Thanks nakymaton, thanks brokeplex!!
Both of you bring up very interesting points.
I can bring up much, much more about the question of this thread I am posing, and will try to think of some. For now, limiting myself ( a bit) with you two by your current comments. I could write a small or big book about your recent comments!!
May I say that my thinking changes, and maybe progesses, since I add daily on this subject: Re: Does Jack know that is or is not his child?
If Lureen and Jack were in love, that colours: Re: Does Jack know that is or is not his child?
It still colours it if they were but not in love, since they helped each other... somehow!!
There are so many, many possibilities. May I think of some:
1- As one way to think about it: they were in love maybe or likely.
You just made me realized something that Jack had said and with him saying that (Lureen and him were or had been in love but...), it makes me realize that Lureen and Jack were in love or at least, HAD BEEN!! (And I'm not talking of the sex scene, as proof!)
2- But WHEN were they in love?
That is very complexe or can be so... may I figure.
We do not know so far if Lureen and Jack were married; it seems to me, that we are made in the BM movie to think that they are!! At least, they live together... and have a child - like they are married!!
At least, they have a child. It does not seem that is their child to me. It may be adopted??
To me, it is not Jack's child!
How many times do we see that child?? Twice??
At first, I did think that it was their child, since Lureen and Jack had sex, since we saw that; but in that, that action shows much, much: sex is too, too, too quick; Lureen is so very too much agressive, surely maybe too much for any manly man; Lureen, to me, had figured out Jack having heard about him as being gay or bi (yes) - so she makes sure to drop her hat at the right time and at the right place, and at the right man to catch Jack; in that bar, she eyes again Jack (refusing another male who asked her... to dance and the other males there since she could have went after them too) and this time walks towards just Jack and what-you-waiting-for-cowboy-a-mating-game, whcih tells much more than that; with all that and more... she mounts Jack and sex is part of love; to me, she starts to love Jack, and her love is subconscious as well as concious: then!!
I know that some or all of you did not think that Lureen could be then (during that sex eposide: a lesbian or bisexual!! I think that she was and continues as bisexual... with the baby in her arms and her parents arriving with Jack simling happily, but with her father not-so-much accepting Jack, her husband - remember the keys and that Thanksgiving??
As you say, is the marriage arranged?? To me, that tells also much, much more that we think so far; at least, that I think to date.
Maybe Lureen did say to Jack (or husband-to-be) that she was or is lesbian or bisexual?? I am putting that card in - but when did she mention possibly that to Jack?? Maybe she never had a conversation with him about that, but she surely showed it possibly, I dare say, either unconsciously or consciously. I might have a possible like-proof of that in a real case that I know about (since he told me in person, plus they did a long hour movie on TV): a homosexual man who married a lady, and when they were married, his wife would mention look how beautiful that woman or another women is; and, he never picked up on that, he told me; until the time many years after, his wife mentioned that she is a lesbian and was now going to live with a female she found as her lesbian lover!!
I do not colour Lureen as as a slut nor bitch, nor call her that!! I accept her thoughts and actions - her emotions!!
The dynamics of sex... love, etc., are so numerous that the whole world still discovers combinations.
One or two weeks ago, there was a combiantion of 4 persons, two homosexual men living together with two lesbians, one homosexual had a child which mentioned that he was happy to be in such a loving relationship-combination (two males...his father being one of the two homosexual men); yes, the four are living happily together to-day in 2008!!
I'll stop for now, re-read your marvelous comments and that from others too, and add more later. Awaiting further comments from you and from all too.
Again thanks,
hugs!!