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Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: serious crayons on August 29, 2022, 06:29:26 pm ---I can't decide if that seems fair or not. It kind of punishes people in ill health and rewards people like me who rarely take sick days.
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I wouldn't say so. We all had 10 sick days, and if you were entitled to, say, 20 vacation days, then after the change you had 30 days to use however you wanted.
--- Quote ---Well, her policies and behavior sound unreasonable. But her outfit sounds OK to me. Or is the skirt too fancy to be "casual"?
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Knee-high boots and a short leather skirt (I was tempted to call it a miniskirt because that's what it looked like to me) qualify as "business casual" in MN?
CellarDweller:
--- Quote from: serious crayons on August 29, 2022, 06:25:23 pm ---Shouts and Murmurs is the title of a regular humor column in the New Yorker.
Oops! Meant to say "fresh."
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:laugh: :laugh: I didn't realize you had said free instead of fresh.
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: CellarDweller on August 29, 2022, 09:33:09 pm ---
:laugh: :laugh: I didn't realize you had said free instead of fresh.
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Me neither! I've been doing that these days -- typing a word that kind of sounds like the word I intend. :o
serious crayons:
--- Quote from: Jeff Wrangler on August 29, 2022, 09:32:50 pm ---Knee-high boots and a short leather skirt (I was tempted to call it a miniskirt because that's what it looked like to me) qualify as "business casual" in MN?
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No, business casual here would be khakis and a white shirt, but that's mainly for men and it gets kind of boring.
Women have a bit more leeway -- they have more, or have to have more, depending on how you look at it -- and miniskirts and boots can work. Not super casual, but potentially inoffensive depending on what kind of each. I would say knee-high boots: Fine. Leather skirt: ehh, not my taste but whatever. Short leather skirt? I'd say that depends.
Yes:
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Seems to me the main violations of business casual are less about short skirts and boots than about sweat pants and a T-shirt with holes in it.
Jeff Wrangler:
--- Quote from: serious crayons on August 30, 2022, 12:00:25 am ---Women have a bit more leeway -- they have more, or have to have more, depending on how you look at it -- and miniskirts and boots can work. Not super casual, but potentially inoffensive depending on what kind of each. I would say knee-high boots: Fine. Leather skirt: ehh, not my taste but whatever. Short leather skirt? I'd say that depends.
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Maybe it's just a cultural thing, but her outfit that morning did and does not qualify as business casual here. Appropriate for a nightclub, yes, but for the office? No. It's hard to tell now with so many people working from home, but in the past most women wore pants and a blouse. Women in management usually wore a suit (jacket, blouse, and skirt).
Jeans are verboten. However, here's the thing. Certainly my employer's policy is "no jeans," but what that really means is "no blue denim." For decades, even long before I came to my current job, my trousers of choice for work from about October to April have been corduroy pants from Lands End. These trousers are made exactly like jeans, rivets, pockets, and all (Lands End has even described them as jeans, IIRC), but because they're corduroy and not blue denim, nobody notices.
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