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Ombudsman for BetterMost Poll
ifyoucantfixit:
one person in particular stands out to me, and a couple more would be good choices as well. i will post their name
whenever you make the decision to take recommendations....
dot-matrix:
--- Quote from: Phillip Dampier on January 15, 2008, 04:36:08 pm --- I agree that choosing someone that is part of a recognizeable subset of the community probably would pose a higher risk, but even some of those people can, if strong-willed sufficiently, set aside any inherent bias and engage solely independent of their social connections.
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Hmmmm possibly, :-\ but even some moderators have trouble seperating their own personal prejudices, likes and dislikes and playing fair. It's human nature. We do not always rise to our higher selfs much as we would like too. Hmmm I definitely agree someone with no obvious affiliations would need to be chosen if this had even a chance of succeeding because even if one who belong to a so-called "sub-group" were able to be fair minded and unbiased they would still be vulnerable to attack on that basis by those not satisfied with their findings. That makes Bel Air's suggestion of a group, perhaps a Peer Review Board instead of an Ombudsman seem more effective. Perhaps six elected officials serving as a triumverate with each member serving 6 months and elections once a year.
Artiste:
Wow, did not vote yet, and, but thought immediately to say no, and now would be pleased to vote yes!!
No men yet except Phillip and I; pray many will add their thoughts and/or votes!!
May I suggest:
Great idea for time:Terms would be needed. Terms are done in Canada, I do not know if that is so where this word (country started from.
To me, it is required too that we have more than one on here, since we are different groups: one for gay men, one for lesbians, one for ladies issues, one for straights, one for bi-s, one for others???
That would be six, and since this is Phillip's site (?) then he as the final vote if disputes are not solved before that!
I would like each ombudsman (ombudswoman, ombuds-person) to take the name he/she/or other selects,
as nominative. I would select to be called ombudsman-gay, for instance, if I was on.)
The first solving-effort would be individual: between the complainant/request-person and his or her ombusman/woman/person. If not solved there, then the complainant/request-person would ask for a 3rd person, that being another ombudsman/woman/person. The 3rd level, would be maybe all the ombudsman/woman/person, with Phillip to vote if there is a tie!! Is that too much??
I think that the comments are great!! And aim that will help Bettermost to be Betterbest, since we are already best with all the members so far, with the moderators, and with Philip and others sharing all too!!
Don't be shy to contradict me or ask questions from me... you and you all here!! Bienvenue, welcome!
Hugs!!
BelAir:
--- Quote from: Phillip Dampier on January 15, 2008, 04:36:08 pm ---Most enterprises have a single ombudsman to handle things. Since we don't have an indication of needing one as of yet, I haven't gotten into further defining the role/term/etc.
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Okay, understandable.
Just to explain my own thought process... in trying to decide whether I felt an ombudsman was needed, I was trying to think forward to what life would be like with/for that person... and I was sort of wondering if having one might somehow make things 'worse' rather than better... (worse in quotes, because I am not certain a problem exists)
I do really appreciate it (globally and personally) that questions such as these are posted in a poll...
I was worrying that one person may potentially get overwhelmed, be accused of playing favorites, etc... hence the suggestion of more than one person... And if I continue with this line of thinking, it stands to reason that if complaints were submitted anonymously, no one would be accused of favorites, and maybe it would be random who dealt with which complaint... On the other hand, the best 'critiquing' system I have ever seen was in a college seminar class where we all critiqued and graded each other, signed our names, and our reviews were public... You had to "own" your opinion, in essence... FWIW, I don't know anyone that has ever been involved with an ombudsman (online or elsewhere), so I am really just theorizing...
Regardless, the more I think about it, the more complicated things seem to get...
I voted no in the poll actually, because for me personally, I am not convinced it is necessary for BetterMost as a community. (And I'm not disagreeing with anyone in the matter, only expressing what I feel personally.
BelAir:
"An Ombudsman, as I would define it here, would be an elected individual, not currently a moderator or administrator, charged with acting as an independent observer of the community."
Hi Phillip,
I just reread the original post, and am wondering exactly what you mean by 'independent' observer?
Thanks.
Bel
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