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Gay subjects in movies??
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: Artiste on February 10, 2008, 09:00:13 pm ---You are right!
You must see it, since it is such a wonderful film!
Yes, they, these actors, were both said as you say.
When I lived in Hollywood, Los Angeles for many years and many times, it was said that Sal's murder was NOT solved!
Is it now, does you or anyone know??
Hugs!!
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From Wikipedia:
"...By 1976 Mineo's career seemed to be turning around again. Playing the role of a gay burglar in a San Francisco run of the stage comedy P.S. Your Cat Is Dead, he received substantial publicity from many positive reviews and moved on to Los Angeles with the play. Arriving home after a rehearsal on February 12, 1976, Mineo was stabbed to death in the alley behind a West Hollywood apartment building. He was 37 years old. He was stabbed just once, not repeatedly as first reported, but the blade struck his heart, leading to immediate and massive internal bleeding. Mineo was interred in the Cemetery of the Gate of Heaven in Hawthorne, New York.
According to Warren Johansson and William A. Percy's Outing: Shattering the Conspiracy of Silence, he was murdered under circumstances that suggested "a homosexual motive". Investigators reportedly found gay pornography in his home. Mineo identified himself as bisexual in a 1972 interview, published after his death, but his biography notes that he dated men exclusively in the last years of his short life.
A career criminal named Lionel Ray Williams was later sentenced to life in prison for killing Mineo.[citation needed] Although there was considerable confusion relating to what witnesses had seen in the darkness the night Mineo was murdered, Williams was reported to have boasted of the crime, which turned out to be a botched mugging. Williams claimed he had no idea who Mineo was. Williams was paroled in 1990, after serving 12 years, but was jailed numerous times afterwards for parole violations..."
Such a shame. He was sooooo good looking. My mother thought he was hot.
Artiste:
Thanks!
I did not know that that Williams was thought to be the one who murdered Sal!!
Was that Williams anti-gay?
Did he continue to harm gays after his prison term, and even before did he to others gays??
And where is he to-day?
I wonder if we ever get such replies??
...
I figured that Sal was a brilliant actor!! And which films he did you liked??
Hugs!
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: Artiste on February 11, 2008, 12:34:19 am ---Thanks!
I did not know that that Williams was thought to be the one who murdered Sal!!
Was that Williams anti-gay?
Did he continue to harm gays after his prison term, and even before did he to others gays??
And where is he to-day?
I wonder if we ever get such replies??
...
I figured that Sal was a brilliant actor!! And which films he did you liked??
Hugs!
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Who knows if the killer was even homophobic? He claims he didn't even know who Sal was and it was just a random mugging gone wrong.
I don't have a favorite Sal Mineo movie. I just remember seeing him in old movies and my mother pointed out how good looking he was and wasn't it a shame he was dead and I agreed completely.
Artiste:
Thanks!
Sure would like to read Sal interview where he says that he is gay!
Wonder if any clip of that?
Or any written article on the internet or in a newspaper??
Hugs!
oilgun:
--- Quote from: Artiste on February 11, 2008, 12:55:11 am ---Thanks!
Sure would like to read Sal interview where he says that he is gay!
Wonder if any clip of that?
Or any written article on the internet or in a newspaper??
Hugs!
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I love that film with a passion! Even though Plato (Mineo) was looking for a father figure there was definitely sexual tension between him and Jim (Dean). According to this article there was a lot going on both on and off the set...
Here's a link to an interesting article called: Finding the Father: A Psychoanalytic Study of
Rebel without a Cause
http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/00/5/finding.html
An excerpt:
During the filming of Rebel, sexual tensions among Nicholas Ray, Natalie Wood, James Dean and Sal Mineo eerily reflected the repressed sexual desires inherent among the film's characters. According to Spoto, rumors "circulated of an erotic relationship between Dean and Ray...The suggestion, however unverifiable, is not outlandish: it is easy, for example, to imagine Ray making love to the image of himself...It is equally understandable if Jimmy had tried to please another respected mentor-father" (220). Dean had never recovered from his father's abandonment of him after the death of his mother, and he sought a father figure in Ray.
Dean, however, was not the only actor with whom Ray purportedly had an illicit affair. "Early during the preparations," writes Spoto, "Ray...easily seduced sixteen-year-old Natalie Wood, and throughout the production kept her in the thrall of a fierce sexual passion...She had already endured an unhappy home life with her mother...and father" (218-19). Both actors seemed intent on gaining their surrogate father's attention.
Another anecdote comes from Stewart Stern, the screenwriter of Rebel, who claims that Ray was "'the maypole around whom everyone needy and dependent swirled and danced, and he enthroned himself as guru at the Chateau Marmont, where he seemed to possess the souls of James Dean and Natalie Wood'"(qtd. in Spoto 219). Faye Nuell Mayo, Wood's stand-in and double, also recalled that Ray's Sunday afternoon gatherings at the hotel were "'sometimes a bit wild, because everyone was avidly competing for the director's attention and approval'" (219). Wood and Dean, like Judy and Jim, were searching for a father who would help initiate them into the symbolic world.
If there is sexual tension between Plato and Jim in the film, then sexual tension between Mineo and Dean was also present on the set. "'I realized later that I was homo-sexually attracted to him,'" Mineo later recalled of Dean. "'When he showed love to me, when he said it, that did it. He was really overwhelming'" (qtd. in Spoto 220). Although nothing sexual ever transpired between the two actors, Plato's obvious desire of Jim, both sexual and familial, is indicative of Mineo's attraction toward, and deep respect for, Dean.
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