Thanks jstephens9, Phillip, and others!!!
I think that this is OK here and can continue for those who want to do so!
I have realized that gay men here, as I am a gay man too, feel free to discuss this... now. Of course at times, it hurts! We can and do help each other, and others by talking FREELY!!
I am proud that this discussion is helping, in many ways. To many persons!
It is great to talk REAL!! ?? Let's continue...
hugs!!