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delalluvia:

--- Quote from: ineedcrayons on October 19, 2007, 12:57:30 am ---Execution costs more than life imprisonment.

http://www.mindspring.com/~phporter/econ.html


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It depends on how old the criminal is.  If he's an older man, it's more expensive to execute him.  If he's a younger man and liable to live for 60+ years, then it's not.

Plus, it isn't about the expense.  There are starving people who have done nothing wrong whatsoever who deserve my tax dollars more than some sociopath who is never going to reform.

injest:
One thing that is never brought up in this debate is the executioner. I would not want anyone I know to be the executioner. It has to be a hard thing to live with...I would HOPE it would be a hard thing to live with.

No life should end without some regret...even if the only regret is the person who is dying wasted his chances.

 :-\

I think a lot about this when I hear people talking about torture...all the focus is on the person tortured...but I can't imagine being married to a man that would/could leash a naked man and torture him and then come home and play with the kids....EE!

serious crayons:

--- Quote from: delalluvia on October 19, 2007, 01:15:46 am ---It depends on how old the criminal is.  If he's an older man, it's more expensive to execute him.  If he's a younger man and liable to live for 60+ years, then it's not.
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Well, again, studies indicate otherwise. To requote a couple of excerpts from the material I already quoted above:


--- Quote ---"A 1991 study of the Texas criminal justice system estimated the cost of appealing capital murder at $2,316,655. In contrast, the cost of housing a prisoner in a Texas maximum security prison single cell for 40 years is estimated at $750,000." (Punishment and the Death Penalty, edited by Robert M. Baird and Stuart E. Rosenbaum 1995 p.109 )

"Florida calculated that each execution there costs some $3.18 million. If incarceration is estimated to cost $17000/year, a comparable statistic for life in prison of 40 years would be $680,000."
(The Geography of Execution... The Capital Punishment Quagmire in America, Keith Harries and Derral Cheatwood 1997 p.6)
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They're talking about 40 years, not 60. But do the math -- assuming these studies are correct (and I grabbed this quickly off the internet, but there was plenty to choose from offering the same conclusion), 60 years of incarceration does not cost more than execution.


--- Quote ---Plus, it isn't about the expense.  There are starving people who have done nothing wrong whatsoever who deserve my tax dollars more than some sociopath who is never going to reform.

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Of course they do. Yet by paying for an execution, you're spending more of your tax dollars and have less left over to give to the starving people.

delalluvia:

--- Quote from: ineedcrayons on October 19, 2007, 08:23:59 am ---Well, again, studies indicate otherwise. To requote a couple of excerpts from the material I already quoted above:

They're talking about 40 years, not 60. But do the math -- assuming these studies are correct (and I grabbed this quickly off the internet, but there was plenty to choose from offering the same conclusion), 60 years of incarceration does not cost more than execution.
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The study is over 16 years old now.  Considering health care fo inmates as they get older gets exponentially more expensive, the economy has not gotten better and technology has advanced, I would like to see a newer study.


--- Quote ---Of course they do. Yet by paying for an execution, you're spending more of your tax dollars and have less left over to give to the starving people.
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Not really.  The less people to guard less people on death row means less overhead for the penal system and thus...[shrug] my focus as a taxpayers can be on social services and not providing room, board, health services, entertainment, conjugal visits what have you for convicted murderers.

Also, they have been permanently taken out of society and will never be a threat to anyone else.  Yes, accidents do happen.  Serial killers, rapists and child molesters do accidentally get released from prison.  The death sentence puts that possibility to rest.

souxi:
For peadohphiles yes. I don,t care about "research shows this" and "studies show that", the only fit place for a peadophile is a hole in the ground, preferably a cesspit. If anyone hurt my children I,d happily do it myself, np atall.

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