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Open Discussion of RPS Stories in Light of Heath's Death
MaineWriter:
--- Quote from: ENEN on January 30, 2008, 12:18:13 pm ---Thanks for the general rules about historical fiction Marge! I think the big difference is as you said no one connected to the figure even remotely is still alive. We had slash stories about Heath posted even before he was buried. It is not only a question about libel or the legality of the situation but the propiety and ethics of it. Heath Ledger was a very private man so I do not believe for one minute he would be comfortable with these types of stories about him and Jake. I imagine he would wonder why so much creative effort would be wasted on making up tales about him instead of the writers finding their own stories or characters. I think the best tributes to Heath have been testimonials on what he meant to people and poems I have seen written about how much he meant to the author. I don't see RPS in that same light. How many of us after the Pope died wanted to go write a story about him loving and having sex with some other public figure? is that really a natural reaction to grief? Anyone written slash about their own lost loved ones? I think not. And if they have well they really do have issues! :laugh:
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Oh, God, just the thought of it...LOL
Thanks for a chuckle, ENEN.
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louisev:
Now I"m never going to see a picture of Ratzinger without thinking of him fooling around with Nick Sarkozy in a back room at a summit or something.
And no, my natural instinct at hearing of Heath's death was not to imagine him having sex with another actor, that's for sure...!
ENEN:
The argument by supporters of RPS that the the real people in RPS are only characters in a fantasy really bothered. It seems as if they were treating Heath and Jake as objects instead of people and I came across this interesting definition that I want to post here:
Sexual objectification is objectification of a person. That is, seeing them as a sexual object, and emphasizing their sexual attributes and physical attractiveness, while de-emphasizing their existence as a living person with emotions and feelings of their own[/b]
That's what is going on with RPS. IMO.
el_wing:
--- Quote from: ENEN on January 30, 2008, 03:13:21 pm ---The argument by supporters of RPS that the the real people in RPS are only characters in a fantasy really bothered. It seems as if they were treating Heath and Jake as objects instead of people and I came across this interesting definition that I want to post here:
Sexual objectification is objectification of a person. That is, seeing them as a sexual object, and emphasizing their sexual attributes and physical attractiveness, while de-emphasizing their existence as a living person with emotions and feelings of their own[/b]
That's what is going on with RPS. IMO.
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Interesting that you're using the Wikipedia definition. The Barbie doll has more to do with this modern feminist theory that addresses how men negate women to sex objects and whittle down self worth. We all "objectify" actors and musicians through hero worship. To sexually objectify in rps objectifies people. So does slash fic.
Do you read Ennis and Jack fic? Because that's objectifying gay men.
Or maybe watched the Super Bowl and seen those cheerleaders??? Much worse, IMO.
louisev:
to be fair to you as a writer, el_wing, I did read a chapter of your latest story and I think there is a contrast between what you are writing and the standard RPS fare - because there seems to be an actual story unfolding. However, this is not the main feature of many RPS tales - the main feature is sexual encounters and the emotional drama that surrounds it. I have always disliked reading things where the purpose of the story is sex, otherwise known as "Porn without plot", and I think this is far more prevalent in RPS stories than in fan fiction ones. In fact, there are a number of fan fics that are not at all explicit, and whatever sex occurred happened "off screen" as it were.
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