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The Perfect President
injest:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on July 01, 2008, 07:56:42 pm ---So long as someone is a good leader, it wouldn't matter to me. You don't have to have served in the military to be a good leader.
Per brokeplex a president emerging from military service a hero would be icing on the cake. However of course that would mean that that person would have to be a man, seeing as right now, last I heard women are forbidden from serving in combat where they might have a chance to actually become a hero. So effectively that means - until that is changed - 1/2 the population of the U.S. is excluded from being considered a perfect president by those standards.
Eh.
I believe a society that wastes the abilities of some members of their society by not using them is all the more poorer for it.
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I think that depends on what you call a hero....
There were a group of nurses captured on a Pacific island during WWII, interrred in a POW camp, protected one another, they carried one nurse when she couldn't walk on the march to the camp....I dont' remember all the details because it has been a while...but they were heros in every sense of the word.
delalluvia:
--- Quote from: injest on July 01, 2008, 08:14:02 pm ---I think that depends on what you call a hero....
There were a group of nurses captured on a Pacific island during WWII, interrred in a POW camp, protected one another, they carried one nurse when she couldn't walk on the march to the camp....I dont' remember all the details because it has been a while...but they were heros in every sense of the word.
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Were they decorated as such? I mean that's up there with JFK and his PT boat exploits. Being a hero can mean lots of things, very true. However, until all such acts are recognized as heroic by society and rewarded (by awards/commendations etc.) they're never going to be on the same par as Audie Murphy.
injest:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on July 01, 2008, 08:16:34 pm ---Were they decorated as such? I mean that's up there with JFK and his PT boat exploits. Being a hero can mean lots of things, very true. However, until all such acts are recognized as heroic by society and rewarded (by awards/commendations etc.) they're never going to be on the same par as Audie Murphy.
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I really dont' remember...I read it back when Holocaust first came out.
I will see if I can find it again when I come back...gotta go entertain the ol ball and chain...
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
(ball and chain! I kill me sometimes)
Artiste:
It would be good to know injest.
Thanks for bringing these heros up !
Any more ?
brokeplex:
--- Quote from: delalluvia on July 01, 2008, 07:56:42 pm ---So long as someone is a good leader, it wouldn't matter to me. You don't have to have served in the military to be a good leader.
Per brokeplex a president emerging from military service a hero would be icing on the cake. However of course that would mean that that person would have to be a man, seeing as right now, last I heard women are forbidden from serving in combat where they might have a chance to actually become a hero. So effectively that means - until that is changed - 1/2 the population of the U.S. is excluded from being considered a perfect president by those standards.
Eh.
I believe a society that wastes the abilities of some members of their society by not using them is all the more poorer for it.
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so then by your logic we should diminish the accomplishments of a hero who served his country in combat because in the past women were not allowed in combat? personally I think in todays world that women are allowed in combat as I hear of women in the armed forces becoming casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan. if they are casualties, then they are in combat.
why not just cut to the chase? the argument you have made is just following the lead of Weasley Clark, and it really is nothing more than a rather transparent attempt to diminish the military accomplishments of John McCain without mentioning his name. The Obamacons have such weak arguments in support of their candidate because he has such paper thin accomplishments, including no military service.
But, really it is great that Weasley Clark and others have attempted to diminish McCain's military service, as each and every time McCain's military service is brought up, it helps the McCain campaign in some swing states which I am watching. a bit like John Kerry reminding promilitary voters that he served in Vietnam, it didn't help him and this silliness won't help Obama.
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