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Beans and Crazies by montana crows
belbbmfan:
I can agree with everyone here. Easy huh? :)
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Ok, Chapter 04 is where it turned into an S&M novel. Didn't see that comin'. :laugh:
I found it a little hard to believe Prazacz listened and jack told him what Ennis wanted done. And then he gave him advice on it. :o (Ok, I just thought that was a little far fetched is all.)
I can see many folks mighta stopped reading here. Back in April 2006 when this was written, most folks were lookin' for happy stories and alternatives at that time. Although this has taken a direction I hadn't thought it would, I understand it, and am gonna stick with it. It will be interesting to see if Ennis works this out or not.
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Yes, i tend to skip these parts of the story, or read through them very fast. I don't quite 'get' this part of their relationship. But I don't worry too much about it. I love the realism of the tough ranch life. And they feel very 'canon' to me. Rough-mannered and rough-spoken.
SPOILER
And one of the reasons I will continue to read this story, is Joanna. I find her a very interesting character. I hope we can learn more about her and her history. I love it when an author creates a great OC.
*off to read chapter 70
SFEnnisSF:
More Spoilers...
Ok, I've read through Chapter 07 for the evening. After the initial shock of the S&M chapter :laugh:, it's turned into a fantastic and well written story.
I'm enjoying it very much. Looking forward to continuing to read more. I'm real hooked now! :D
nic:
--- Quote from: belbbmfan on October 09, 2007, 01:44:12 am ---I can agree with everyone here. Easy huh? :)
Yes, i tend to skip these parts of the story, or read through them very fast. I don't quite 'get' this part of their relationship. But I don't worry too much about it. ....
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I'm pretty much the same, but I'd really like to have a plausible explanation for the dark stuff. We all know Ennis has a violent streak but this tends to be him lashing out becuase of his inner turmoil. In B&C, it's not him lashing out but asking the most important person in his life to be violent towards him... so very puzzling. I can understand why Jack goes along with it, because he loves Ennis so will do it even though he doesn't know why. I can't see M_C elaborating on it any further. I don't think it's anything truly S&M-based, or even a religious self-flagellation thing. I'm truly stumped, but granted it does give an intriguing angle to the story to muse over.
Oh, & I agree that Joanna is an excellent OC. I love to read great female characters. I couldn't blame her for getting a little besotted with eithr of the guys & her reaction to inadvertently spotting them in flagrante was priceless !
Brown Eyes:
--- Quote from: sfericsf on October 09, 2007, 12:08:22 am ---
Ok, Chapter 04 is where it turned into an S&M novel. Didn't see that comin'. :laugh:
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Hi Eric,
Well, this is exactly what all the discussion here is about. These "dark" moments pop up here and there in this story... sort of out of nowhere. I really enjoy the vast majority of the chapters in this story except for the odd "dark" and S/M type moments.
You've now encountered the first example.
I'd really like to understand better what this implies about Ennis's character in this particular story. And, unlike nic, I don't really understand why Jack goes through with it in these scenarios.
But, again, this story is definitely well-worth reading and well-written.
mariez:
--- Quote from: belbbmfan on October 09, 2007, 01:44:12 am ---And one of the reasons I will continue to read this story, is Joanna. I find her a very interesting character. I hope we can learn more about her and her history. I love it when an author creates a great OC.
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Yes! Joanna ranks as one of my favorite OCs ever. There is so much to explore about her - and her presence, along with Grace's (and what a great job she's done developing her character) create some really interesting dynamics.
--- Quote from: atz75 on October 09, 2007, 11:16:54 am ---I'd really like to understand better what this implies about Ennis's character in this particular story. And, unlike nic, I don't really understand why Jack goes through with it in these scenarios.
But, again, this story is definitely well-worth reading and well-written.
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Yes, I would like to understand better, too. But, as I've said, I hope that Grace's knowledge will now put an end to it.
I agree with nic that these punishments are not truly S&M based - I wouldn't use that term to describe them. There is punishment - but I don't see an element of enjoyment, sexual or otherwise. Ennis may feel he deserves it or needs it or whatever, but it hasn't come through to me that he's enjoying it. And Jack definitely is not enjoying any aspect of it. I do think the latest interlude was a form of S&M - and while I don't mind that generally (I love TTTB, for example) - that one didn't really work for me. But, I agree with all of you, these things don't take away from my overall enjoyment of a really excellent and well-written story. I'm already anxious for the next chapter.
Marie
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