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Ennis, Cassie and the Twists (revised title)
ednbarby:
We know Jack didn't end up ranching with Randall in Lightning Flat because John Twist said about his bringing "another fella" up there "But like most o' Jack's ideas, it never come to pass."
So Jack was thinking about it and mentioned it to his parents in the Spring, but it hadn't happened yet.
Like so many things in the movie, the exact catalyst for Jack's murder (as some would say, if that's what even happened) is ambiguous. But judging from what John Twist said, I lean towards the explanation that he came on to one of those mechanics - maybe by then he and Randall had broken it off and it had been so long for him that he couldn't stand waiting any longer? - just like he came on to Jimbo, and that horrible excuse for a human and his rat bastard buddies beat him to death because of it.
In the story, I think the statement "So now Ennis knew it had been the tire iron" was not a reflection of it being specifically about Randall, but just the realization that Jack needed that contact with other men enough so as to not be able to wait for him and to be potentially careless in the meantime.
David:
We could speculate forever. But why did the screenplay specify Killer Mechanics?
Mechanics imply that they could have work at Newsome Farm Equipment. Gee, Jack was going to divorce Lureen. Could Lureen gone crying to daddy? Old L.D. Newsome had already made the "you want your son to grow up a man?" comment which implies that Jack wasn't a man to him. Could L.D.'s mechanics been the ones who killed Jack? I know, it's a stretch.
Yup, we'll never know if Jack changed his mind or not. Anne Proulx left it too vague for us.
Gee, I guess we got a bit off topic eh? LOL
silkncense:
Staying off topic but --- I read clancypant's discussion & still believe absolutely that it was not over after the lake scene.
1.) Jack absolutely would tell Ennis to his face. As noted, Ennis had no inclination that they would not be together in November so when they parted, 'nothing changed.'
2.) Jack's momentary resolve to end it was broken when Ennis collapsed. I see his refusing to walk away (when it would've been the PERFECT opportunity) as Ennis shoves him & yells, "Get the f... off me!" and instead holding him & saying "Damn you" - like 'I was almost there...'
3.) Also, I see his "It's alright, 's alright" told gently to Ennis as reasurring - just as it was during the 2nd tent scene.
4.) Jack's father would not have said "but it never come to pass..." if he thought Jack & the Rancher had not come to Lightning Flat because his son was dead. He may be an ass - but not that big an ass.
5.) Jack's mother KNEW - and she KNEW that Ennis was the only one. She did not want him to believe there might have been a 'someone' else.
David:
--- Quote from: silkncense on May 10, 2006, 05:33:04 pm ---5.) Jack's mother KNEW - and she KNEW that Ennis was the only one. She did not want him to believe there might have been a 'someone' else.
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Oh I'm sure his mom knew that Ennis was Jacks true love. I'm sure Jack confided in her.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: DavidinHartford on May 10, 2006, 05:37:04 pm ---Oh I'm sure his mom knew that Ennis was Jacks true love. I'm sure Jack confided in her.
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Or even if he didn't, there were those shirts ...
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