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serious crayons:

--- Quote from: HerrKaiser on October 19, 2007, 05:40:03 pm ---Interestingly, all these points are used frequently by anti-abortion proponents. I wonder if the strong feelings here against capital punishment also align behind the pro-life people?

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Not for me they don't. Because the central issue in abortion is not whether it's OK to kill a person, it's whether an unborn fetus constitutes a person.

(Guess you figured the thread was getting dull and it was time to liven things up with a little controversy, hunh?  ;) ;D)

loneleeb3:

--- Quote from: ineedcrayons on October 19, 2007, 06:40:10 pm ---Not for me they don't. Because the central issue in abortion is not whether it's OK to kill a person, it's whether an unborn fetus constitutes a person.

(Guess you figured the thread was getting dull and it was time to liven things up with a little controversy, hunh?  ;) ;D)



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Oh what the heck.
I'll just add to the malestrom!
I am Pro-Life in terms of Abortion.
I see no reason to kill an innocent child for the sake of convienience! :)

Mikaela:

--- Quote from: HerrKaiser on October 19, 2007, 05:40:03 pm ---Interestingly, all these points are used frequently by anti-abortion proponents. I wonder if the strong feelings here against capital punishment also align behind the pro-life people?

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I thought it was the other way around, in the US at least, though I have no statistics immediately at hand to prove it.  I.e. that those strongly in favor of the death penalty by and large are equally strongly and vehemently opposed to women's access to abortion. Personally I think that this view on abortion many a time may have more to do with the wish to limit and control women and women's sexuality than with any concern for preserving human lives and with respecting the inviolability of human life on general principle. Clamoring simultaneously for the death penalty and against women's access to abortion points in that direction.

However I do agree that sentiments and arguments along the lines of my view on the death penalty may be entirely and sincerely relevant for someone who is opposed to abortion.

Perhaps there should be a separate poll on the views on abortion?

Shasta542:

--- Quote from: loneleeb3 on October 19, 2007, 06:43:17 pm ---Oh what the heck.
I'll just add to the malestrom!
I am Pro-Life in terms of Abortion.
I see no reason to kill an innocent child for the sake of convienience! :)

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Ditto.

ifyoucantfixit:


        Well I feel that you Scott are speaking one thing and those of us that disagree with you are speaking another..You are speaking of a Utopian civilization..where we all were so advanced, that we didnt feel the
base responses..We would never kill those who sought to kill us..We would never punish people by severity
of death.  That is all well and good and high minded.  However we dont live in that world..We live in this one.
The world of sadists and masochists and evil killers...They are a group that are unreachable and unredeemable.
Why should we then be forced to" keep" them alive after they commit these heinous crimes against often the
weakest among us...I dont agree with you, and never will..they need to go..they have as sioux said forfeited the
right to be a member of society..I guess I am not so perfect and pure a person as could say they
didnt deserve it because it would make society an equal of him....I disagree...the same as if a rabid dog came into
my yard, it is incurable, and i would have to do away with it....  Its a simple matter of protection....

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