:25:11 pm ---The reason she gets so caught up is because the mother (Diane Keaton) says that she tried to make all her sons gay and that she only got lucky with one. Unfortunately, Meredith took that the wrong way (at the end of the day, she's a highly strung person and that's the way it is) and so therefore could not understand how a mother could want that for her sons, in the sense that they will so often not be accepted. However, she then made it seem that she believed being gay to be "abnormal" and insulted the entire family.
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Thank you FuzzyChanny. I guess I have to see the movie again!
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: opinionista on May 08, 2006, 04:17:42 pm ---I didn't see it that way. In my opinion Meredith didn't mean to be rude about it, she was just trying to say that a person who is gay and deaf, beacause that guy was deaf too, might have it harder than anyone else to be accepted in society. I don't recall very well the scene but it was about being happy or something like that, and Meredith focused it from society's point of view. But she didn't know how to convey her thoughts too well, because she was nervous and all, and the whole family misunderstood her. I saw the movie a long time ago but that's how I remember that scene.
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That's pretty much how I saw it going, but I hated this scene more than anything else in the movie. It seemed contrived and unlikely and cringe-making. However high-strung or nervous, she would not be that blatantly tactless. And if she were, the family would have good reason to dislike her. It changed her character from someone who was sort of bumbling and annoying but ultimately likeable to someone MUCH less sympathetic. It didn't match the tone of what is basically a fairly light romantic comedy.
FuzzyChanny:
--- Quote from: opinionista on May 08, 2006, 04:53:23 pm ---Thank you FuzzyChanny. I guess I have to see the movie again!
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Not a problem. ;D
serious crayons:
Gay, I just rethought my post above and felt guilty about being so harsh. I didn't love the movie, although part of that was probably that I was there with my 10- and 11-year-old sons, who absolutely hated it, and I felt bad about dragging them to it. And actually, there were parts of it I did like.
I usually try to make an effort not to trash movies that other people in the conversation enjoy. So I apologize for being so outspokenly negative about it.
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