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Open Discussion of RPS Stories in Light of Heath's Death
el_wing:
I agree on that point-- that there is a lot of PWP in rps but it's prevalent in all fandoms, rps and not. There are many rps writers who are excellent writers. What I have a problem with is tearing each other down as writers-- especially women writers. Society does that enough, why do we need to do this to each other? I'd rather judge fic individually on merit than lump them together and make sweeping generalities. Please don't lump us all together.
Fan fic is largely dominated by women writers. I start to feel disillusioned when we start to split. We grow up reading past writers, men who are held up as "models" of what is "good" writing like Steinbeck and Hemmingway who have misogynist tendencies in their work and do objectify women.
I don't know, this whole thread reads more like an rps bash session with a few intelligent arguments in between that an open discussion.
ENEN:
the stories about Jack and Ennis that I read are a continuation of a love affair between two men . Jack and Ennis are fictional characters and not real so you can't really put them in the class of Heath and Jake. You can't offend a fictional character but you can offend and hurt real people.The cheerleaders at the SuperBowl are pretty bad but there is one big difference between them and slash fiction. Those cheerleaders are making a choice about their own lives and image. Heath and Jake have made no such choice in regards to the slash stories about them. I think the Barbie doll theory applies to RPS because the actors are being written as dolls to satisfy a fantasy and for sexual gratification. And just because objectification is prevalent elsewhere does not mean it is OK. It just means that it is prevalent.
ENEN:
--- Quote --- don't know, this whole thread reads more like an rps bash session with a few intelligent arguments in between that an open discussion
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It's not a bash session. It's just a place where we can exchange our views openly. Not everyone is thrilled with RPS and should be able to say so.
el_wing:
I don't know about other people, but I don't think I'd be writing fan fiction about Ennis and Jack if it weren't for Heath and Jake's portrayal of them. We are essentially fantasizing about the actors, not Jack and Ennis. If you'd only read Annie's story in the New Yorker, would we be having this discussion?
MaineWriter:
--- Quote from: el_wing on January 30, 2008, 05:06:10 pm ---
I don't know, this whole thread reads more like an rps bash session with a few intelligent arguments in between that an open discussion.
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While it seems there are more people here who have objections to RPS, I don't think that this is a bash session where your opinion is not welcomed, el_wing. On another forum where I have participated, if I presented a minority view, I immediately got PMs telling me to stop "stirring the pot" and my only purpose in being on the the discussion was to be a troublemaker (neither of which were true). Has this happened to you, el_wing? Because if so, I'd like to know about it as one of the Fanfic moderators.
After two years in this fandom, it is clear to me that people have very strong opinions about a variety of topics--from fanfiction in general, to moving on Ennis stories, to RPS. When I have been in the group where a minority opinion is being expressed, it can feel like I am getting bashed--that's true. But reading this thread, I do think the conversation has been respectful and everyone's voice has been welcomed. If you feel differently, please PM me so we can discuss. My goal--and I know Louise agrees with me--is to be able to have this issues out in the open so people can be able to discuss them--not hidden behind secret PM campaigns.
Thanks.
Leslie
Moderator, Fanfic
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