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what possessed Jack to take that shirt in the first place?
nakymaton:
Meryl, you have such an amazing visual memory and ability to notice details. 8) I keep trying to see things like the yin/yang in the barn door outside Jack's room, but every time I watch that part of the movie I find that I can't look at anything but Ennis's face. (I mean, I've never even seen Jack's rock collection. And you know how much that means! ;D )
starboardlight -- yeah, the blood is really important, isn't it? (I did read one of Casey Cornelius's threads on TOB after Meryl pointed me to it, and I think I remember a bunch of people going into really impressive detail about the symbolism of the blood.) The blood reminds me of the entire scene, of how the blood got on both shirts. Of flirting gone sour. Of Jack trying to take care of Ennis, and Ennis lashing out, pushing Jack away. :'( There's just so much love and pain and regret wrapped up in the shirts.
There's an odd detail in the published screenplay... Ennis's shirt, the one with the blood on it, is described as being denim. So it wasn't the screenwriters who envisioned the color scheme. It's interesting... I don't know when the published screenplay was locked in, and I know there are a lot of details that are different. But the colors associated with the two characters seem so symbolic -- I can't imagine Ennis wearing a denim shirt, unless he wanted specifically to be reminded of Jack on the mountain.
There's a little cranky corner of me that says, "yeah, the colors are really symbolic, but you know, Jake looks really really good in dark blue/red/purple/black, and Heath looks really really good in muted colors." But then I listen to people who do the symbolism thing really well and I tell the cranky corner of me to shut up, because the stuff you all are saying is just so cool. ;D
silkncense:
I apologize in advance for the intrusion into the topic at hand. However, I was asking a simply question of tiawahcowboy & expected just a straight forward response -
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Quote from: TJ on May 15, 2006, 12:51:39 am
julie01, after I posted a response to your message, I looked at your BetterMost Profile.
I did not know that you were so much older than me.
The 16 year old "guy" actually has a woman's name "ednakrabapley" in his email address. I have never met a guy named "Edna" (that's my older sister's name); but, I have had friends whose first names were Sherrill, Shirley and Sharon.
Sherrill's last name was "Booker' and he prefered to be called by his last name. Shirley's Middle name was "Rogers;" he had been named after a male Cherokee relative "Shirley Rogers," he preferred to be called "Roger."
Now the Sharon guy was a big fellow and nobody made fun of his name.
Well, whadda ya know? Just did a search and saw the above. All them there guys did live in the same county, Rogers, as I do. Ain't seen any of them in at least 40 years. Both Sharon and Roger went to the same high school up at Chelsea. Chelsea is North of Claremore, the county seat, and Tiawah is down Claremore.
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As Alma said, "Don't try an fool me no more."
tiawahcowboy:
--- Quote from: silkncense on May 29, 2006, 04:49:17 pm ---I apologize in advance for the intrusion into the topic at hand. However, I was asking a simply question of tiawahcowboy & expected just a straight forward response -
As Alma said, "Don't try an fool me no more."
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Why did you have to make an issue of something so trivial and off-topic in the first place? You can delete your off-topic postings, didn't you know?
starboardlight:
--- Quote from: nakymaton on May 29, 2006, 03:51:31 pm ---There's a little cranky corner of me that says, "yeah, the colors are really symbolic, but you know, Jake looks really really good in dark blue/red/purple/black, and Heath looks really really good in muted colors." But then I listen to people who do the symbolism thing really well and I tell the cranky corner of me to shut up, because the stuff you all are saying is just so cool. ;D
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the counter argument is that Jake looks really good in anything and in nothing. ;D
nakymaton:
--- Quote from: starboardlight on May 29, 2006, 05:04:39 pm ---the counter argument is that Jake looks really good in anything and in nothing. ;D
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;D :laugh: ;D
Yup, that argument will win every time. :D
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