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Barack Obama vs. John McCain
Shasta542:
Is Iran a threat or not? ???
I've seen the video with McCain contradictions. Obama said on May 18 that Iran is not a serious threat; then, today he said Iran is a grave threat. Looks as if he has some contradictions too.
Senator Clinton won Kentucky big today -- should she stay in the fight? Did it help her much (in the long run)?
Brown Eyes:
My question for Jack, or any Hillary supporter/ Democrat is why McCain would be more appealing than Obama. Hillary and Obama's platforms are much, much closer together than either one of them is to McCain. As a Hillary supporter, I'm definitely going to vote for Obama in the general election if he's the nominee.
My biggest concern about Obama is how well he'll do in the general election. I truly believe Hillary would be more competitive against McCain, especially looking at the states she's won vs. the states that Obama's won.
To me the biggest goal of the general election is to prevent another Republican administration from taking office (especially one that seems so comfortable adopting policies and stances that are similar in some cases to the Bush policies).
I'm worried about things like more conservative judges being nominated for the Supreme court. Basically all the social issues that I care most deeply about are much more in line with both Obama and Hillary than McCain.
I don't understand questioning Obama's patriotism either. He's running for president. How much more patriotic can one be?
Shasta542:
I don't understand questioning Obama's patriotism either. He's running for president. How much more patriotic can one be?
...Obama should be ready to face the political reality that accompanies some controversial choices.
They include his decision to stay in a church whose pastor blamed America for the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001; and his association, however tenuous, with a Vietnam-era radical named William Ayers.
From the Boston Globe
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/04/20/obamas_patriotism/
Shasta542:
I know -- this happened a while back:
On Monday, Michelle Obama told an audience in Milwaukee, "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country. Not just because Barack is doing well, but I think people are hungry for change."
Days later, McCain's wife, Cindy, responded: "I have, and always will be, proud of my country."
Barack Obama has expressed frustration that his wife's remarks had been taken out of context and turned into political fodder — both the Obamas say she was talking about politics in the United States, not the country itself.
Isn't that the way they spin these things? They are always "taken out of context".
Lynne:
--- Quote from: atz75 on May 20, 2008, 09:49:07 pm ---My question for Jack, or any Hillary supporter/ Democrat is why McCain would be more appealing than Obama. Hillary and Obama's platforms are much, much closer together than either one of them is to McCain. As a Hillary supporter, I'm definitely going to vote for Obama in the general election if he's the nominee.
My biggest concern about Obama is how well he'll do in the general election. I truly believe Hillary would be more competitive against McCain, especially looking at the states she's won vs. the states that Obama's won.
To me the biggest goal of the general election is to prevent another Republican administration from taking office (especially one that seems so comfortable adopting policies and stances that are similar in some cases to the Bush policies).
I'm worried about things like more conservative judges being nominated for the Supreme court. Basically all the social issues that I care most deeply about are much more in line with both Obama and Hillary than McCain.
I don't understand questioning Obama's patriotism either. He's running for president. How much more patriotic can one be?
--- End quote ---
Well put, Amanda. I've read a few things that call his patriotism into question - and I have no idea if they're fact or fiction - like he will not wear a US Flag pin on his lapel and does not salute with a hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegience.
Even if these two things ARE true (and I tend to think that's a big IF), I think people need to differentiate between true patriotism and outward displays of patriotism. For instance, I think reciting the Pledge of Allegience should be optional. There are plenty of people who think this is not patriotic, but I am of the opinion that true patriotism includes an obligation to question our leaders and not support the government blindly.
If there is any good that has come out of the Iraq wars, it is that people who oppose the wars have learned to separate the solidier from the war. We can support our troops, who are doing their jobs and serving their country, and still oppose the war. The soldiers who served in the Vietnam 'conflict' were not afforded this courtesy.
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