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serious crayons:
Sorry to drag this out, but I had this comment all written yesterday and somehow forgot to hit "post." So here's the last I'll say on that subject.  :)



--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on May 12, 2021, 04:02:30 pm ---No. I think comparing running or winning a race to receiving an academic diploma or degree is comparing apples to oranges (except metaphorically).

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Both are forms of effort (studying/running) made by an individual (student/contestant), within a publicly visible semi-standardized structure (school/track), with a staff providing assistance to the overall effort (teachers/race organizers), to meet a goal (winning/graduating) and be recognized for it (trophy/diploma).

There are obvious differences in specific details -- and graduating from a school is more complex and multifaceted than finishing a race -- but they follow the same pattern.

So we'll just have agree to disagree!  :)

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: CellarDweller on May 12, 2021, 08:34:13 pm ---I tend to feel the same way as Jeff.  Since I've had no kids, it's not something I tend to consider.  I do know some people who are childless and will complain about the money that comes out of their paychecks to fund the schools.  I feel that if I benefited by others paying taxes when I went to school, it's now my turn to pay to benefit others.

Besides, the youngsters who graduated while I paid taxes may one day impact my life in some way, so it would've been to my benefit anyway.
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Agreed. I felt the same way before I had kids and I feel the same way now that my kids are out of school. People who complain about helping pay for schools are extremely short sighted, for the reasons you mentioned:

-- All public school graduates benefited from somebody's tax dollars, so this is paying it forward and its stingy to object to doing your part to keep the system going.

-- Kids in school today will someday have enormous power over your life, not just because they'll be running governments and companies and so on, but because their earnings will support your Social Security and Medicare. It's directly within your own interests to help them become as successful as possible. If they don't and the systems are struggling, they're the ones who will decide whether to cut benefits.

If only we could pick and choose where our tax dollars went! I have a few I'd like to cross off the list, myself. But the only power we have (except in voter referendums) is electing officials we think will represent our preferences, or lobbying them to do so.

Sason:


Madonna-------><-----------Chuck's friends

Sason:
Nena-------><-----------Chuck's friends

serious crayons:
Wait, which is who in those illustrations? I don't know much about Nena, but I'm fairly certain Madonna would be the one doing the punching.

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