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CellarDweller:
Hiya Shasta.

I wish I could figure something out as well, but nothing really feasible comes to mind.

Shakesthecoffecan:
That was a really good poem Chuck. It really leteralized that mans experence, puts it in terms that hit home.

It is a shame with all the wealth we  have in this country we cannot take care of those who can;t take care of theirselves, we only make a half hearted attempt that creates a system that enslaves people to welfare for generations. We make health care a business and if there is someone without isnurance, they are just SOL.

But hell, I don't have the answers, I can't even wrap my head around the problem completely.

loneleeb3:

--- Quote from: Shakestheground on October 17, 2007, 10:46:38 am ---That was a really good poem Chuck. It really leteralized that mans experence, puts it in terms that hit home.

It is a shame with all the wealth we  have in this country we cannot take care of those who can;t take care of theirselves, we only make a half hearted attempt that creates a system that enslaves people to welfare for generations. We make health care a business and if there is someone without isnurance, they are just SOL.

But hell, I don't have the answers, I can't even wrap my head around the problem completely.

--- End quote ---
Well, I know this probably won't be a popular thought. However, there is a lot to be said about accountability and personal responsibility. This is the greatest nation on earth in that everyone has the opportunity to better themselves if they choose to.
It's not easy and there are a lot of roadblocks that can be downright unfair. I just don'tt think it is the Governments responsibility to to be all things to all people. What makes the kid who grew up in the ghetto to a teenage mother and then becomes a CEO of a company so different from the other kid in the same housing project who chose a life of crime? He wanted better for himself and made the sacrifices to get where he wanted to be.
I just think in many cases people are where they chose to be.

Shakesthecoffecan:

--- Quote from: loneleeb3 on October 17, 2007, 10:53:39 am ---Well, I know this probably won't be a popular thought. However, there is a lot to be said about accountability and personal responsibility. This is the greatest nation on earth in that everyone has the opportunity to better themselves if they choose to.
It's not easy and there are a lot of roadblocks that can be downright unfair. I just don'tt think it is the Governments responsibility to to be all things to all people. What makes the kid who grew up in the ghetto to a teenage mother and then becomes a CEO of a company so different from the other kid in the same housing project who chose a life of crime? He wanted better for himself and made the sacrifices to get where he wanted to be.
I just think in many cases people are where they chose to be.

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I agree with you Rich, I know we live in a free country, we don;t have some authoritarian government telling us what to do, people do overcome the obsitcles of their situation and better theirselves, and I am all for that. People should.

At the same time, I can't understand why our tax dollars go to help people in other countries when we could be taking care of our own.

But please don;t be afraid to speak your mind. The debate in this country has gotten so polarized people gone forget how to speak to each other.

CellarDweller:

--- Quote from: Shakestheground on October 17, 2007, 11:03:26 am ---But please don;t be afraid to speak your mind. The debate in this country has gotten so polarized people gone forget how to speak to each other.
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I agree!  I love debate, don't engage in it often, but I do love it.  I think it gives a "wrong" impression of me.

I think people see me as "funny" and "light" but I do like strong debates at times.

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