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injest:

--- Quote from: Sheriff Roland on May 21, 2008, 09:54:53 pm ---How he stands on the economy - important 

what he has done about the economy in his district  - important

How he stands on the illegal war - important

What he has done in the Senate about the war - important

How he stands on gay issues - important

See above

How he stand on a woman's right to chose - important

see above

How much experience he has - not that important (you don't know how you react until you're faced with those situations)

SEE ABOVE!!!

How his wife expresses her thoughts - absolutely not important

How his preacher thinks - absolutely not important.

How he smirks or appears over confident - not at all important

Come on folks - get real.

--- End quote ---

He has been in the Senate for how long and has a record of what?? "Presents" ...not AYES or NAYS...but Present.

leader? no.

injest:
interesting article here:

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MWZjY2YzZWVkMjdkMDEzMGQ0MjJkNTUyN2FkNmMzYTc=#more

jstephens9:
Like I have said before it is quite easy to see what is going to happen if the Democrats nominate Obama. It's as easy as looking at a map and comparing it to past elections. Look at the states Obama has won. These are Republican (red) states. Then look at the swing states. Who has won them? Hillary. Look at states like New York and California. Who won them? Hillary. Who has the best chance of winning all of these states in a national election between McCain and Obama? McCain. Who becomes president? McCain. Nominate Obama and McCain more than likely becomes the next president.

Brown Eyes:

--- Quote from: jstephens9 on May 22, 2008, 08:27:48 pm ---Like I have said before it is quite easy to see what is going to happen if the Democrats nominate Obama. It's as easy as looking at a map and comparing it to past elections. Look at the states Obama has won. These are Republican (red) states. Then look at the swing states. Who has won them? Hillary. Look at states like New York and California. Who won them? Hillary. Who has the best chance of winning all of these states in a national election between McCain and Obama? McCain. Who becomes president? McCain. Nominate Obama and McCain more than likely becomes the next president.

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My sense is that the major issue of which states Hillary has won and her favorable percentages against McCain in Ohio, PA and one other swing state that they mentioned on the news tonight (I think Florida) is the main reason that so many superdelegates are still not making up their mind and the reason the party is permitting this primary to go on and on.  If the party and the superdelegates were really comfortable with Obama, I think this would have been over a while ago.  And, I really do think the main issue is competitiveness since Obama's and Hillary's platforms are so relatively similar.





HerrKaiser:

--- Quote from: Shasta542 on May 21, 2008, 11:44:41 pm ---Maybe "typical" for this forum, but Senator Obama has the highest ratings possible by liberal and leftists groups. That shows that he is outside the mainstream of U.S. opinion. It would be dangerous to have a President with views that are far to the left or far to the right of the mainstream.

Individual states and congressional districts may elect far leftists or rightwingers, but the country as a whole needs a president who reflects the opinions of the overwhelming majority. Senator Obama is far to the left of the overwhelming majority of Americans.

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Absolutely correct.  In fact, the senator ratings by the leftists groups...so what? A study measuring attitudes among such a bias and skewed set of repondents is totally worthless. hello? Would anyone expect results from this set of left wingers to be different? I'll quote one of the recent posters--"get real".

After 8 years of Clinton divisiveness and another 8 years of Bush divisiveness, the last thing this country (or the world) needs is another poorly qualified, rely-on-platitudes, easy-target-for-controvery leader. Geraldine Ferraro was right. Obama has little business being where he is. If his personal beliefs as well as his politics were not so skewed to the left, he might be a reasonable risk. But, his views (the few we know about!) reflect only a minority of Americans' beliefs.



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