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The Twist family studies the Gospel of John
Wayne:
--- Quote from: injest on January 06, 2008, 01:40:35 pm --- :-X :-X
talk about busted!!
but if he was still chosen?
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:D Must not have been too bad ...
When Jesus and Nathaniel are first introduced, Jesus says "Behold, an Israelite in whom there is no guile!"
So maybe Jesus was genuinely congratulating Nathaniel for his piety under the fig tree... or maybe he was teasing him! :laugh:
So odd that it's not really explained. You get the impression that everybody knew what really happened, so they didn't bother to write it down ... ??? ::)
injest:
--- Quote from: wdj on January 06, 2008, 01:46:34 pm --- :D Must not have been too bad ...
When Jesus and Nathaniel are first introduced, Jesus says "Behold, an Israelite in whom there is no guile!"
So maybe Jesus was genuinely congratulating Nathaniel for his piety under the fig tree... or maybe he was teasing him! :laugh:
So odd that it's not really explained. You get the impression that everybody knew what really happened, so they didn't bother to write it down ... ??? ::)
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*nodding*
yes, isn't there incidents like that in our daily lifes? we assume everyone understands but in a few years it is forgotten and people don't understand anymore what we are talking about.
ifyoucantfixit:
Well oh learned sir...i am afraid I will have to disagree with that one....certainly we dont think that
everything in the Bible is logical....? Not to my way of thinking for sure...
Don't get me started......
Wayne:
--- Quote from: ifyoucantfixit on January 06, 2008, 02:46:44 pm ---certainly we dont think that everything in the Bible is logical....?
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No, you're right about that for sure !!! ;)
OK well here we are in John 2 at the wedding in Cana. A mixed-sex wedding probably. Not that there's anything wrong with that. ::)
So John (or whoever wrote John) says they run out of wine at the wedding party, and Jesus's mother points this out to him.
It's maybe sort of interesting that by the time John (or whoever wrote this) got around to writing this, Jesus's mother was living with him (John). Presumably it was she who told him this story. So this is one of the few things we hear from Mary herself about Jesus.
Wayne:
So Jesus tells some servants to fill six stone water jars -- the kind used by the Jews for ceremonial washing, each holding from twenty to thirty gallons -- with water. Then he tells them to draw some out and take it to banquet. The master of the banquet is very impressed with the quality of the wine.
John notes (as Mary must be telling him) that this is Jesus's first "sign." So this event takes place very early in, maybe even before, Jesus's ministry. This is also one of few stories in John that take place up north in Galilee rather than in Judea.
Most of the rest of the stories in John seem to begin with "Jesus and his disciples were on their way to Jerusalem for the passover when all of a sudden ..."
To me this seems to suggest that the writer is somebody who only sees Jesus when he comes down to Jerusalem for the passover. ??? Which would not be the apostle John, since he is with Jesus during all of Jesus's ministry in Galilee. But I'll try to keep an open mind as we proceed !! ;)
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