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Ennis, Cassie and the Twists (revised title)
kirkmusic:
--- Quote from: starboardlight on May 19, 2006, 12:29:39 pm ---I remember on Oprah, Anne Hathaway saying that how Jack died was obvious, and then Oprah asked "was it not obvious to anyone?" Jake raised his hand. They each interpret the story in their own way.
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I thought when Oprah asked Anne "Did she know?" she was asking if Lureen knew about Jack and Ennis. So when Anne said it was obvious, she was referring to the reactions she had on the phone that we are are so familiar with and appriciative of that let the audience know that yes indeed, Lureen put 2 and 2 together during that conversation and knew she was talking to the person her husband really loved. At least I thought that's what they were talking about.
Sheyne:
--- Quote from: ednbarby on May 18, 2006, 10:23:21 am ---Oprah is a Class A moron. I hope Heath has come to realize, if he didn't already, that she does *not* speak for the audience of this film, or any other group, except maybe Overpaid Arrogant Assholes of America.
Sorry. Can never resist an opportunity where she's concerned. :P You're right - if you miss that, it is like missing the movie. But I think it's safe to say that she never came close to not missing it in the first place.
Oh, and as if that wasn't a stupid enough thing to say/ask, how about when she said that Jake and Heath had given "the performances OF THEIR LIVES?" I *loved* the way Jake looked at Heath for a long time after that, as if they were mind-melding on the same thought: "Jesus, I hope not. We're 25 and 26 years old, for Christ's sake!"
Idiot. Did I mention how much I loathe her?
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Did I mention how much I love you, Barb??
silkncense:
I must say I was disappointed that Oprah did not 'get' the movie (on her first viewing). I was eternally thankful tho' that she showcased the cast & film on her show & praised it & encouraged people to see it. She does have an unprecedented amount of influence on people regarding books, causes, films...
Another person who praised the film as one of the best & advised his vast audience to see it - Howard Stern.
ednbarby:
--- Quote from: kirkmusic on May 21, 2006, 04:19:17 am ---I thought when Oprah asked Anne "Did she know?" she was asking if Lureen knew about Jack and Ennis. So when Anne said it was obvious, she was referring to the reactions she had on the phone that we are are so familiar with and appriciative of that let the audience know that yes indeed, Lureen put 2 and 2 together during that conversation and knew she was talking to the person her husband really loved. At least I thought that's what they were talking about.
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That's how I interpreted it, too, Kirk (though it is all tied in with knowing how Jack really died, so Nipith is right, too). And to agree with Amanda again, if you don't get that she knew about Ennis and Jack by the end of that conversation (and at the point of knowing suggested to Ennis that he "look up" Jack's folks), you've pretty much missed the entire movie, and the last two scenes are certainly utterly lost on you.
No wonder she was so big on Crash. She's another one apparently who needs her movies spoon-fed to her.
ednbarby:
--- Quote from: silkncense on May 21, 2006, 11:08:11 am ---I must say I was disappointed that Oprah did not 'get' the movie (on her first viewing). I was eternally thankful tho' that she showcased the cast & film on her show & praised it & encouraged people to see it. She does have an unprecedented amount of influence on people regarding books, causes, films...
Another person who praised the film as one of the best & advised his vast audience to see it - Howard Stern.
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True, Silk. And I have some respect for Stern because of that. Truthfully, I've found him to have very good taste in films before (er, or at least my taste ;)). He's vehemently defended a couple others that I've loved over the years in the face of great criticism and/or fear from his audience, too. Shakespeare in Love was one of them (ducking the SPR Avengers). Yes, he's a child who regularly degrades women, and I can't abide that second one. But I have a smidgeon of respect in that he at least can recognize a masterpiece when he sees one, and moreover that he ain't afraid to say so even when he knows damned well his demographic will have a coniption fit because of it.
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