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Kelda:
--- Quote from: DavidinHartford on January 03, 2007, 04:51:44 pm --- Ah! here is the trick! If you arrive at your lay-over Airport and don't leave the concourse, you don't need to go thru security again. You only get screened at the departing Airport. Everything inside the inner concourse (beyond the security checkpoint) is considered a safe zone, or a "sterile" area we call it. So just don't exit to go outside for a smoke. Then you'll need to come back in and go thru Security again.
That is how the 9-11 terrorist got on the planes in Boston. They departed from Portland Maine where they observed slack security. (Pre-TSA) Once they got to Bostons Logan airport they knew they could walk right over to the next plane without going thru Logans tougher security. This is why ALL Airports regardless of size must enforce the same rules, no exceptions.
But you are right Jeff. If you are unfamiliar with the airport, the plane change can have you facing a long and complicated maze to your next gate.
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David these tips would be great on a seperate thread, so they are easy to find...
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Jeff Wrangler:
David and Leslie,
Actually, while I don't mean to argue, Logan/Boston was exactly what I had in mind--though I must clarify and say that the last time I traveled by plane was the summer of 2004, so I suppose it's possible things have been changed at Logan. But:
That summer I flew from Philadelphia to Provincetown, USAir from Philadelphia to Boston, change to Cape Air for the short hop down to P'town. I've done that many times since 1987 (it's great because it's possible to have breakfast in Philadelphia and lunch in Provincetown). The two airlines were (and probably still are) located in different terminals at Logan. Going up, it was necessary to clear security in Philadelphia, and again in Logan. Coming home, it was necessary to clear security in Provincetown, and again in Logan.
It was unavoidable both ways because you had to use two different terminals--leave one secure area, go to another terminal, and go through security again. The checkpoints were (are?) at the head of the terminals, and the concourse was (is?) not secure. And if your flight from Provincetown is late--mine was the year before, in 2003 (fog)--an hour isn't enough.
So I would never book a connection less than an hour, especially if I had to chage airlines. But, sure, if you don't have to leave a secure area to make your connection, no problem. But if you do. ...
(Hey, David, how long do you have to be on the job before you can get transferred to P'town? ;) ;D )
--- Quote ---From Philadelphia, you should be able to get a direct flight to Denver.
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Leslie, that was the first thing I determined--yes, there a number of direct flights via a number of airlines. ;D Thanks!
David:
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David:
Hi Jeff,
Hmm, I hadn't thought about the Cape Air flights. Were those even TSA people screening them? At Bradley, even the small planes (commercial ones) use the main terminal.
A transfer to Provincetown? LOL ! Now your talking!
David :)
MaineWriter:
In my journeys, I have noticed how many airports, especially older ones (and Logan falls into this category) have real challenges in retrofitting their physical plant to meet today's security requirements. I don't know if it was by accident or design, but Logan has five separate terminals, each with their own security screening checkpoint.
There have been times that I have flown into Logan and they have taken us from the plane, by shuttle bus, to our next terminal. But usually that is when I have been on a little plane (ie, coming from Portland) and transferring to a bigger plane. I also believe that terminals B, C, an D are all connected by walkways that are behind the screening area (or in the sterile area, as David would say). But it is a hike from B to D, that's for sure!
Compare that with Denver International with one terminal and one security area. Once through, you take a subway to the various concourses. All the concourses have restaurants and shopping...it is a great set up. Atlanta (Hartsfield) is the same way, but I don't like it as much because it is so crowded.
Another airport I avoid, because it has problems like Logan, is Dallas.
I was somewhere not too long ago (Kansas City, maybe?) and all the restaurants and shops were outside the security area. I could see what the original plan had been and how they had to modify the building to accomodate the screening procedures. But from a traveler point of view, it was a major pain in the neck!
L
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