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Can't Stand It - by nosunlight
belbbmfan:
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I'm not caught up on this story. I've only read about 20 or so chapter. But after reading all the comments here (very good and insightful ones - thanks for that!), I'm debatting whether I should continue...
Penthesilea:
--- Quote from: belbbmfan on November 05, 2007, 09:09:51 am --- :-\ :-\
I'm not caught up on this story. I've only read about 20 or so chapter. But after reading all the comments here (very good and insightful ones - thanks for that!), I'm debatting whether I should continue...
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You should!
Criticizing a story does not mean it's not a good story, at least not in this case. I still like the story very much and recommend it. Try to see it as a positive sign, that we are so taken in by the story overall, that we care to debate details back and forth. We wouldn't do this if we didn't like the story.
But I have to admit that I'm frustrated by Jack's actions and talk the last few chapters and I hope things will get a twist for the better soonish.
If you are at chapter 20 now, and the story is already up to chap 51, there's a good chance that the things we're discussing right now are not a topic anymore at the point when you will reach chap 51 ;D.
And you would cut yourself off almost 30 very good chapters.
frantic65:
bellbbmfan please keep on reading. I love that this story gives us so much to debate about. In between where you are & the current chapters is a whole lot of really terrific stuff. There were a few times earlier in the story where Ennis was the one that had us shaking our heads wondering what was up. I think the title says it all-it's just sometimes its the characters who can't stand it & sometimes it's the readers! ;) The author always comes through, even if it's in surprising ways.
The guys are taking baby steps to happiness, but they still have a long way to go & they'll just have to tackle one thing at a time. Jack's paranoia is not logical, but that's the nature of paranoia. I always thought Ennis' fear of the tire iron in the OS was the same. Now we have Jack giving way too much power to what the outcome of Bobby finding out would be. He needs to realize that Bobby would more than likely not want to lose the new family he has either (Brenda & Sam & company) & go back to Lureen & LD. Brenda might be our key here, but I don't think she knows how seriously freaked out Jack is about Bobby finding out yet.
There remains throughout the whole story the truth that J&E love each other & want to be together & I have never gotten to the point where I ever thought otherwise.
Anyway, this is one story that I highly recommend & I think everyone who has been commenting on it here feels the same way.
cwby30:
Mornin'.
Well, keep on reading!!! Don't let our discussion dissuade you. You may have a completely different feeling by the time you get to the end of the current chapter. And, everyone has an opinion, which is one of the great things about this forum, ennisjack and BrokebackSlash... we can discuss without making personal attacks which have nothing to do with the topic.
When you've caught up, return with your insights. We'll be interested to read them.
Thanks again.
mariez:
Amanda - Something I forgot in my last post - I believe the farm already had the name when Jack bought it - kind of an ironic, bittersweet sign, I guess!
--- Quote from: Penthesilea on November 05, 2007, 06:19:36 am ---No, I don't think Jack fears Bobby would want to go back to Lureen and LD. But what he fears is that Bobby, in a first (?) angry, hateful, exaggerated reaction would run for the phone - first chance he'd get ;) - and tell Lureen/LD everything straightaway. And LD/Lureen wouldn't stand for their son/grandson growing up in the household of a queer (let alone two, if Ennis moved in). So Jack fears LD/Lureen would take some kind of action against him (from fighting for custody to send out hired killers).
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Yeah, I remember Jack saying something like that now, Chrissi. But it still doesn't make sense to me. Why call Lureen and L.D. if he doesn't want to go back there? What's the point? Just to get Jack in trouble or make him "change his ways?" I don't get it. And I think you make a good point that Bobby is still a child - the impressions he's been given by L.D. are not yet set in stone - he's still at an age when he can be influenced for the better. And as much as I realize that Jack is falling into the trap that many divorced parents do and that it's understandable - he's got all kinds of guilt going, he's still letting Bobby control him. And you just can't let a ten year old control you. Someone has to be in charge and that someone has to be the parent. If Bobby has such serious issues that Jack can't handle - if he's full of that much hate - well, I don't know what to say. He needs some kind of professional help. Besides, doesn't Jack have the fact that L.D. abused Bobby as something he can hold over him? That's how he forced Lureen and L.D. to give him up in the first place. And you're right - sooner or later L.D. and Lureen are going to find out - then what?
Fran - you're right, paranoia isn't logical! But as much as Jack told Ennis that he's not making the fear of losing Bobby more important than Ennis's fear of losing his girls - well, when it comes right down to it - he is. There is no difference. If Jack's fears are valid and understandable - then so were Ennis's all those years. Ennis didn't know how Alma would react if he had moved in with Jack after the divorce- at that point she very well could have made it so that he never saw the girls. And it's this lack of understanding on Jack's part that is bothering me. Ennis will forever have his paranoia held over his head - he's so guilty about what he did to Jack now that he wouldn't dare call Jack on anything he's doing that doesn't make sense. And that's the part that bothers me. There's no equal footing here. But, maybe we'll get to the point where Jack admits this, I don't know...... he doesn't seem to be seeing that right now, but, of course, things change all the time!
Fabienne - Please continue reading. Everyone is right - it's a great story! And I would love to hear your insights!
Marie
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